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tahank you so much for joining us. have a good weekend. you can watch "outfront" any time on cnn go. anderson starts now. good evening. tonight with demonstrations and celebrations in cities all over america on this day, juneteenth that commemorates the emancipation of enslaved men, women and children the united states has threatened anyone who demonstrates outside his rally. tweeting any protesters, an arkests, looters or low lives going to oklahoma, please understand you will not be treated like you have been in new york, seattle or minneapolis. it will be a much different scene. the white house spokesperson was asked about it a few hours later. >> it's the president indicated the right to peacefully assemble
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should not apply to his rally? >> that's not at all what he was saying. he means violent protesters, an arkests, looters, the lawlessness that played out before president trump came with the national guard and calmed our streets with law and order. >> there is a lot to unpack. he calmed the streets with law and order by pushing out peaceful protesters. she says he was meaning violent protesters regarding tulsa. that is not what the president meant. you might ask how do we know this? because that is not what he said. he said any protesters lumping any protesters in withing with agitators, an arkests and low lives. what a way to begin. encouraging tens of thousands of people from near and far to come to tulsa, back an indoor arena for hours standing shoulder to shoulder with other people who may or may not be wearing masks and may or may not have covid.
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the president who so loves supporters is encouraging them to risk their lives and sign a waiver they won't sue him if they get ill is lying about the threat of covid in oklahoma and elsewhere. here is what he said when he was asked aren't you worried about people getting sick? >> no, because if you look, the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. it's dying out. >> it's dying out. the virus is not dying out. people are still dying. the president's interest in covid, that, too is dying. here is oklahoma's seven-day average of cases since the beginning of the pandemic. as you can see, the virus is not dying out there, it's thriving. also, in florida where new cases hit another record high today, california also seeing record numbers of new cases, not fading away there, either or in arizona sadly, which set another record today. the president has been lying about it all week and the vice president has been telling state governors to lie by echoing administration's bogus claims
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increase testing is the reason for the increase in cases. and the vice president who is supposedly the head of the coronavirus task force, which is no longer seen in public together is himself modelling risky behavior, not wearing a mask, not social distancing, not doing what members of his own team have been telling everyone to do. >> as the country begins to reopen, don't forget to wear a cloth face covering when in public. >> we have the scientific evidence of how important mask wearing is. >> go out, wear a mask, stay six feet away from anyone. >> a mask does prevent droplets from reaching others. >> as long as you're not in a crowd and you're not in a situation where you can physically transmit the virus and that's what a mask is for. >> remember, i wear my face covering to protect you, and you wear yours to protect me. >> out of respect for each other, as americans that care for each other, we need to be wearing masks in public when we
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cannot social distance. >> we're all in this together. >> we're all in this together. out of respect for each other. just some of the advice from the vice president's own coronavirus task force members. here is the specific guidance from the cdc on events and gatherings and i'm quoting now, highest risk, large in person gathering where it is difficult for individuals to remain spaced at least six feet apart and attendees travel from outside the local area. add to that, an inside event. by the way, the vice president today refused repeatedly on camera today to say the words black lives matter. he'd only say quote all lives matter. we'll have more on that. first, two angles on tulsa tonight. gary tuchman is in tulsa. what's the latest there? >> reporter: anderson, this is the b.o.k. center here. this is where the rally will be held. it is the home of the tulsa oilers minor league hockey team. the oilers in the league suspended the season because it
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wasn't safe for 19,000 people to be watching hockey but tomorrow night, 19,000 people may be more will be watching donald trump. masks are being given out but the masks are not mandatory. loath lots of people are not happy we're here. a look at the people waiting in line. many all week. hundreds of people here and this is 25 hours before this rally starts. we've asked a lot of people are you going to wear the masks given out? they tell us is no way we're wears masks. they are criticizing us for having masks. the older people say they are considering wearing masks. you can see the chant. that gives you an idea of what is going on here. also, one other thing, we asked people about the covid. many believe it not real. other people tell us covid is the same as the flu. some acre knowlednol l acknowle situation. they say it's personal responsibility.
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the fact is this rally will be taking place for about an hour and a half. people are allowed to go in four hours early, so people will be in there, most without masks for over five hours. it will be precarious for people outside who the people inside run into. anderson, back to you. >> gary tuchman in tulsa, oklahoma. thanks very much. i want to go now to have more on what the president has been saying about this and why the people around him see this rally so important for that. let's go to jim acosta. let's talk about what is going on in the white house. do they care that the rally is also considered to be a possible super spreader event? why is it so important this occur? >> anderson, i think the president understands that his reelection hopes are tied to motivating this base. so this has become almost his top priority right now, if not the top priority. i'll tell you, when we asked the press secretary about this earlier today, she said there are no reservations inside the
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white house about having this rally. i asked kaley whether or not she'll wear a mask. she'll be at the rally tomorrow night. she says she will not. it's a personal choice for people that work at the white house. anderson, as you and i know, i mean, essentially the president has politicized this issue of wearing masks. but given all of that, the trump campaign manager says he may wear a mask tomorrow night and the president's economic advisor says if he were going, he would wear a mask. they are all over the place on the issue. listen to what dr. anthony fauci said today on cbs radio, you should avoid large gatherings and if you can't do that, always wear a mask and here you have the white house press secretary essentially saying she's not going to listen to dr. fauci's advice. >> and there was supposedly a coronavirus task force meeting today. you know, we don't get to hear from them anymore. they don't do the daily briefings. do we know if concerns about the rally were raised there?
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>> we know that concerns about large gatherings were raised, and it was done in a non-specific way i'm told by a source close to the task force. anderson, they have had multiple task force meetings over the last couple weeks ever since we've known the president is going to have this rally and my understanding from talking to my sources is that at these task force meetings, they have not raised theish shaw of the trump rally in tulsa, which is incredible because this is the very place you would go and hear from public health experts as to whether this is a good idea. i talked to another administration official this evening. you get the sense that they're hell bent on having these rallies no matter what. they are looking at the demonstrations in the streets that happened since the kill of george floyd and they are saying if they can have their protests, they can have their demonstrations, why can't we have these rallies in places like tulsa? not really understanding that it is sort of an apples and oranges
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comparison but it seems, anderson, they are willing to take this risk if experts like dr. anthony fee chauci say this bad idea. >> they are having people who attend the rallies sign waivers, is that correct? >> the trump campaign is having people sign waivers saying if you come into this rally, you give up all recourse in terms of suing the president or any of the organizers of the event, which is incredible because you're going to have people going into this rally tomorrow. you just saw on the live shot with gary tuchman who just aren't going to wear masks and not going to be social distancing. we asked kaley about this. she said cdc guidelines are recommended but not required. well, of course, they are recommended and not required. there is no way for them to socially distance inside a crowded arena. they're just not dealing with the reality of the situation and that's what we've been hearing from our sources throughout this, anderson. >> jim, thanks very much. perspective on the public health factors.
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joining me is the president of the oklahoma research foundation. thanks for being with us. tulsa, i know, recorded sadly the highest number of cases to date. as a medical professional, what do you make of this rally tomorrow from politics aside from a purely health standpoint, does this make sense? >> it does not. certainly having a large group gathering, particularly in an enclosed space like the arena they are talking about is a bad idea. you can tell your our medical research foundation, we don't allow meetings of ten people. if they want to have meetings of ten from the lab group, they have to meet out in our courtyard around picnic tables. they cannot be in an enclosed space and not more than ten. to put 20,000 people in a enclosed space for hours and hours is very dangerous. >> you know, i think, look, everybody is sick of, you know, social distancing and i mean, nobody enjoys what's been going
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on and has been devastating for people. as a doctor, how do you convince a patient, you know, plenty of people know what is good for them, and yet, people still do things which are bad for them. i mean, how do you try to get this message across? >> yeah, you make a good point. it's not just true of this situation but of all of health issues. and, you know, as human beings, we don't judge risk very well. that the well established. we tend to, you know, pay attention to things that just happened or that are highlighted on the news or whatever and think that's the biggest risk when in reality it's not. i used to joke when they say the best time to get somebody to quick smoking cigarettes is in the cardiac care unit after a heart attack. that's a little -- that's a joke, of course. there is a little truth to that, which is people say i didn't think it would be me and so
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there's always that element of well,ist not going to happen to me and becertainsurt we certain with the coronavirus situation. in particular with young people who feel like they're immortal or won't be seriously sicken bid the coronavirus. >> what seems administration's approach on this, i understand their push to reopen and, you know, that's an arguable point. but it's not an either orsen narcot scenario. reopening doesn't mean don't wear a mask. you could have an administration, which is pushing for reopening and at the same time saying, you know what? to really make reopening work, we have to double down on mask wearing and double down on social distancing and testing and all the rest, the contact tracing. >> yeah, you're exactly right. to say it was an example, again, back to our remembown research institute, we require everyone that comes to the door in a mask
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unless they are in a private office or at a picnic table in the courtyard. any time they are inside and around people, they must wear a mask. the broader point how to reopen. i'm in favor of trying to get our economy going and society open. we're all tired of this and it's devastating to many people for their income and so forth, but it needs to be done in a sensible way and as safe as we can make it. we have a big collision in oklahoma city called start o.k.c. designed to do just that. try to use best practices from around the country to, you know, wearing masks, u.v. lights to sterilize the air and antibody testing later on and increased viral testing. all of the things that you mentioned are really important, if we use them safely we can get the economy going again. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. >> my pleasure, thank you. coming up, more on the juneteenth breaking news and what the vice president is refusing to say. we're joined by dr. cornell west
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and what a federal judge had to say to justice department attorneys trying to stop john bolton's book from coming out even though the remarkable details from it already have come out.
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juneteenth seen a lot of history over the legacy of slavery and freedom that gave birth to it. protests over the police killings of black americans surrounds the day. when asked about it today vice president pence couldn't bring himself to say the words black lives matter we hear all lives matter. speaking to cnn affiliate wpvi mr. pence made note of george floyd's killing and juneteenth and said quote in this nation, especially on juneteenth, we celebrate the fact that from the founding of this nation, we have cherished the idea that all, all of us are created equal and
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endowed by our creator with certain rights and so all lives matter in a very real sense. in saying that in addition to not saying black lives matter, the president makes no mention that we have not always cherished as a country that all women are equal or gay people are equal or black men or women are equal. his statement leaves a lot out. the interviewer asked him why we would not say black lives matter. he said i don't accept the fact there is a segment of american society that disagrees in the presso pressousness and importance of every human life. joining us is cornell west and co-host with professor tricia rose. great to see you again. i'm wondering what you thought of the vice president, you know not saying black lives matter. that doesn't really surprise me because i think he views it as a political statement and he's got the base to appeal to, but then
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also, on top of that, to sort of rewrite history and say we have cherished the notion that all men are created equal, obviously, that is not the case. sadly. >> no, i think that the both president and vice president constitute a significant slice of my fellow citizens who live in a state of denial. i wish they would go back to the great frederick douglas' powerful speech, what the july 4th means to the american slave. listen, pence, listen, trump, when he says july 4th your celebration is a sham. national greatness is nothing but swelling vanity. that your boasted liberty is an unholy license and america has no rival when it comes to revolting and shameless hypocrisy that's 18 a -- 1852 in
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rodchester new york. listen, president, listen, vice president. this is part of your history. this is a vicious legacy of white supreme see. it begins with our precious indigeno indigenous. slavery was america's original sin. the first sin was a white s supremacist and then the say bored nation of white brothers with no property who still could not vote and the domination and in the midst of those evils, america generated folk who love truth enough and beauty enough and goodness enough to say let us resist. let us still fight. in the 1960s, brown said no slave should die a natural death. that every oppressed people no matter what form it takes has to go down fighting and we fight in our various ways. we empty ourselves.
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we donate ourself. we serve others in various ways but don't die a natural death. that's what juneteenth is about, my brother and happy holiday to you. that's what it's about. that's precisely what it's about. keep in mind now, brother, it was not really the end of slavely as you often here on the press and so forth, the confederate army was still fighting in june. they didn't defeat the confederate army until june the 2nd and 17 days later they got to galveston. it was not a problem of communication but domination. the confederate was refusing to give up. they surrendered april the 9th. they are still fighting. so the slaves had a communication problem, they knew there was a decoloration, but the on the ground, they still haddo occupation. they didn't get to houston until
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june 20th. the history of black people, wonderful words on paper, where is the execution on the ground? where is the action on the ground? december the 13th, finally ratified. even the end of slavery was not just an abstract matter of words on the ground, black people were still being enslaved in the forms of neo slavery were beginning. granger says masters of slaves will become employers and hire labor, free men go back home and be quiet, have nothing to do whatsoever with military activity except your low wages and if you're lazy, we will withdraw any support. that the in the executive order number three that major general granger read to the slaves. so that this issue of how do we hold on against the grain with integty, honesty and decency, listen brother pence, listen
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brother trump. i'm born in tulsa, so i don't want to get started with tulsa now. whoa. >> i didn't realize you were born in tulsa? >> hospital with the wilson brothers and the gap ban gap green. that's black wall street. that's where you have more wealth. oklahoma. my father went to booker t. washington and so forth struggling to make sure the best of oklahoma was preserved and now here comes trump bringing all of his hatred and greed and ignorance and manipulation. but he's a human being like everybody else so we got to keep track of humanity. we got to use it. >> for someone who claims to, you know, want to protect american heritage, for the vice president to not tear down confederate statutes, not put up during the war or immediately after, they were put up to rewrite the history of slavery in this country, to kind of champion the lost cause, i just
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find it ironic administration claiming to be protecting american heritage does not actually fully admit what american heritage actually is, and the fact is that, you know, america is able to look at its painful past and its painful presence and try to change. i mean, that is one of the things about this country whether, you know, whether it works or not and whether it successful or not, you know, we are having these discussions and have throughout the centuries. i just think it important not to rewrite what actually occurred. >> absolutely. but i mean, it true that pence and trump, when they say they are preserving american heritage, they are but they are reserving the worst of it. there is the best and there is the worst. the martin luther king junior is as american as donald trump. trump is a gangster. marginal saint. he's a force for good.
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and there is white, brown, red, yellow, different colors who represent the best of the american heritage, and there's different colors representing the worst, but white supremacy is meant given white power privilege and benefit and so forth that too often is been the white supremacist. the confederate lost a war, white sup preliminaremacy won t. we had those in 1965 up until recently, but now we're pushed back but thank god, we've got these folk disproportionately young on the streets saying we will have no more of this and that puts a smile on my face. you know what i mean? oh, yeah. we passed on something and we going to continue to pass on something until the worms get up and the lord gets our soul if we're lucky. >> if we are lucky.
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amen to that. dr. cornell west, thank you. appreciate it. >> stay strong, my brother. >> you, too. a bad week in court for president trump. his latest possible set back involves john bolton's memoir. what a federal judge said about the request for a temporary injectii injectii injunction when "360 "continues.
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john bolton's memoir is slated for publication in four days. they have obtained copies and so today a federal judge told the justice department seeking a temporary injection that the horse quote seems to be out of the barn. it's unclear when the judge will make a decision, it could come
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after the book's release date. he said bolton appeared to have walked away from the classified intelligence review but de difficult to see what he could do about a book about the president's ee's ignorance and soee coziing up to dictatordict. why the president would demean the abilities to demand the president himself appointed. >> why does the president keep hiring people dumb as a rock, over rated, way over their heads, wako and incompetent? >> so the president makes hiring decisions based on the fact that he likes to have counter vailing view points. i spoke to him this morning about the hiring of john bolton in particular and he said i like to counter balance my own opinion with individuals that often times have the very opposite opinion of my own. he likes the motto of having a team of rivals like in president lincoln's administration.
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>> joining me is chief legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin and dana bash. jeff, a cabinet of rivals. >> just like lincoln. >> in so many ways. just legally, the judge doesn't think it's possible to stop this book from coming out. i think you have a copy of bolton's book at this point. >> you know, anderson, we talk about, you know, the president's racism and bigotry. what we don't talk about often enough, i think, is the sheer incompetence, the sheer just inability to do the job of running the government. i mean, imagine asking a judge to suppress a book where, you know, here is my copy. it came in the mail today from the publicity department. you can't suppress this book. it a completely ridiculous request. earlier this week, chief justice john roberts said you could have repealed daca but you didn't do it right and the same thing with, you know, putting the citizen ship question on the n
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census. you could have done that if you knew what you were doing. this this administration. putting aside the merits, they don't know what they're doing. today was another example of that. >> dana, we've seen two competing arguments about the book that is full of lies and also full of classified information. both those can't really be true, can they? >> we'll answer that by saying, i, too, have a copy of the book. this is the horse out of the barn as you said. >> am i the only person not sent an advanced copy of this? >> i'll see if i can get you a copy, anderson? >> no, that's all right. i believe in buying my books. that the fine. >> i lost my train of thought. you asked can it be classified and a lie at the same time? >> richard grenell who is an acting director of national intelligence for the president briefly was on erin burnett's
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show and said it can be because there could be a kernel of information that's classified that's part of a largely fabricated story. putting that aside that that is a logic and argument that may or may not be logical that is being spun by the president's allies right now, what you are seeing is a classic trump pattern. which is, you know, maybe there is some incompetence as jeffrey said but in this one, it's pure rage. i mean, he has been doing this since he has been a realtor and -- excuse me, a real estate developer and a businessman in new york. he doesn't like something, he goes after them with a lawsuit. and i can imagine the people at the justice department who are making these arguments, i'm sure that they're not very happy about it but they are being ordered to do so by the president of the quite becauuni because he is mad.
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it doesn't make allt lot of se but it's not the first time. >> usually, more often than not didn't go through with them but more the threat. jeff, sorry, go ahead. >> i mean, just the -- it's one thing if you hire a private lawyer and, you know, the lawyer will do what you say. these people are the united states department of justice. they work for us. they don't work for donald trump. and the idea that they would go into court with such an absurd request just because donald trump is mad and just because, you know, all this, you know, government activity and campaign activity to make him feel better, you know, we're going to go have a rally and expose thousands of people to dying because he feels he needs the affirmation of a crowd. that's not how government and campaigns are supposed to work. the government is supposed to actually work on the merits and for the interest of the government, not the personal peak of the president and, you know, he's going to wind up
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having his head handed to him on this issue already although he might get john bolton's money taken away. that issue is a live one and bolton by, you know, by passing the close fiassified informatio process may have his money taken away but the book isn't going anywhere, that's for sure. >> the judge was very critical of bolton's actions, right? saying that he had an obligation to go through the review process but walked away and published. i mean, it's -- yeah. >> there is something to that. there is definitely something to that. john bolton, you know, would argue probably that he didn't wait for the review process because they were dragging their heels because they knew exactly what john bolton wanted to do and it was bad for the president and they wanted to slow roll the process, which they already did. h he wanted to publish this several months ago. so there is an argument on both sides. i think one thing that john bolton has done that i don't think i've seen since james
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comey is that he has united republicans and democrats against him. in a way that i haven't seen in a long time. >> yeah. dana bash, thank you. jeffrey toobin, as well. more on the former white house officials, robert gates who served two presidencies, defense secretary joins us when we return. ♪
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about the memoir of john bolton who said president trump is unfit for office. the latest broadside but someone who served him closely. john kelly, trump's former chief of staff said we need to look harder who we elect who wrote donald trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people. general mattis compared the president to the nazis. joining me now, robert gates, secretary of defense under george w. bush and barack obama and the author of a book exercise the power of american fill yo failures and successes. thanks so much for being with us. i want to get to your book in a moment. i want to get your reaction, though, to all the former trump administration officials and their criticism of the president, you know, john bolton saying president trump is unfit for office. you're echoing words you used in 2016. he obviously has more now firsthand experience. do you have any reason to doubt
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bolton or any of these other e secretary mattis for example? >> well, i have the highest regard for secretary mattis, and i think, you know, as i understand it from what i read, bolton took copious notes and clearly was able to observe firsthand for 17 or 18 months. i think one of the reasons there have been so many sort of tell all expos from this administration, loyalty is a two-way street. if people know that the president has your back and will support you, they're going to be very careful about doing anything that damages him. on the other hand, if they know they hang by a thread every day in their job, that's a different matter. >> in your book, you talk about team work and talk about process and how important that is to the success of any administration.
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you know, when asked why the president keeps hiring people he later labels as dumb as a rock over rated, way over their heads, wako, incompetent, all words he's used. the white house press secretariry compared himself to president lincoln's team of rivals, that's what he's going for. i mean, do you buy that at all, that, you know, he's mirroring the team of rivals, cabinet or rivals there? >> if there's one consistent theme in all of the books by former senior officials in this administration, it has been that the president does not like having counter vailing opinions. he does not like being disagreed with, and unfortunately, that's a mark of the best presidents. they purposely surround themselves with strong people, strong personalities who will
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disagree with them, who will argue with them. and that certainly was the case that i encountered under president push and obama. they went out of their way to solicit contrary points of view. >> our allies, our adversaries, they read and see these comments, the controversies from president trump. what impact do you think this has had, all of this has had on u.s. global influence? the president repeatedly falls back on this phrase that he uses that before the world was laughing at us, nobody is laughing anymore. seems to me, i mean, just whether they were laughing before i don't know but they certainly seem to be laughing now. >> i think one of my big disappointments frankly is the president's unwillingness or inability to understand that allies and friends are unique asset for the quitunited states. i talk about this in the book. should we put more pressure on defense? absolutely. but they -- one thing that's
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different, russia and china have no allies. they have differents but no allies. we do. think how much stronger our position would be in challenging china particularly on economic and structural issues if we had on our side of the table the europeans and the japanese and the australians and the indians and so on. allies are a huge asset and not understanding that i think is a real problem. >> the navy decided today in what was seen as a major reversal to fire the captain of the aircraft carrier that warned of coronavirus aboard his ship whose letter went public. there was a preliminary investigation that recommended he be reinstated. i'm wondering what you make of that decision? >> anderson, you know, i don't have any inside information about the case at all. so i'm really not in a position to judge. >> in the last 24 hours, president trump has threatened protesters, failed to say he'd except the results of the election if he lost, attacked
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mail in voting. how concerned are you about the next, i don't know, i mean, the next year in the life of this country? i mean, just long term. there is a lot of people right now economically devastated, feel very isolated and alone. obviously, feel, you know, their rights have been violated for generations. there's a lot of discontent in this country. are you optimistic about the future? >> anderson, i think we need to realize we're facing and in the middle of three crisis all at once. an economic mcrisis, a race crisis and a virus crisis and they interact with one another. based on what i've seen and frankly, not just the president but the paralysis on capitol hill, i'm not very optimistic --
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i guess i have to say i'm kind of pessimistic for the near term. i'm an of timmeptimistic about country for the long term but for the next little while, i'm p pessimistic because politicians are focussed on dividing us and seeking or keeping power that the best interest of the country are secondary. >> secretary robert gates, really appreciate you talking with us tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you, arounderson. >> the name of the book "exercise of power." memphis, mississippi, some of the scenes of racial hatred in american history but do you know what happened in tulsa half a century ago? it's been largely forgotten by many people in this country. we remember the massacre of black wall street next. the tempur-pedic breeze makes sleep... feel cool. because the tempur-breeze transfers heat... away from your body. so you feel cool... night after night.
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across america tonight communities are marking juneteenth. in tulsa that includes those in the greenwood district, a neighborhood recently marked 99 years since one of the most horrific acts of racial slaughter in our nation's history in an area then known as black wall street. that sickening legacy was one of the points mentioned in a lawsuit trying to stop president trump's campaign rally tomorrow night over health concerns, a rally the president originally wanted to hold this night. a moment many americans never learned about in school. tonight's randy kaye shows us why we should have. a warning some of it is graphic and hard to watch but we believe it's important to bring you history as it really happened. >> reporter: in 1921 the greenwood area of tulsa, oklahoma, was driving. home to 300 black owned businesses that became known as
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black wall street. >> it was an amazing time for blacks in tulsa. >> reporter: despite all the success african-americans were still dealing with segregation and deep racial tension. it came to a head beginning on may 30th, 1921, when a 19-year-old african-american man was accused of assaulting a white woman in an elevator in downtown tulsa. >> the elevator doors closed and a few minutes -- a few moments later there's a scream, the elevator doors open and dick roland runs. >> reporter: the woman never pressed charges but dick roland was still arrested. >> by the end of the day many whites were claiming that she had been raped in the building. >> reporter: by the next day, may 31, 1921, a white mob had gathered outside the courthouse where roland was being held promising a lynching. >> lynchings were all too common in tulsa. >> reporter: a group of african-american men went to confront the white mob at the courthouse. there was a struggle between the black and white armed mobs and
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shots were fired. the african-americans retreated to greenwood hoping to protect their property and families, but the white mob followed killing african-americans and burning down everything in sight. >> they called it a national horror who was told there was a negro up rising and they were killing innocent unarmed whites so they sided predominantly with the white police force. >> reporter: while they were held the white mob stole their valuables and burned their homes to the ground. george monroe was just 5 years old when the massacre happened. >> the thing that i remember more than any other thing is when my mother looked out the front door and saw four men with torches coming down our sidewalk into our house. >> reporter: this woman's grandmother lived through it, too. >> it was really murder.
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it was a massacre. my grandmother was awakened at night and just told to run, just get up and run. and they ran -- she was only 9. they ran for days. >> reporter: by the time it was over at least 300 african-americans were dead. many were buried in mass graves or piled on dump trucks and dumped in the arkansas river, according to the greenwood cultural center. 35 square blocks of property were destroyed, too, leaving most black families with only the clothes on their backs. >> this was about racism. this was about envy. they saw that blacks were -- many of them were very wealthy, and they were simply envious. they would make comments such as how dare those negroes have a grand piano in their home and i don't have one in mine. we will not forget the history of black wall street or the 1921
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tulsa race massacre. >> randy kaye, cnn, west palm beach, florida. >> ahead we're live in tulsa as president trump gets ready to test the power of his campaign and threat against protesters while personally potentially creating a coronavirus issue. congressman and civil rights pioneer james clyburn is here to look at the history of this moment as the nation marks juneteenth tonight. next. can bring your vision to life and save in more ways than one. for small prices, you can build big dreams. spend less, get way more. shop everything home at wayfair today. if yoyou'll get 2 vyears or 20,000 miles of scheduled carefree maintenance.
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