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the trump rally returns. >> we are the party of abraham lincoln and we are the party of law and order. >> high intensity, and high risk. >> as an american, that's my right, that's what i love about this country. >> plus, team trump insists the coronavirus is fading. the case counts tell us it is not. >> the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. it is dying out. >> the pandemic is not done with us. we have got to change course. >> and add charges in the
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rayshard brooks shooting to the national debate over race and policing. >> we are tired. and we are frustrated, most importantly we're heart broken. >> we need to hold them accountable and we can't stop fighting. we're hurt and broken, but we can't stop fighting. >> welcome to "inside politics." i'm conjijohn king. thank you for sharing your sunday. the trump rally is back, not quite the crowd the president was expecting. >> the unhinged left wing mob is trying to vandalize our history, desecrate our monuments, our beautiful monuments. they want to demolish our heritage so they can impose their new oppressive regime in its place, they want to defund and dissolve our police departments, think of that. >> more on the politics and the public health risk in tulsa in a moment. but we begin with a law and order question. because two crises are apparently not enough for this
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president. the president on saturday fired a top federal prosecutor, a prosecutor known to be investigating people close to the president. perhaps even the president himself. >> it is all up to the attorney general, attorney general barr is working on that. that's his department. not my department. but we have a very capable attorney general. so that's really up to him. i'm not involved. >> that from the president is simply not truthful. president's own aides tell us he signed off on the firing. it was geoffrey berman who put long time trump attorney and fixer michael cohen behind bars and his prosecutors are known to be pursuing questions about the trump family business and about the dealings of trump attorney rudy giuliani and several giuliani associates. democrats in congress now promise immediate scrutiny. the house speaker nancy pelosi says this firing cannot be explained by cause. and instead suggests base and improper motive. the president to fire berman and for the attorney general to support such a move is beyond
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extraordinary. and the timing makes it all the more remarkable and provocative. 19 weeks before the election, with president's poll numbers sagging and the country already under severe stress because of the stubborn coronavirus pandemic and the racialreckon ing triggered by the death of george floyd. joining us, maggie haberman "of the new york times," and douglas brinkley, historian. maggie, we had this conversation many times. this is the third rail and the president is not only touching it, grabbing it with two hands. firing a prosecutor, known to be looking at people close to the president. >> john, you know this better than anyone, the silence from republicans in congress right now says a lot about how dangerous it is. the president has been talking for a long time to a small group of advisers, not everybody who walks into the oval office, about his dissatisfaction with
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geoffrey berman. geoffrey berman, his office was involved in the search of an office. it was then the press has been frustrated with him. he wanted berman to unrecuse and take it back over. that didn't happen. the timing still remains something of a mystery. also why the president yesterday denied he had something to do with this when everybody knows he has something to do with this and has been candid with a lot of advisers about it. whether he faces political blowback or whether the country has become -- making these kinds of moves we're going to find out. the silence from republicans is notable. >> you once worked in this office, your take is that number one it is extraordinary and it shouldn't happen, but number two, the way it played out, the attorney general trying to fire mr. berman, asked had time resign, he said i'm not going anywhere. he had to go back to the president and get a letter to sign off an actual presidential
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firing to force him out. instead of getting the person they wanted in charge, now they get the deputy in charge. you think they bungled this in a way that makes it more complicated. >> i think it was badly mishand mishandled, all the back and forth, the friday night statement saying bill barr lied to the american public about what happened, now not only do they end up with audrey strauss supervising many of these cases anyway, but they caused a lot of us to think, wait a minute, what are they so afraid of. let's think about what is going on at southern district and what might be happening in the next few months to cause everyone to be concerned about it at the white house. and maybe more importantly, i think they energized the prosecutors of the southern district because if i was there right now, one thing i would be doing in the upcoming weeks is booking the grand jury, maybe thinking about unsealing some thing s doing everything i cou to make sure it is free from
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partisan influence. i think they have actually like likely we're likely to learn more about that is going on behind doors. >> help me with the moment. we can show a headline to our viewers, "the new york times," october 1973, this is not richard nixon firing archibald cox, but it is a big deal, a president intervening with a prosecutor, using his powers, using presidential powers to intervene with a prosecutor that he simply does not like. put this in context for us. >> well, absolutely, rings the richard nixon bell of cover-up. nixon had his famous saturday night massacre, october 1973, that was the determine coined by art bookwald, and david brodeur made popular. it was a string of events and nixon and cover-up mode, he added attorney general elliott richardson fire wanted him --
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richardson nixon did fire archibald cox, the special prosecut prosecutor, richardson no, asai ruckleshouse refused, bork, robert bork got in the third person at justice and did fire cox, but they had to put in leon jaworski as special prosecutor and in the last ten days after that saturday night massacre you started having the hearings on watergate and that's when the famous nixon tapes were revealed and it was the beginning of the end of richard nixon. a president would only do what nixon did and what donald trump's doing now is if they were deeply fearful about what was going to come out of that new york district attorney -- what knowledge they had and he bungled it. i think he was full of hubris over tulsa, believed weigh ed going to have two giant rallies
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packed with people, a love fest, it was a tepid rally, didn't accomplish very much for him and he's stuck with this headline which is going to fester between now and november. and if he got re-elected, may lead to a second impeachment if the democrats continue to hold congress. >> we need to be careful, there is a lot we don't know. we know mr. berman, leaving office now, he's free to testify, if democrats call him up on capitol hill. we know that his trusted deputy will be in charge because of the way bill barr tried to handle this over the weekend, not working out that way, and we know a few things about it. this is the office that put michael cohen behind bars. the office that put chris collins a key trump ally in jail. it is investigating right now giuliani associates, lev parnas and igor fruman charged, more investigations there, deutsche bank, a lot of dealings with the trump family business, there are a lot of land mines here, the question is, you know, what was it that provoked the president to decide i'm going to force this guy out? >> we don't know yet, john.
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i would love to speculate as you know about things that are still evolving, small group of people who were involved in this decision in the first place, to your point, the way this was done was so botched, geoffrey berman was able to say no, i'm not leaving and essentially make sure that the person he wanted to leave the office is still leading the office, which you saw lindsey graham sign off on last night after lindsey graham, head of the judiciary committee in the senate was not happy with how things had gone the previous day. i think you'll learn a lot more in the coming days, if the level of alarm by the president and some of his advisers yesterday in how much blowback they were getting is shocking, considering how many times this president has walked up to a third rail. but there was an enormous amount of surprise how poorly this went. i'll say one thing, john, this is a real reminder whatever skills they believe he has, he -- he did not try harder to
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say to the president this will end poorly, he did not say to the president, this is not a prosecutor who i can bargain with to get him to take a different job. it is on him. >> it is on him. great point to make. jennifer rodgers, one thing we do know here, we lost jennifer rodgers, one thing we do know here is that among the investigations under way in the southern district of new york is this turkish bank close to president erdogan of turkey, a key trump ally, authoritarian leader the president has taken sides with, this is john bolton, the president's former national security advisers, this is one area he covers in his new book. >> the president said to erdogan at one point, look. those prosecutors in new york are obama people. wait until i get my people in and then we'll take care of this. i thought to myself, and i'm a department of justice lalumnus myself, i never heard any president say anything like that. ever. it did feel like obstruction of justice to me.
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>> it is, doug, to borrow a phrase, that's one of the president's men. i know they had a testy relationship in the beginning. that's somebody who worked deep inside the white house saying he saw things from the president that were way beyond the line. >> i think that revelation out of the bolton book has legs. for the ren have you're suggesting. this whole idea on a friday night before a big rally, firing of geoffrey berman, it just wreaks of trouble. we all know that donald trump was -- ran a shady businesses in new york. and we all know that rudy giuliani was going around the world doing bag work basically for the president. and now the person that was looking into it is being booted aside. i do think you're going to have some senate republicans, maybe this is wishful thinking, that are really not going to tolerate this. we'll have to see how if lindsey graham can do anything, for example, and speak up, he was caught by surprise, but i think the calculation of donald trump
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is, yes, it is an election year, and republicans stood by me through my impeachment woes in the senate, and they're not going to have time to beat up on me when all of these gop candidates are trying to get elected, so maybe the republicans will just stay firm with me, and the media will blow this story away, we'll denounce the bolton book and talk about berman was just not good in his job and they might try to roll around all of this. but it is going to be tough. >> this is another crisis of its own making, in the early pages. thank you. as we move on, up next, dying and fading, word the president uses to describe the coronavirus. but four states had record case counts just on saturday, including florida. volkswagen today. you'll get 2 years or 20,000 miles of scheduled carefree maintenance. 3 years or 36,000 miles of 24/7 roadside assistance.
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president's big rally last night sends the obvious signal he doesn't think the coronavirus is worth the worry anymore. but six trump campaign staffers on hand there in tulsa tested positive for coronavirus just before the rally. if that isn't enough to make you believe the virus is still very much a crisis, there is more, a lot more. let's look at some of the numbers. number one, the trend map, 23 states, orange and red, that means they're trending in the wrong direction. more cases reported this week than last week. ten of those states more than 50% of those cases this week than last week. not the only way to judge it, orange and red is not a good thing. record highs in 14 states. again, president says it is fading, the president says it is going away, 14 states reported record highs in their case count. if you look at it by looking at the seven-day moving average of
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the case counts, cases mostly across the south and out in the west. let's look asot some of the pacific states. see the reopening, this is the key juncture in the reopening here. restaurants, theaters, gyms can reopen. oklahoma flat line in recent days, see the trend, that's not the right direction you want to be going, plain and simple. going up there, the state of florida even more, bigger state, more populous state of, troubling numbers of late. you can trace the various steps in the reopening process, south florida counties which went later, they had a bigger problem in recent days, florida reporting day after day after day of daily case records of coronavirus as it heads up. look at it this way, we talked now for four months about flattening the curve, right? you see the big peak in the united states in march. and, yes, the curve has been flattened, dropped somewhat. that was the goal, if your goal is to flatten the curve, it is flattened. we're flattened between 20 and 25,000 new cases a day. look, in contrast to the european union. european union countries, peaked
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before the united states. just a couple of weeks before the united states. look what happened. not only did the european union flatten the curve, the u.s. experience up here still, the president looks at this, the vice president looks at this and says all is fine. >> if you look, the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. it is is dying out. by the way, we're doing very well on vaccines and therapeu c therapeutics also. >> proud to report to you as head of the white house coronavirus task force, we slowed the spread. we flattened the curve. we cared for the most vulnerable and we saved lives. >> with us this sunday to share their expertise, dr. ashish jha, dr. megan ranney, emergency room physician and researcher at brown university. dr. jha, simple question, is this fading? is this dying as the president says? >> you know, john, we all wish it were the case. but unfortunately what we are
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seeing is a resurgence in many parts of country. it is -- we have to remember we are early days in this pandemic. not only is it not fading out, this will be with us for at least another 12 months and that's the most optimistic scenario for having a vaccine. unfortunately it is not fading away and in many parts of the country it is only getting worse. >> dr. ranney, one of the challenges, we all knew this was going to be a long slog, good days and bad days, good weeks and bad weeks. welcome to human beings making decisions in a tough time. part of it is the question of leadership. we can show you some scenes from the rally last night, the president deciding he was going to go forward with this, you don't see a lot of masks there, do you, people inches from each other, shoulder to shoulder, four, five, six, seven hours on end. the president wanted to send the signal all is well, even though the tulsa health director said please don't do this to my city
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right now. dr. ranney, can you hear me? >> sorry. yes. so as a public health -- sorry, john, i lost you for a second, as a public health professional, this is terrifying. to see the president bring together people in flagrant opposition to the recommendations of public health, directors and physicians across the country, we know that having people in close spaces for long periods of time is the worst thing you can do in terms of spread of this virus. and as dr. jha mentioned, we're seeing spread of the virus across the country, rising case counts, rising hospitalizations, including in oklahoma, we worry this will be a super spreader event. and i know that the arena was only about a third full last night, but unfortunately that did not seem to be because of social distancing. as you showed those folks were packed together, we know that six of the trump associates
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tested positive for covid. if there were a couple of cases in the arena last night, we're going to most likely see a spread among folks that attended. and then they're going to go back to their states and it will spread further. >> the president didn't talk all that much about the virus or the pandemic last night. he said he saved lives, he acted early and decisively when he limited travel. one thing he did say, the white house says this was a joke, but we know when we show those maps, show the rising case counts, the president gets annoyed. here was his take. >> here is the bad part. when you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people. you're going to find more cases. so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. they test and they test. we had tests, people don't know what's going on. we got tests. we got another one over here. the young man is 10 years old, he's got the sniffles, he'll recover in about 15 minutes. that's a case.
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>> again, they say the president is joking, but is this a time for jokes? >> i don't think the president is joking. it is very consistent with the policy we have seen coming out of the white house. and an effort to not put too much effort and time into ramping up testing. and this is incredibly frustrating for the millions of americans who have gotten sick, and have not been able to get tests. has got to be incredibly frustrating for people who lost family members in nursing homes because we haven't been able to test nursing home residents and workers, meatpacking plant workers. this is not a joke. it led to more than 100,000 americans having died and largely because we have not built up the testing infrastructure that our country needs. >> the question is the challenge before us now. i want to put a map up and show you some data from cubic which tracks the data. if you look at this, mobility index, most states, look at the scale on the left of the screen
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there, most states are more mobile than they were a year ago and those states in lighter orange, 0 to 2% down, just down a little bit from a year ago. people are getting out, being more active. the question is how are they behaving when they do so. and we talked about the president, and the questions of whether he is setting the right tone. the governor of the state of nebraska telling people -- telling local governments you won't get federal aid. you won't get federal aid that comes through the states if you require your residents to wear masks. what does that tell you? >> it sends such a wrong message. what we could be doing in our country at this point is what we have seen in other countries, in europe, south korea and elsewhere, japan, sending consistent public health messages about the importance of wearing a mask, maintaining physical distancing when possible and trying to stay outside, especially during these beautiful summer months that we're all having. instead, by telling people they don't have to wear a mask, we're
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basically facilitating the spread, we are promulgating an anti-science viewpoint and setting ourselves up for not just a bad summer, but much worse fall, which is when many of us see the so-called second wave coming. we have not made it through the first wave yet. without good public health practices, we're going to see a worse second wave. i just wish people would follow the evidence and the science to help protect americans. >> dr. ranney, dr. jha, grateful to have you come on this sunday morning to help with facts and expertise. thank you so much. >> thank you. the return of the valley including this blatant lie about why so many seats are empty. >> we had some very bad people outside. we had some very bad people outside. they were doing bad things. to deliver your mail and packages and the peace of mind of knowing that essentials like prescriptions are on their way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you.
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president trump was back on the rally stage for the first time in nearly four months last night. tulsa, oklahoma, the venue. law and order was a frequent trump theme. as the president suggested, the protests taking place across the country are a risk to your safety and your prosperity. >> we are the party of law and orbit. americans have watched left wing radicals burn down buildings, loot businesses, destroy private property, injure hundreds of
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dedicated police office. the chaos you're seeing in our democratic-run cities, these are all run by the democrats, is what will happen in every city and community in america and much, much worse if we don't keep them out. we have to do this. >> the president ignored public health experts in holding the rally. most of his supporters inside were not wearing masks despite being shoulder to shoulder with others for hours. the president was clearly energized and the crowd was enthusiastic, still, the return was not everything the president had hoped for. during the week, he said a million people wanted to come. there was plenty of open space inside the arena and plans for the president to speak first at an outdoor overflow site were canceled because only a couple dozen people were waiting out there. with us, erin haines, maggie haberman, and jeff zeleny as well. erin, what struck you most about the message? i was listening to it and it was
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dark. it was fear. it was joe biden is captive of these lunatics as the president says out in the street and only i can teep you safe. >> yeah, i agree with you. i think a lot of what we heard last night shows, listen, president trump is consistent, so much of what we heard last night was what we have been hearing since he first came down that escalator five years ago this month. messages of law and order, once again, embracing law enforcement while condemning the protests as chaotic and calling his supporters warriors, boasting about the federal judges and supreme court justices he's been able to get, touting his record with african-americans, touting that the progress he's made on trade and tax cuts and really warning of the specter of the return of american carnage he talked about when he was, you know, giving his inauguration speech. the question, though, i think is going to be for november, how
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much has america changed since 2016? and how many voters are still on board with a lot of the things that he continues to embrace? i think that the real question joe biden certainly seems to suggest that this is about the soul of america, saying this is not who we are, but this is who president trump is if we don't know that by now. it is just a matter of how many voters are comfortable with supporting him, you know, he touted the return of recovering economy possibly, is that going to be enough to overcome voters who may have been comfortable in 2016 with voting for the things that he was saying, tweeting and doing? >> and maggie, not a president speaking from a position of strength, he might dispute that. if you look at the polling, from a fox news poll this woke and the president says phenomenfox wacky polls, it is nowhere near
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where he led last year. well below where he was in 2016. or you can flip it over and look at it this way, joe biden leading among constituencies, men, white, college, suburban, over the age of 45, donald trump carried in 2016. so the president, if you're -- if he seems to be -- he's always been all about the base, now has to be worried about his base. >> that's exactly right. he has been worried about his base for several weeks. we have seen his numbers have softened. his numbers with senior citizens, a group he won by a lot in 2016, he's now losing to joe biden. that is making him dig into the tactics he has been using since the campaign in 2015. he has shown an inability over time, over and over to grow his support. that's still the case. and to your point he's seeing it erote among the people who have been with him last time. he did not take that stage last
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night from a position of -- was it supposed to be something of a campaign reset. a year ago in orlando, the president had a kick off rally. they were describing it as that. there was a crowd. it was loud. it was not close to the numbers they were told they were to have. the president was very upset when they canceled an outdoor event, when he looked out the at the arena last night. >> trump's comeback valley featurally features empty seats. the president won't like that. jeff zeleny, what we have, all elections about choices, the contrast is striking. i want you to listen to the president last night describing his view of joe biden.
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>> joe biden surrendered to his party. and to the left wing mob. if the democrats gain power, then the riders will be in charge and no one will be safe and no one will have control. joe biden is not the leader of his party. joe biden is a helpless puppet of the radical left. >> the first campaign ad from the biden campaign came out this week and listen here, jeff, a very different message. >> the country is crying out for leadership. leadership that can unite us, leadership that brings us together. that's what the presidency is. the duty to care. i won't traffic in fear and division. i won't fant fla the flames of . >> the president almost -- i don't know if biden can win on that message, but the president played into it he didn't mention his own police reform proposals,
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executive order it was all about fear, things you have to worry about, not more positive things he's trying to do. >> it was. the rally last night we're going to see recriminations in the days ahead, no question. the president is indeed not pleased by how it turned out. it may have been a giant gift to the biden campaign. not just in the empty seats that doesn't matter. the reality is there enough trump supporters in oklahoma to fill a giant rally. the question is they had judgment to not go to this during a pandemic. the bigger issue is the words that the president was speaking about, you know, too much testing, slowing it down. that already is an ad this morning by some democratic super pac groups. the president is getting in his own way in many of these respects here. i think the bigger picture here, i spent time in wisconsin this week, the protests and the summer unrest and the unease has awakened something that was not there four years ago. that is a significant worry for the trump campaign.
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and it should be. there were people who did not vote for hillary clinton who are motivated now to vote against president trump. not necessarily with excitement for joe biden, but that is just fine. they are motivated to vote against president trump. that is a challenge for the trump campaign going forward. and it was a gift last night for the biden campaign, we're going to hear a lot of the president's words over and over again in campaign ads, and other things. he's traveling this week as well. it is hard to imagine him resetting the reset, i guess, if you will. >> and one thing i guess that should not be a surprise, but does jump out, the social unrest that george floyd killing, rayshard brooks killing, people marching in the streets, the president playing old cards if you will. the president talking about ilhan omar, controversial, said this anti-semitic things, congresswoman from minnesota, very limited input to the joe biden campaign, but if you listen to the president last night, she's everything and
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she's a threat. >> ilhan omar is going to be very much involved in a biden government. she would like to make the government of our country just like the country from where she came, somalia, no government, no safety, no police, no nothing. just anarchy and now she's telling us how to run our country. no thank you. >> that is not morning in america. that is not an incumbent giving an optimistic give me four more years. >> but, again, using the key words that really animate his base invoking talking about alexandria ocasio-cortez and her threat to the gains he made in terms of the environment, saying she could be a threat to that, and then, yes, mentioning ilhan omar as you mentioned, who is marking the first father's day
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without her father, who died of coronavirus just recently, and so, you know, these are the kind of signals he has sent out as a sign from his base he's the one that can protect their way of life, he mentions our heritage last night and that's a contrast to what you see the vice president biden, the democratic nominee saying in his latest ad. i know a lot of voters i talk to talk about their vote in november being a survival vote. it is going to be interesting to see how many americans are casting a vote in november in rejection of this president and the divisive tone he's setting and the racial playbook he's invoking over the next few months. >> 19 weeks from tuesday, here before you know it. 19 weeks from this coming tuesday is that choice. appreciate your reporting. up next for us, aunt jemima is retired.
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black lives matter, choosing instead to tell an interviewer all lives matter. and the president sees a threat, not long overdue progress. >> the unhinged left wing mob is trying to vandalize our history, desecrate our monuments, our beautiful monuments. if you want to save that beautiful heritage of ours, we have a great heritage, we're a great country, you are so lucky i'm president, that's all i can tell you. >> with us this sunday, the lieutenant governor of wisconsin, mandela barnes. governor barnes, are we so lucky when you hear the president of the united states as a young black man, emerging black leader, do we need to protect our heritage by re-electing president trump? >> i never feltunlucky and the heritage he's talking about is the heritage of the confederacy. which is appropriate. he ran a campaign based on the
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same ideas of race and hatred and plans to govern the same way and goes to re-election the same way. to see the monuments come down is symbolism that he sees his own campaign, his own administration follow. >> so help me with context. i think it is important that we listen. especially white men like myself at this moment. i assume it is a great thing from your perspective, when a company says quaker oats says aunt jemima, no, racial stereotype gone, companies say let's make juneteenth a paid holiday, when you see these steps, they're progress, but how big of a deal? help me with context. >> there couldn't be a better time. couldn't be a better time for someone in your position to learn about that is going on, about history, why we are where we are as a nation and experiencing the reckoning that we're experiencing. but on the other end, you mentioned how much progress, i think that door is wide open
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because people are awakened to the extreme injustices that have taken place over the last 400 year since the shores of jamestown, virginia, 400 years ago. i think you got a whole lot to make up and it is going to take more than a year, more than one presidential administration to make black people in america whole again. but, we know that as long as that doesn't happen, everybody is going to deal with it as a result. i try to -- wisconsin is a predominantly white state. every time i travel, i try to, you know, talk about these issues in the context of the impact of the impact of racial injustice on every community. because it is a very real thing. but people don't always understand when we have a criminal justice system that disproportionately impacts black and brown people in america, that's money that comes out of your school system, we're spending a billion and a half dollars on prisons, that's money that isn't going to go to fund
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neighborhood services, not going to go to fund other vital programs that keep communities strong. the door is wide open for progress. we have to shoot for -- we have to shoot past it, shoot for another galaxy when it comes to what we should be looking for in terms of stabilization of this country because that's what it is all about. >> one of the voices we heard as part of this debate this past week was rayshard brooks who talked about the criminal justice system you just mentioned in an interview conducted a couple of months before he was shot and killed. listen. >> just feel like some of the system could, you know, look at us as individuals, we do have lives, you know, just a mistake we made, you know. and, you know, not just do us as if we are -- >> what goes through your mind when you hear that ?
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>> it is difficult to hear that because it is a humanity question. we're talking about human rights n . these are figures in american history that treated black people in america as animals. we're talking about shadow slavery here. and to hear despair and, you hear it in his voice, as a person who has made a -- who made a mistake, who wanted to do better this life, unfortunately too many people in our past prior to 1865 didn't get the chance to express their humanity. but donald trump wants to take us back down that road. this isn't even speculation, these are his words when he talks about our legacy. i'm not willing to go back to that, you see millions of americans rising up, see a diverse community, you see folks from all walks of life stepping up, they don't want to see it earth. that's the most optimistic or that brings me the most optimism
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in this whole movement is that everybody, clear as day what is going on, has gone on, it is also clear what we need to do to right these wrongs. >> appreciate your time this morning, we'll continue the conversation. >> a great time, thank you. >> thank you, sir. up next, tulsa's big weekend, the trump rally, a spike in coronavirus cases. volkswagen today. you'll get 2 years or 20,000 miles of scheduled carefree maintenance. 3 years or 36,000 miles of 24/7 roadside assistance. 4 years or 50,000 miles bumper-to-bumper limited warranty. 5 years of connected services. and for 6 years you won't have paid any interest. down the road, you'll be grateful you bought a volkswagen today. stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq.
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tulsa is the middle of it all this weekend. a city with deep racial scars marking juneteenth. a city setting daily records for new coronavirus cases, nonetheless, seeing its streets and its big arena crowded with protesters and rallygoers. a city picked by president tr p trump. cnn reporters right there in the thick of it.
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>> reporter: i'm giry in the outside area where president trump was expected to make a speech on that stage before the inside speech. but there weren't enough people here. so that was canceled. very few people were wearing masks. their temperatures were taken. they were offered masks but they didn't have to take them. and very few ended up wearing them. president trump, of course, did not have a mask. but he also didn't have to stand in the arena for five or six hours before the event started. >> this has been a tough week for tulsa. >> i'm just tense about everything. i'm tense about just where we are in the state of this world. i'm tense about how black people have been treated. >> reporter: a tense week for many of the residents here who have been bracing themselves for tens of thousands of people to converge on this city for president trump's rally. now, those numbers were not exactly what people expected. but when you look at the message that president trump delivered in that arena, he talked about what he has done for black
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americans economically. but he also called protesters thugs. he talked about defending, quote, our heritage and referring to those confederate symbols that are being taken down all across the country. this seems to be exactly what many residents here told me they were dreading. >> trying to vandalize our history. desecrate our monuments, our beautiful monuments. [ crowd booing ] >> tear down our statues. >> reporter: i'm inside the bok center where the president just finished speaking. >> it's after the whole quarantine ordeal has basically been concluded. i'm really looking forward to this. this is a celebration of basically his campaign. and i want to be under the same building as our president. >> reporter: the president hoping to pack this place, bring at least 20,000 people. they fell far short of that. the president blaming that on a number of different things. he said there were protesters
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outside preventing people from coming in. we didn't see reports of that. and then also our coverage of the coronavirus. we'll have to see if voters respond as his campaign kicks back off. >> that's it for us this sunday. hope you can catch us weekdays as well. up next, jake tapper. thanks again for sharing your sunday. have a good day. ♪ ♪ we've always put safety first. ♪ ♪ and we always will. ♪ ♪ for people. ♪ ♪
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