agreements is requiring attendees sign a liability waiver. the invitation sent by the campaign has this language toward the bottom. by clicking register below you are acknowledging an inherent risk of exposure to covid-19 exists in any public place where people are present. by attending the rally you and all guests assume all risks related to covid-19 and agree not to hold donald j. trump for president incorporated as well as others liable for any injuries or illness. the number could reach 170,000 more deaths by october. the news continues. we'll head over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> thank you very much. all eyes are on seattle and trump sees an opportunity to make everything that's happening there and really everywhere about his political opponents and their radical ranks. his move? calls to dominate the people on the streets, dangling troops again. i wonder what effect that will

have on people who say they are tired of being dominated. on the same day that the head of the joint chiefs apologized for even the suggestion of military presence in our politics, trump tone deaf once again, doubled down. >> seattle would be so easy to solve. we have to dominate the streets. you can't let happen what happened in new york city, the damage they've done. you have to dominate the streets. if you think about it we're dominating the street with compassion because we're saving lives. >> dominating the street with compassion. if that doesn't tell you everything that trump doesn't know, i don't know what will. when i say he is tone deaf, i mean the calls for equity and justice -- i mean to the calls for equity and justice. that is because he is singing a different tune, more like a dog whistle, right, to his base. too many of them want to see the people who are begging for change put down.

the governor of washington, however, is pushing back, saying his state won't allow threats of military violence from the white house. the mayor of seattle calls it a threat to invade, and is calling on trump to go back to his bunker. she is going to have more to say to us in just a moment. first, let's get to the streets of seattle. dan simon is there. what's the situation? >> hi, chris. this is the seattle police station that has essentially been taken over by protesters. you can see it's been totally defaced. look where we used to say the seattle police department and now it says the seattle people department and all the windows are boarded up because the officers who work in this station essentially abandoned ship. let me explain how this came about. you had several days of violent clashes between police and protesters in front of the station and there was tear gas deployed. it was a terrible situation. officers within the department made the calculated decision they wanted to try to

de-escalate things so they decided to pack up and leave. when that happened you had a void and protesters filled the void. that's what you've had since monday. now, despite the fact that this all began violently, right now it's entirely peaceful. in fact, you can see the protesters behind me. let's pan the camera around, chris. it really has the feel of a street festival. they're serving food down there, giving out free food. there's medical tents. people are camping out. they have movies at night. there is live music. that's what the situation is like now. but right now, chris, there appears to be no strategy in place on the part of the city to take back the police department. we don't know how long this is going to go for, but they seem to be content at the moment just to let them have the run of the place. chris? >> all right. thank you very much. appreciate it. be safe. check back with us if there is something we need to report during our watch. let's bring in the mayor of seattle now going toe to toe with the president today but let's deal with our own problems at home in our back yard first.

welcome back, ms. mayor. good to have you. >> good to see you, chris. glad you're back and healthy. >> thank you for the good word. i don't have to tell you about the situation on the ground in your city but in terms of how it looks to the rest of the country and the president teeing it up as basically ineptitude, the inability to control your own streets. is that fair criticism? >> so i know it will shock you that the president is perhaps not getting an accurate or truthful picture. we've got four blocks in seattle that you just saw pictures of that is more like a block party atmosphere. it is not an armed take over. it's not a military hunta. we will make sure that we can restore this. we have block parties and the like in this part of seattle all the time. it's known for that. so i think the president, number one, there is no threat right now to the public. we're looking, taking that very seriously and meeting with businesses and residents. what the president threatened is illegal and un-constitutional,

and the fact he can think he can just tweet that and not have ramifications is just wrong. >> the counter will be, block parties don't take over mua municipal building let alone a police station and destroy it basically thumbing their nose at any sense of civic control. do you believe you have control of your city and you would be able to clear those streets? because you haven't. >> we do. and the chief of police was in that precinct today with her command staff looking and assessing operational plans. we saw it was a point of conflict night after night between the police department and protesters and we wanted to de-escalate that and we decided the best way was to reopen the streets. that ended up with some ramifications for the precinct to remove anything that was valuable out of that building. but we will make sure that all of seattle is safe. we take public safety seriously. but the description the president has given is not only

wrong. but if it were right, his remedy is wrong. you don't dominate. remember why we're here. you know, we're here because the nation saw mr. floyd murdered. that lit a match across this country. and we have to acknowledge and know that we have a system that is built on systemic racism and we have to dismantle that system piece by piece. we have to empower the black community and communities of color. we have to invest in their health and their safety and their education and opportunity. >> mayor, the other counter by the president, and many people on the right, will be, of course dirken has a "d" after her name. she'll be okay with this because these are her people, these left wing anarchists and radicals and they're letting them run free on the streets. you barely see any black or african-american faces on those streets. this is about lefty radicalism run amok in your city and you seem okay with it. >> so, chris, as you know, i was a united states attorney here in

seattle and during that time as united states attorney we investigated and prosecuted a whole range of bad actors including militia groups and drug cartels, anarchists and the like. we have our public safety approach in one way. and during this time, a number one priority, every american city has, is to protect the first amendment right. our country was born out of protests. the right to gather, the right to protest, the right to challenge government when it's wrong is our most fundamental, constitutional right. it's a reason it's the first amendment. and as a mayor of the city, i will do everything to protect that right and balance the public safety. i think not only can we do both i think we have to do both. >> and what is the response to the president's call to dominate with compassion? he says solving your problem would be easy if you were strong and not weak. your response was you want to help? go back to the bunker.

tough words. >> look, we know the last time i spoke with you we were talking about the pandemic. and i would yearn for just one positive thing the white house would give us either on that public crisis or the public crisis we're facing right now on systemic racism. we need a president engaged to bring america together to heal and in the case of coronavirus to literally heal. to give me as a mayor the testing capacity i need. the ability to have the drugs that can treat it. when vaccines come to be fully safe and free for people. i want ppe for my nurses and firefighters. instead, i'm searching the globe for those things so we can have testing and treatment for people here in seattle. so i would say to the president if you want to do good for america, start doing good for america. we need you in that fight. we need -- we can harness the beautiful innovation of american manufacturing and workers to build a system that actually

produced enough testing so we can control this virus. we know we'll see an uptick in it. this president is not in a fight. instead he just wants to start a fight. >> look, what is happening on your streets isn't going to be helpful to the case load either. you know that. we do see people with masks but obviously the big risk is as we move back out into the public and reopen having people in tight spaces like this can't be helpful. it is outside. that is one mitigating factor. you know there are risks. i want to just get a clear sense of this though, mayor. why do you believe the president chose to spoke about domination in the face of what is happening not only in your city but many instances when it comes to the remedy for the unrest in the country right now. what do you think this is about for him? >> i think it shows a complete lack of understanding of why people are in the street. they're fighting a system of domination and he doesn't understand that.

and his response is always one that is belicose and militaristic. he doesn't honor the military either as you can see from the line of generals who dispute him. i think he says dominate because he totally does not understand what is happening in america and he is desperately trying to start the old fights and the old divisions that put him in power in the first place. >> how long do you think seattle in those few blocks looks like this? >> i don't know. we could have the summer of love. >> tell that to the police who are supposed to be in that precinct. i understand your sentiment, mayor. i wish you well. we'll stay on the story. you always have this platform to talk about it. >> hey, chris, the police will be policing there. i want to be very clear on that. our chief of police was in there assessing today. we take public safety very seriously. we met with businesses and residents today. we don't have to sacrifice public safety for first amendment rights. both can exist and we'll make

sure they do in seattle. >> we'll be watching to see how it unfolds. the best to you. good to see you. thank you for being on the show. >> thank you. take care. >> how do we get to a better place? you know you have to have conversations but most acutely discussions with and among the powerful. right? noticeably absent from trump's round table, i don't know if you heard about it, he had a round table today on race and policing in dallas. now, three top law enforcement officials in the county, the dallas police chief, the sheriff, and the district attorney all black. they weren't there. they weren't invited. why not? is the question. guess who we have? one of them to tell his side of the story, next. when the world gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. with fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management.

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remember where we are as if you need reminding. we are in the midst of a national outpouring over systemic racism. for those of you who believe it doesn't exist, i have something special for you that the team and i did later in the show. the president, however, though, today said this. >> we have to work together to confront bigotry and prejudice wherever they appear, but we'll make no progress and heal no wounds by falsely labeling tens of millions of decent americans as racist or bigots. >> so his concern is for the

feelings and impact on the people who aren't being des krim nigkrim -- discriminated against but has still said nothing about what led people to take to the streets. even the words that are written for him are remarkably hollow on this. remember, he didn't write that. he's reading it, with some effort. even then, the message falls flat. why? that is the big question for us. today they hold a roundtable in dallas on race relations and policing and instead, again, of taking an opportunity to speak about violence against black people at an event promoted as discussing justice disparities, he lauded police forces, which he should, okay? there is no reason to bash the police as an institution. we need them. it's about how they do the job for everybody the right way. and he described those who use excessive force as mere bad apples. but the bad apples in an orchard that has problems and you have to address it. but, more importantly, how could

you expect to address that in dallas if you don't have the people at the table who are doing the job right there? the three top black law enforcement officials in the region, dallas police chief, sheriff, and district attorney weren't there. they weren't even invited. dallas county district attorney joins me now. sir, thank you for taking the opportunity. >> thank you. we're happy that you're better and well. >> i appreciate it. i've done a lot of good work with your office and the police in dallas over the years, always welcome there and always welcome on this show as well. just to be clear about the record, is mr. district attorney, am i right that you were not invited? not that you didn't go out of protest, you were busy, you had something else? >> no, i was not invited. i didn't hear anything from his office or anybody about going there. >> how do you explain it? >> well, i guess my viewpoint is

not valued by the president or his team. quite frankly i don't understand how you could come to a large metropolitan area, one of the largest in the united states, we've had protests, we've had a little bit of violence but a lot of peaceful protests, and we've come together as a community. and we have policing issues and problems just like other major metropolitan areas and to not have the interest to talk to the individuals who are in the midst of this who are administering criminal justice in the community is just unthinkable to me and i can't imagine why he wouldn't want to hear from us. >> what do you make of one of his main economic advisers saying there is no such thing as systemic racism and the president saying this problem begins and ends with just a few bad apples. >> well, that's not reality. i think any serious person who

wants to be honest about these issues understands that there is systemic racism not only in police institutions but in most of our american institutions. and to hide from it and deny it is once again to put people of color and people of conscience in an awful spot that their president and his advisers seem to not deal with reality. it's not what we want. it's not what we deserve. i just hope that we can sometime in the near future do much better. >> the president looks at a situation like seattle and what we had here in new york city and says the answer is clear. dominate. bring in the military. show them who's boss. might makes right. what do you think of that approach to what is bringing people to the streets? >> well, it sounds like post reconstruction in a different form and fashion. you know, we're the power and we're going to tell you what to do. if you have anything to say that is contrary to what we think or

what we want, we're going to suppress it. and if it means violence, then that's what we'll do. if it means bring in the military, which, thank god they're resisting those efforts of his, but it is just that same strong man type of talk. it is not american. it's not our values. it should be rejected by everyone. >> in all likelihood you weren't invited because there is a "d" after your name. and he is pretty clear about who he wants around him. he wants people that he knows are going to tell him the right thing and maybe he didn't think he'd be getting that even though he was sitting in a city with none of the people in charge at the table with him. let's do this, district attorney. you do have a seat at this table. you always will. this show and this network exists to have this kind of discussion for the american people. so you are welcome back on this show. we have to have a lot of conversations about what needs to change to make this country a more perfect union. you are invited, sir.

>> well, thank you, sir. good luck to you. >> thank you very much. district attorney, good luck to you. god bless the family. all right. also in dallas county, another reason it was interesting for the president to be there, and give no voice to another pressing concern. a new record high for covid cases in a single day was just set in dallas. what a coincidence. the virus is also now exploding in one of the first states to reopen last month. is there a connection between those two elements? the new hot spots, what it means for all of us in this fight. we're learning more. let's share it, next. a lot of folks ask me why their dishwasher doesn't get everything clean. i tell them, it may be your detergent... that's why more dishwasher brands recommend cascade platinum... ...with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in. for sparkling-clean dishes, the first time. cascade platinum.

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okay. please listen up. 20 states right now are seeing a rise in coronavirus cases some more sharply than others. let's look at south carolina. it saw the highest number of cases reported in one day

doubling its daily average count this week alone. arizona. this is increasingly a hot spot and something we have to look at all its covid cases so one in every four cases it's had came in the past week during the warm months. it is a different season there but what is this about? states now telling hospitals to activate emergency plans. for those who tell you these numbers are off because it just means we're testing more, that is illogical. more cases are a concern period. this is not just about testing. look at texas. more than 2,000 people there were hospitalized yesterday. that is the highest number since the pandemic began. hospitalizations are not about testing. and now dallas county where the president was today hit a record high in positive cases and he said nothing about it. i wonder why. why doesn't he dominate that? if you think this is all over,

that it's time for us to race back, it's summer, we're getting a break from covid now, it is just not the reality. in fact, the cases aren't even coming down the way we expect them to. so why? what does this tell us about the new projections about where this pandemic could be headed? we have a top health authority, next. hey! lily from at&t here. i'm back and while most stores are open, i'm working from home and here to help. here's a tip: get half-off the amazing iphone 11 on at&t, america's fastest network for iphones. second tip: you can put googly eyes on your stuff to keep yourself company. uh for example, that's heraldo. he's my best friend. oh, sorry nancy, i forgot you were there. get the amazing iphone 11 for half-off on at&t,

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on them. in all three of those places, south carolina not so impressive, but texas and arizona you're going to see big growth in hospitalizations. that is not about counting. it's about contagion and of course the death toll continues to rise. okay? you see here this is in texas. you see, hospitalizations. okay? you see up, up, up, up. all right? that is not about counting. put up the next state. all right. arizona, you'll see the same kind of thing. south carolina, you'll see it more flat. i'll show you both. don't worry about it. there is arizona. okay? pretty scary. we'll dig deeper into arizona. we have to figure out what's going on there. this isn't just rolling across the country. there is something else going on there. then you have to of course focus on death toll. the latest model used by the white house is predicting the total could hit 170,000 by october. that would be 50,000 plus more lives lost in just the next four months. let's bring in dr. william

schaffner, always good to see you, doc. >> good to be with you, chris. >> the idea of why this is happening should not be a surprise. we were hoping to get a break in the summer months, but reopening can kind of cancel out the break that you thought you'd get by being outside and having better weather for transmission advantage if not done correctly, yes? >> for sure. covids not taking a summer vacation. it is actually having new opportunities to spread. but of course we knew that would happen once we opened up and were talking about how you had to balance that. opening it up for all the economic, social, and cultural advantages, which was absolutely necessary, but we had to do it carefully in order to not make too much medical and public health damage at the same time. this is a tricky matter. and if people are care free,

rather than careful, well, then you'll see an increase in cases. i'm with you. i think the hospitalization numbers are the ones that are the most ominous and reliable. then going up here, there, not everywhere yet, thank goodness. we have to be on the alert. >> the projection the white house relies on that shows 57,000 more people projected to die from covid in the next four months, what does that suggest to you in terms of why that would be happening? >> well, obviously more opportunities for people to get close to each other whether in small groups or larger groups, that is an opportunity for this virus to spread. it loves to get close to people and spread from one to another and if you do it in groups it can spread widely and more quickly. so that's a substantial, just a model, but nonetheless, a

substantial number anticipated during what were supposed to be or hoped for the quieter months. >> one of the reasons i rely on you and we've talked about this on and off before on and off camera. this gets really confusing fast for people and that is if everything told to them is accurate. we've had a change in masks, in distance, a change in viral load, in duration. everything keeps changing as you guys learn about things. i understand that. it is confusing for people. today the cdc director said, we're not focusing on the most important trends. we're giving too much weight to numbers that have little meaning. case count numbers. number of tests conducted. obviously former director of the cdc. he'd be out in an afternoon if he was in there right now talking this way. if you're not on the bus with trump you're out. test positivity rates. are we focusing on the wrong things? if so, why? what are the right things?

>> i think it is an accumulation for things. i think testing provides some information but you got to look at it with care. whom are we testing? are we focused on high risk populations? we have to take that into account because we'll find many, many more cases. if you start testing people who have no symptoms and are at low risk you won't find as many cases. you and i both like that number that we just talked about. people who are hospitalized with laboratory diagnosed covid because for the last several months we've had enough testing capacity to test those people and so those are good, hard numbers. watch those trends. as we say, it is a bit of a lagging indicator. it lags a little bit behind the actual infection by a week, week and a half, but it is a solid indicator of how we're doing and it also is a measure of the

stress on the health care system and is a very useful indicator. >> i totally agree because it lets you know what your capacity is in terms of what you can handle and those are the real cases, not to disrespect anybody who has it but that includes myself. there were a couple days i was afraid i'd become one of those hospitalizations but i didn't. if you can deal with it at home it is one kind of illness. if you have to be in the hospital it is a whole different potential. thank you very much. i'll probably call on you if not tonight tomorrow morning to get your help on arizona. what is happening there is worrying experts. we have to take a deeper look and i'd love your help on that. god bless. have a good night. >> good night. >> again, what do you do in a time like this if you are a leader trying to send the right message about the pandemic and what is going to happen. are you telling people to wear masks, go slow, be careful, watch what's going on, right? all deliberate speed. not this president. rally time.

the worst thing you could do in the middle of this pandemic. by the way, he's having people sign a release form. isn't that nice. please come. if anything happens, go away. what a familiar situation for so many of his business endeavors. he's taken a lot of heat but he doesn't care. he doesn't care. and the question becomes, where is he going to kick it off and on what day? june-teenth in tulsa. do you know what june-teenth is about? do you know what happened in tulsa, the site of one of the worst race massacres in american history. but some are saying, no, no. you have it wrong. the president is doing the right thing. we have one of his defenders, a congressman who represents tulsa, next. life isn't a straight line.

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all right. the president is going to be back to preaching in his base in person next week at his first rally since this pandemic exploded. is that a smart move to have a

rally during a pandemic? then you get to the more sensitive issue. he's having it in tulsa, oklahoma. on june-teenth. okay? tulsa the site of one of the worst racist massacres in our country's history. june-teenth a holiday marking the emancipation of slaves specifically in texas the last hold out in the confederacy to make that move. joining us now is republican congressman kevin hern representing tulsa. i appreciate you taking this conversation on. >> chris, thank you for having me tonight. >> the first concern is we are in the middle of a pandemic. you guys aren't out of the woods. we are trying to do things in the smartest way. a political rally checks every box of risk. the trump campaign knows that so he is having people check one more box, a release that if they come they don't have any recourse against the campaign if anything happens. you think that is a good mix? >> well, let's take the first part first about coming to

oklahoma. it is to your point a strong base for him. the president won all 77 counties the last time around. all the statewide races are -- offices are filled with republican leadership. very strong base here. he has a favorability among his base of about 91%. so he's coming here. oklahomans have done a great job. the governor has pushed to be a top ten state in opening in everything he does. he is a former business guy. i've been in business 35 years before getting into congress this first term and you want to look and reward people who have done a great job for you. there won't be any democrats at the rally i'm sure. the republicans will decide whether they feel like they should go or not. >> but, congressman, just forgive me but i don't care about any of this. you're not encouraging people to go to concerts. i am glad he has 91% approval and glad that oklahoma is a strong base for the president. that is irrelevant. my question is, you're not letting people have concerts and go and have big gatherings.

why let the president do it? >> well, we're in phase three now so the gatherings have expanded. we've opened back up our baseball field so you have thousands of people, baseball and soccer is huge here. you have large gatherings going on. we have seen an uptick. we have a lot of increase in testing going on. we have about 70 people hospitalized across the state. and so about 357 deaths, which is tragic, every death is tragic and i know you've had the covid-19 virus and it is devastating. people wanted to make a decision to get back out and those who want to stay home can do so. you know what it's like. they've made the decision that they want to go and go see the president. if they don't they can stay home and watch on tv. >> of course. i won't have you answer for the fact he is having them sign a release. if it were a state issue, if you guys were doing it -- >> i'd love to speak to that. if you go to the concert, any concert ticket you go to,

basketball game, hockey game, a baseball game, if you read the fine print on that ticket it says if you get hit by a broken bat you are responsible. >> it's different. covid-19 is not an inherent threat of the assumed liability you have in going to a sporting event. in baseball it is a natural occurrence a bat may break, a ball may fly and god forbid somebody gets hit. covid-19 is not something we just assume people take the risk on. let's not get too in the weeds. tulsa and june-teenth do you think it is incumbent upon the president that if he is going to hold a rally in that city during that time that he must address the systemic racism putting people on the streets all across this country and do it in a way that shows deference to the problem and not pretending that it will just disappear? >> i do and i think it is a turning point. i haven't talked to the president personally but i think that is part of the strategy is

to be in an environment. as a business person and what we know about this president whether you or others don't like him is he is willing to take on the tough battle. we've seen that with china, iran. we could go on and on. racism in america has been around for hundreds of years. we fought a war and lost more men and women in a war than all other wars almost combined. we've seen what's happened. the president knows very vividly what happened here. 99 years ago on may 31st and june 1st and i think if you are going to tackle the worst problem that is immediately in front of you, you go to where it is the most prevalent and most obvious. right now we just -- >> then you have to speak to it. >> you do. >> he has never done that. just to make the record very clear if i didn't like the president i just wouldn't talk to you about him. i talk to you about him because he matters. it is not a personal situation. i'm sure i've known him a lot longer than you have. our mothers used to get their

hair done at the same place. it is not a personal thing. it is about his responsibility. i do wish he didn't sic his followers on my kids as often as he does online but i digress. what i am saying about this is he hasn't spoken to these issues and you know it. he is going to be walking into a city where the police chief just said all the research says we are shooting african-americans about 24% less than we probably ought to be based on the crimes being committed. do you back up that statement? >> okay. >> let me fix your story. the police chief wendall franklin was just hired by the mayor a few months ago. he is an african-american. he was referencing, you're referencing a major that spoke -- >> the tulsa police department major travis yates. >> yes. that's right. >> not the chief. do you back up the sentiment now that we have the right mouth? >> well the police chief is very

much understanding what needs to happen as far as mending relationships and doing what other leaders have not done in the history of this country, not barack obama, not -- >> do you agree with the sentiment in the statement or disagree? >> i think it was a terrible statement to be made and i think you see the police chief come out quickly and condemn that. you saw the mayor say that. i didn't hear it personally. i read it probably like everybody else but that is clearly either he misspoke or he clearly has an opportunity to correct the record about what he said. >> i appreciate you speaking to it directly and to the situation and i hope the president takes your advice and discusses what is happening on the streets of this country and why they're there finally because we need leadership on this issue to get anywhere that is even approximating a better place. congressman kevin hern i wish you the best. >> thank you, chris. >> thank you for taking the opportunity. all right. there's been an awakening about systemic racism in america.

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cabinet member and one black domestic adviser. so let's start with the economy. white people make more money than blacks do, period. even if they have the same level of education. even if they're in the same jobs. and in fact, that fundamental divide is as wide now as it was the year dr. king was shot. so much for trump's economy being the best ever for black people. not relatively. and relative ti matters. they're most likely to be unemployed and underemployed. blacks don't invest nearly as much as whites. even when you include 401(k)s, systemic racism extends to government programs as well. going back to the new deal. the federal housing program that helped build the suburbs is often off-limits to blacks. lending practices, red lining, you know, drawing an area around black neighborhoods illegal but their effects linger. blacks are less likely to own a

home than bhiwhites. those that do buy a home have to put down more money. the equity cushion it's called. they have to pay for a higher mortgage. meaning, what, that even when banks do lend to them, they have tougher terms, wheeven when similarly situated to whites. then there is the question of how you get between work and home? the highway system, this may not seem like a big deal. just think about it in terms of your existence. a marvel of american ingenuity by white america. the design skipped over black neighborhoods. even if there were as many on ramps in their communities, many people of color are less likely to own a car because of incoming credit challenges. thus, they're more likely to depend on public transportation. we invest in buses and trains. so again, systemically, they are disserved. then there is the question of what to do with your kids. black families work more. and as we've seen earn less.

what does that mean? it means taking care of your kids harder. you don't have the time or money. childcare, are tough decision. once they get into the school system, this is big, because this is all about the roadway to opportunity. the impact of history still hangs over their head. 58 years between plesy versus ferguson and brown versus the board of education mandating integration. that period wound up influencing how our school system works more arguably than the 62 years since the little rock nine. districts with mostly students of color get $23 billion less in funding than white school districts despite serving the same number of kids. less money means less power, less pay for teachers, less access to extra contradict lars and services and systems. we pay for schools with property taxes, right? black communities can't support the tax base that power schools and many white communities. even when you adjust for poverty, more is still spent on white students y?

systemic racism. even how we discipline kids in schools is affected by systemic racism. how do we know? a white kid gets in trouble, a fight at school. the results look like this. trip to the principal's office. black kid gets in trouble at school, more likely to be disciplined. how? suspended. wind up in juvenile justice. why? systemic racism. built into the fabric of the nation as built in as the food we eat, the air we breathe, and the water we drink. why? because they're all worse in places of poverty. remember flint, the faces of that suffering? they still suffer today. the faces are still the same color. even how we connect. doesn't matter how much you get paid f you're black, you get less access to the internet. quite literally a matter of life and death. look at the coronavirus, who is getting sick the most? who's dying the snoest who are the largest percentage of essential workers working in the midst this risk in our health care system? minorities.

and they're less likely to have insurance. less likely to have access to good care. they have more premature births, shorter life expectancy. they check more of the boxes of chronic conditions. the american academy of pediatrics identified the root cause of health problems over a lifetime is racism. not race itself. the disparities caused by racism. finally, the black communities ability to change these disparities should be through our democracy. but their voting rights are compromised. jerry mandering. okay? voter suppression. this is what trump should be talking about. he doesn't. not mysterious illegals. threaten is policing. this is not about the police. this is about people and bad apples. it's about the or card. it's about the system.

again, systemic policies and tactics that work against blacks dispoe portion natalie. cops are more likely to pull over black drivers when you adjust for day time and night time stops that may make it hard to tell who is driving. people of color are more likely to be searched while stopped. even though whites are more likely to have drugs on them. prisons overcrowded. filled with black faces, harsher sentences and more police encounters in their communities. that's what you get. the more in the prisons. blacks are more likely to have the caps callops called on them. and while the vast majority of the time those cases don't make the news and don't end with those losing their lives, still happens. when someone does die at the hands of a police officer, they're more likely to be black. two reasons someone like larry kudlow would say they don't see systemic racism in this country, he doesn't see it. i believe the real reason is he is