and by the way, have a great weekend. to chuck schumer and mitch your first father's day. mcconnell. >> i know. >> you think you have to get to it's -- 60 votes on this? >> it is legislation. >> it's big. >> surreal. >> this is going to be a simple really surreal. majority. >> barack obama had 60 votes and he didn't do it. there's a lot of people who, you >> i know. know, father's day, mother's day i know he didn't. are hard for people who have he couldn't get it done, so he had to do a stop-gap measure and lost a parent and growing up, i never paid attention to father's the president said he'd do day because my dad passed away better, this president, trump. and it was just too painful. and he hasn't. the house passed it. so, to be celebrating father's he never said to mitch mcconnell, take it up. day is -- it blows my mind. he's never said, work out a deal. so, just another of the kind of we both know that. so, what was this lawsuit about? >> well, he didn't tell other wonders of what's going on. people to try to work out the sanjay, thank you. deal, chris, he got to the table happy father's day. and the news continues right now himself and it was chuck schumer with another father, chris cuomo. and nancy pelosi who tanked it, chris? not donald trump. >> but they didn't take it because of daca. he could have done this all by himself, ken. we both know the reality. i'm chris cuomo. >> no. welcome to "prime time." >> if he wanted to do daca it's time now, if you will alone, he would have. indulge me, for a different kind >> no, no. of diagnosidiagnosis. one of a sickness that is even the supreme court just said no. it is illegal and the dissent more pervasive than covid-19. said it is illegal and oddly enough the majority wouldn't address whether it was legal or i want you to witness the verl not. >> i agree with everything you just said. the executive order not the way lens in real-time. to do it. president trump holding a rally now, they didn't really get to that represents everything it, but my suspicion is going to

experts that he picked say not be where your head is. to do. what i'm saying is, the the ne game of everything you president could have gone to the democrats and to the republicans just spent an hour with sanjay and said, just daca. and anderson hearing about is do daca and i will sign it. i want to help these people. helpful and necessary. i want to get them out of the going to a state with rising mix. cases. they're not our problem with just saw its largest single day immigration. >> so, chris, i hear you changing the terms. jump in cases. so -- >> i never changed anything. a state where the health experts but continue. are worried about a mass >> this is a bigger part of a broader immigration challenge unmasked gathering. that has gone unmet for many years. and he is going to do exactly what creates the most risk and i don't think it's reasonable to just say, go do this one thing. there. masks optional. social distancing optional. congress never just does that. please come. >> why? that's exactly what the all of you come. president did. the president did exactly that. let's have a huge crowd. he went all-in on a wall. he went all-in on one aspect of but trump is asking everyone who enters to support him, to sign a a complicated situation, when he could have done anything if he wanted to. release that he is not he picked -- responsible if anything happens >> no, that is not what happened. daca was on the table, the wall as a result of everything he's was on the table, other asking them to do. for him. elements -- >> but he did the wall, he

he asked you to come to what he didn't do daca as a standalone. knows he shouldn't. tells you the only things that will he do it now, ken? help are optional. will he say, do daca -- and then wants you to make sure >> i can't answer that. he has no responsibility. in this, you have the perfect >> but that's your job. >> what i can tell you is he'll example, a metaphor of the go back to the table. he was willing to do that and said that at the time. >> d.a.c.a. alone. >> it was the other side that malady and of the madness that has made a mockery of the trump walked away and stayed away. presidency. >> d.a.c.a. alone. >> they walked away and stayed away. >> i heard you the first time. one set of rules for the donald, another for you. >> we'll solve immigration problems just as this president has continued to do, but i'm another example? sorry, chris. look what happens around him in we don't get to set those terms. the white house. oh, there are a couple of cases. if we're going to solve everyone wears a mask. immigration problems, we're going to solve immigration problems. everyone gets tested. >> will he do d.a.c.a. alone? all cases are traced thoroughly, >> the supreme court did congress's work for them by but not for the rest of you. those he looks down upon at a buying several years or a year and that's it. they just delayed. rally or just living in this country, no need to be careful. they didn't solve and the thomas that's weakness. his presidency is riddled with dissent said, this court is his own self-interest. doing congress's job that congress isn't doing. >> yes. all agreed. he literally went to the supreme court hoping for a ruling that >> the president was at the table. >> the president walked away also because there was more

obama was wrong to help dreamers added to it than daca. >> he did not walk away, chris. no, sir. the way he did and thought they would just miss the fact that he he was not the one who walked away. he is willing to talk. >> let's do it this way. he is willing to talk. good. has no plan to help them. even though he promised to. let me ask you something. do you believe dreamers are americans? he lost at the supreme court, >> no. again. why? they're illegal aliens. >> and that is the problem. because in america, rules that's the problem. matter. in america, we surrender the me and that's why you're not going to get a deal. to the we. >> daca stands for deferred in america, the highest interest action. >> yeah. >> daca stands for deferred must always been justice, not action. the action deferred is deportation. just trump. >> i know. >> i'm just being a lawyer here. trump called the defeat a >> you're not being a lawyer. shotgun blast to the face. >> yes. political leverage. this, the same man who said all >> no, but -- >> barack obama and the this -- democrats have been using these >> we are going to deal with folks for political leverage. daca with heart. otherwise, they would have i have a love for these people. solved the problem when they had the votes. i want daca to happen. >> why did they use it? because it is a question of >> lies. humanity. it's not about the law. it is about humanity. period. if you want to use the law, he wants to kick more than remember this line, professor, 200,000 front line workers, including 27,000 who are in equity about hors a forfeit health care, out of the country sure.

in the middle of a pandemic. these people have jobs, they've paid taxes, they have never why? because he thinks it will be a known any other country and you promise kept to his base. but his presidency and its are going to say they're not marginal popularity is proof you americans, because they're american in every way, except something they had nothing to do can no more cater to just a base with, which is how they came into the country. than you can hope to win again >> that's why everybody is willing to come to the table. by just being base. that's why the president is by dividing. willing to come to the table. >> you just called them illegal lying. and defying the command of aliens. leadership and responsibility that's why you're not getting it done. that falls squarely on the >> i did that. you asked me and that's the shoulders of the highest leader answer -- >> that's not what they are. >> the entire court acknowledged in the land. and taking responsibility is that today. just something this >> they are americans in every way. administration and this man not just some legal term that is prejorive. >> they grew up in america. refuse to do. >> they're just like you and me. another example? the administration refuses to >> they grew up in america, but take responsibility for the the whole legal issue here is growing number of coronavirus that they are not, in fact -- >> this is about politics, like cases. and by the administration, i you said before, it's not about mean the president. the law. he looks at the map that you see it's never been about the law. and he says, not me. it's about doing the right thing and if the president wants to, i again, why? will cover it every day. because the president sees if he alone, reopening as good for him. ken -- this is what i'll say. reopening at any cost, so that i you are welcome on here all the time, you know that. i love having you on the show.

doesn't cost him. >> i appreciate that. but the truth is evident in the >> if they're going to do daca and that's what he wants to do, pain. hospitals are filling up at critical rates. i'll give you 20 minutes to make your case on what you guys want to do on daca. i got to jump right now, but i 1.5 million of our brothers and sisters find themselves out of wish you the best with father's day and thank you to make the work. and the numberingly harsh case. god bless and be well. coronavirus death tolls. the deaths that this president listen, here, we test. doesn't even talk about anymore. but i don't do it with animus. today's supreme court decision, along with the earlier one this but the dreamers are americans in every way except a piece of week to protect lgbtq workers paper. and the word illegal alien, i from discrimination, remember, know you can find it in the law, all right, but we also know what it describes. he promised to be a champion for that community. lots of words have been used in the law. it's all proof that he has never we've changed them over time. been about fairness for any miam group that doesn't favor him. miami's mayor tonight is, but a president must fight for quoting him, extremely concerned about the rise in coronavirus cases in florida, and fears that fairness or fail. and trump's stubborn silence on his city may be the next epicenter. the state of florida just shattered a record for reported systemic bias has been stunning, cases. and we know why. as we see streets filled all over the country with those who they're not doing what the states that got hit hard and made it through did. command better than his so, what is their action plan? reference to division and his one of the few officials, in obvious and ugly attempts to fact, you'll be shocked how hard it was to get somebody.

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killing of rayshard brooks. more than 24 hours after telling the world that fired officer garrett rolfe could face a possible death sentence if convicted, he now insists that's something he was never looking for, the prosecutor. listen. >> well, i -- i think it's clear that we're not asking for the death penalty. we simply cited that because or high blood potassium. hey! lily from at&t here. statutorily, that is one of the i'm back and while most stores are open, possible sentences, but we're not seeking the death penalty. i'm working from home and here to help. i don't think anyone rationally here's a tip: get half-off the amazing iphone 11 on at&t, expected that we would ask for the death penalty in this case. america's fastest network for iphones. >> the language should have second tip: you can put googly eyes never been dangled out there on your stuff to keep yourself company. then. and similarly, d.a. howard uh for example, that's heraldo. maintained that the other officer charged, devin brosnan, he's my best friend. is willing to turn state's oh, sorry nancy, i forgot you were there. witness. that directly contradicts what get the amazing iphone 11 for half-off on at&t, his defense team told you right here last night. america's fastest network for iphones. a short time ago, after posting bond, brosnan broke his silence about the shooting. >> i have full faith in the

criminal justice system. i think this is a tragic event and it's a total tragedy that a man had to lose his life that night. i felt he was friendly, he was respectful. seemed like someone who potentially needed my help and i was really just there to see what i could do for him, to make sure he was safe. show that florida has, quote, >> all right, so, let's take a look at the state of play in this case. all the markings of the next let's bring in our legal and law large epicenter of coronavirus transmission. enforcement experts. more than 3,000 new cases gentlemen, thank you. reported, just today. charles, let me start with you, that's the highest single-day quickly here. i don't want to unfairly paint number, in this pandemic, in that state. we wanted answers. the prosecution. the death penalty option was put so we make phone calls. that's how we do the job. out there as a possibility by take a look at all the leaders, them. brosnan being state witness was who said no, or just blew us put out there by them. this prosecutor was on tv before off. starting with governor desantis. charges were filed, signaling the only thing that he seems that charges were in all likelihood coming and that is more nonchalant about than covid something that we rarely here from a district attorney in this is about coming on to make his situation at all, let alone in advance. any concern about politics case about why he is doing what creeping into the performance early on? he is about covid. all those people won't come in. >> well, i don't know if it's politics or not, but certainly that people are quiet, when they

this moved very fast for the don't want to be held to account. but one official did say yes and criminal justice system as it that is pinellas county relates to dealing with police officers. i've had cases that have gone on for a year or two and i'm commissioner, ken welch. thank you for taking the certainly not saying that it should take that long, but i am opportunity. >> thank you for having me, saying that it's been, what, a chris. >> why do you think the state is week? if that long. struggling more, recently? and when you move fast like >> well, we're obviously seeing that, sometimes you can make a resurgence in pinellas county mistakes. i agree with you, they never should have dangled that language out there, because and the state of florida. there are people that then start it comes down to behavior. looking for that as a possible folks are not socially outcome and i never thought that distancing. and i think it comes from the messaging, the mixed messaging, it was even remotely possible that it would end up as a death we've seen from highly -- elected officials, at the penalty case, personally. federal level and at the state level that, you know, it was >> right. joey, explain to people why it mission accomplished. and it's back to business as was in the realm of possibility usual, and that's absolutely not in context of the charge and why the case. in the last eight days, pinellas you believe or don't believe that it will be in play. >> so, i see things another way. county has registered -- cases. i don't think it's irresponsible on his part, i think it was responsible on his part to give 38% of our cases were registered people the sense of what the statute provides. in the last eight days. he is charged with felony

murder. what does that mean? it means in the commission of a >> the plus and minus. felony, someone died. on the plus side to your what is the underlying felony? argument, we had three young women on, the other night, from jacksonville. aggravated assault. a prosecutor, you want to let and they went out to a bar people know what is, as you mentioned, chris, the state of there. and i asked them why didn't you wear the mask? play. the charge that he has called why'd you think you could go for provides for if it is into a place like that and beside it'd be okay? smart, educated people. pursued the death penalty. could he have clarified and said okay? and they said, wiell, you know, at the press conference, we're we'd been told it was all right. not seeking it? he did not, but at the same and we candidn't know a lot of time, he let people know what people who had it. the deal was. so, to the extent that he was it's where we always go so we'll go. 16 of the people got sick. seven of the people there. info informing, i think it was appropriate that he said so. do you believe mixed messaging as to the other issue, briefly, is, what, are you talking about if i can, you mentioned him from the president? or, more specifically, in your state? and how so? >> well, i mean, you've heard, dangling th dangling, the other officer was from the beginning, that this going to cooperate. for all we know, the other was a hoax. that it's like the flu. officer's lawyer could have that it will, magically, go gotten to him, shaken him and said, what are you talking away. and then recently, here, in the about? i think you have a viable case. state of florida, governor let's take that back, let's walk desantis talked about how much that back. so, we don't know what happened. better we did than other states. all i can tell you is, when we saw the press conference, i and i think folks hear that, thought that mr. howard laid out without knowing the science behind it. the facts, he laid out the law and think, okay, we've gotten past that, it's not a real issue and he laid out the policy as it

anymore. and i can tell you, as we move relates to not shooting a taser through reopening, i've seen, from someone, you know, you personally, just crowds of folks can't shoot a taser if somebody is running away, much less a at bars, at restaurants, all gun. he said that. you have to render said, he said that. so, there are a lot of things he over pinellas county. mentioned that were very and folks that were tuned in responsible and in light of that, you have to inform the knew, two or three weeks ago, people and be transparent. over the memorial day weekend, that's very important. >> all right. charles, what is your take on that we would see this result in what we're hearing about a couple weeks. what i'm concerned about is what officers in atlanta seemingly we're going to see two or three weeks down the line, where the protesting in their own way, by impact of the second phase, not showing up for duty, not where bars were more fully returning calls? the mayor, in response now, or opened, restaurants, youth the municipality, at least, is sports, fitness centers, all giving bonuses, they're saying it was about, you know, all the opened up. so we got a storm coming, and we extra duty during protests, but need to act now. and i think one of the few tools it could also be seen optically as kind of paying them to come that we have to deal with an and do the job they're already getting paid to do. airborne pathogen is to stop what is your take on it? >> well, you know, listen, this folks from inhaling infected is a tough situation for police air. that came from our medical across the country. i do not agree that officers director today. and one of the best ways to do that is facial coverings. should not come to work. i mean, this isn't pro bono >> wear a mask. try to social distance. work. you do get paid to do this and be smart about where you go. you have an oath that you've taken and you have a do the minimum you have to, in responsibility that goes along with that. terms of moving around. having said that, though, i it's not that complicated.

think -- it's important that we but it gets complicated when people mix the message. think about -- we need to have commissioner, i appreciate you coming on. i wish more of the officials balance when we're talking about policing in this country. would. i'm not holding you responsible for that. the last month, almost, has been >> thank you. >> and you are welcome to back, very, very negative, to a point as the situation evolves, to let where in some instances, it's people know what they need to know. god bless and be well. almost as if police with being happy father's day. demonized as a group. >> same to you, sir. and we have to be a little thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back. careful, because it is demoralizing. it does, i think, wear on officers, not just in atlanta, but across the country. so these police chiefs have to hit these roll calls, have to talk to the men and women, keep their morale up as high as they can, get them out there doing their jobs. if they do their jobs properly, they have nothing to be concerned about. if they don't or if they are one of these people like we saw in both minneapolis and atlanta, yeah, you've got a problem. and so, i think we just need to make sure that they have the balance they need so they can continue to get out there and do their job. and if i could just say one more thing about the prosecutor, my you ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. whole point was that in -- this is a heightened emotional state.

worlds matter and you have to be yeah, like a regular person. very careful. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite. if you knew from the beginning you weren't going to seek a death penalty, either don't throw it out there or throw it oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top? out there and say, that's not where we're going, because people have unrealistic expectations when something like that is thrown out in this yeah. current state that we're in right now. >> fair. yeah, i could see that. so, let's do this. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. let's take -- let's take a quick break and gentlemen, please stay with me, because let's take on the really hard part of this conversation, okay? there are arguments that will be made that may make convictions difficult in this case, for both officers. i know a lot of people don't see it that way, but we're doing a disservice if we don't run the analysis all the way through so, let's take a break, we'll come "ok, so, magnificent mile for me!" back and we'll go through what i thought i was managing... may well happen at trial. ...my moderate to severe crohn's disease. next. when the world gets complicated, yes! until i realized something was missing... ...me. you ok, sis? my symptoms kept me- a lot goes through your mind. -from being there for my sisters. with fidelity wealth management, "...flight boarding for flight 2007 to chicago..." your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice so i talked to my doctor and learned- ...humira is for people who still have symptoms and tailored recommendations. of crohn's disease after trying other medications. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management. and the majority of people on humira

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windows of the seniors' rooms. god bless her for doing that. thank you for watching. cnn tonight with d lemon, right now. >> we just lost little richard, who did that. one of my favorites. i have a big painting in my home, i'm sure you've seen. we need some good news. we needed some good news, and in the rayshard brooks case, someone who is an ameri-can, as things have moved very quickly from the policing and you say, because there's so much craziness going on in the world. prosecutorial perspective. there is so much upheaval, however, you got to be chris. reasonable or you have to be at least aware of what is to come. have you -- garrett rolfe, the officer who was fired, his case, while there are charges, probably won't be presented to a grand jury before january. now, he's in custody tonight, but has already been moved from the fulton county jail to another facility for security reasons. he's going to have to wait a long time to learn his fate. prosecutors need to build a case. and this is the part i want to

discuss with you. this is not a case against citizens. the standards are different. the defense arguments and the ability to justify action is also different, because these are police officers. that's not to say that they get a break. it's a different standard under the law. let's look at this with joey jackson and charles ramsey. i couldn't ask for better guests than this. now, let's start with the lesser charges against brosnan. okay? joey, brosnan's defense is going to be, look, i gave the guy a break, i talked to him for awhile. when he made the choice to start fighting me and start kicking my ass, i fell and whacked my head. next thing i knew, he had my taser and i was, like, stumbling around trying to figure out what happened. i heard gunshots. i didn't even know who was shooting. i ducked behind the car. i look up, i see the guy on the ground. i run over, make sure he is not still a threat. as soon as i perceive that, i

did start giving medical aid. in fact, everybody else showed up and i kept giving medical aid even in the ambulance. how am i getting charged? how potent is that? >> i think it is very potent, chris. and you lay out, certainly, what the case will be for the defense. and i think it's important to go back very briefly to what the chief said. this is not about demonizing police. police serve us every day and twice on sunday. we're grateful for that. we salute you for that. may you continue to do it and god bless you. >> amen. >> what we are looking at here is something that is potentially criminal. i say potentially because there will be a trial, in the event it goes that far, and people who do things like kill people when it could be avoided need to be held accountable, so, to your point, yes. there will be the argument as you just laid out but also the adverse side of that. and the adverse side is having an obligation to preserve life. the adverse side is that you communicated with this person and you recognized during that communication that he was compliant. you had an obligation to tamp things down. you tried to then put him in cuffs and he did not comply with that.

thereafter, what happened was really serious, really unfortunate, a tragedy and unlawful, will say the prosecution. why? you aren't in immediate fear of anything. you weren't in immediate fear. you had his car. you had his license. he fired a taser. you know that a taser, number one, under policy, is not a deadly weapon. number two, you also know that if someone is running, you can't even fire your taser at him, so, why would you fire a gun? and to the extend that you have him, if you're the other officer, not rolfe who did it, but the other officer, why do you then stand on him thereafter? why do you not render immediate aid? you are trained to do it. you failed in doing it. you have to pay the consequences for doing it. guilty. that'll be the argument. >> chars charles, now, in police, the man was definitely running away -- or was he? >> right. >> they will offer the argument that, no, no, no, he was running, but he turned. and he pointed. and he fired.

and we saw the taser discharge and now joey's definition must be changed. the taser in the hands of the untrained user can be a dangerous weapon and that's why i had to switch from my taser to my weapon, my pistol, and fire he had turned and i was afraid he could really hurt me with that thing. how does that stand up to training, practice, and practicality? >> well, you've got two problems here. the first is that early on in the encounter, when mr. brooks first gets out of the car, he's asked if he has any weapons on him. he says no. then he was asked if it would be okay if he got patted down. he complied. he was patted down. at that point, you know he doesn't have a firearm, a knife or other type of deadly weapon. >> he says the taser -- the taser is the dangerous weapon. >> well, but everything is

smooth until the wrestling, then he grabs a taser and he starts running. my point is this. when he turns to fire the taser, a taser is a dangerous weapon, not a deadly weapon. you know how tasers function as a police officer because you're trained on it. i believe that was the second discharge of that taser, but even if it was the first discharge, it whats to recycle. the average person has no idea on how to recycle and how to fire a taser a second time. now, there is a popping sound. and what he's probably going to say is, he just reflexed when he heard that pop, you know, in that instant. and remember, these things happen in a matter of seconds. we rewind the tape over and over again and have still shots and all that but the reality is on the street, it's happening in real-time. he instinctively drew his weapon and he fired. i don't think it was a justified shooting. don't get me wrong. but i think there is an argument there. i think it is going to be difficult.

you couple that with the enormous publicity this has been given, it is going to be hard to even find a jury that has not somehow been, you know, exposed to this in a way that could prejudice them in some way. if you get a change of venue, that could really have a dramatic impact on the outcosm the case. >> i think the worst fact -- look, there's no question mr. brooks, rayshard, changed the dynamic for the worse when he decided to resist. of course, officers have the duty of de-escalation, they're supposed to be trained. that's my pet peeve in this situation, i think a window in the reality, that our police officers need more training on how to deal with people without using their weapons. but when he's running away, use your radio, not a weapon. and the detail of him kicking mr. brooks -- if a jury believes he kicked the guy when he was on the ground and said "i got him," it's going to change the formation of what his intent

was and what was in his mind and that's when things will get very dangerous for this weapon. let's be honest, people have to be aware, it's a higher standard when it comes to police in making this case. we'll see how it goes. joey, charles, i got to jump, i'm out of time. this conversation will be continued. to both of you, men i look up to and appreciate and rely on, happy father's day. thank you for being the kind of men that make our children better for you having the presence in their lives and thank you for being a presence in my own. god bless and be well. >> same to you, chris. same to you. the trump campaign -- i don't know what else can you call the inverted try angle. i am in no rush to introduce more an any mouse into this society. i swear to evenirything that matters to me. but this is a symbol of hate. and it was put in an ad by the campaign and then they have the audacity to fight with facebook and the other platforms for silencing speech. why would you have anything that can be confused with a nazi

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that is a symbol that was used by nazi germany to mark political prisoners inside a concentration camp. do you see it? do you realize it is identifiable? do you realize it has no other significance in our political culture other than that? now, the trump campaign is denying they were trying to make a nazi reference. instead, they say that that symbol is affiliated with antifa. we've seen images of antifa activists. i have not seen any wearing or holding anything with an inverted triangle symbol. by the way, anti-fascists are the ones who fight the nazis, okay? also, the campaign ad never identifies the symbol associated with antifa. so if that is why you did it, why didn't you say it? how are people supposed to know?

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the message from the highest court in the land and the land of social media today, this president does not get his own rules. let's hear from someone on the inside, acting deputy secretary of homeland security, ken cuccinelli. good to see you. it's been a minute. >> hey, chris. good to be with you. >> it seems when i looked at the dissent in this case, because, not to bury people in the weed, but this was basically, we're not going to rule on daca,

whether it's good policy or bad policy. you guys have to do this the right way. we feel you didn't address the right kinds of aspects you needed to. go back and figure it out. then all of the justices pretty much agreed on a couple things. this isn't about trump making racist comments during the campaign. and really, the lawmakers should figure this out. this is a political dispute. so let's jump to that. do you guys have a plan on how to make good on the president's promise to protect and help dreamers? because if you just remove the current protections and you don't replace it with any, they're going to be lost. >> so if you remember, chris, almost two years ago, now, the president was negotiating with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to address this problem and they pulled out of that discussion when a district court froze the case in place at the time and they thought they'd bought time. and so they let these 640,000 folks just kind of stew in their political juices, and the president wanted to finish that

discussion and that opportunity was gone when those two leaders from congress walked away. so this has been attempted once. the president was committed to that discussion. the supreme court, as you noted, chris, and part of the opinions, there were five opinions today, they said congress should be dealing with this. this should be done via laws. president obama himself said he didn't have the authority to do this -- >> it was a stop gap. it was a stop gap. >> to get to legislation. >> that's where the leadership comes in, though, ken. the reason they left it alone is because it left the protections in place. and it left the fore per rans in place. it is on the president to lead to make something happen. he never brought it up again. it just seems like the urgency for him was in saying obama was wrong and not doing anything that is right. >> yeah, chris, you're looking the other way at the people who left the table and you're

blaming the one guy who stayed at the table. and is there another opportunity? >> the house passed daca protections last year. >> i heard -- >> ken, we both know that. >> i heard senator durbin talking in terms of finishing e? >> you have to deal with the house and the senate. >> who runs the senate? for 60 k