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hello, everyone. i'm kate balduan. thanks so much for joining us for the next couple of hour. as the groundswell for change grows, president trump is showing no sign that he's ready to adapt. cnn has learned that a number of trump advisers from white house aides to lawmakers to business executives have encouraged the president to adapt his tone because of the reality on the ground and also because of the reality of his political standing right now. still, he refuses, and so more and more the president is increasingly on an island, out of step with where the country appears to be, moving on racial justice, including even republicans and out of step with the scientific facts of the
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coronavirus pandemic. there's a lot to get to. let's start with cnn's john harwood who joins me now from the white house. john, what are you hearing about how the president is responding to this pressure? >> reporter: well, we can see how he's responding, kate. saw it in dallas at the roundtable yesterday, and what he's doing is seeing this wave for change that is sweeping across public opinion and the country, black and white, and he's pushing back against it. the president is stuck in the world view that has characterized his life. racial conflict has been a big part of his life when he was in private business and as a political strategy, and now he leads a political party that relies almost exclusively on white votes and base he leads within that party is the most racially conservative whites, the kind of people who think that discrimination against whites or excessive concern for equal rights is as much a problem as racism is, so you saw him in that roundtable saying that we're not going to solve
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this problem by accusing a bunch of good people of bigotry or on police when he was talking about the video of george floyd's murder. he said that, well, people are going to react to that and say all police are bad. they are not all bad. of course, most americans are taking the view that that indicates a problem, and the president said on this idea of radically changing police departments, we're not going to do that either. take a listen. >> we're not defunding police. if anything we're going the other route. we'll make sure that our police are well trained, perfectly trained, that they have the best equipment. >> reporter: probably the strongest illustration of this, kate, is when the president was celebrating the way that federal officers have -- and national guard have cut through protesters, he said, like a knife through butter. the forceful put down of protests is something that he was hailing as a good thing. >> john, the president also
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seems to be ignoring the guidance of medical experts when it comes to the danger of the coronavirus. i mean, we have the video from dallas yesterday. no social distancing, no masks. the big campaign rally that he's moving ahead with in tulsa next week completely violating guidelines from his own government against large gatherings, but yet is requiring -- but, yet, they are requiring anyone who attends the rally next week to sign a waiver. seriously? >> look, kate, he -- the trump campaign knows what it's doing here. he's trying to aggressively move past covid. he es's all but given up on fight for containing covid in terms of his own personal efforts, but they understand that there's a risk out there, and that's why they are pushing this waiver from liability and telling people if you want to come, and there are -- he's going to have a big crowd at that rally, they need to sign that waiver. it reflection what's going on in congress where republican legislators are saying if we're
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going to pass aid to cities and other steps to try to mitigate the problem with the coronavirus, we need to provide liability for businesses. they understand, too, that there's a lot of risk involved, and they are trying, both the republicans in the congress, as well as trump campaign, trying to get around that risk and mitigate it for themselves. >> yet the cdc is still -- still suggesting and telling everyone that large gatherings like that are not where any state need to be at this moment. >> reporter: that's correct. >> thanks very much. let's take a closer look at the reality of where we are with the pandemic. 19 states are sewing an increasing number of cases, some facing troubling spikes and even more troubling spikes in hospitalizations. i want to show you what the country looks like as a whole. we've got governors as you look at this, know that there are governors in utah and oregon right now so worried about the trends that they are putting a pause on their reopening plans, experts also very concerned about what is happening in
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arizona, in south carolina and also texas. here's a look at where the country is seeing an uptick in hospitalizations and you see texas is on that list. harris county, the third largest county in texas, is particularly concerning. the top elected official in the county there saying this yesterday. we may be approaching the precipice of a disaster. that official harris county judge joins me right now. thank you so much for coming in. i really appreciate it. you also describe the situation in your county as out of hand right now. what are you seeing that is troubling you so much? >> look, here are the facts. first, we had the highest numbers in our general population of our hospitals on monday, and it only went up from there. second, we are seeing a statistically significant increase over the last seven days and the last 14 days in our hospitalizations so that only continues to grow, and finally
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despite our best efforts we've got a small army of contact tracers testing ice haitian for folks and homelessness. we don't see evidence that our public health interventions are being able to contain, to control the spread of that virus, so i want to give our community that alarm, sound that alarm that we've got to take action now so that we avoid a shutdown in the future. >> and that is so important because short of -- until there is a vaccine, it is only contact tracing and testing and those kind of mitigation efforts that can be used as we have well known at this point to stop the spread. we're saying it's not best efforts not up to par. do you think the state opened too quickly, or people just aren't being careful enough? >> i've always said i think the reopening time shrine a little too fast. i wouldn't have done it that quickly. my commitment has been to try and make it work, and that's
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what we're still trying to do, but, you know, we've thrown everything we can at it and the reality of it is where it comes a point where folks are having so many contacts because there's a message that they can, that it's impossible to keep up, so what i'm telling the community is, look, we're not at red. we unveiled a four-level system. we're at orange. if we keep going in this direction we would be at red. we've got plenty of hospital space still but if that rate is increasing too quickly we should be concerned, so my message is despite, you know, whatever messages you're hearing otherwise, people right now should be minimizing all contact, and, please, take personal responsibility because if we don't, you know, ever since that trend started it was two, three weeks after the phase one reopening by the state, and since we've only had two more phases of reopening, we had memorial day, mother's day, of course, all of the demonstrations. we're seeing now the impacts of
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what happened two, three, four weeks ago, is right, but since then we've only had more and more contacts, so i really -- i want the economy to reopen as much as anyone. i just want it to be sustainable. i don't want us to be ping-ponging between open and close, and that's why it's pope for us local officials to have the bandwidth to really figure out do we have the tools to reopen before we do so? >> judge, you are talking and suggesting about getting closer to needing to shut down again, to issue a stay-at-home orders again. i'm curious as to how close you think you are, and do you have the power to shut down in harris county because i know the governor had broad power in terms of reopening, ordering reopening of the state. >> yeah. so in terms of what would get us there, we're watching the rate with which those admissions are increasing of the right now it's not quite linear, but it's not exponential either. it's a slight curve, so we have
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to see if that speeds up. right now over 15% of our icu space is being taken by covid patients which is alarming so if that percentage grows, again, that would get us closer to that place so every single dale i'm watching those numbers. in terms of the authority, yes, i no longer have -- initially i had the authority to order things shut. no longer do i have that authority. the governor has pre-eemted tmpt authority. i'm communicating with him h.governor, are you seeing what i'm saying and let's work together on this. those are ongoing communications but i'm also responsible for my community and my county it's houston and 32 other cities, and that's why i'm saying, you know, the orders always were guidelines. they weren't about being a police state, and so, you know, it was successful because people were part of the solution. we couldn't have cops on every street corner making sure that folks were doing what they were
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supposed to do. it's the same thing as, guys, we need your cooperation right now. of course, it's easier if they receive consistent messages, and so that's why we're in touch with the state as well. >> judge, thank you for coming on. i'm really struck by -- we're having this conversation in mid-june, right, and this sounds like a conversation i would have with the governor of new york back three months ago when this was really starting to kick up. it's really striking what you're facing right now in harris county. thanks, judge. really appreciate your time. >> thank you. also joining me right now is the professor of infectious diseases at and have built university medical school. we always lean on you, doctor, in times like this to understand the course of a virus. what we're looking at right now, but your reaction to what we just heard from the judge in texas, and what is happening in the third largest county in the country? it seems really troubling. >> well, kate, the judge is
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telling us something that's happening in harris county but across entire country. covid has not taken a vacation, and it's not going away in the summer, and indeed as we have opened up at various degrees of speed across the country, covid is taking advantage of that. covid is transmitted readily from person to person when we are in close proximity, is particularly indoors, but it can also happen outdoors, but as we get in close approximate im, as we get closer to more people for more prolong period of time as we are opening up, covid will take advantage of that and spread. it will spread and make people sick. some of those sick people will have to be hospitalized. this is a lesson for us throughout the whole country, so mask-wearing is the new normal. six-foot distancing, the new normal. not going out very much, staying at home, the new normal.
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avoiding large groups, the new normal. that's something all of us can do in order to keep the curve flattened. i wish every opening business in the entire waitz would put a big sign on the front door. please, do not enter unless you are wearing a mask. please respect the people who are working here to serve of you. that would normalize wearing masks. it's very important. i know it's become politicized. put that aside. the virus knows no politics. >> doctor, your words are so important in this moment. i have been told, obviously i'm not an expert, but i'm told by folks much smarter than i that for not looking at the -- the total number of case numbers but looking at the uptick in hospitalizations is where you can focus and what is
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particularly troubling. what does that indicate? what can the layman take from this? >> the number that we like to look at which is the firmest number is hospitalizations of people who have had laboratory-diagnosed covid. you see, hospitals have had testing available for really sick people in a sustained fashion over the last several months, so that hasn't varied with testing availability, and so that is a very steady number, and if hospitalizations are increasing, that means covid is being more transmitted. it's more infectious in your community. that's a number you can look at that really tells you where you're at. the it's different in different parts, but what you want to do is see that number go down, not up, and certainly if you're marking time and that number of hospitalization is steady,
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you're holding each, but you're marking time. what we need is for the number to go down, and to do that we all have to help each other and all pitch in to do our best. >> doctor, with the trends that we've seeing at the moment, do you think as the judge was indicating just before you, do you think that states and communities should start preparing or quite frankly warning and thinking about shutting parts of the economy back down again? >> i think you've just hit my heart. you know, it's always been a balancing act, and look at what's happened by the previous shutdown which was effective in lowering the curve and flattening the curve, but it's caused -- the shutdown has caused so much distress, so much social and cultural turbulence, people wanting to get out again, having cabin fever. i think it's unlikely that we
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will have a substantial shutdown again, but in order to minimize the medical impact as we open up, we must do it carefully, not carelessly, and so it's -- it's important for each of us, each individual throughout the country, to behave carefully. wearing a mask is very, very important. >> yeah. this is hitting at what we have thought and heard all along which is no matter what policies are put in place consistent messaging is exactly what is needed, absolutely most, doctor. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. t-mobile and sprint are joining forces to power your business. we're building a 5g network that will deliver unprecedented reach and reliability, and the highest capacity in history.
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>> the president returning to the campaign trail next week for the first time since the pandemic began with a big rally in tulsa, oklahoma. a reminder as i just said in the last segment we're in the midst of a pandemic. with that the trump campaign is requiring all rally--goers to sign a coronavirus waiver, protecting the campaign from liability if anyone gets sick at the rally. they are facing backlash for that. 99 years ago this month tulsa was the site of the worst incident of racial violence in the country, called the tulsa, massacre and the rally will be held on june 19th. juneteenth, the day marking the emancipation of slaves. joining me is the chairwoman of
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the democratic party. what do you think about people attending this rally having to sign this waiver? >> so, we're getting mixed messages from the president's campaign. first he said he's coming here to commemorate juneteenth and then he says he's coming other because we're in phase three in the wake of covid and the reality is our numbers are spiking or else why do they need the clause that they can't sue. that's inconsistent. >> what do you say to anyone going out to a rally right now, and i'm saying even in joe biden would begin holding rallies again, what would you say if the joe biden campaign would make a move like this, asking rally-goers to sign a waiver like this. >> here's the reality. it's unsafe. we are still in the middle of
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covid, and even in our town, our mayor has asked us to limit our gatherings, and so the fact that we've been asked to limit our gatherings, and a a lot of our juneteenth events have been cancelled and the president is coming in planning to pack a stadium with people. somehow masks have become a partisan issue, and so it is safe to assume that most of the people attending will not have masks and i am confident there will be no social distancing, and so i anticipate a spike which means i'm quarantined to my house for a little bit more time. i've been here since march. >> you and a lot of people. you have been outspoken about how painful it is that the president is holding this rally on juneteenth in tulsa. the president's spokesperson is defending the decision and here's how she said it. it's a meaningful day to him and it's a day where he wants to share some of the progress that's been made as we look
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forward and more that needs to be done. what's your reaction to that? >> those are beautiful words. they are not any way connected to the truth. he's coming on juneteenth. it means nothing to the president. he's done nothing in the three and a half years since he's been there to indicate that it means anything to him. he did not reach out to any of the leaders around black wall street and around the massacre site or around greenwood or juneteenth. they didn't reach out and every other dignitary who has been to town in the last year has reached out, has steeped themselves in our history, and so though the spokesperson wrote pretty words, they are not grounded in the truth. no one believes them. >> can i ask you. i want to play something that the president said yesterday when he was in dallas about tackling and trying to solve,
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even make progress with the problem of racism in this country. let me play this for you. >> i think we're going to do it very easily. it will go quickly and it will go very easily. >> it's going to go quickly and very easily. when you hear that, and we obviously know that there's nothing easy about it, but when you -- when you hear that's what the president said just yesterday, do you want to hear him talk about race, social justice? >> absolutely not, absolutely not. we all know that when he speaks extemporaneously he gaffs. i would rather have him not talk about racial inequality because he'd say it wrong. i'd rather him not talk about it. if there's something that can be done quickly and easily we wouldn't be having the conversation now. we've been a nation for quite a
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long time, and if we could have resolved it already, we would have or we should have, and if -- if he really believes it's something that can be resolved quickly why hasn't he done it yet? why hasn't he even addressed it with meaningful policies? >> i'm not even more curious to hear what happens at this rally next week. thanks so much for coming on. i appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. >> coming up next. definitely not the finest moment for the chicago police. wait until you see this. what more than a dozen police officers were doing while protests and violence were raging all around them in the city. we'll be right back. you hear that? that's your weathered deck, crying for help. while you do nothing, it's inviting those geese over for target practice.
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disgusting. what is the police department saying about this? >> reporter: well, this was astound when we first saw it. when the news conference started the phone began lighting up, and we watched as the mayor didn't mince any words. she really laid it owl ought there. mayor lightfoot has been brought in sort of as a reformer and one of things she's been paining to when we talk about police action. when you look at the video, the fact that officers were inside after someone spoke of someone breaking into the congressman's office and even three supervisors are amongst the officers as they are hanging out and even eating popcorn and drinking coffee on inside there. you have to think about this. this was a very violent night in chicago. in fact, there were a high number of murders. there were officers in need. there were businesses being looted nearby, and this is what the mayor was pointing towards. in fact, can you hear some of the anger in her voice as she speaks. take a listen. >> you know, it's really quite
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mind-boggling, and it's almost impossible to believe that it's true, but yet we have five hours of videotape documenting what happened. it's one of the most disgraceful, disrespectful things that i've ever seen, and we are absolutely not going to tolerate it. >> reporter: kate, you know something that's very interesting about this. this has caught everyone's eye, but i want to mirror it to something else. there was video last week where there were officers last week when arrested wrong women that they thought were looting and pulled them out of the car by hair. that video didn't spread as fast as this one did. you look at it in how they are trying to clean up this police department. it just shows you how something like this can spark a movement for people calling for a change and wanting a difference inside the police department. >> but, ryan, what can the mayor, what is the mayor or the police commissioner saying about punishing these officers because
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as we often hear that there is now an investigation. >> reporter: yeah. there's an investigation. they actually said to the 13 officers come forward so we don't have to find you. let's also bring something out. there is a new superintendent in town. i think this is like the fifth or sixth one that i've covered since i've been here over the last six years or so, so this is a new superintendent who is just trying to get used to the city. you add the fact that the mayor has been here about a year as the new mayor, and you add covid to all of this, there's a lot of thing for them to sort out, but they say they will put heavy discipline on these officers. they have already suggested for some officers to be fired for other incidents that happened during all the looting and unrest. it's a big mess when it comes to trying to change things. the mayor wants to change how things are handled by the union so they can go after the officers. >> good to see you, ryan. thank you. in minneapolis the city council is meeting right now. they must decide their way
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forward in the wake of the police killing of george floyd, and if the public comments of the council president are any indication, that way forward will include defunding police programs and moving towards dismantling that police department as they call it today. earlier this week we heard from the minneapolis police chief that said the department must be better and must get it right, and he also announced changes he was implementing as well, but he also promised he won't be abandoning the department. cnn's lucy cavanagh is in minneapolis and has been tracking the progress of what's going on with the city council. what's expected to come from the city council today? >> reporter: well, kate, they are meeting right now as we speak. this is basically the beginning of a very looking process to do what some of these council members, the ma the jo of the council, at least nine people of the 12 who are on the council right now have talked about in terms of defunding and disbanding the minneapolis
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police department. today on their agenda they are considering starting that process to effectively eliminate the police department, to replace it with a different agency that will oversee public safety. what that's going to look like though, well, the details are yet to be worked out. they announced that they will be launching a year long effectively investigative process where they will be working with the local community to try to figure out what kinds of practices that they can put in place, what kind of things that they would need to create an alternate agency that would oversee public safety. >> and there's new reporting about the officer who killed george floyd, charged with murder and facing prison time and also new reporting that he could still be receiving his pension. >> reporter: he could still be receiving his pension, not only that, but it could be $1.5 million. this boils down to state laws.
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in some states if you're convict of a felony, you forfeit your pension and that's not the case in minneapolis. chauvin basically stands to earn roughly $50,000 a year for nearly 30 years once he turns 55 years old and over the course of 30 years it's $1.5 million. it's difficult to take away a public officer's union, something that unions have fought for and even if the law changes here in minneapolis and minnesota, he's likely to be sort of grandfathered in so he does stand to earn quite a bit even if convicted in the killing of george floyd. kate. >> thanks so much. great reporting. the only black republican in the senate, senator tim scott, now the government's point man on police reform. what this spotlight means for the senator. ♪ limu emu & doug
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confidential and will not be released. cnn's phil mattingly is joining me right now. phil, thinks billions of taxpayer dollars that by their own admission and design they pushed out the door fast, and now no transparency on who got the money. i am wondering if you are hearing that anyone might have a small problem with this. >> reporter: i think you know the answer to that one. look, the answer is yes. you talk to lawmakers up here. frankly bipartisan lawmakers up here, that they don't even have the details. the government accountability office, kind of one of the key oversight entities, they don't have that level of detail as well, and when you're talking about oversight of a half trillion dollars that have gone out the door and went out the door over a matter of weeks, that's problematic. i think there's two pieces of what i hear right now that raise concerns. the first is for lawmakers who are overseeing this program given the speed with which this was put together. it had a rocky rollout but by all accounts having a very positive effect for many of the 4 million businesses that were able to tap into it, they want
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to know where are the problems here? are there things we can fix? are there things we can change, and if they don't have that level of granular detail there's concerns from some ben cardin, the top democrat on the small business committee, that they can't actually pursue the changes that would make the program more effective. there's also the basic oversight perspective of things. were you back here in the financial crisis trying to cover with the stimulus as well. trying to cover where the money went, who got the money, and when you're pushing that much money out that quickly there are entities that get that money and shouldn't get that money. lawmakers want to know who the companies are and reporters want to know who the companies are. there's reasons why steve mnuchin says they don't want to release the information. i spoke to marco rubio, the top republican on small business committee, largely the father of this program so to speak and laid this out for me. look, you have small businesses who aren't taking out huge loans. these loans are dedicated for payroll, that's proprietary
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information. they don't want ton undercut on the payroll side of things or undercut in terms of how their businesses operate, but they want to figure out a way to figure out how to get out as much information as they can. that's a needle they haven't figured out how to thread yet so at this point in time no information at all in terms of the companies. >> i mean, come on. there is a way to get it right. there's a way to protect the company's proprietary information and to get it right. the number of stories you and i were both tracking down to find out if money was going to the right or wrong cause and reason on recovery.gov in 2010 following the stimulus bill, that was my entire job at one point, and -- but even -- no matter if you thought it was good or bad, you at least had the information and the name and the company and the organization that the money was going to. it's been done. it can be done. this is pretty ridiculous. >> reporter: yeah, and, look, that's one of the issues. there's precedent here and precedent for a similar small
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business program and to be fair the small business administration releases a large amount of information about the types of loans, where they are going, the industries. they are just not getting it at a granular level, and that's what's causing the concern right now given how much money and the stakes here with the economic crisis everybody is dealing with that are kind of laying things out right now. >> thank you for being fair. we can at least try to do that today. good to see you, phil. thank you, man, >> police reform is front and center in the halls of congress as well right now. democrats rolling out their sweeping proposal this week. republicans leaning on one senator in particular to lead the way for their conference, the only black republican in the senate, senator tim scott of south carolina. at a time when the republican party is struggling with how to respond to america's racist past, the southern politician is now front and shert with the challenging task of not only getting democrats and republicans on board with his proposal in congress for police reform but also a republican president who to say the very least has so far denied that
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there is a problem and resisted change. cnn's lauren fox is in washington following all of this. lauren, what are you learning about scott's role in all of this? >> reporter: well, you know, scott is in a challenging position trying to lead on this issue that republicans have struggled with for decades, kate, and, you know, i talked with the senator yesterday. he told me late last week he went to the majority leader and wanted a conversation about some proposals that he had on policing, and he said, you know, this was a time when a lot of republicans was saying publicly that this wasn't something congress needed to delph into. mcconnell held a meeting with the senator as well as a couple of other members and put him in this charge of this effort. here's why majority leader mitch mcconnell told me yesterday that he put him in charge. >> he's one of our strongest members. he's responsible, for example, for economic opportunity zones which were a major feature of the tax reform bill that we passed and the president signed
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into law. he was major player on criminal justice reform, one of our most respected members. >> reporter: and, you know, senator tim scott is not someone who is always in the center of every legislative push, but he was really incremental to tax reform. i asked him yesterday, you know, when do you decide to jump in and lead on an issue? when do you decide to speak out against the president, and he said when no one else is talking and when it's quiet in the senate which is seldom. that's when i speak up. >> quite a moment for him and quite a moment for congress to get this right and get this done. great reporting, lauren. thank you very much. on this very topic we'll jump right over to new york governor andrew cuomo who is expected to be signing legislation into law regarding police reform. >> this goes back to the '90s and the crime bills. looking at the population explosion in our prisons, this was a long time coming, is and
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this is not about a press release that's going to solve it. the way we really solve this is we say to every police agency in this state i believe it should happen in the nation, sit down at the table with the local community, address these issues and get to the root of these issues, get a plan, pass that plan by your local government and if you don't, you're not going to get any additional state funds, period. we're not going to fund police agencies in this state that do not look at what -- look at what has been happening, come to terms with it and reform themselves. we're not going to be as a state government subsidizing improper police tactics. we're not doing it. and this is how we're going to do it. i'm going to sign an executive order today. we'll require a local governments and police departments all across the state, about 500, to develop a
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plan that reinvents and modernizes police strategies and programs in their community. they must formulate a plan. they have to address the use of force by police officers, crowd management, community policing, bias awareness, de-escalation, restorative justice, community-based outreach. they have to have a transparent citizen complaint disposition procedure, so if you make a complaint, it's not just yelling out the window. you find out what happened to that complaint. they should talk about appropriate equipment, what's not appropriate equipment and any other issue that that community believes is relevant. that discussion has to happen with participants in the room. the plan has on the enacted into local law. every city, every county. it has to be done by april 1.
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if it's not done by april 1 and not passed they're not going to be eligible for state funding. period. and look. it is simple. this is something that has to be done anyway. because what we know is certainly true is there is no trust between the community and the police. that's what the protests have said. there's no trust. and if there is no trust the relationship doesn't work. if there's no trust the police can't effectively police. if there's no trust the community is not going to allow the police to police. and there is no trust. or there is a breach of the trust and that has to be restored and repaired. and the only way to do it is to get in a room, get to the table, let everyone say their peace and let's figure it out community by
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community all across this state. it will be statewide. no other state has done it. but new york state will lead the way because new york is new york tough, smart, united, disciplined and loving. with that, let me turn it over to the great senate leader. i thank andrea stewart cousins very much for her leadership. i know we have worked long and hard over this past week. we have been working long and hard for a long time but especially this past week and it turned out great. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> senate leader. >> thank you so much, governor. and thank you for your leadership. i'm certainly so happy to be here at this moment at this historic moment, and to share this with my colleague and partner in the assembly speaker hastey and certainly to be always in the presence of reverend sharpton who, you know,
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is an icon for all of us in this movement as is everybody's mother. so hazel dukes who has been so, so clear in so many ways and obviously in the presence of valerie bell and grant carr. thank you. thank you for being brave and strong. you know, we are at a moment of reckoning. there is no question about it and i am just so thankful that i have a historic role at this moment. i have an opportunity to lead 40 senate democrats who unanimously decided this was the time. many of my colleagues will sit, stand on the floor and certainly colleagues who are younger and they'll talk about the hip hop
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and give verses. for me i remember in 1999 when bruce springsteen, you know, the working class hero, did 41 shots. american skin. when that happened in 1999, i thought that that was the moment where people outside of black and brown communities were finally going to get the message that bad things are happening. and that refrain, you can get killed just for living in your american skin, i thought would ring a note but it didn't. and that was right around amadou diallo, why he did that. and so here we are after the horrific murder of george floyd, we finally got it but every parent, every mother who looks like me understood that scary
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notion with our kids, with our husbands, with our brothers. i got that call when my son, my youngest son was only 18 years old. and he was quote/unquote on the wrong side of the town. he was stopped, frisked. next thing i know down to the police station, the emergency because he's got a fractured nose. thank god i was able to bring him home. i ache for when valerie, i understood that. and i want to be clear. obviously every police officer is not a bad police officer. my brother bobby was a police officer. he was a transit officer. he worked for new york city transit. he went in there because he wanted to help his community.
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he spent about six years there. he was 24. he was a -- he is a marine. vietnam vet. went in to the police department. and came out within six years because he was convinced that the department, that the system was designed so that every young black man would have a record. he knew he was a good cop, he worked with good cops, but he couldn't change that. and he knew the system couldn't change itself. and so, here we are. we know this isn't a cure as the governor said. we know that this is -- this is the beginning but it's a move to bring justice to a system that has long been unjust. and again, i thank you for being partner, for making sure that we take to heart this moment that
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has taken too long to come to and i thank all of the people in the streets and the leadership of the families to make this happen. so thank you, governor. >> thank you. thank you senator leader. you're exactly right. it is good to be part of the solution. and i'm proud of new york and i'm proud of what we have done together. speaker carl hastey, a pleasure to be with you, my friend. >> thank you, governor. let me first thank everyone here for being part of this historic moment. but it's a moment i wish that we never had to deal with. and you know, when i was first elected speaker of the assembly february 23rd, 2015, i said that of all of the great things that i would be a part of and working with did governor and working with leader cousins that nothing
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would mean more to me and i felt my legacy and who i was as speaker of the assembly would mean nothing to me if we didn't make the systemic changes in how communities of color were policed and judged and here we are. so i really want to thank the advocates. we have two of the mothers here and i want to thank all of the mothers who aren't here with us and i want to point one out in particular, constance graham, who's -- constance malcolm, a constituent of mean. i was there with her and with the family the entire time and i was recently asked on an interview why now? why did it happen now? with george floyd as leader cousins said. we thought every time it happened when it was diallo, it
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was time. when it happened with anthony we thought it was time. when it happened with eric garner we thought it was time. when it happened with sean we thought it was time but for some reason i think what people viewed i think it just touched a nerve on every person because it wasn't just people of color issue. it wasn't just the families. i think watching a man being suffocated by strangulation, you know, crying for his deceased mother, i think struck a nerve. for us even in the assembly i actually thought that the bill was going to be democrat versus republican. we have many, many republicans voting for these bills because i think the entire world has just said enough is enough is enough is enough. how many -- how much more
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bloodshed had to be -- had to happen for the conscienceness and t -- consciousness of this nation to open up to say we have to do better and be better? i think that moment has come but it doesn't just end there. you know? there's still many other issues of systemic injustice and systemic racism that people of color have to deal with, whether it's education, health disparities, and these are all things that we have to continue as government to be a part of. government is supposed to be problem solvers. when a society can't fix things, that's what government is supposed to come in and chart that course. and so, this is just a very, you know, it's an emotional day. but i was also asked in one of the interviews, you know, how emotional was i when we actually
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passed the bills. i said i was actually more emotional when my house and andrea's house agreed on the bills because that's when we knew that we were going to be able to get it done. at that tonight it was just the mechanical process of getting the bills passed but when we agreed on the package of legislation that the governor has said that he is going to sign, that's when i was emotional because growing up as a young, black man, there's times that i had not so positive interactions with the police. i've had not so positive interactions with the police as the speaker of the assembly. they didn't know. i never mentioned anything. growing up when you heard the stories of anthony bias and shawn bell and eric garner, i felt that could be me. i think that that is a reason why this is really started to really hit at the hearts of people that like i said enough
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