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george floyd in minneapolis. these are some of the major rallies against police brutality we've been seeing across the country. while a newly released autopsy show brooks was shot twice in the back. according to the district attorney, the first thing after shooting brooks was, i got him. he has cynic been fired. the district attorney said he's now weighing murder charges. >> i believe in this instance, what we have to choose between, if there is a choice to be made, is between murder and felony murder. i can tell you definitely that probably sometime around wednesday, we will be making a decision in this case. >> the deadly encounter between rayshard brooks and the officers are captured on body cam and we're getting a clearer picture of the moments leading up to the
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shooting. here's the report from the scene. >> large crowds of people here where rayshard brooks was shot and killed friday night. many of them prettying. what is captured on camera of the incident paints a complicated picture. brooks joking with police officers, engaging in light conversation. in one fell swoom, everything changes. we should warn you, this video is graphic and difficult to watch. >> responding to all, can officer brosnan aapproaches the car. >> hey! hey! you're parked in the line here.
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hey! sir! what's up, man! you're parked in the drive-through right now. are you all right? >> asleep in the drive-through lane, police body cam footage shows the 27-year-old does not respond right away. >> are you tired? all right, man. i'll move my car. just pull somewhere. all right. >> are you good? brooks eventually wakes up and agrees to move his car before he appears to fall asleep again. >> you have to move your car. >> brooks moves to a nearby parking spot where brosnan asks -- >> how much did you drink tonight? not much? how much is not much? you say one kind of drink. what drink was it?
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>> a margarita. >> any drugs today? >> i don't do drugs. >> brooks struggles to final his license and tries to step out of the car. >> just stay in the car. >> he asks for another officer to conduct a dui test. >> pretty adamant. definitely got some liquor on him right now. >> when the officer arrives, brooks denies having he said about asleep. >> the reason we're here is because somebody called 911 because you were asleep behind the wheel while in the drive-through. do you recall that? >> i don't. >> you don't recall that? you don't recall minutes ago where you were passed out behind the wheel? >> huh-uh. >> he agrees to a breathalyzer test. he said he can't remember how many he had to drink and then he tells police -- >> i know, i know. >> when he tries to handcuff brooks, he resists. witness video shows brosnan
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readying his taser. brooks grabs it out of his hand. breaking free, he punches him. he fires his stun gun as brooks takes off. here's the moment the altercation becomes deadly. we slow it down for you. you can see rolf chasing brooks. each man carrying a taser. watch as he moves his taser from his right hand to his left and reaches toward his handgun. that's when brooks turns and fires the taser and rolf shoots, firing three times at brooks as he flees. bystanders almost immediately begin -- >> your careers are done. you shot at me for no reason. >> a few minutes after he's shot, the officers begin to provide medical treatment.
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he was taken to the hospital and later pro announced dead. one officer was terminated. the other is placed on administrative duty and erica shields, the chief of police in atlanta, resigned over the weekend. of course there's an ongoing investigation. potentially with charges coming this week. cnn. >> our next guest is the former president of the police foundation. the former police chief joins me from redlands in california. thanks for doing so. >> i'm curious, your take. it seems that there were choices made. what is your evaluation? he fired the moment the suspect's back is turned. >> i think this video shows how
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quickly what is starting out as a very casual and a very cordial inaction between mr. brooks and the office e the officers can go just off the rails. they are talking to him and eventually decide to place him under arrest. one thing i thought was surprising, in the video i've seen, they did not tell him he was under arrest. they grablds him and told him to put his hands behind his back. it sounds like he was drinking. that may have startled him. then he took off. the decision for the officers to use their weapons will be framed around whether it was necessary and reasonable and whether the force that they used was proportion al. >> one imagines, you have to be fearing for your own life and it didn't appear his life was
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threatened. he died after falling asleep at his car at a wendy's. do you feel charges are appropriate given what you've seen? if so, what sort of charges? >> i haven't seen enough of this but apparently the autopsy indicated he was shot in the back. so again, whether this was necessary, whether it was reasonable and proportion al, if mr. brooks is running away from the officers, and he is not present going, treatmenting an immediate threat. it is to prove whether they thought they had a reasonable fear for their life. when you look temperature, you have to ask yourself a couple questions. obviously the things mr. brooks did were not right. he stole the gun from the officers. that's probably a felony. they knew where he was, if they had to, they could let him go
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and get him later on. the officers will have their side of the story and tender a defense. >> i think it will come back to whether the officer's life was at threat. it is pretty hard to argue that when the suspect is running away. this is all being part of the discussion about reform. what sort of reform would help? what sort of de-escalation and treatment of the suspect? >> so if you go back to the very beginning of this incident, it looks to me like they're probably arresting him for drunk driving. so one of the questions might be, first you have to tell him. that's part of the de-escalation. what it is i'm about to do. when you put your hands on somebody and you don't tell them why you're doing that, especially if they've been drinking, they're going to panic so that's part of the problem. the other problem is, in this discussion about how we resolve low, lower grade criminal
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offenses, there are going to be some people who say why couldn't they have given him a ride home? he was not causing them any problems. he was cooperating, very polite to them. and i think even suggested if they give him a ride home or he could go a few blocks and go home. of course there will be other people, especially those who have loved one of drunk drivers who will take a very different stance on that. >> very quickly, a lot of talk about defunding at the moment, and of course, the notion of abolishing departments is not really about it. it is about social services that could deal with some issues police currently handle. what do you think of that? there are situations, maybe this isn't the one, where police don't want to handle it. >> i'm not sure this is one of those situations but every cop i can, this would have been my opinion when i was still a police officer, that cops don't
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volunteer for that. society has decide that had they're the first responders in those situations. i think police chiefs across the country will be very supportive of this idea of shifting this responsibility to other first responders that have better training or better able to handle that situation. they don't want to do this. it is who we have decided as a society will be the first responders and now is the time for to us change that. >> i think you hit the nail on the head. his sister lived a couple blocks away. really appreciate it. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. the powerful picture of a black protester carrying a white man to safety is going viral. this all happens during clashes on saturday between black lives matter demonstrators and far right groups in london. patrick huxinson said he picked the man up after noticing he was injured, and carried him to police nearby to keep him safe. more on this pretty
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unforgettable image. at london's waterloo station where these clashes broke out saturday. it is an amazing image. tell us more about the man and his motives. >> reporter: that's exactly right. and those steps just behind me there is where this whole scene unfolded. there were right wing demonstrators of the black lives matter movement. the movement had canceled for the weekend but patrick hutchinson said he knew there would be young supporters of the movement that would come out. that they could potentially get into trouble and he wanted to act as a peace keeper. >> can you describe to me what's happening in this picture? >> my friends and i are putting a cord around this man. he was on the stairs. lying in a fetal position.
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anything was about to happen to him. the first thing was to pick him up. >> you could have looked at this ma'am and thought, he is my enemy. why did you choose to help him? >> there was a particular thought i had that you know, you have to show some sort of, you know, love for your fellow man, okay? regardless. i was saying, if the other three officers that were present when george floyd was unfortunately murdered, if they just one of them had stepped in and stopped their fellow officer from doing what he did, he would be alive today. >> and you put him on your shoulder. you carried him to the police. then what happened? >> i'm carrying him. my friends are protecting me and the man on my shoulder. he was still receiving blows. you could feel people trying to hit him. carried him over to the police. and i said, here you are.
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and up with of the police officers said thank you. you did a good thing there, man. >> what do you want people to take away when they look at that picture? >> hopefully they'll take away, breaking down the race barriers and realizing, we're all one people. we're all one race. >> this is what is so extraordinary. it doesn't have one address. not one leader. it is not a mono lith. it is how you interim rhett the idea. for patrick, it men coming out on saturday even though he'd never attended any of the demonstrations. coming out on saturday trying to keep the peace between these two viciously opposed groups and helping a man who could have potentially held prejudices against him, although he did not know who that man was and he remains under identified. his home is that yes, he acted on instinct but there is a
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message. everyone is equal, everyone is human. he homes that man who was rescued my see that picture and think that way as well. >> it would be interesting to see the other man's reaction. indeed. thank you for that. fascinating. all right. we'll take a quick break. health officials around the world agree. face masks are the most effective way to prevent the spread of covid-19. why are so many people reluctant to wear them? elp. hey lily, i'm hearing a lot about 5g. should i be getting excited? depends. are you gonna want faster speeds? i will. more reliability? oh, also yes. better response times? definitely. are you gonna be making sourdough bread? oh, is that 5g related? no, just like why is everyone making sourdough now... but yes, you're gonna want 5g. at&t is building 5g on america's best network. visit att.com to learn more.
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reopen. the governor warning the process can be rolled back if there are too many violations of the reopening policy. he and other officials are still urging americans to wear masks as well. now, on twitter the surgeon gentle said wearing masks could reduce a systematic spread of the virus. joining me now, professor from texas a & m university. the professor led a team of researchers who had a study on face masks. it does show wearing masks is the most effective way to prevent infections. let's talk more about this study with the professor. yeah, this study was fascinating. it found that masks alone prevented more than 78,000 infections in italy over a brief period of time. more than 66,000 infections in new york city. the bottom line is they work.
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there are many different rules around the u.s. do you think wearing them should be mandatory? >> yes. what we're looking at here, we look directly into the data, the trend of the pandemic. so we're looking three places. so the first place is china, the second place is italy. the third place is new york city. so what we're looking at here, we're looking to how the cases, how the curve goes. like in china, they have almost simultaneous incrementation of different measures so it is very difficult to see. in other places like italy and new york city, what they did is at first, like in italy, they lock down the city. so after that, they saw it going up and started implementing face covering. and finally, like in new york
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city. the mandate face covering, basically, what you look at here, look at the cases. how the curve change, how the curve becomes flattening. what we see in italy, and also new york city, the curve really start to bend and when face mask was implemented. >> so they work. it's a bit of a no brainer in a way. there is a lot of resistance to it. particularly in the u.s. why do you think westerners are resistant to wearing them? >> that's a very interesting question. if i consider most countries in asia, like china, japan, and
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south korea, and i think they have the tradition. one of the problems there is that the air, like china with enormous problems with air pollution. everybody knows putting on face mask will protect yourself. so people are sort of used to those practices. somehow in the u.s., we are just used to blue skies and the people don't feel comfortable putting on the face masks. >> and you're a scientist. but there is a political aspect of this. there has been mixed messaging from leaders. the new york governor man dating masks. the surgery gentle strongly advising their use. you have the president and the administration in general pretty. actively avoiding them. there is a photograph that was tweeted by the vice president of him in front of dozens of staff members, no spacing, no masks.
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i'm curious as someone who has seen the effectiveness of them. what is the risk of that sort of messaging from the top? >> i find it very hard to understand this situation. but as a scientist i believe the disease is preventible by taking some important procedures. to me, i think you will greatly reduce the chance that you're going to contract the virus if you put on a face mask, and then you practice good hand hygiene as well as practicing social distancing. so i simply do not understand why people are so resistant. >> one final question. there is going to be a big political rally next week.
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20,000 or more people in an auditorium. would you go to that? >> i would not go to there. i think i think very unsafe unless everybody is putting on a face mask. >> a really interesting study. i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> president emmanuel macron announced the easing of more restrictions, and he also briefly touched on the recent anti-racism protest. here's more from paris. >> reporter: in his address to the nation, the french president announced the end of the initial phase of the coronavirus. he significantly accelerated the reopening of the country.
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cafes in paris can now fully. a week from now all students except high schoolers will have to go back to class. local plekss will draw millions of voters across the country will go ahead later this month. importantly travel restrictions also lifted. starting monday, french nationals can travel to other european countries and they will be able to travel outside europe starting july 1st. while the president warned that they may need to prepare for a second wave of the coronavirus, his focus is on rebuilding the economy. and mr. macron acknowledged racism and police violence. he admitted that france has not done a good enough job ensuring equal opportunity to all regardless of the color of their skin and he promised under specified new measures to fight racism. he was adamant that france would not be taking down any statues or erasing any names from its
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protests against police brutality. an officer killed a black man on friday in atlanta. the atlanta mayor vowing that america will get to the other side of this. the medical examiner said rayshard brooks died from two gunshot wounds to the back which caused organ damage and blood loss. the district attorney considering felony murder against the officer who shot him. other charges expected by wednesday. the officer was fired. the atlanta police chief, too, has resigned. the weeks of unrest began after police killed george floyd, an unarmed black man killed by police in minneapolis, minnesota. now the city is considering how to reform or transform the police department. there are already some changes underway.
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>> officers are resigning. more than a dozen more could be in the process of leaving the police department. we're told there are seven separations as of memorial day. that does not include the four officers involved in the killing of george floyd. former officers at this point. as for why they're leaving, the information is not public. a police department spokesman saying people seek to leave employment for a myriad of reasons. the minneapolis police department is no exception. this comes as the department is facing pressure here within the state as well as nationwide to change the practices. they are under a human rights investigation. there are growing calls to defund and even abolish the minneapolis police department, the city council taking the first step in that direction on friday launching a year long process to look into options that would be an alternative to
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policing. we are hearing from police officers themselves. since the killing of george floyd last week, an open letter signed by 14 police sergeants and lieutenants condemned the killing. it accused derek chauchbl failing as a human by stripping floyd of his dignity and humanity. they wrote, this is not who we are. one source telling cnn, this sends a strong message. cnn, minneapolis. there is a giant murl of the words black lives matter along an entire block in the capitol hill neighborhood. dan sim only filed this report from what they are calling an ought only must zone. >> it is a beautiful and sunny afternoon in seattle. that has pushed the crowds to a level i don't think we've seen throughout this occupation.
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you can see all the people down there. it is this festival setting where you have barbecues and live music and different speakers on the stage. behind me you can see some native-americans with a teepee there. when officers vacated early last week, it did have the desired effect. it did de-escalate the pension between protesters and police. the question now is, when might officers get back into that station? the police chief was asked about that today. >> i wish i had the answer to how long it might last. i can tell you, we want to move it forward as quickly and efficiently as possible. my concern as a police chief besides that i want to be back in the precinct doing the work, we don't want anyone there to be harmed. we don't want this to be something that devolves into a force situation. we're really trying to take a
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methodical, practical approach to reach a resolution where everyone gets out of here safely. >> the chief has a valid concern. she said because officers are not in that station, it is taking triple the amount of time to respond to calls in the area. of course, she would like the on get the officers back in there as soon as possible. there seems to be no plan or strategy for that to happen. dan simon. cnn, seattle. beijing is reporting 79 new cases of the virus after a breakout of what is considered to be the large effort food market in asia. china's capital had gone 56 days without seeing any new cases. now 11 neighborhoods are on lockdown and every medical patient with a fever will be tested for covid-19. a governor expert saying beijing will not turn into a second wuhan. with increasing fears of a second wave of coronavirus in
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the u.s., there is a consideration for a stimulus package of $2 trillion. the focus will be on reviving american manufacturing. democrats have been pushing for another stimulus package but republicans are cautious, especially after the surprise drop in unemployment recently. meanwhile wall street futures all in the red. deeply so. the sell-off seems to be accelerating. what are you seeing? >> yes. a voracious sell-off. you have the story coming out of beijing. there are real concerns that the number one and number two economies will face it. after the cases rising and the united states ditto basically.
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let's look at the asia sell-off which is quite severe. we've seen it. the nikkei index in japan better than 3.5%. shanghai has been stable but we saw industrial outputt, the numbers disappoint. the other thing, as we bring up u.s. futures, the nasdaq crossed 10,000. we see losses of better than 3%. there is also concern about the long material. we had the jobs added in may but if you look at the jobless claims, better than 44 million, it represents about a quarter of the population. it really depends how fast in this reopening up and the snap back, what influence it will have in the hiring the rest of the year. how many of those jobs will come back and how many won't?
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the u.s. was against a bailout plan and now it is pushing a pretty big one. >> we're looking at $2 trillion plus. the trade adviser. they're trying to get u.s. companies to onshore, i.e., come back to the united states. bits the supply chains and the overdependency on friday. but as to why do you need more stimulus? what are you seeing? and then on the other side of the fence, in the same white house, larry kudlow saying we're on the mend. look at the job being add to the economy. >> you've got new business applications, skyrocketing and small businesses about, 80% reopening. so this is all positive news coming off the pandemic. we are in the recovery stage.
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>> that's somewhat of a sneaky may here. the pay roll tax cut that the white house is trying to push in. this has been a trump priority and it is something they would like in the second stimulus package even though mitch mcconnell is suggesting something north of $2 trillion. he wants something about half that size. >> thank you. >> thank you. critics say it is a verdict that threatens press freedoms everywhere. coming up, a philippine court rules in the case against an award winning journalist. we'll have that when we come back. ! your dry skin! i'm craving something we're missing. the ceramides in cerave. they help restore my natural barrier, so i can lock in moisture. we've got to have each other's backs... cerave. now the #1 dermatologist recommended skincare brand. than rheumatoid arthritis or psoriatic arthritis. when considering another treatment,
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cyber libel. the site has produced senate intelligencive coverage of the president and his deadly war on drugs. >> it is good to see you, my friend. i will call you my friend. in many ways, considering how the governor has treated you, it is not surprising. where do you go from here? do you think you've gotten any chance on appeal? >> well, first, thank you so much for having me. yes, today i was convicted. but i don't think, we weren't the only ones on trial. i think today also, the philippine justice system was on trial, as you pointed out. i've been under attack by my own government since 2016. and we were targeted by authorities after the that,
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first in 2016 for these attacks on social media. today the judiciary just became complicit in this insidious campaign. it is death by a thousand cuts. you know who i will. you know the work that we do. i think part of the reason we will come out of this stronger is that we know there are deliberate efforts to stifle press freedom. >> and yeah. i am hard pressed to find a more honorable journalist. you've been targeted by this government at least 11 times. what sort of warning does what's happening to the media in other countries run by populist leaders, not to mention in the u.s. where the president calls the media the enemy of the people. >> when the president did that to cnn and "the new york times," our president a week later attacked us also as fake news,
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right? so i think we're all connected. when i was with cnn, these times are extremely different. you went into war zones. we would go into conflict. you know where the bullets are coming from and how you can protect yourself. this time it is coming bottom up. when facts are there, we have no legs to stand on. then the lies are repeated top down by the presidents. this is an existential moment for journalists. here in the philippines, we're on the precipice. on the verge of losing our democracy given everything going on. i am now facing eight criminal, well, now i'm a convicted criminal which was the narrative seeded on social media four years ago. it just took a whale for the justice system to catch up.
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now journalist has been replaced with criminal. i have more in bail and bonds than the markovs convicted in other countries. actually, our managing editor wrote a piece that. where the philippines goes, the united states follows. the kinds of, the weaponization of social media is global. and we know that it has been used. there is almost a dictator's play book to use this to attack news groups and journalists and to water down facts. i think this is a big problem. >> you know, your president once famously said, just because you're a journalist, you're not exempted from assassination. where do you go from here in terms of your own work? your important work. i mean, you are incredibly
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brave. what do you do now? >> we will appeal this. we will bring it to the next level. there are two huge shifts of law that happened. in order to even bring this to court, there were legal acrobatics that had to happen including changing the statute of limitations for libel from one year to 12 years. that is barely addressed in the verdict. then the second one is this idea of continuous publication, essentially because someone in rapper changed the type graph cal error of a story first published in 2012 before the law we allegedly violated was even enacted. because of that, it allowed the case to go to court. imagine someone fix as typo, you can go to jail for six years. this is insane. where else do we have to go?
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like every journalist around the world, we have to hold power to account and we need to get social media to a point where it is not spreading lies faster than facts. this is a global battle. we will redefine all of this. >> that was one of your first campaigns. facebook and misinformation and so on and so forth. do you worry for yourself? >> i learned how to protect myself from conflict situations in cnn. we've been in these places. the difference is it is fear of fearful i learned a lesson in four years. when power, great power, tries to hang a sword over your head, if you allow it to affect you, they succeed. you're not doing the kifbl
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journalist, the investigative journalism we should be doing. what we have learned, we swatted away and we keep our eye on the ball. it makes me wonder and worry. what is the government afraid of? why are they afraid of journalists? why must they always make me feel their power? i think i'm a nice person. i ask very respectfully. our reporters are very respectful. but they don't like the questions. we need to get back to the idea of checks and balances. >> you are a fine journalist and a very nice person. i wish you all power and keep at it. you're terrific. thank you for spending time with us. good luck. >> thank you. when we come back, is air travel safe?
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cnn's fred pleitgen took to the skies to find out. >> reporter: as europe reopens many of its borders and airlines hope to get some business back, at lufthansa's check in, it's clear much has changed. of course keeping physical distance is almost impossible when on an international journey. lufthansa asks all of their passengers to wear the mask both in the airport and on the plane. inside the terminal a lot of physical distancing measures, but upon boarding no more. they hand out disinfectant wipes but otherwise passengers don't need to change their behavior much. >> the only thing we ask the passengers, they wear the masks the whole time. only if they eat or drink something, they can take it off. >> reporter: like many european carriers, most of lufthansa's
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flights are grouped. they received a bailout of $10 billion but our flight from frankfurt to porto is packed. >> as you can see, we're all sitting pretty closely together. that's one of the problems they face. they need a hygiene concept that works but it has to convince weary travelers that it's safe to get back on planes again. some travelers a bit concerned. >> it's also a little bit scary, i think. >> i'm a little bit surprised because i thought actually based on the coronavirus we are sitting very, very close. >> reporter: lufthansa says state of the art air filters on the planes make infections unlikely. >> medically safe. more than 99% of those viruses are going to be taken out by the
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filters. >> reporter: the pilots, by the way, always have to wear masks on the ground but never in the air, the captain says. >> the facial expressions are very important as you communicate with your colleague. some strange situation, it's good to see is he in fear. >> reporter: before landing in portugal the crew hands out leaf lets on how to prevent infections as they convince travelers that holiday travel is possible without risking new spikes. fred pleitgen, cnn, porto, portugal. >> crowded in there. thanks for watching, everyone. i'm michael holmes. you're very lucky. natalie allen is here with another hour of cnn after the break in teal. looks like they picked the wrong getaway driver. they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness
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welcome to our viewers joining us from here in the united states and all around the world. you are watching "cnn newsroom" live from atlanta. i'm natalie allen. ahead this hour body cam video leads up to the moments of another shooting of another african-american man, rayshard brooks here in atlanta. comes against the backdrop of 20 straight days of nationwide protests of police brutality and racism. all of this amid a global pandemic.
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