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just moments ago republicans announced that they will now hold the primetime portion of their convention when the president accepts his nomination in jacksonville, florida. this comes after president trump was angry that north carolina's governor, whose city of charlotte was to hold the entire convention, would not allow mass gatherings of people while his state is still battling the coronavirus. the news also comes as the president announced his first big campaign rally next week as reported in tulsa, oklahoma. another mass gathering of people. and the man famous for making employees sign non-disclosure agreements is requiring that attendees sign a non-liability waiver. the invitation has this at bottom.
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"by click the registration below you're acknowledging a risk of covid-19 exists wherever people are present. by taejd the rally and you guests accept all risks and agree ton hold donald j. trump for president incorporated as well as many others liable for any illness or injury." that number could reach 170,000 more deaths by october. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> hey, anderson. thank you very much. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time." all eyes are on seattle. and trump sees an opportunity. to make everything that's happening there and really everywhere about his political opponents and their radical ranks. his move calls to dominate the people on the streets, dangling troops again. wonder what effect that will have on people who say they are tired of being dominated. on the same day the head of the
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joifrnt chiefs apologized for even the six of military presence in our politics, trump, tone deaf once again, doubled down. >> seattle would be so easy to solve. we have to dominate the streets. you can't let that happen, what happened in new york city. the damage they've done. you have to dominate the streets. if you think about it, we're dominating the street with compassion because we're saving lives. >> dominating the street with compassion. if that doesn't tell you everything that trump doesn't know, i don't know what will. when i say he is tone-deaf, i mean to calls for equity and justice. that is because he is singing a different tune. it's more like a dog whistle, right? to his base. and too many of them want to see the people who are begging for change put down. the governor of washington, however, is pushing back, saying his state won't allow threats of military violence from the white
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house. the mayor of seattle calls it a threat to invade and is calling on trump to go back to his bunker. she's going to have more to say to us in just a moment. but first let's get to the streets of seattle. dan simon is there. dan, what's the situation? >> reporter: this is the seattle police station that has essentially been taken over by protesters. you can see it's been totally defaced. it used to say the seattle police department and now it says the seattle people department. and all the windows are boarded up because the officers who work at this station essentially abandoned ship. let me explain how this came about. you had several days of violent clashes between police and protesters in front of this station, and there was tear gas deployed. it was a terrible situation. and officers within the department made the calculated decision they wanted to try to deescalate things. so they decided to pack up and leave. and when that happened you had a void and protesters filled that void. and that's what you've had since monday. now, despite the fact that this
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all gun violently, right now it's entirely peaceful. in fact, you can see these protesters behind me. in fact, let's pan the camera around. it really has the feel of a street festival. they're serving food down there. they're giving out free food. there's medical tents. people are hanging out. they have movies at night. there's live music. so that's what the situation is like now. but right now there appears to be no strategy in place on the part of the city to take back this police department. we don't know how long this is going to go for. but they seem to be content at the moment just to let them have the run of the place. chris? >> all right, dann, thank you very much. appreciate it. be safe. check back with us if there's something we need to report during our watch. let's bring in the mayor of seattle now, going toe to toe with the president today, but let's deal with her own problems at home in her back yard. first jenny durkin. welcome back, ms. mayor. it's good to have you. >> good to see you, chris. glad you're back and healthy. >> thank you. thank you for the good word. so i don't have to tell you
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about the situation on the ground in your city, but in terms of how it looks to the rest of the country and the president teeing it up as basically ineptitude, the inability to control your own streets. is that fair criticism? >> so i know it will shock you that the president is not giving a truthful picture. we have four blocks that's more like a block party atmosphere. it's not an armed takeover. it's not a military junta. we will make sure that we can restore this. but we have block parties and the like in this part of seattle all the time. it's known for that. so i think the president -- number one, there is no threat right now to the public. and we're looking, we're taking that very seriously. we're meeting with businesses and residents. but what the president threatened is illegal and unconstitutional. and the fact he can think he can just tweet that and not have ramifications is just wrong. >> the counter will be block
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parties don't take over municipal building let alone a police station and destroy it, basically thumbing their nose at any sense of civic control. do you believe that you have control of your city and that you would be able to clear those streets? because you haven't. >> we do. and the chief of police was in that precinct today with her command staff looking and assessing operational plans. but we saw that it was a point of conflict night after night between the police department and protesters and we wanted to dees claitd that and we decided the best way to do that was reopen the streets. and that itself ended up with some ramifications for the precinct, to remove anything that was valuable out of that building. but we will make sure that all of seattle is safe. we take public safety seriously. but the description the president has given is not only wrong but if it were right his remedy is wrong. you don't dominate. remember why we're here. you know, we're here because the
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nation saw mr. floyd murder ed. and that lit a match across this country. and we have to acknowledge and know that we have a system that is built on systemic racism and we have to dismantle that system piece by piece. we have to empower the black community and communities of color. and we have to invest in their health and their safety and their education and opportunity. >> mayor, the other counter by the president and many people on the right will be, well, of course, durkn has a d after her name, she's going be to okay with this because these are her people, these are those left-wing radicals and anarchists. you barely see any black or african-american faces on those streets. this is about lofty radicalism run amok in your city and you see okay with it. >> chris, as you know, i was the united states attorney here in seattle and during that time as united states attorney we investigated and prosecuted a whole range of bad actors including militia groups and
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drug cartels, anarchists and the like. we have our public safety approach in one way. and during this time a number one priority every american city has is to protect the first american right. our country was born at a protest. the right to gather, the right to protest, the right to challenge government when it's wrong is our most fundamental constitutional iet. it's the reason it's the first amendment. and as the mayor of this city i will do everything to protect that right and balance the public safety. i think not only can we do both, i think we have to do both. >> and what is the response to the president's call to dominate with compassion? he says solving your problem within easy if you were strong and not weak. your response was you want to help? go back to the bunker. tough words. >> look, we know the last time i spoke with you we were talking
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about the pandemic. and i would yearn for just one positive thing the white house would give us either on that public crisis or the public crisis we're facing right now on systemic racism. we need a president engaged to bring america together, to heal. and in the case of coronavirus to literally heal. to give me as a mayor the testing capacity i need. the ability to have the drugs that can treat it. and when vaccines come to be fully safe and free for people. i want ppe for my nurses and firefighters. instead i'm searching the globe for those things so that we can have testing and treatment for people here in seattle. so i would say to the president that if you want to do good for america start doing good for america. we need you in that fight. we need -- we can harness the beautiful innovation of american manufacturing and workers to build a system that actually produces enough testing so that we can control this virus. we know we're going to see an uptick in it.
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this president's not in the fight. instead he just wants to start a fight. >> look, what's happening on your streets isn't going to be helpful to the case load either. we know that. we do see people with masks. but obviously the big risk is as we move back out into public and reopen, having people in tight spaces like this can't be helpful. it's outside. that's one mitigating factor. but you know there's risk. i want to just get a clear sense of this, though, mayor. why do you believe the president chose to talk about domination in the face of what's happening not just in your city but in many instances when it comes to what the remedy is for the unrest in the country right now? what do you think this is about for him? >> i think it shows a complete lack of understanding of why people are in the street. they're in the street fighting a system of domination. and he doesn't understand that. and his response is always one that's bellicose and militaristic. but he doesn't honor the
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military in that way either. as you've seen from the line of generals that have disputed him. can so i think he says dominate because he totally does not understand what is happening in america and he is desperately trying to start the old fights and the old divisions that put him in power in the first place. >> how long do you think seattle and those few blocks looks like this? >> i don't know. we could have a summer of love. >> tell that to the police who were supposed to be in that precinct, though. but i understand your sentiment, mayor. i wish you well. we'll stay on the story. you'll always have this platform to talk about it. >> hey, chris, the police will be policing in there. i want to be very clear on that. our chief of police was in there assessing today. we take public safety very seriously. we met with businesses and residents today. we don't have to sacrifice public safety for first amendment rights. both can exist and we'll make sure that both exist in seattle. >> we'll be watching to see how it unfolds. the best to you. good to see you. thank you for being on the show. >> thank you, chris.
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take care. >> so how do we get to a better place? you know you have to have conversations. but most acutely you have to have discussions with and among the powerful. right? noticeably absent from trump's roundtable, i don't know if you heard about it, he had a roundtable today on race and policing in dallas. now, three top law enforcement officials in the county, the dallas police chief, the sheriff, and the district attorney, all black, they weren't there. they weren't invited. why not is the question. and guess who we have. one of them to tell his side of the story next. life isn't a straight line. and sometimes, you can find yourself heading in a new direction. but when you're with fidelity, a partner who makes sure every step is clear, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward.
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so remember where we are, as if you need reminding. we're in the midst of a national outpouring over systemic racism. and for those of you who believe it doesn't exist, i have something special for you that the team and i did later in the show. the president, however, today said this. >> we have to work together to confront bigotry and prejudice wherever they appear, but we'll make no progress and heal no wounds by falsely labeling tens of millions of decent americans as racists or bigots. >> so his concern is for the feelings and impact on the people who aren't being discriminated against. but he has still said nothing
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about what led people to take to the streets. even the words that are written for him are remarkably hollow on this. remember, he didn't write that. he's reading it. with some effort. even then the message falls flat. why? that's the big question for us. today they hold a roundtable in dallas on race relation cans and policing and instead again of taking an opportunity to speak out against violence against black people at an event promoted as addressing justice disparities, he lauded police forces. which he should. okay? there's no reason to bash the police as an institution. we need them. it's about how they do the job for everybody the right way. and he described those who use excessive force as mere bad apples. but the bad apples in an orchard that has problems. but you have to address it. and how can you address it
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without the people who are doing the job right there? the three top black law enforcement officials in the reernlgs the dallas police chief the sheriff and the district attorney. they weren't there. they weren't even invited. dallas county district attorney john cruzo joins me now. sir, thank you for taking the opportunity. >> thank you. and we're happy that you're better and well. >> i appreciate it. i've done a lot of good work with your office and the police in dallas over the years. always welcome there and always welcome on this show as well. and just to be clear about the record, mr. district attorney, am i right that you were not invited? not that you didn't go out of protest, you were busy, you had something else. >> no, i was not invited. i didn't hear anything from his office or anybody about going there. >> how do you explain it? >> well, i guess my viewpoint is not valued by the president or his team. i quite frankly don't understand
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how you could come to a large metropolitan area, this is one of the largest in the united states, we've had protests, we've had a little bit of violence but a lot of peaceful protest, and we've come together as a community. and we have policing issues and problems just like other major metropolitan areas. and to not have the interest to talk to individuals who are in the midst of this, who are administering criminal justice in the community, just unthinkable to me. i can't imagine yes wouldn't want to hear from us. >> what do you make of one of his main economic advisers saying there's no such thing as systemic racism and the president saying this problem begins and ends with just a few bad apples? >> well, that's not reality. i think any serious person who wants to be honest about these issues understands that there is systemic racism not only in
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police institutions but in most of our american institutions. and to hide from it and to deny it is once again to put people of color and people of conscience in an awful spot, that their president and his advisers seem to not deal with reality. and it's not what we want. it's not what we deserve. and i just hope that we can sometime in the near future do much better. >> the president looks at a situation like seattle, what we have here in new york city, and says the answer is clear. dominate. bring in the military. show them who's boss. might makes right. what do you think of that approach to what brings people to the streets? >> well, it sounds like post-reconstruction in a different form and fashion. you know, we're the power and we're going to tell you what to do. if you have anything to say that's contrary to what we think and what we want, we're going to suppress it. and if it means violence, then that's what we'll do.
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if it means bringing in the military, which thank god that they're resisting those efforts of his, but it's just that same strong man type of talk. it's not american. it's not our values. it should be rejected by everyone. >> look, in all likelihood you weren't invited because there's a d after your name. and he is pretty clear about who he wants around him. he wants people he knows are going to tell him the right thing. and maybe he didn't think he'd be getting that even though he was sitting in a city with none of the people in charge at the table with him. but let's do this, district attorney. you do have a seat at this table. you always will. this show and this network exists to have this kind of discussion for the american people. so you are welcome back on this show. we have to have a lot of conversations about what needs to change to make this country a more perfect union. you are invited, sir. >> well, thank you, sir. and good luck to you. >> thank you very much. district attorney creuzot, good
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luck to you. god bless the family. also in dallas county, another reason that it was interesting for the president to be there and give no voice to another pressing concern. a new record high for covid cases in a single day was just set in dallas. what a coincidence. the virus is also now exploding in one of the first states to reopen last month. is there a connection between those two elements? the new hot spots, what it means for all of us in this fight. we're learning more. let's share it, next. you hear that?
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and something we have to look at. a quarter of all its covid cases. so one of every four cases it's had came in the past week. during the warm months. you know, it's a different season there. but what is this about? the state's now telling hospitals to activate emergency plans. and for those who tell you these numbers are all fugaze, that's illogic. more cases are a concern, period. look at texas. more than 2,000 people there were hospitalized. hospitalized. yesterday. that's the highest number since the pandemic began. hospitalizations are not about testing. and now dallas county where the president was today, hit a record high in positive cases. and he said nothing about it. i wonder why. why doesn't he dominate that? if you think this is all over, that it's time for us to race back, it's summer, we're getting a break from covid now, it's just not the reality.
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everybody wants to reopen. but be clear. reopening does not mean that the covid pandemic is over. cases are climbing. we're past the 2 million-case mark. and this is not about simply doing more counting. it's about contagion. let's look at hospitalizations. von, put the graph up. look at these hot spot states. south carolina, texas, arizona. i'm going to get you a graphic on them. in all three of those places, south carolina, not so impressive. but texas and arizona you're going to see big growth in hospitalizations. that's not about counting. it's about contagion. and of course the death toll continues to rise. okay? you see here, this is in texas. you see hospitalizations. okay? you see up, up, up.
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that's not about counting. put up the next state. arizona, you'll see same kind of thing. south carolina you'll see is it more flat. i'll show you both. don't worry about it. there's arizona. okay? pretty scary. we're going to dig deeper into arizona. we have to figure out what's going on there. this isn't just rolling across the country. there's something else going on there. you have to look at it. and then you have to of course focus on death toll. the latest model used by the white house is predict the toll could hit 17 0,000 by october. that would be 50,000 plus more lives lost in just the next four months. let's bring in dr. william schaffner. always good to see you, doc. >> good to be with you, chris. >> the idea of why this is happening, this should not be a surprise. we were hoping to get a break in the summer months. but reopening can kind of cancel out the break that you thought you get by being outside and having better weather for
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transmission advantage if it's not done correctly. yes? >> oh, for sure. covid's not taking a summer vacation. it's actually having new opportunities to spread. but of course we knew that would happen. once we opened up and we were talking about how you had to balance that. opening up for all the economy, social and cultural advantages, which was absolutely necessary, but we had to do it carefully in order to not make too much medical and public health damage at the same time. this is a tricky matter. and if people are carefree rather than careful, well, then you'll see an increase in cases. and i'm with you. i think these hospitalization numbers are the ones that are the most ominous and reliable. them going up here, there, not everywhere yet, thank goodness. we have to be on the alert.
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the projection the white house relies on that shows 57,000 more people projected to die from covid in the next four months, what does that suggest to you in terms of why that would be happening? >> well, obviously, more opportunities for people to get close to each other, whether in small groups or larger groups, that's an opportunity for this virus to spread. it loves to get close to people and spread from one to another. and if you do it in groups, it can spread widely and more quickly. so that's a substantial -- it's just a model, but nonetheless, it's a substantial number anticipated during what were supposed to be or hoped for the quieter months. >> hey, doc, one of the reasons i rely on you, and we've talked about this before on and off cameras, is this stuff gets really confusing really fast for people. and that's if everything that's told to them is accurate. you know, we've had a change in masks. we've had a change in distance.
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we've had a change in viral load. we've had a change in duration. everything keeps changing as you guys learn about things. i understand that. but it's confusing for people. and then today the cdc director, tom frieden, said we're not focusing on the most important trends. we're giving too much weight to numbers that have little meaning. case count numbers. number of tests conducted. obviously former director of the cdc tom frieden. he'd be out in an afternoon if he was in there right now talking this way. if you're not on the bus with trump you're out. test positivity rates. are we focusing on the wrong things? and if so why and what are the right things? >> well, i think it's an accumulation of things. and i think testing provides some information but you've got to look at it with care. whom are we testing? are we focused on high-risk populations? then we have to take that into account because we'll find many, many more cases. if you start testing people who have no symptoms and are at low
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risk, obviously you won't find as many cases. but you and i both like that number that we just talked about. people who are hospitalized with laboratory-diagnosed covid. because for the last several months we've had enough testing capacity to test those people. so those are good hard numbers. watch those trends. as we say, it's a bit of a lagging indicator. it lags a little bit behind the actual infection by a week, week and a half. but it's a solid indicator of how we're doing. and it also is a measure of the stress on the health care system. so that's a very useful indicator. >> yeah, i totally agree with that because that lets you know what your capacity is in terms of what else you can handle and those are the real cases. not to disrespect anybody who had it, but i include myself in that disrespect if that's what i'm doing. there were a couple of days where i was afraid i'd become one of those hospitalizations, but i didn't. and if people can deal with this at home that's one kind of illness. tough to be in the hospital it's
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a whole different layer of potential outcomes. that's why i think it deserves acute focus. dr. schaaf ner, thank you very much. i'll probably call on you if not tonight tomorrow morning to get your help on arizona. what's happening there is worrying experts. we've got to take a deeper look. i'd love to get your help on that. god bless. have a good night. >> good night. >> again, what do you do in a time like this if you're a leader? trying to send the right message about the pandemic and what's going to happen. you're telling people to wear masks. you're telling them to go slow. you tell them to be careful. you tell them to watch what's going on. right? all deliberate speed. not this president. rally time. the worst thing you could do in the middle of this pandemic. and by the way, he's having people sign a release form. isn't that nice? please come. but if anything happens, go away. what a familiar situation for so many of thinks business endeavors. he's taking a lot of heat. but he doesn't care. he doesn't care. and the question becomes where
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is he going to kick it off and on what day? juneteenth in tulsa. do you know what juneteenth is about? do you know what happened in tulsa, the site of one of the worst race massacres in american history. but? are saying no, no, no, you have it wrong, the president's doing the right thing. we have one of his defenders, a congressman who represents tulsa, next.
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back to preaching to his base in person. next week at his first rally since this pandemic exploded. is that a smart move, to have a rally during a pandemic? and then you get to the more sensitive issue. he's having it in tulsa, oklahoma on juneteenth. okay? tulsa. of course the site of one of the worst racist massacres in our country's history. juneteenth a holiday marking the emancipation of slaves specifically in texas, the last holdout in the confederacy to make that move. so joining us now is republican congressman kevin hern. he represents tulsa. hey, congressman, i appreciate you taking this conversation on. >> chris, thank you for having me tonight. >> the first concern is we're in the middle of a pandemic. you guys aren't out of the woods. we're trying to help people do things in the smartest way. a political rally checks every box of risk. trump campaign knows that. so he's having people check one more box, which is a release.
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that if they come they don't have any recourse against the campaign if anything happens. you think that's a good mix? >> let's take the first part of that first, by coming to oklahoma. it is to your point a strong base for him. the president won all 77 counties the last time around. all the statewide races, offices are filled with republican leadership. very strong base here. he has a favorability among thinks base of about 91%. so he's coming here -- okay o y oklahomans are doing a great job. the governor's pushed to be a top ten state in everything he does. he's a business guy. i've been in business 35 years before getting into congress this first term. and you want to look and reward people who've done a great job for you. there won't be any democrats at the rally i'm sure. the republicans will decide whether they feel like they should go or not -- >> but congressman, forgive me, but i don't care about any of this. you're not encouraging people to go to concerts. i'm glad that he has 91%
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approval. i'm glad that oklahoma is a strong base for the president. that's irrelevant in my question. my question is you're not letting people have concerts and go and have big gatherings. why let the president do it? >> well, we're in phase 3 now. so the gatherings have expanded. we've opened back up our baseball fields. you have thousands of people. baseball and soccer is huge here. and you have a lot of gatherings that are going on. while we have seen an uptick, we have a lost increase in test going on, we have about 70 people hospitalized across the state. and so about 357 deaths, which is tragic. every death is tragic. i know you've had the covid-19 virus and it's devastating. but people want to make a decision to get back out and those who want to choose to stay home can do so. >> understood. >> if you're wear masks -- you know what it's like. and they've made a decision that they want to go see and president. if they don't they can stay home and watch it on tv. >> of course. i'm not going to have you answer for the fact he's having them sign a release. if it were a state issue, if you
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guys were doing it -- >> i'd love to speak to that. i mean, if you go to the b.o.k. concert, any concert ticket you go to, whether it's a basketball game, hockey game or if you go to a baseball game, if you read the fine print on that ticket it says if you get hit by i broken bat you're responsible. >> it's different. covid-19 is not an inherent threat of the assumed liability that you have in going to a sporting event. if baseball it is a natural occurrence that a bat may break, a ball may fly and god forbid someone gets hit. covid-19 is not something that we just assume people take the risk on. but let's not get too in the weeds on that. tulsa and juneteenth. do you think it's incumbent upon the president that if he is going to hold a rally in that city during that thyme muime th must address the systemic racism that is putting people on the streets all across this country and do it in a way that shows deference to the problem and not pretending that it will just
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disappear? >> i do. and i think it's a turning point for the president to have an opportunity to come here. i haven't talked to the presidential personally about this but i think that's part of the strategy for coming here, is to be in an environment -- i mean, as a business person and what we know about this president whether you or others don't like him is that he is willing to take on the tough battles. we've seen that with trade. we've seen that with china. we've seen that with iran. we could go on and on. and racism in america has been around for hundreds of years. we fought a war. we lost more american and women in a war than we've ever lost in all other wars almost combined. we have seen what's happened. the president knows very vividly what happened here 99 years ago on may 31st and june 1st. and i think if you're going to tackle the worst problem that's immediately in front of you you go to where it is the most prevalent and it's the most obvious. and right now -- >> but then you have to speak to it. >> you do. >> and he has never done that. and just to make the record very clear, if i didn't like the president i just wouldn't talk
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to you about him. i talk to you about him because he matters. it's not a personal situation. i'm sure i've known him a lot longer than you have. our mothers used to get their hair done at the same place. so it's not a personal thing. it's about his responsibility. i do wish he didn't sic his followers on my kids as often online as he does. but i digress. what i'm saying about this is he hasn't spoken to these issues. and you know it. and he's going to be walking into a city where the police chief just said all the research says we're shooting african-americans about 24% less than we probably ought to be based on the crimes being committed. do you back up that statement? >> well, first of all, let me change the story there. it wasn't the police chief. the police chief is wendell frank lynn who was just duly appointed, hired by the mayor just a few months ago. he's an african-american. he was referencing -- you're referencing a major that spoke -- >> tulsa police department major travis yates. >> yeah. that's right. >> not the chief. not the chief.
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tulsa police department major travis yates. do you back up the sentiment? now that we have the right mouth that it came out of. >> well, the police chief is very much understanding of what needs to happen as far as mending relationships and doing what other leaders have not done in the history of this country. not barack or do you disagree with it? >> i think it was a terrible statement to be made. and i think you see the police chief, quickly, come out and condemn that. you saw the mayor say that. i didn't hear it, personally. i read it, just probably like everybody else did. but that's clearly -- either, he misspoke or he, clearly, has an opportunity to correct the record about what he said. >> i appreciate you speaking to it directly and to the situation. and i hope the president takes your advice, and discusses what's happening on the streets of this country, and why they're there, finally. because we need leadership on this issue, to get anywhere that is even approximating a better place. congressman kevin hern, i wish
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you the best. >> thank you, chris. >> thank you for taking the opportunity. all right. there's been a new awakening about systemic racism in america. a top white house official isn't buying any of it. he says it doesn't exist. so, once and for all, you want to know whether or not there's systemic racism? give me about five minutes. next. [♪] if you experience bladder leaks, you shouldn't have to sacrifice discretion for protection. try always discreet. the unique design features protective leakguards,
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with trump's economic advisor saying this. >> i don't believe, nowadays, we have systemic racism. >> you said you don't believe systemic racism -- >> i do not. >> at all in the u.s.? >> i do not. >> you don't think there's any systemic racism against african-americans in the united states? >> i will say it again, i do not. >> all right. this isn't believing in something like tooth fairy. all right.
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it's about fact. he is wrong. it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. and it is fact that you see, everywhere you look, in black and white. the immediate proof is in the cabinet. trump has one black cabinet member and one black domestic policy advisor. kudlow is the economic advisor so let's start with the economy. white people make more money than blacks do, period. even if they have the same level of education. even if they're in the same jobs. in fact, that fundamental divide is as wide now, as it was the year dr. king was shot. so much for trump's economy being the best ever for black people. not relatively. and relativity matters. black people are, not only more likely to be unemployed, they're also more likely to be underemployed. for all mr. kudlow's talk about the stock market, blacks don't invest nearly as much as whites. even when you include 401(k)s, systemic racism extends to government programs as well. going back to the new deal. the federal housing program that
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helped build the suburbs was often off limits to blacks. redlining, drawing an area around black neighborhoods. illegal. blacks are far less likely to own a home than whites. a gap that's only widened since 2004. and those that do buy a home have to put down more money. the equity cushion, it's called. and they have to pay for a higher mortgage. meaning what? that, even when banks do lend to them, they have tougher terms, even when similarly situated to whites. then, there's the question of how you get between work and home. the highway system. this may not seem like a big deal. but just think about it in terms of your existence. a marvel in american ingenuity by white america but its design skipped over black neighborhoods. even if there were as many on-ramps in their communities, many people of color are less likely to own a car because of income and credit challenges. thus, they more likely depend on public transportation.
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we invest in buses and trains, a fraction what we spend on the highway. so systemically, they are disserved. then, there's the question of what to do with your kids. it means taking care of your kids harder. you don't have the time and you don't have the money. child care, tough decision. once they get into the school system, and this is big because this is all about the roadway to opportunity. the impact of history still hangs over their head. 58 years between plussee versus ferguson, and brown versus board of education, mandating integration. that period wound up influencing how our school system works. districts with mostly students of color get 23 billion less in funding than white school districts, despite serving about the same number of kids. less money means less power, right? less pay for teachers. less access to extracurriculars and services and systems. right? we generally pay for things like
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schools with things like property taxes, right? and black communities can't support the kind of tax base of power schools in white communities. and even when you adjust for poverty, more is spent on white students. why? systemic racism. even how we discipline kids in schools is affected by systemic racism. how do we know? a white kid gets in trouble a fight at school. the results often look like this. trip to the principal's office. black kid gets in trouble at school. more likely to be disciplined. how? suspended. wind up in juvenile justice. why? systemic racism, built into the fabric of the nation, as built in as the food we eat, the air we breathe, and the water we drink. why? because they are all worse in places of poverty. remember flint? the faces of that suffering? they still suffer today. the faces are still the same color. even how we connect. doesn't matter how much you get paid. if you're black, you got less access to the internet. it's, quite literally, a matter of life and death as well. look at the coronavirus
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pandemic. who is getting sick the most? who's dying the most? who are the largest percentage of essential workers, working in the midst of this risk, in our healthcare system? minorities, and they're less likely to have insurance. they're less likely to have access to good care. they have more premature births. they have shorter life expectancy. they check more of the boxes of chronic conditions. the american academy of pediatrics, last year, identified the root cause of health problems over a lifetime is racism. not race, itself. the disparities caused by racism. finally, the black community's ability to change these disparities should be through our democracy. but their voting rights are compromised. gerrymandering. okay? voter suppression. this is what trump should be talking about but he doesn't. not mysterious illegals. but real legalities like we, arguably, just saw in
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