to match what he was saying, not true. today an independent panel investigating the noaa's information, they violated policy when they didn't included the input from alabama. that seems a long time ago. >> it was many tragedies ago, but when you lie, to please power, it often violates your own set of ethical guidelines, that's what they're dealing with at noaa, and that's what the rest of us are dealing with every damned day. coop, you're the man, good to see you, happy monday. i'm chris cuomo, welcome to "prime time." i say happy monday and i wish each and every one of you a good day and a good night. i know many of you are worried. sick, sad, scared and yes, angry. the pandemic has gotten boring, but that doesn't make it go away.

this thing does what a virus does, it's spreading, we have to look at why. and remind what we can do and what will happen if we don't do it. and while nobody out there needs or should need another example that we need to change how we treat one another and how we police. we get the rayshard brooks situation. a tragic killing by any definition in atlanta that is echoing in waves of outrage once again across the land. it's not as clear a story as that of george floyd's killing. thankfully, much of it is on video, so we don't get tortured by various people's takes by officers and witnesses. i know this video can be disturbing. but i think not paying attention to the reality is more disturbing, here's what we know. cops were called by wendy's to remove a car from their drive through lane. police find an intoxicated mr. -- apparently intoxicated

mr. brooks. half an hour of peaceful dialogue ensues, he's talking about his sister and where to go, and walking home. this video is moving way too fast. but we're going to take you through it again, don't worry. after they have the dialogue and they allow him to move his car. they then attempt to arrest him. this is where it gets more complicated. mr. brooks resists, that cannot be in dispute. the officers don't seem to know how to control him. that is a key point for me. i'll make it in more detail about why it matters so much to me in this situation. because they cannot control one inebriated mr. brooks. apparently, two of them, they go to the taser. brooks gets up, takes a swing at one of the officers, grabs the officer's taser. takes off running. i don't see that mr. brooks had what some describe as drug

induced super strength, that sometimes you'll hear discussed. i see poor technique and that matters in this analysis. if you can't do your job using minimal force, you wind up using more and more force. hence two officers not being able to control in a struggle, that anybody who's had any measure of fight training sees they don't know what they're doing on the ground with this man. they don't. i'm sorry, no disrespect for police. i have high regard for how you do the job. this is not good technique. they use the taser, because they could not control him. he gets the taser and then what you see happen here ensues. he gets away from two officers, because they don't know how to restrain him. he takes off. the officer then shoots toward brooks and hits him. okay? now. did he have the taser?

yes, did he appear to reach behind his shoulder and shoot at the officer as he was running away? yes. the officer is garrett rolfe. he's chasing a man who's running away, and shoots him twice in the back. yes, brooks resisted. yes, he hit a cop. and got their taser and took off and arguably tried to use it, he was also shot multiple times while running away by police who knew who he was and where he lived. and one key point. that what he was pointing at them was not a gun. because they had already searched him and knew he did not have a gun. and yet this is going to be heartbreak all across the board. and already is. and the question once again

looms above us, what is justice. the police chief stepped down saturday, the officer who shot brooks may be charged any day. the brooks family once again crushed. >> you people that are looking around the world, you have your feelings -- before it happened to us, i can only guess at what you felt. now i understand. life shouldn't be this complicated. life shouldn't be where we have to feel some type of way if we see the police or someone of a different color. we going to have to bury him. we're going to say we miss you. if we didn't say we love you enough, we have to apologize to him for not telling him that we loved him that much.

>> i have to go. >> y'all took -- i want y'all to know you took the wrong person. that wasn't the person to take, he wasn't no -- >> all we do is just watch now, right? there's nothing to say, nothing to understand, you know exactly what that family is going through now, you've seen it so many times, they don't understand, this doesn't make any sense to them, they don't break it down in some type of points for and against. and there doesn't seem to be any answer. hopefully what we're getting is a will to have an answer. a will to see it as something more than another episode and a horror story. justin miller is an attorney for rayshard brooks family.

counselor, thank you for taking this opportunity to represent the family's perspective on this situation. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> counselor, a little bit of a macro point. when you look at this situation. what is this case about for you? >> this is hard, the video you just showed, i mean, living that. it brought me to tears. and i do this for a living. but to answer your question. to me it's about his daughters and his son. it's about that 8-year-old girl who had that dress on on saturday waiting for her father to take her to the skating rink, it's about a wife who's never going to see her husband again and didn't get to tell him how she felt and different things she wanted to express to him that she'll never be able to express.

it's about cousins and aunts and uncles and nieces and nephews, and a lot of people who loved him who will never get to see him again. justice is a hard thing to really fully put your hands around and on this one, really all of them, but this one right now, i don't know if we'll ever be able to say we got it. >> justice is defined as fairness under law. there is no fairness when someone is gone. no balancing equities because the life can never be given back. what do you think is the reason this happened. you both -- you and i both know there are complications in this case. what is your analysis of why mr. brooks died? >> i think it's a combination of what you were talking about before i came on. yes, it does have something to do with the way mr. brooks reacted in the situation.

it has a lot to do with the police officers' training. i think they're trained to be more militarized than they need to be and they're placed in communities with people they don't know. these two officers, i don't know them, but i don't believe they lived in that community, or been in the community, hung out there, went to church there, i don't believe their children went to school there. i would wager those officers' first contact with that community is when they became police officers. i could be wrong, but that's how it is. in atlanta, like other cities, there are different pockets of people. and before you police a pocket of people, you should have to do 100 hours of community service at least so you know the people

you're around. >> why does it matter? the push back point is, no, they're there to enforce the law, and that's what they do, and it's not personal, this isn't about palling around, what's the counterpoint? >> well, i mean 90% of the time the interactions with police officers are not something they need to go and crack somebody's head. >> like this one, they spoke for half an hour with this guy, let him move his car. if you thought he was drunk, probably shouldn't have let him move the car. if you're going to arrest him for being inebriated, should have figured it out. he wants to walk home, walk to his sister's, then they decide to arrest him. >> correct. >> now, this is going to come down to perception, what force they needed to use. he definitely resists, no question about it, rayshard brooks was wrong to resist. you're not supposed to. it's illegal unless your life were in threat at that moment. it's a tough bar to make as we

both know. >> right. >> building that in, what was the right thing for police officers to do with a rayshard brooks resisting? >> well, it depends on what point you're talking about. so after the scuffle. i believe the right thing to do was to try to catch him. and if you can't catch him, then you can't shoot him, because you can't catch up to him. >> let's talk about why, justin. we take this stuff for granted. this is not about him, i don't know justin, this is not about how we feel about it, it should be for him, he's representing the family. this is the standard of in the state of georgia, when an officer can use this type of force that was used, put it up on the screen, please. i know you know it, justin, this is for people at home. police officers may use deadly force to apprehend a suspected felon. apprehend means what you think, capture, only when the officer reasonably believes that the

suspect possesses a deadly weapon. now, here they knew he did not. because they had already searched him. he had no gun on him. >> yes. that's right. >> oh, but he had the taser. the police do not consider it a deadly weapon, it is intermediate force. or any object device or instrument which when used offensively against a person is likely to or actually does result in serious body injury. now, we highlighted that part of it. does the taser -- now, there's a secondary analysis also, so if it's not about the weapon, if they believe that he's committed a serious crime, that involves the infliction of -- or threatened infliction of serious physical harm, they may do that too, that is a tough legal standard that does not apply here. i don't believe they have a reasonable case to make, these officers, they let him move the car, they talked to him for a half hour.

if they thought he had just killed somebody or was going to kill someone when they intercepted him, they should have handled it this way from jump. put that aside. the taser, beating, not even beating them up, escaping from them. they didn't know what they were doing on the ground, two officers should be able to hold down one guy who does not seem that he's cranked up on meth or crack or anything like that. sometimes anecdotally people say that makes someone super strong. i don't see it, he runs away, points the taser at them, tries to fire it, does that trigger -- no pun intended, does that spring their ability to use the force they did? >> i don't think it does. if you look at the video closely, the officer dropped his taser and put his hand on his gun before mr. brooks turned around with that taser and just randomly shot it in the air. he already was going there. >> what does that mean to you? >> he was already going to lethal force, he was going to shoot him in the

back before any of that stuff with mr. brooks happened. i think he's going to use that as a defense, if you look at the tape, you'll see he's already headed in that direction. >> it's important for people to do this. who shoots somebody in the back? we saw this with scott. the officer didn't know there was video, lied about the episode and then somebody else, the bystander in south carolina showed us the video. someone who shoots someone else in the back is an enraged human being. they're so angry that they shoot at the person even though the person no longer presents a threat. that's not a police officer. a police officer is trained to de-escalate. the officer is allowed to use force that justin and i can't use unless our life is in jeopardy, because they're given an assumption of knowing how to use the power. the chief is gone, one of the officers was fired, the other is on desk duty. the prosecutor was on with anderson and seemed to have -- frankly, i've never heard a prosecutor before any charges come down speak in as harsh tones as i heard this

prosecutor. if there are charges, what charges do the family believe are warranted? >> the family's not -- officers to be charged, that's part of what they've been saying the entire time. they're going to let the d.a.'s office make the decision. >> they're watching the situation, they just wanted to be treated in all seriousness, whatever the system says, that means they'll watch. justin miller, please send our condolences to the family. i've sorry they've become relevant in this way. >> thank you, chris. >> god bless, and thank you for doing the job. >> thank you, chris. >> we'll follow it, we'll see what happens, we'll go through the analysis, it's not an easy case, it's not george floyd. why? them arguing that floyd resisted is not supported by anything we've seen. they're hiding the body camera, they can under law.

don't mean to ascribe animus on that. but here we have video and someone is resisting, but then he is running away, and that could very easily change the legal analysis for the prosecutors. there's one problem. now another problem, the pandemic is doing what we thought it would do. we're not getting the summer off. so now the president gives what message to this country? no mask, social distancing masks optional. you don't want to wear one, you don't want to keep anybody else safe, fine? come to the trump rally in tulsa, inside what he hopes will be a record setting crowd. dr. sanjay gupta looks at what that could mean and why tulsa's top doctor is very worried next.

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where are we with the death toll from the coronavirus? in terms of cases, we're going to be well into the millions. in terms of deaths, it can surpass 201,000 by october according to one new model, it's 30,000 more than was projected last week? why? we're not doing the right things where and when it matters. 18 states rising in numbers.

the south is a blanket of red. including oklahoma. that's where the president is going to be this weekend for his tulsa rally. dr. sanjay gupta joins me now. first point of pushback is, look man, this is what the virus does, what we expected. why do we have to be in a sense of panic all the time? >> look at other countries around the world. we've had 600 people die in the last 24 hours. have we gotten used to that? that's more people than have died in this entire pandemic in other countries. they didn't have a therapeutic or vaccine. this didn't have to happen, this sense of inevitability that you're describing that people have resigned themselves too. it's not inevitable. it's a pain, it's tough. mother nature fighting back i guess in some ways. this did not have to happen, when you cite these numbers of millions of people infected,

hundreds of thousands will die, by the way, the model that you just cited, 200,000 people would die by october 1st, i think they say, keep in mind, when we were talking about this in april, they were saying 60,000 people would die by august 4th. we're twice that essentially now and it's the middle of june. not only are we doing bad, we're doing far worse than even the models suggested at the time. >> why would the president do what he's doing, sanjay? you don't have any better data than his guys do, right? they're the ones studying all this at the cdc. he's having his rally in tulsa, forget about the optics of where he's going to do, when he's going to do it. no mask, mask optional. social distancing not necessary, let's pack it in, let's have record numbers. why is that okay? who's telling him that's okay? >> it's not okay. i can't imagine anyone is telling him this is okay. you heard vice president pence sort of justifying it today, i think even he was searching for the language to make this okay. nobody is saying this is okay.

let me show you, the cdc, they put risk factors on different kinds of gatherings. as you might guess, virtual gathering is lowest risk. the gathering we're talking about here is the highest risk, right? 20,000 capacity in this particular arena, that's the number of people they want in. there will be no physical distancing. it's indoors. people coming from all over the place. many elderly, then going back to their communities. putting people shoulder to shoulder, masks optional. the virus is the virus, chris. we've been talking about this for 5 1/2 months. the virus hasn't changed in all this, it's a contagious virus. that scenario is the worst case. i cannot believe in the middle of june, after all we've learned about this pandemic, that that would even be a possibility. and it looks like it's actually going to happen. we have learned other good things as well in terms of what might work, chris. masks. we've been

back and forth on masks. take a look at the numbers. question comes, i have the virus, what's the likelihood i would spread it to you if i did not have a mask on? about 17 1/2% they said. this is early evidence. if you have a face mask on, it's 3%. it's about a six fold improvement, mitigation in spread. it's not perfect, but it makes a difference, you want to get back to some sort of normalcy, it -- you want freedoms and stuff like that, it probably should involve wearing a mask. the data is becoming clearer. i don't know how to answer your first question. my guess is, nobody says it's okay. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you very much for being a voice of reason and science as always. be well. >> thank you, chris. we showed you more than two dozen examples of systemic racism in our country just last week. so what happens? well, now we got to fight about it, right? okay, so here's the criticism.

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people don't like the truth about systemic racism, not real, not that bad, not on our watch. these people just happen to be politically aligned with this president. you can decide for yourself why. yes, some of the data stops in 2016. the question is why, and only some does. they want the truth, here it comes. first, the fed only runs the complete numbers every three years. so where's the 2019?

good question. ask trump. ask the same people that are defending him. they're over a year late. why hide the numbers if it's the best economy for blacks ever? when you look past the rs and ds, you see, incomes for black people have slightly increased over the last 30 years, hooray. no, not hooray. the bigger trend is those same people falling further and further behind. this is about a relative assessment, white versus black, not just going up, it's relative. the true measure of wealth isn't just about the numbers on the check. it's the gap between what you have and what someone else does. that's why we use the more complete federal data. and not the annual income figures that come out every quarter. the latest numbers show blacks behind by a 10 to 1 ratio. their portion of the pie is actually shrinking right now. in the early '90s, the ratio of

black households compared to white households was about 22%. it's almost half that in the latest numbers. again. half that. if you want to talk about the data, the proof is an administration that chooses actively not to see the truth. administration that fought in court to stop collecting data on how many companies pay people of color. that won't even let investigators look at data to see if banks are making it harder for black people to get loans. ended government participation on commission to collect data on how police interact with black people. don't play with the data when you don't want to approve any data. arguing with the numbers because the truth doesn't fit a political agenda doesn't work when you try to bully cnn's polling. and it doesn't work when so many are in the streets living the reality that to you only looks like charts and graphs. over the span of american history, the trump administration is a rounding error. playing gotcha politics, ignores the moment we find ourselves in. one pushing to finally fulfill a promise that for too long has just been words on parchment.

either all women and men are created equal by what we see every day or they are not. an area of seattle full of protesters, largely free of police appears to have a new name. and the police are taking a new approach to the demonstrators. you've heard from the mayor now the chief is here. are they in sync? breaking news about what the city council just banned next. ♪ ♪

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federal action to address the occupation of the capitol hill autonomous zone, now also known as the capitol hill organized profit or c.h.o.p. here's trump today. >> if they don't do the job, i'll do the job. i've already spoke tonight attorney general about it. if they don't do the job, we will do the job. >> you can hear all the legal experts in the world say, that's an empty threat, he can't do it, it has to be asked for, except for very specific conditions. let's talk to the seattle police chief. carmen best is here to weigh in. thanking very much for joining us chief, appreciate it. >> good evening, thank you for having me, i appreciate being here. >> i heard you speak on this several times. forget about the president. let's talk about the perception. you guys are not in control of your own city, got people all over the place, they burned the police out of the precinct, you didn't like it. didn't want to surrender, the city caved to pressure, now they're saying you'll never get it back, it will never be a police station again. how is that law and order?

>> well, that's a lot of questions there, let me start by saying this. >> cherry pick it. >> i will, i'll do that. i can tell you that what's happening in seattle, there's not a no police department response zone. as people have categorized the capitol hill occupied protest area. you know, there's a small area in a section of the city, where we're dealing with some occupants and some of the issues there, seattle is not under siege and we are responding to every call and every area of the city. when it comes to that particular area, we get a call, there's an important emergency, 911 call, we're going in, we're going to do our job, i have a list of reports we've taken already. we also have to be considerate of the delicate situation we have there. the last thing i want to do is to have any issue of violence occur in the area. we're being very judicial about

how we do it -- judicious about how we do it and how we go in. while we're dealing with that issue, more than anything, i'm focused on the future. how are we going to re-envision the future of policing with all we have going on in the country and specifically in seattle for me today. go ahead. >> chief, let me take one more beat on this, then i want to talk to you about what needs to change. >> it's hard for people to look at this -- look, i've spoken to the mayor multiple times. saying look, this could be a summer of love, this isn't the first time we've seen this, we're not as panicked by it as the rest of you are. it looks bad that they kicked you out of your own police station. and you do not have control of the streets where they are, chief, just to be fair from all the reporting on the ground. these guys are negotiating with you. calling themselves a sovereign, making lists of demands and asking to be taken care of even though they're a sovereign, which i don't quite understand.

how is that to be perceived by people outside of seattle as a good situation? >> i wouldn't call it a good situation. words matter here, so what we have here is a situation where people have occupied an area. and we're working with them, the city is working with them, it has negotiators to work with them, to have a peaceful resolution. ultimately we want to make sure that people don't get hurt, and it's not a situation where there's lawlessness, we do have some concerns, but we are responding to the area, we're doing so carefully, we're making sure that we take care of reports that have been given, and we're following up on each of those reports and making sure people are arrested and we find any perpetrators of any crime, that has not stopped. admittedly there are barricades that prevent us from going in as quickly and efficiently as we like to, because we're not in the precinct, response times across the entire east precinct area have increased.

i definitely want our officers back in that precinct and i'm not thrilled about the situation, we recognize that we have to make sure we protect everyone's safety in this situation. >> what is the one thing? people always ask for dozens of points of change. let's start with one to get past the status quo we're in. what is one thing you think has to change? >> well, there's a lot of things, i would say i'd start with we have to just re-envision how we're going to move forward. the seattle police department has been under a consent decree for almost a decade now, and we have done everything we were asked to do by the federal government. when i stood at the black lives matter march the other day, it was very clear to me that it wasn't successful. people are angry, they have a lot of signs about the police department, and defunding the police department, issues of brutality, we can't ignore that, we have to acknowledge that there's a long history there,

and having a federal consent decree did not resolve the issues we're dealing with. i really sat and thought about it and really had an epiphany about we're going to have to change. having one institution such as the courts that has its own history of racist practices and oppression, trying to direct another institution, which is the police department which is struggling through our own history isn't the answer, we have got to work directly with the community, we have to bring them in, under the tent, engage with them, so that we know that we're doing the right thing and the community as well. we work for the people and we let them down in some ways, very clearly by the number of demonstrations we're seeing, and the number of black men who are dying at the hands of injustice. >> it can't happen soon enough, we will continue to watch the situation. i appreciate you coming on the show. you are always invited to make the case. >> thank you. >> to this office. >> thank you very much. >> i wish you the best. >> thank you.

>> take care. this is happening in seattle, in the context of one case, then another case, then another case, now we have this shooting, the death of rayshard brooks, okay? this is a reminder of two other high profile police killings of young black men. and yes, police officers have been getting hurt also. shot, killed, is that an aspect of this problem? of course. it's all about unnecessary violence. this case, though, brooks is going to be a tough one. it's going to be controversial, for good and bad reasons. let's get perspective through some top legal and policing minds next. hey! lily from at&t here. i'm back and while most stores are open, i'm working from home and here to help. here's a tip: get half-off the amazing iphone 11 on at&t, america's fastest network for iphones. second tip: you can put googly eyes on your stuff to keep yourself company. uh for example, that's heraldo. he's my best friend.

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the law on this may be tricky. let's get the legal and law enforcement analysis with joey jackson and charles ramsey. gentlemen, always a pleasure. thank you for being with me tonight. first, do we have a quorum of agreement that this case is going to be a little trickier than what we saw with george floyd or even recently with ahmaud arbery? are we on agreement with that? >> yeah. >> agreed, chris. >> fine, let's move forward. first joey, on the side of if we have it in the control room, can we put up the standard of use of deadly force to have it when we talk about it? joey, what is the argument on the side of the police not having had the right grounds to use deadly force. put it up there again just so remind people. here's when you can use deadly force. if the person you're dealing with has a deadly weapon or any device. it could be a hubcap that if you think the way they're using that

hubcap could cause serious bodily injury or when you think that person has committed a really bad crime, which means that they could be a really a threat of serious harm to others. that part i don't think fits here, that's why we highlighted the other part. in that context, what do you see, joey? >> so breaking it down further, here's going to be the analysis consistent with what you showed, chris. number one, was the officer in immediate fear of death or serious physical injury. that's the first inquiry. number two, was the force they used proportionate to whatever threat was posed. and number three, did they act reasonably under the circumstances? there's an argument to be made in this case, that when a person is running away, they're having a taser -- which is not a dangerous or deadly weapon, did you or was there a need to shoot and fire when they turn and proceeded to run and you're shooting toward the back. you let the person go. you live to fight another day.

as it relates to a defensive position. the defense is going to argue it was a split second decision that needed to be made. the officer evaluated the circumstances. and in that split second context he that the force you used was disproportionate. you had a weapon. and you acted unreasonably, under those circumstances. those are going to be the competing narratives, ultimately if it gets that far, a jury will make the determination. >> okay. so in terms of the police perspective on it, what did you see in this altercation, chief ramsey? >> well, let me go back a bit in the video that was shown, from when they first made contact with mr. brooks. at one point in time, when they first get him out of the car, the officer asks two questions. one is, do you have a weapon? and he states, no.

the second question was, do you mind if i pat you down? he said okay. so he patted him down. well, at that point in time, you know he's not in possession of a firearm or a deadly weapon. now, he was never out of the their sight, from that point on. and so, when the second stage of this occurred, which, at the time, they began to try to handcuff him. and he starts to struggle and fight. eventually, getting one of the tasers. i believe it was the officer who did not fire, whose taser was taken. and he is able to take off running. even though, at some point, he turns and actually looks like he fires the taser. tasers aren't like a semiautomatic, where you can just fire over and over and over again. it's got to reset and all that, which most people wouldn't even realize that if they're not accustomed to using them. so he didn't pose any threat, in terms of serious injury or death to the officer, at the time he fired the shot.

>> and they also had -- they had information on him. they knew who he was. they knew where he lived, and they had his car. >> driver's license. you got a car. >> theoretically, you could have gone and gotten him, whenever you wanted. >> exactly. >> one more question for you, commissioner, and then back to you, joey. i've been -- please, i've always trusted you to keep me straight on things. tell me if i'm looking at something too deeply. when i watch this altercation, i see two officers, commissioner, who do not know how to deal with somebody on the ground. and, to me, it's got to speak to not having the training, commissioner. you know, i've studied this stuff for a long time, as a journalist and as a fighter. they do not know how to control him. yes, he's a good-size guy. i don't see any evidence of superdrug strength that, anecdotally, we talk about sometimes. if anything, he was kind of sleeping in a car. they didn't know how to deal with him. they had to go to the taser. do you see something here that

speaks to inadequate training? >> well, i mean, it could very well be. i don't know what training they provide in that department for officers. there are courses in ground fighting, which is exactly what it's called, which help officers learn how to actually overpower an individual when you're in that situation. now, two against one situation, the one officer had his hand, which really puts him at a disadvantage because, now, he's only got one hand to actually use to try to bring the person under control. he was probably using the drive stun of the taser, which is a pain-compliance technique. so it's very possible that could have been an issue there. or this guy's just stronger and just overpowered him. >> joey, last word to you. >> i think what we have to look at is what the chief said, which is a very significant point. and that's, initially, before even the running, you had patted the person down. you've made the determination, at that point, that they didn't have a weapon. and so, now, you're shooting

him, based upon the taser that he has looking backward toward you but he is proceeding to run. you have his license. you have the car. you live to fight another day. you preserve his light. you don't take the shot. and, thereby, you avoid criminal charges. more importantly, you preserve a life. and, at the end of the day, that's what we're looking to do. tamp down the situations, allow a person to live, and not overly be aggressive, such that you take someone's life who is a brother, an uncle, a member of the community, and that is there's charges or not. >> commissioner, you believe there's going to be charges here? >> well, against the one officer that fired the shot, there's a strong possibility that he'll be charged. i doubt if the second -- i didn't see anything for the second officer, that would indicate anything criminal. in fact, you know, quite frankly, even reviewing it, administratively, for a suspension, i don't see anything that officer did that would necessitate that. >> joey jackson, charles ramsey,

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