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good evening, chris comeau is off tonight. my nvrgs with trevor noah tonight. someone who grew up good the legacy of intuitional racism. coming up, history being made at this moment in the president's rally tomorrow in the middle of the pandemic in tulsa, oklahoma. one of the worst massacres ever 99 years ago. we begin with calm leader who has lived through some of the most consequential moments in history. i spoke with house majority whip james clieb earn tomorrow. so much has happened in our country tonight. i'm wondering what's on your mind with the president's rally tomorrow and today being juneteenth. >> thanks for having me,

anderson. one of the things i've be thinking about in the last several day is juneteenth, what it means, why we give light to it. remember, the emancipation proclamation, the one that we all talk about, that was effective january 1, 1863. grainger. general grainger went in to galveston, texas, june 1th, 1865, 30 months later did the slaves in texas find out they were free. it highlights the need to communicate, and what i'm seeing now is the fact that the american people are beginning to communicate. you've been talk at each other. we've be talking past each other. all of a sudden, we seem to be talking with each other.

the failure to communicate. so anything that i'm going to remember about juneteenth 2020 is the period of time when the american people finally began to talk with each other. >> hmm. in an interview with the wall street jury room, the president said, and i quote, i did something good. i made junteenth very famous. as somebody who spent his life fighting for civil rights, i'm wondering what your reaction to that was. >> it's a joke. this president really needs to take stock. the people around him need to take stock. i've been studying and loving juneteenth forever. i used to participate in parades, emancipation day parades. that used to be the biggest parade in charleston, south carolina, in my lifetime, and so we've been celebrating emancipation day, celebrating

juneteenth forever. for him to say nobody knew who it was, he's calling me a nobody. >> hmm. the -- i'm wondering what you make of this rally he's having tomorrow in tulsa. he sent out a tweet this morning which seemingly -- warning protesters of -- he said any protesters, anarchists or low lifes, please understand you will not be treated like you've been in new york, seattle and minneapolis. will be a much different scene, end quote. what does it mean just looking over the summer for democrats having rallies and the president having moralies. is that safe? i mean, is that wise to do? >> well, i don't think that the president is known for doing

nice and honorable things. he knows full well what he's doing. he seems to want conflict. he seals to thrive on conflict. and i think that that's what i'm talking about when i said that to people in this movement, don't play his game. don't give in to violence. that's his game. >> and in terms of coronavirus, where do you see the next few months going? obviously, there's this -- and we're all sick of i. we -- who doesn't want to get back to, you know, a more social active life and a life, you know, being able to see loved ones and friends. do you worry about where we are right now and where -- you know, attitudes shifting so much about staying at home or social distancing, wearing masks, that

are you optimistic with where we're heading? >> i'm hopeful. i'm very hopeful. the fact of the matter is, wearing masks ought to be something that all of us practice and celebrate. to have a leader of this country making a mockery out of wearing masks, that's what i'm talking about. that's not leadership. that's showmanship. that's not what we need. we need for the leaders to lead by present and example. he gives the preseptember wearing a mask. but he won't set the example. that, to me, is not leadership. >> kmap clyburn, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> we're in the record setting number of coronavirus cases in oklahoma and elsewhere.

even if the president says it's dying out, hours away from his rally in the middle of a hot zone. dr. spencer joins us. thanks for being with us again. a list of bad ideas in a pandemic, on that list where does attending an indoor rally with nearly 20,000 people in a state with increased infections fan and not every being forced to wear a mask? >> well, from a public health standpoint it's an absolutely horrible idea. you couldn't convince me or any health professional to step inside the arena tomorrow night. this is not a necessary gathering. we're in the middle of a pandemic at a time in which we have an up creasing number of cases on a daily basis. we have nearly a thousand measures dying. what we're seeing is just another attempt to lull us into

complacency to make us think a baseline of 20, 25,000 cases a day is ok and we can get back to some kind of normal life attending rallies and the things we were doing before. people will come with the virus and a lot of people will go back to their homes and infect their families and we will continue this the pandemic that has hit the u.s. hard because we weren't prepared and we've been an abject failure. >> some would argue, look, bad things happen to people all the time and people die of a variety of things and you know, there's only so much you can do and you know, maybe this is an acceptable toll. is it likely -- i mean, are hospitals going to -- you know, in new york there was the concern that hospitals were going to be overwhelmed and that

the death toll will skyrocket even more because just hospitals couldn't keep up. is that still a concern, i mean, in places where they haven't seen a peek yet? >> absolutely. look, this virus continues to roll armed this country. we're seeing hot spots in arizona, texas, florida, more cases than california. a record high number of cases have been recorded in the last couple of days. and increasing in places such as texas. it's a matter of time before we have a worsening pandemic in this country. it will find people in tulsa and it will follow them home tomorrow. it's arizona today, texas today. next week it could be ohio or north dakota if we don't social distance, wear masks, wash our hands. it will continue to affect us more so than it has on the face of this earth.

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wall street jury room he'd never heard of june 19th. he tried to deny but definitely did say it. he suggested they could be treated roughly if they protest at his rally tomorrow in tulsa which is the site of a sickening massacre of black americans almost a century ago and the president won't say "black lives matter" saying "all lives matter." joining me, w kamal bell and marshall, author of race law and american society. the fact of the vice president of the united states won't say black lives matter and not only that, went on to sigh that all lives matter and that america from its very i am sepgs has embraced the notion that all people are created equal.

>> whoo! i mean, anderson, it's super depre depressing. major corporations are tweeting out black lives matter. starbucks system afried to have saying black lifes matter and they want everyone to hold a starbucks, no matter who you vote for. the guy who lines up behind trump is afraid to say it. they do the exact opposite. yet people are going to be mad at me on twitter because i'm not plemging allegiance to joe biden. >> well, why are you not -- i mean, what are you hoping for this election? >> i mean, i'm hoping more from the movement of this country than i'm hoping for the election. i don't think -- i certainly do not want trump to be president again. let me make that a thousand percent clear. even if biden is elected, the

somehow that's a magic wand that waves over the country. the movement of people right now in the country and the black wave movement to push for the black agenda, hear us, support us, give us our rights and freedom and equality, that's the thing that's going to push this country forward. so you know, like today trump has made a mess of juneteenth but activists have turned it into an energetic movement. >> professor marshall, i wonder where you see the energy of what we've seen in the streets and the norm to us outsupporting and the enormous focus and the continuing outpouring, where do you see that going in the month ahead? obviously, democrats hope to try to harness it and capture it and, you know, have people turn up, get people registered, who may not be and turn up, but as kamal said, this is beyond just an election. >> this is an american spring.

we are in an american spring. the same way we had an arab spring, a prague spring, this is an american spring. you may not be able to hear it but outside in the streets where i am and in maunt manhattan, there are protesters right now and helicopters flying over. we need to understand that young people have been given a special dispensation, i guess, because the older people couldn't come out. so this american spring is taking place and there will be changes no matter what. i just want other people to understand that juneteenth is more that freedom of slivery -- black people having a jubilee. black people had rights back in 1865 that were not respected, so is this continuation of disrespecting african-american rights, until we have reform and

criminal justice, policing and the prosecutor's office, we're going to have protests like this and i hope they continue well beyond the election if necessary, because this is more about the rights of african-americans in this country than any particular political election, especially this one coming up, but it's got to be about more than donald trump. donald trump is anathema, he is someone who has poichd the public already, upset a pool of racism. >> kamal, professor marshall mentions the arab spring. i was in that -- that reary square. just so we're clear, white people firing aunt jemima and giving us a day off, better

schools was more what we were thinking. this is a very large -- this is not just you know, do you worry that this may get derailed or that the energy dies out or that corporations do their -- kind of make minor changes and then things revert back? >> i mean, i think that i've said before, if there's a -- if there's a vaccine that comes out tomorrow, i think a lot of energy goes away from the corporate level and from white folks who don't have to be invested in this every day but the longer the covid is around, the more people focus on the country. i think the great thing to join what the professor is saying is the young people leading this movement are interested in infrastructure and nerdy things. they'll come up with defund the police because you don't pay attention to things. it's the fund the police. for me, the people working this

movement, the black lives matter movement are actually interested in the infrastructure. if we look at the blue wave that happened when the midterm elections happened, i'm hoping those people in the streets run for office because that's how true change hamgs. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> the president is banking on the start of his re-election campaign tomorrow night. van jones decided to check on it. >> reporter: in the industrial heart lapd of ohio, scott fights a life long democrat who voted republican for the first time in 2016. along with his three sos, he helped to put donald trump in

office. nearly four years ago, this is how he explained his vote. >> there's two different ways to look at some of the things he said that really hurt a lot of peels feelings on a racial line. one will say, well, if he said it, i like it and i'm voting for him because of it. why did it make you vote against him? >> because we hear it and we crumble it up and throw it away and doesn't allow us to make our gem decisions on what we're going to do to provide for our family. >> uh-huh. >> we completely ignore that crap, that garr damage and we see what he has to provide for us outside of that. >> this is scott today. you think he's done a good job with this protest movement coming out of these police problems? >> well, i think he handled it like an arrogant businessman that he is. he's showing lack of compassion for people and what he did out

in front of the church and making those folks move with smoke bombs and tear gas or whatever it was just so he can get to that vista and have that shot of him holding that bible, that was about the last straw for a lot of folks. >> from ohio to michigan which also helped to elect trump. just before the president took always, i met lesley curtis, a life long republican who voted for obama in 2008 and trump in 2016. >> what did obama do to disappoint you in the first term that you wouldn't vote for him again? >> well, the disappointment came when he didn't address black america. to me, the agenda was focused directly on the lgbtq community and immigration and baker. whenever you're the first black anything you have to put it on the line and i don't feel that obama did. >> today, lesley approves of pruch's handling of this crisis.

>> is it your view that we've got a serious problem in terms of law enforcement and how they treat armstrongings or do you think it's overblown? how do you see it? >> i've had the opportunity to witness black and white police officers abusing their power, so i don't say that it's so much a systemic issue overall but i think it's a bad cop issue. of course, what happened to george floyd was a tragedy, it was sad. as a black man it's hard to watch things like that and not have some type of emotion about it. when you say a specific, it takes the responsibility away from the individual who committed the crime. >> on to west virginia, cool country. just after president trump took office i met allen, a proud vaurnl and a coal miner. you got people hanging by a thread and they're putting their faith in donald trump. they're down to nothing.

>> uh-huh. >> their jobs are gone, their health care is there, they're trying to push that opioid away. tell the president -- speak to them -- to the president. >> mr. president you're the most unconventional candidate. in your open words, if you do not deliver, you're fired. >> allen, today. >> what is your verdict snoo has he delivered or is he fired? >> he's been deliver as much as he's allowed to move, we'll say that much. i think he's done fine. i think what he's done has been proportionate. >> what do we want? >> and they said he sports protests. what the president and mooid and many others do not support is when somebody high jacks a lawful protest and turns it into some of the things you've been seeing playing out at night. allen says he'll vote for trump.

lesley. >> so you still support him today? >> yeah, of course i do. even scott. if the election were held tomorrow and biden versus trump, who do you vote for? >> trump. >> you vote for trump right now? >> i dislike biden that much and don't feel he's going to he'd our country. i only support him about 10%. trump's only about 25%. >> three states, three voters, but one candidate they all still support. van jones, cnn. >> checking with voters. up next, one-on-one, a trvrgs with trevor noah, he gives his take on race relation and missing america from a unique perspective, someone who grew up in apartheid in south africa. on! [conference phone] has joined the call. hey baloney here. i thought this was a no by-products call? land o' frost premium. a slice above.

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