have this street festival-like situation. there's no strategy as to how or when officers will retake that stati station. >> thank you very much. chris cuomo is taking it over now. >> erin, thank you very. coop is off. won k welcome to an expanded edition of "primetime". while the need for leadership is very great, we may be better off if president trump just stays out of both. he has made people think masks are a sign of weakness, as cases pop up around the country and he has no answer. and now after saying we must pay great care to not call too many people racists, he made this mess of a message about choke

holds. >> i think the concept of choke holds sounds so innocent and so perfect and then you realize if it's a one on one. in it's two on one that's a little bit of a different story depending on the toughness and strength. we're talking there's a physical thing here alsowi. with that being said, it would be a very good thing that generally speaking it should be ended. >> do you know what he's talking about? i have no clue. let's ask jim acosta at the white house. he's obviously riffing there. a choke hold sounds innocent. is there any direction from the white house about where he's trying to go with this? >> not really, chris. the president didn't answer the question. he said in some situations choke holds are, quote, perfect, but in other cases not so much. he feels perhaps they should be banned. he didn't give a definitive answer there.

we've been waiting for a definitive answer on a whole slew of questions about police brutality the last several days. the president hasn't been taking questions from white house reporters. he's taken some from fox news. he is going to give the commencement speech at west point tomorrow, and perhaps he'll have more to say about where he plans to lead the country in the coming days on all of this. chris, they're making some major preparations for this commencement speech tomorrow. told by a senior administration official that the secretary secretary of defense, markes per and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff will not be there. they will leave taped messages for the cadets who are graduating one thing we have not gotten a sense at this point is any clarity on this administration on where the president stands on these police brutality issues. he was speaking to peep ing ti

mega church in dallas last night. he seems to want to continue down this road of dividing the country, pitting one group of americans against another. as you see in all of these polls, chris, there is a ground swell of support for these pro tessepr protesters and the president seems to be pulled along kicking and screaming by the rest of the country in all this. >> that's why he likes seattle. seattle allows him an opportunity to define this as weakness versus strength. this west point address i think is an underrated moment for this president, jim. we all hear what's going on behind you. we know the city down you is alive with people still on the streets calling for change. we get it. >> reporter: yeah. >> the idea of what he'll say is very, very sensitive. the military's been coming after

him. will he take that up with these cadets? the idea of what strength is, when he take that up in a military setting? will he have a message about what's going on? is it written for him? will he go off of it? it could very easily take him in one of two directions and far down the road of making things worse or maybe starting to inch back towards better. >> absolutely, chris. this is a president who has been at odds with military leaders over the last several days. mark milley told graduates he regrets being a part of that photo-op across from the church. this has been more than a street festival behind us for several days. it's not just the chairman of the joint chief of staff. jim mattis wrote that scathing

op-ed, essentially accusing the president of being opposed to american values and democracy and respect for other points of view. this idea that the military should not be involved in domestic politics. that is something that chairman milley mentioned in his address to the graduates and it is of national defense university. so it's unclear as to how the president is going to strike out on all this. one thing we can tell you, chris, a lot is going into this commencement address tomorrow. these cadets will be spaced apart for social distancing, their families aren't going to be there. the faculty and staff aren't going to be there. so a lot of pain has gone into -- a lot of blood, sweat and tears whhas gone into preparing this graduation ceremony tomorrow. all eyes are going to be on the president to see where he decides to take the country moving forward. if past is prolog and the past several days tells us anything, this president is hell bent on

this law and order message, taking the side of the police officers in these protests over the last couple of weeks and showing kind of a tin ear, a tone deafness over the concerns of these pro tessers thtesters over the last couple of weeks. the military is one of the most diverse institutions that you can think of. so you're going to have a diverse audience there listening very closely to what the president has to say, chris. >> recently in a poll the military was seen as the institution that has the best chance of dealing with racial disparities in this country. jim acosta, thank you very. have a great weekend. appreciate the work. we're heading into another weekend. more people will leave their homes. everybody is anxious to get back to life as normal. sure there are guidelines. will they be followed?

koef individu covid numbers are still rising. north carolina, arizona, texas are some of the biggest places. nick watt has the state of play. >> reporter: today in houston they're prepping to reopen not more businesses but maybe the field hospital at the texans nrg stadium. covid-19 hospitalization rates in texas just hit an all-time high. >> i'm growing increasingly concerned that we may be approaching the press cipice of disaster. >> has the united states stalled in the fight against coronavirus? >> i'm not so sure we can say it stalled, but what we're seeing right now is disturbing. >> reporter: counts rising in 19 states. florida's new case count has about doubled since june 1st.

>> you're testing more, you're going to find more cases. >> a small part of it is testing but it truly is a real increase in cases. and part of that is because people are getting too close together without using their masks. >> reporter: orange county california, a scene of crowded sand, just ended its health advisory after the adviser quit. making masks mappndatory on apr 15th saved thousands of infections. and the president is asking everyone at next week's maga rally in tulsa to sign a waiver saying they won't sue if they catch covid-19. >> please wear a mask all the tile. a mask will give you some

protecti protection. the best thing to do is to avoid crowded areas. but if you're not going to do that, please wear a mask. >> our thanks to nick watt for the reporting. can you imagine having people sign a release to protect yourself from any liability, for inviting them to a place that is going to be unsafe inherently and you don't even push masks. why doesn't the president treat us and our interests the way he treats his own? he protects people and makes sure they are tested. now that takes us to another point of focus in this country -- seattle. trump says the left has run amuck and is thweattiweeting ab

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all right. now, seattle has become largely a matter of perspective. is this a largely peaceful takeover, a part of the city? can you have a peaceful takeover? or do you have an occupation? now we hear that the protesters are negotiating with officials should they have the leverage to negotiate in a city where they are not supposed to have any control? there's a map of this new so-called area. they're calling it chaz. the capitol hill autonomous zone. takes up several city blocks. people were pushed out -- police were pushed out of the area on monday. here's a live look. look, if you look at it, you know, it's not an angry protest, it's not really organized but it is completely occupied. i interviewed seattle's mayor yesterday. she made a reference to the 1967

summer of love. she got some love for that and some critics, including the president saying this is anarchy and officials need to shut it down. mayor jenny durkin returns tonight. miss mayor, thank you very much for taking the opportunity. what can you tell us about the state of play? >> chris, thanks for having me back. first, i want to assure the president that seattle is fine. i'm not sure what he's so afraid of and what he's depicting to the nation just isn't true. i spent time in the area today talking to people, listening to their concerns, talking about what brought them there, what they want to see for our city and for community. i don't know why the president is so afraid of democracy. free speech is part of who we are. it's how we started as a nation. we will be fine in seattle. we don't need the president's help. >> the president is saying, yes, there's hyperbole in there, it's

the left run amuck and all that. yet you do have reality on your hands. you have negotiations between the people who are there and police. they seem to feel that they have a sense of domain where they are. they are in control of that area so that you can't have normal traffic, you don't have normal life there. you have your police chief saying she didn't want to leave the precinct, that the city caved to pressure. that doesn't sound great either, does it? >> so play space protests are nothing new in seattle or across america. you saw occupy take part of wall street for almost eight months in new york and the city managed to survive. i think what we really have to do is it's the old saying of we're given one mouth but two ears. it's time toless wre lesisten. what's happening in america right now is so significant. and we as leaders have to listen and determine what changes can we bring to bring us to a better country and better cities? my job as mayor is to move

forward in a way that really pays attention to the very legitimate pain and rage in the streets about centuries of systemic racism and communities being held back. if we miss this opportunity, our nation will miss an opportunity. and so i'm not afraid to listen to people. i'm not afraid to hear what they want and to see if we as a city can address that very real pain. >> negotiations. what are the state of negotiations? what are they asking for? what do you like? what do you not like? >> so we've had -- i've met with many community groups over the last two weeks. there's a range of demands and desires by people, which everything from how we do policing, that we've met some of them already, to how do we really do the thing people want the most and that is invest in community. invest in their children. invest in opportunity and making sure that our schools, our health care systems, our equity

and economy are built for everybody. because if you look across all of our systems, people of color, and particularly black americans, have been left behind in every one of them. that doesn't happen by mistake. it happens because of how the structures are built. and so when i listen to people, mostly what i hear is their desire to see the true opportunity and equity be made real in all of those systems that we as a society invest in those systems greater than we've already invested in the criminal justice system. and i think that's the right path forward. >> i think the linking thought to what's going to bring about a new culture wave of change will be that, yes, of course color and systemic racism is a reality but that the need and the spread of opportunity is more have/have not than it is just color. color absolutely. race is an identifiable and intrinsic part of inequality in this society. but it goes beyond that. i think if you can get that out

of these streets that it color and, race and, and that there is a list of needs for society, i think you have the best chance of seeing changes from power. one last thing while i have you. the idea of what you'll give on and what you won't, the idea of removing police from community, making that building something else, will the police return there to work or is that building going to become something else? >> the chief of police was there yesterday. they've had some people in there. we're going to continue to analyze whether that's the best place for the police to operate, whether there's a digsal things. really what i hear from people when i listen to them is, first i've got to listen. and the harder it is for me to listen, the more important it is that i be sitting and listening. the second is i think dave schappel said it very well. this movement came from the streets. it didn't come from politicians. it didn't come from elected

leaders. and we've got to in some ways get out of the way and to listen to the streets. bus those kind of movements are what has moved america forward through its whole existence. i think we've got to do that. if we miss this opportunity, i would say shame on all of us. >> there we've never had any meaningful change that hasn't started at the grass roots, the street, the people, the populist level. i think that's always been true. we'll see where it goes here. you certainly have a lot of people watching, mayor durkin. and you'll continue to have this platform to address the situation. >> thank you very much. take care. >> good luck this weekend. >> in seattle, a lot of people there, a lot of people wearing masks. but they're in close contact. it has to be part of the pandemic situation. but the highest number of cases

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in a country that is desperate for leadership, especially on the federal level, at least we still got fauci. dr. anthony fauci, one of the top doctors on the white house coronavirus task force, he can be believed. he can be trusted. he has not led us astray. he is warning don't rush the

reopening process. coronavirus cases have increased in 19 states. remember, this is during the summer. we thought we might get a break. but the reopening was always imagined to be very deliberate. it hasn't been. some areas are actually seeing record highs in the number of new cases. the cdc now warns the u.s. could suffer 130,000 deaths in all by the 4th of july. still dr. fauci says this doesn't mean the fight against covid has stalled. >> i'm not so sure we can say it's stalled, but what we're seeing right now is something obviously that's disturbing. we all do want to reopen the country for a number of important reasons, but we've got to do that in a way that's careful and prudent. >> let's bring in dr. william shafter back for us tonight. first of all, do you agree with

fauci? >> pretty much, but it looks stalled to me. the accelerator is on in a number of different places. this covid virus hasn't taken a vacation. it's up and out because people are opening up too quickly and they're being a bit carefree about it. they're not wearing their masks. wear the masks when you leave your front door. >> masks are a weakness. massks are a hoax. you don't need a mask. quarantining made it worse. that's what we're hearing from the president and state news. >> masks are strength. they show knowledge. they show respect for others. others wears mask shows respect for you. it was what was effective in flat i don't kntening the curve. masks, social distancing,

staying away from large gatherings, those are the elements. ignore those and the hospital emergency rooms will fill up. >> i think fauci's context for stalling is about his efforts and what they're trying to do to find a vaccine. they don't control the states. and you're sitting in proof of that right now. you're in tennessee, nashville, as it says for everybody in the top right-hand corner of their screen. they've had to slow it down in tennessee, which is actually a pretty mature thing to do, not easy to do politically to slow people down once they have expectations. oregon, same thing. why? >> well, we're slowing things down because we're concerned about cases go up. and when you do that, we slow things down, remind people about how to behave and we can tamp down the increase again. we can keep that curve flat. the covid virus is going to be with us we're working on

vaccines, we're working on treatments, but in the meantime we have to work on reducing transmission, the way the covid virus gets to one person or another. let's not go out into large crowds. let's be restrained, wear those masks and be prudent. >> doc, help me with this one. we talk about the anticipation or expectation of a second wave but i don't see the first one is ending. if cases are still going up in all these different places, it seems like a real wave. are we're really going to have a second wave or is this thing just going to keep going? if so, what is your outside limit guess as to how long we're dealing with this? >> well, we're dealing with this for the immediate future, for months in advance. this is the end of the first wave. it's smoldering along and now it starting to increase again. the big second wave that we're concerned about will come this

fall when flu starts and also covid starts. then they'll both start to increase. then we'll really be in it up to our necks, i'm afraid. >> if the first wave is starting to mellow, then why do we see so many highest cases ever popping up around the country? >> it's in part because we're testing more, that's for sure. the more you look, the more you find. but covid now is leaving metropolitan areas. it's beginning to sneak out into more rural areas where there are many people who really didn't believe in covid because it wasn't around them. they weren't wearing masks, they didn't do social distancing, they didn't stay at home nearly the way we did in cities. and now it's beginning to surprise those folks as it gets out into the less densely populated parts of the country. >> hospitalization rates, that's what we have to keep our eye on.

a lot of opportunists will use testing as an execution. we see that with desantis in florida. his state matters. it mattered early on. it's going to be big come election time. he says it's just about testing. testing in florida rose and then dropped and now is rising again. it's not just testing influencing an increase in the numbers. it's spread of illness. >> absolutely. and watch those hospitalizations. we've been able to test people going to the hospital for a long time so that's a very solid metric. if you were sick, you went to the hospital for the most part. now we can see in different parts of the country hospitalizations, along with cases, are rising. and that's really what we have to be concerned about. we don't want another surge on our health care system that's difficult to manage. we've been through that, right? so we want to keep things

flattened down. if we can reduce the rate of transmission, then of course there are fewer very sick people who have to come to the emergency room and be admitted to the hospital. >> and to the extent that new york has become a little bit of a through the looking glass moment here, the up side of it has been it's been pretty tight here in terms of what they'd let us do and when they'd let us do it but it's given people confidence that the measures work. i'm actually seeing more masks, not less, than i did a couple of weeks ago. one, there's a little bit of a shame dynamic. i give you that look if you don't have the mask on. it's weird for me because i have the antibodies because i've been sick. i still get a fishing mask, i can pull up over my face when i get that look. hopefully that culture catches on. dr. schaffner, thanks for making us a little smarter and a little

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the family of sterling higgins is suing, alleging officers used excessive force and delayed medical care following a struggle that was captured on video. i'm asked to warn you this video is disturbing. now, i personally believe you need to watch the reality. it should make you uncomfortable. we have been too comfortable with too many bad things happening for too long. our senior investigative correspondent drew griffin with this story. >> reporter: sterling higgins appeared high, hallucinating and paranoid last march when police arrested him for trespassing. it's what happened next to the

37-year-old that has resulted in yet another claim a black man was killed in custody as cameras rolled. >> it shows the officer's hands grasping around mr. higgins' neck and throat and shows me higgins stopping al movement while the officer has his hand in the area of his throat. >> reporter: seattle is suing the county and the officers involved on behalf of higgins' estate, accusing jailers of excessive use of force, failing to provide medical care and causing husband deatis death. the jail house video show minute by minute higgins' death and here in close-up video enhanced by the attorney to zoom in on one of the jailers gripping higgins' face and neck.

in a handwritten report the jailer says higgins was spitting and he put his hand under his chin. >> if in fact mr. higgins was alleged to be spitting it doesn't explain with an officer would keep his hand around his neck area for two minutes after the person stopped moving. >> reporter: he applies shackles as the officer holding higgins neck stays in place. his body goes limb. yet the hand around his neck and face remain for two more minutes. the officer finally remove his hand. it's been sick minutes. the jailers do not call for medical help. instead they drag his limp body on to a restraint chair and

wheel him down the hall. >> why they would put a limp body into a chair is beyond my comprehension. >> one minute before medical staff arrive, the officers remove his restraints. the emt finds no pulse, no breath, apply cpr but it's too late. their report says the symptom is death. they called it delirium due to methamphetamine toxicity. >> do i think that the officers handled this situation properly? no, i don't. i do not believe beyond a reasonable doubt that any of those officers were guilty of a crime. >> reporter: district attorney general tommy thomas says he understands some won't agree with his decision not to charge

the officers. he said he presented the case to the grand jury as he always does when law enforcement was involved but never showed the grand jurors the video. >> the bottom line is this, it would have taken a couple of hours to show the video to the grand jury, and i had already decided that this case was not a proper case for indictment. >> reporter: the grand jury agreed with the d.a.'s recommendation to not press charges. thomas says because the burden of proof is lower in civil courts, he advised higgins' family to get a lawyer and sue. chris, the civil attorney is incredulous that in the criminal case the grand jury never saw these tapes. they are vowing to hire autopsy experts to overlook the autopsy and these videotapes and if this gets to a trial and a jury in federal court, to make sure that those jurors see exactly how sterling higgins died. chris? >> drew griffin, thank you very

much for the reporting. you're right, the video is a very big boost in terms of making a jury or anyone aware of the details of the situation. thank you for the reporting. as always, have a good weekend. again, now that you've watched that video, in context, think about what your president said. choke holds, you know, when you say it it sounds so perfect, so innocent. amazin amazing. systemic racism in america is real. we should not be debating that. the debate is how do you make it go away? how does change come and from where? from whom? a microdive on somebody who looked exactly at this and has answers next.

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dealing with it, right? what's happening in the streets is real. you can't ignore it. your president is trying to ignore it but you can't ignore it. you can't blame it on one political party. you can't blame it just on anarchists. you can blame a lot of looting and the violence on anarchists and extremists and insurgents and opportunists. but not the reality. the are the belongs to all of us. never in modern history have we seen this much agreement on racism in america. says how? the monmouth poll, latest, 76% of you. 71% of white people calling racism and discrimination a big problem. it's a 26-point jump since 2015. so this is important right now. this may not be like other times. it's hard for me to trust it. i've been here before. but it has never been the goal

for just the minority. it has to be the majority. how do we know? people who have studied it and lived it like mitch andrew. he's also been leading a group that examines just how deep racism is built into our system. mitch, thanks for helping me out, brother. the idea of hearing cuddkudlow, educated guy from the big city say there's no such thing as systemic racism. your response? >> he must not leave his house. that's hard to hear from somebody who speaks on behalf the president of the united states. by the way, he's just wrong. four of us traveled across the south. we went to 33 different counties, through 13 states. we talked to over 800 people, white folks, black folks, brown folks, old, young, rural, asking

them, tell me about race, what do you think about race, how do you feel about it? what impact does it have on you? there is common ground in this country but it was clear that white folks and african-americans think a lot differently about it. you spoke about it last night. when you went through for the american public what the institution of racism is. but in the people who responded to our request to be interview, it is clear that white people in america don't have a real understanding or don't really believe that racism is institutionalized, and when they hear it, they don't takeparticuy understand what it is. they think we're calling every white person in america racist and it's the act opposite. it's bias when applied have an impact on african-americans. african-americans understand clearly what racism is. those numbers have started to

move and it's clear that white people have started to hear things and walked by before that they never noticed. that's why we're at a moment that if we take advantage of it, we can make some headway. >> no question this president plays on being called a racist to keep people at a distance. we're not going to solve this by calling millions of good people a racist and a bigot. nobody is going to do that but he is, as opposed to how do we get to a better place. so what did you learn about what the aspects are of getting to a better place? >> well, the american people as we say down south might have been born at night but we weren't born last you saw this in 1972 with the southern strategy. convincing people on the same economic situation that they somehow should hate each other. and, of course, that's not true,

you know, you preach about this every night that our diversity is a strength, not a weakness. this is not how transparent trump is being. we know what it looks like, what it feels like, and you're watching history move past the president of the united states and shame on him for allowing it to happen. what we found out when we talked to people. this is interesting, most everyone we talked to, white folks and black folks, had a great sense of where they lived, how proud they were of the city, the neighborhood they lived in. things that kbrout them together. sports, music. culture, art. when you start talking about, what neighborhood do you really live in? do you live on this side of the tracks, that side of the tracks? do you feel like the schools your kids go to give everyone an equal opportunity? or if you mention white privilege to a white person, they adamantly rejected the notion that they goat the benefit of the doubt because they were white.

you got the exact opposite answer from african-americans. almost everyone thought the notion of equality was good, it was a goal we should reach for, but it was out of our reach. and, of course, the killing of george floyd has changed everything, almost every african-american in the country saw their face in george floyd's face and they saw the knee of america on their necks and it all came rushing in. and now the whole world is watching, you can't turn away from it, and you have to run into this moment. >> and you can't let george floyd be seen as a one off either, there are too many people who get the convenience of saying, this is really bad. and they should prosecute it. i don't understand what you're angry about, they're going to prosecute this one. it's this disuntilation of an idea you dealt with. we have to get past the idea that if something happens that's good for the minority it's somehow bad for the majority. and especially when they're on

the same economic level, no, i have it hard already. you're asking me to do more for people that have it just the same as i do. how do we get past that? >> the biggest myth is perpetuated on the people of america, somehow they don't look like them they're going to take something from them as opposed to add something to that. we know that's not true. there's a reason why we say diversity is a strength. think about this, after the civil war, 4 million human beings were forced to leave the south and find refuge some place else. they added value, intellectual capitol, became doctors, lawyers, musicians, all of that great generation of new product went outside the south. how could you possibly be better if all of your players are not on the field.

everything that african-americans have begun too participate in have always performed well, and we all lift up, because the economy's better when everybody has an opportunity. we have a huge race to make ourselves afraid of other people who look different from us. it's just a myth, it always has been, and it's one of those things we have to stand up. the simple idea that's facing the country right now. do you believe that diversity is a strength. do you think that everybody is equal? do you think we should share opportunity and responsibility? or do you believe some of us are better than others? trump is on one side. which is much more important than him. you've known him his whole life. his completely captured the republican party. that party that used to exist before he got there is no more. it's unfortunately becoming a narrow small, more white -- and i think it is a mistake, and i think many people in america are beginning to understand this

notion that somehow they've been duped into thinking that if african-americans do well, they're going to do poorly. we know that's not true. >> what's the next thing that needs to happen for us to move in the right direction? >> in front of us right now is the criminal justice system. what's going on in the criminal justice system as you said last night is endemic in health care, as you can see clearly from covid-19. it's the same thing with the voting system, it's the same thing with the education system, we have to commit ourselves that we are going to march forward every day and begin to peel apart these institutional biases, so we can get everybody a fair shot, so all of us can do better. >> you are the man, thank you for reaching out to me on this, and helping us continue the conversation. the plate behind you says everything. out of many is one. that's us. thanks, brother be well, have a great weekend. >> thank you. in three weeks, there could be another 16,000 covid deaths.

when i say 16,000, does it get you? does that number get you? that's the new projection. and it should get you, because by percentage, it's a scary rate of increase. i don't think it's working for us any more. i think the numbers are starting to make you glaze over, we all want our reality back as we understood it. we have to figure something out for ourselves. we're not going back to what it was before. not for a long time. let's talk about what is going to happen and where we'll make it better or worse. we've got somebody who's been studying the trends very closely. let's take it up next.

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i hope you're having a good friday night so far. it's not easy, where we are in america right now. i'm chris cuomo, let me help you get into the weekend. we have to talk about what matters right now. and coronavirus is exploding. that's not to hype, look at the states on your map. i don't want the numbers to go up, i want them to go down. we all want them to reopen. the way it's being done is different in different places. and we're seeing that reflect different caseloads. things are getting worse in at least 19 states. the cdc predicts 130,000 will be dead by july 4th. independence day. we all want to be free again, but we are in a pandemic,