hello. i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing this very packed news day. up next this hour, a police reform package in the u.s. senate. democrats say that bill is not val vajab salvageable and they'll block the measure. it will decrease the odds those protests in the streets actually produced action here in washington dealing with police misconduct. voters are looking for something different. the president's win streak is over. the candidate he backed in a house race lost yesterday to a 24-year-old. progressive wins in new york

will -- the biggest election year factor is the number you see there on the top of your screen. 121,000 americans now perished from the coronavirus. the president says the virus is fading away. the numbers tell us something very different. a check of the map shows 26 states now recording more cases this week than they did last week, and this is important. the average of new cases each day just below the 30,000 threshold right now. that is very close to the pandemic level we were counting every day back in april. the president places the increase on testing and dismisses the value to guide the pandemic response. first breaking this morning in the back and forth legal fight over the michael flynn case. the d.c. circuit court of appeals a short time ago ordering judge emmett sullivan to dismiss the case. sullivan said he wanted to vet the justice department's decision to drop the decision against the former trump national security adviser. the president giving his nod of approval on twitter.

evan perez now. why did the circuit court say sorry, judge, let it go. >> this is a 2-1 decision from the appeals court, john and what they're saying is essentially that this is the business of the justice department. the justice department is the one that has the discretion to bring charges and they also have the discretion to say that they no longer want to have those charges go forward. so what these two judges, including their opinion was written by naomi rao who was appointed by president trump. i'll read you a part of what she wrote. she said this is not an unusual case, where it's justified and individually and general flynn who had pled guilty twice before judges lying to the fbi in this case has now asked to take back that plea and the justice department after a couple of years of pursuing the case and supporting the prosecution now

says that there were mistakes made and that the case should never have been brought and so this is where we are. we don't know whether or not this case will be appealed. again, it's a 2 -1 ruling and i a case like this where it's essentially ordering the judge to dismiss the case, it's not clear if he'll fight this anymore than he already has. >> evan perez, the president's trying to celebrate that and we will see how it plays out. let's go to florida, one of the states experiencing what dr. fauci calls a dangerous coronavirus surge. new numbers just out and our rosa flores is live in miami. >> reporter: john, here we are. you and i talking about florida breaking their own record of the number of infections per day. the new number for today, 5,511. this breaks the record from friday which was 4,049. again, the state of florida, these numbers keep rising.

we keep on talking about how the number of infections is rising and the number of hospitalizations is also rising. the latest number posted by the florida department of health. 5,511 cases which brings the number of total cases here in the state of florida here to 109,014. this as governor ron desantis continues to dig in his heels saying it's not going to shut down the economy and that he is not going to require masks to be worn statewide. we've learned of a letter that was written and sent to governor ron desantis by various lawmakers trying to encourage him to require masks statewide. locally, we do know that in miami-dade county and in palm beach county, commissioners and also local mayors making it a law and regulation here that you must wear a mask when you're out in public and this, of course, because of the staggering numbers and this area of the

state, southeast florida is the epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic in this state. we just looked at the numbers released from miami-dade county alone, and if you just look at those numbers the positive iterate in the doub iterate 25%, in miami-dade county two weeks ago that number was 9%. the number of hospitalizations is up 42% in miami-dade county again. this is what we've been hearing from experts, john, that these numbers continue to rise and that something must be done because they do continue to increase, and again, breaking news here out of florida is that florida breaks its record, again, the latest number of covid-19 infections, 5,511 in just one day. john? >> and i want to stick with you, rosa, to follow up on this point because there are a lot of people out there including some politicians who say stop

focusing on the case count that that doesn't tell you everything. it doesn't tell you everything, but it does tell you something. when you have record after record after record it has a touch of concern. you touched on two key points as you connect the dots. the hospitalizations are up. the percent of positivity in the testing heading up in the dangerous direction and it's when you combine those packers and when you talk about managing versus an epidemic that's about to spr to spread perhaps out of control. >> reporter: we talked to experts that say you can't focus on the economy when there is a public health issue. jackson health, one of the largest health systems here in the state of florida is releasing that in the past 15 days, they have seen a 101% increase in the number of covid-19 patients. again, these numbers are staggering. we continue to see regardless of

what portion you look at and how you break down these numbers, they're all pointing in the same direction. there are more infections and it's not just that they're increasing testing and more people are infected and more people are getting this virus and it's spreading. yes, governor ron desantis acknowledged that it was not an increase in testing and it is indeed, younger people out and about that are not social distancing and they are not wearing masks and that is how this virus is spreading in the state of florida. now add that to the concern the fact that these young people do not live in a bubble. they work with other individuals that are a little older. they live with individuals that are older. their parents and grandparents and that is a huge concern from experts and we talked to experts here, john, who say they don't know how else to express it other than something has to be done because these numbers keep growing and unless -- unless lawmakers and unless the

governor does something to encourage people to do the basics which is just wear their masks. it will be difficult to control this virus. john? >> rosa flores, appreciate the critical importance as we watch florida dealing with the crisis. thanks so much. i'm sure they'll be at it again tomorrow. there's bad news for the president who we know that's frustrated in recent days. another poll shows him trailing joe biden by joe biden. lisa nair of "the new york times" and cnn's john harwood. i want to start, ladies and gentlemen, and put the coronavirus in context because the president yesterday was in phoenix, also a state. arizona is a state this week like florida reporting 50% increase in its cases this week versus last week. listen to the president speaking in a room. could we show the pictures of the room? the president went into a church, there were a couple of people out there. the mayor said he was violating

the restrictions against having a big gathering in the middle of covid. you see there, they're young supporters of the president and most not wearing masks and it is the remarks of the coronavirus the president says this. >> get all different names, wuhan, wuhan is catching on. coronavirus, right? kung flu. yeah. this is during, hopefully, the end of the pandemic. >> john harwood, you're at the white house. i want to start with you. is there anyone on the president's team who is worried that when you look at these rising numbers, that he just sounds out of touch to say the pandemic is ending. never mind the racist language he uses there. i can't -- i'll throw that aside, i probably shbouldn't, bt i'll throw that aside. texas is a trump state he needs to win. arizona is a state he needs to win. the people who live there,

whether they're democrats and republicans that are in between and they know what's happening and the president sounds like he's clueless. >> the president is clueless, but he's the president and he can say what he wants and in fact, john, that clip that you just played encapsulates the irrationality of his position and the depth of his problems and both the making light of the coronavirus and the appeal to racism, we have two major crises in the united states right now. the coronavirus pandemic and a crisis in race relations brought on by the aftermath of the george floyd killing. it shows that 60% of the american people disapprove of his handling of both of those things and he is determined to stick with the formula that he thinks could possibly work for him, but it's not working for him and you mentioned in the conversation with rosa that

politicians say don't focus on the testing because that's -- don't focus on the case counts because that's misleading. what they need to focus on is the fear of the american people and the new york times poll say the majority of the americans say getting on top of the virus is more important than reopening the economy, and as a matter of fact, getting on top of the coronavirus is important to reopening the economy. president trump can't get his mind around that and that's why his problems are so deep right now. >> and again, we keep hearing it, hearing it, and hearing it and wearing a mask is a way to reopen the economy and a proven safety measure. the latest new york times-sienna poll. is the worst over with the coronavirus pandemic? 60% of republicans say yes. 31 say no and only 17% of republicans say yes, and 76% say

no. >> republicans who listen to the president say the worst of this is over. the issue there is if they let down their guard too much that could become a safety issue, a health issue. >> right. of course. the political issue here is public health experts tell us that the worst of it is over so the president will have to find some kind of message around this virus that acknowledges, as you point out, the reality that many americans are living in and continue to be living in. i think when i listened to the president in these two rallies which have been his big re-election events that we've seen in the past couple of weeks and that's been most striking to me is what he's not saying and there's no agenda for the second term and he doesn't have a clear line of attack against former vice president biden and those were what he did have during his first run. he had an agenda and it was build the wall and it was keep jobs at home and it was drain the swamp. it's not clear what he's telling

to americans for his second term particularly at a moment when people feel angry and uncertain and a lot of people are worried and feeling much less optimistic about the future of the country, but by the same token he doesn't have a clear-cut line of attack against biden. i'm old enough to remember when it was the president running on the economy and hunter biden and we aren't seeing that kind of clear messaging at all. >> we may get there in the next four months and i'll read you a quote from terry sullivan, a veteran republican strategist. terry is very colorful and he understands how to win big state, states that matter, florida, for example, a state he's worked many times. this is what he said about the president. he's not disciplined to focus that. he needs the constant quick fix of people loving him. mr. trump, continued mr. sullivan is the rod stewart of politicians. he may keep coming up with new materials and the fans just want to keep hearing "wake up maggie," so he keeps playing the same tune because he can't stand the thought of them not loving

his performance. he doesn't like to change. the president defied gravity in 2016 so we should be very careful about making absolute statements in 2020, but he just sounds so out of touch with the moment though he and his campaign team believe that the moment will change and he'll be in the right place come november or is there pressure on the president to change? >> he's starting to see some of his poll numbers that show him slipping significantly behind joe biden because he's stuck with the same strategy that had been so ill-suited for the moment and so ill-suited for a pandemic and some of the public polling that we're seeing is mirrored by the private polls that he has been shown by members of his campaign and they haven't been able to break through to him with the broader part of the message which is if you want the poll numbers to change, you need to be more disciplined and focused on the pandemic and getting it under control and not just declare victory and the president has tried to put the pandemic in the

rear-view mirror by declaring victory saying that if we don't have a vaccine or any therapeutic that this will go o way and everything will be fine and we'll see the case numbers go up and refute the idea that this is something that can be taken care of without proactive measures and i think members of the president's campaign know that he needs to turn the ship around and know that he needs to focus the message that's driven down and given the red meat that they like and they haven't been able to get that message to him and he seems to be focused on getting the adoration of his base at these big rallies. >> also to keep the support of his base because if you look deeply into these numbers he's declining among his base, john harwood, you see the president on twitter yesterday. it's a shame that congress doesn't do anything about the low lives that burn the american flags. it should be stopped now. >> i am not a fan of burning the american flag, but i am a fan of

the first amendment. of course, he's entitled to this opinion, but is that really what the president needs to be focused on when the economy is in the tank and we're in the middle of a pandemic and you have the racial reckoning across the country. really? >> obviously it's not what he should be focusing on, to take one moment of personal privilege, unlike lisa lair and terry sullivan, i'm old enough to remember that song it's maggie may, not "wake up, maggie," but in terms of the president and his message, look, he was elected in 2016 with the message of racial grievance. that's what he knows politically. racial conflict has been shot through his entire life as a business executive before he got into politics. he's going back to that message even though the country has changed. the country continues to become more diverse. the reaction to the george floyd

murder, the protests have had broad effects at the country, young white people are fleeing president trump and so he has not been able to adapt himself to the reality of america in 2020 and he's paying a big political price for that. >> we'll see as it rolls up and interesting moments where he just seems a step off. >> john harwood, and toluse, appreciate it very much. >> we do know message to both the president and the speaker of the house. y expensive skincare products to see dramatic results? try olay skin care. just one jar of micro-sculpting cream has the hydrating power of 5 jars of a prestige cream, which helps plump skin cells and visibly smooth wrinkles. while new olay retinol24... provides visibly smoother, brighter skin. for dramatic skincare results, try olay. and now receive 25% off your purchase at olay.com brand power. helping you buy better.

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may not know until next week which democrat gets to face off against mitch mcconnell. cnn's zjeff zeleny along with errol lewis. i want to start with you, help me understand. this is your home, new york, in 2018 it was alexandra ocasio-cortez to show us there was progression with ideological change and there were people trying to take her out. alexandra ocasio-cortes wins in a walk. and a pelosi key ally, he loses to a progressive challenger and we're still counting votes about carol lynn maloney, another key member of nancy pelosi's team and a longtime member of new york. put it in context for us and this has not been a great year for progressives until now and do they feel they've sent that ideological message again? >> they'll call it an

ideological message and i'll give you another, ethnicity. elliott engle, although he was there for 30 years and he was, in fact, a party stalwart from the moderate, central party apparatus, he also represented a most mostly non-white district at this point and that was a problem. that actually tracks with how aoc won her race in the first place. so you have a longtime, entrenched white male incumbent and you have a progressive and in this case, african-american challenger from a different part of the district and you know, the numbers just kind of fall into place taking nothing away from the progressive groups and the many progressive groups who put hundreds of thousands of dollars behind jamal bowman and the candidate who is leading elliott angle in the balloting, they nationalized the race, in effect and brought in a lot of outside money into that district and the results look pretty good. something similar happening with

carolyn maloney and her main challenger who is making a second run at her has sort of an ethnic base and comes from a different part of the district and represents southeast asians who, if he is successful, mr. patel would be the first southeast asian elected to the new york congressional delegation and there is a lot of outside pride and people regionally have been pouring money into this race because they want to see one of their own get into congress and that is a packer ther is a factor there, as well. >> democrats, it's an uphill fight with mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader in kentucky, and they thought they had a candidate and they had a progressive challenger close it. we're not going to know for a while, right? >> we're not. we do know that mitch mcconnell has won his primary, no surprise, winning some 87% 88% of the vote and he doesn't know who he'll be running against and

it will be one of two people, amy mcgrath the hand selected of democratic losers chuck schumer and others in washington and they believe she has the best chance, if not defeating mitch mcconnell giving him a run for his money. here in louisville that race has changed because of the rise of the candidacy of a state representative whose name is charles booker and he's from louisville and represents the west side of this city and he gained prominence as the political moment changed. this primary was scheduled initially to be on may 19th. since then there has been so much churn going on against police brutality, against racism in this country and certainly here in louisville and that gave rise to charles booker. he is a dynamic speaker, a dynamic leader and amy mcgrath had some missteps here. we do not know the outcome of this and amy mcgrath is narrowly leading because of the early returns, but it is going to be taking at least a week to

determine the absentee and mail-in vote. that was the majority of the votes here cast yesterday which is interesting. i talked to the republican secretary of state who agreed with absentee and mail-in ballots, and i asked him will you do that in november and we'll see what the pandemic is, john, and the pandemic has changed primaries so many ways as well as the mechanics of casting the votes and that's where we're not sure who won yet. we have to have patience in the time of pandemic voting. >> we'll have patience and one more quick one before we go, gentlemen. the president's streak is over and he likes to brag and it's not that big of a deal and he likes to brag about the fact that when he endorses candidates they'll win and the candidate in north carolina, he got 65% of the vote and 66% of the vote and he's 26 years old and he'll be able to take the seat in congress by the time the election happens and linda bennett was the candidate favored by the president of the united states and by mark

holder. hawthorne's victory marks the latest surprising victory of the republican winning the primary despite the preference of the president, and he won despite trump calling for him to be thrown out. errol, i don't want to make too big of a deal and he likes to brag about things and he's lost one of his cards. >> he certainly has lost one of his cards. it's an interesting marker. people who follows politics and no one follows them better than politicians and everyone is in it for themselves. they can follow trump, and they can know that voters like him a lot and in the end they'll do what's best for them and some of this is fading and this is with fund raising and with other factors that tell you that this is a president who is very much on the ropes and this is more of an indicator than anything else and frankly, it's an important one. >> we have a ways to go, but at this moment, you're right. >> to be clear, though --

>> this candidate -- >> but to be clear this candidate is someone who supports president trump and he will win that district. this will not affect the balance of power. this is more because he consolidated some of the eight other candidates who were in the runoff here and this is a dynamic, young, rising star here and motivational speaker. he'll support president trump, he said so today. >> the president will find a way to make him his friend now that he's won the primary. up next for us, more states requiring people to wear a mask and now james mattis weighing in in this new psa. >> and i am here to talk about that nasty little virus, covid. we got introduced to it about six months ago and it is clear this little bugger is not going away on its own. so let's wear those face coverings and let's work together on this to beat covid.

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coordinated plans really made a difference and there were no states that were handed a worst hand, if you will, when it started than our states. remember what happened. we had one of the highest infection rates because we had people coming from europe who brought the virus. they traced our virus in this region back to europe and we had a federal government that told us the virus was in china. it's in china, it's in china. it wasn't in china. it had left china and went to europe and then it came here from europe. january, february, march, 3 million europeans came into our region of the country, and they brought the virus and by the time we found out, by the time of federal government figured it out we had a viral spread through the community so we had the highest numbers to deal with

in the country, and you look at where we are now, we did a full 180 degrees. we went from the highest cases, the highest viral transmission rate to some of the lowest rates in the country. no one else had to accomplish as much as we had to accomplish in such a short period of time. no one else had to bend the curve as much as we had to bend the curve and when people take a quick breath and the political rhetoric dies down those are going to be the facts. so i applaud my colleagues for doing an extraordinary job. we now have to make sure that the rate continues to drop and that's what keeps me up at night and i'm sure it keeps them up at night so we have to make sure we're doing everything and we're diligent and our citizens are diligent. we also have to make sure the virus doesn't come in on a plane again. learned that lesson.

been there, done that. so we're announcing today a joint travel advisory. people coming in from states that have a high infection rate must quarantine for 14 days and we have a calibration for the infection rate and any state that goes over that infection rate that state will be subject to the quarantine. it's only for the simple reason that we worked very hard to get the viral transmission go down and we don't want to see it go up because people go into the region and they can literally bring the infection with them. it wouldn't be malicious or malevolent, but it would still be real, so we are jointly instituting the travel advisory today because what happens in new york happens in new jersey happens in connecticut, and i think it's right and i think it's smart, and i'm glad that we're doing it together and

we've done a lot of good things together and hopefully we're on the right side of this mountain and we'll continue to see the numbers go down and we'll continue to see the economic activity go up and with that, i'll turn it over to my neighbor, governor phil murphy. phil, thank you again for everything. thank you for what you've done not just for new jersey. thank you for what you've done for new yorkers. there's no doubt that our partnership has made it better for both states. so thank you very much, governor phil murphy. >> andrew, thank you. to echo your words of thanks and deepest appreciation for the partnership with you and with ned. you know, we live in the densest neighborhood in america. we've been clobbered by this virus. no region in the country has paid a bigger price with the loss of brothers and sisters.

we've lost just under 13,000 members of our new jersey family, new yorkers paid an enormous price. connecticut has paid a big price, as well, and i can't thank you enough for your partnership, guys. we need to do things right by inside the four walls in our respective states. we need the federal government, but boy, have we needed our neighbors and i can't thank you and governor lamont enough for your partnership in the spirit of team work in this extraordinary chapter in our states and our nation's history. >> listen, my echo is simple and this is a smart thing to do. we have taken our people, the three of us, these three states through hell and back, and the last thing we need to do right now is to subject our folks to another round and this virus is risky enough on its own in terms of the potential to flare back

up. so doing something common sense as this is to say to folks, listen, it's time for personal responsibility, if you've been in a state that has a high infection rate, do the right thing and that -- and that has taken 14 days in self-quarantining and it's the the right thing to do and it's the common sense thing to do and it's the responsible thing to do so i'm honored to be alongside my fellow governors today and support this notion wholeheartedly, and i know the details will come from our respective health departments on exactly what this mean, but it's a really smart, common sense step, particularly as we have, the three states have really broken the back of this virus. thank you again for everything and for having me today. >> thank you. thank you very much, governor murphy. and again, this, i do believe, we're all on the other side of the mountain, but we determine what happens. it's what our people do, it's our policies and it's not over

until it's over and it will help us all. thank you very much, phil. and our other colleague and partner, governor ned lamont from connecticut. governor, thank you very much for your partnership and thank you for your personal support and personal friendship, and nobody wanted to go through this and you see sometimes in life when the pressure is on and you see the best and the worst of people and society, and i think we saw that here, and one of the high points, one of the best facets that came out of this was strong people got stronger and strong relationships got stronger and new york and connecticut and new jersey really stood together and i want to thank you very much. governor ned lamont.

[ no audio ] >> technical glitch. can we get governor lamont back? one second for governor lamont. let me give you some details. oh! >> but it's not going to leave on a jet airplane. it only goes by working together with new york, new jersey and the other states and our region to make sure that we maintain the protocols and social distancing, the masks and everything that we have done successfully over the last few months to bring our positive iterate to less than 3%, and i've got to say, i'm blessed to have you guys as fellow governors as well as rhode island and massachusetts, the

northeast region has taken this seriously and that's allowed us as a region to power through and get our positive iteratity rate low. we are not an island. as we look across the country, we've not just seen spike, but real community spread, a better than 10% positivity rate in a number of these states that we're talking about right now, and if it was limited to the nursing homes or the prisons or something containable perhaps we would not be as concerned, but right now we're seeing places within the states where we have a positivity rate of 20%, 30%, 40% with people when travel, 18 to 35 who are maybe want at risk themselves, but are highly infectious. working with phil and andrew over the last week or two, we reluctantly came to the conclusion that this is what we've got to do to make sure

that our regions stay safe and our states stay safe as we make sure that we can safely get our businesses back and our schools back up and operating this fall and we'll be monitoring this carefully. we have the quarantine in place. we'll be doing publicity in social media and reaching out to the travel agents and doing everything we can to tell people, if you come to connecticut, you come to new york, you come to new jersey and you come safely and follow the protocols starting with the quarantine. andrew, phil, great being with you guys. >> same here. thank you very much, and hopefully we're on the other side and you'll stay on the other side. governor, thank you very much. ned, thank you. okay. let me give you more details on this and the infection rate formula will be 10 per 100,000 on the seven-day rolling average or 10% of the total population positive on a seven-day rolling

average. so any state that has an infection rate above that would require 14-day quarantine. as of today the states that are above that level are alabama, arkansas, arizona, florida, north carolina, south carolina, washington, utah, texas. that's as of today. the states themselves can change as the infection rate changes and we will update daily what states are above that infection rate, but as of today those are the states that are above the infection rate and again, it's just common sense and it's the spirit of community. if you're in a place that has a high infection rate we understand that, and we'll help you any way we can and we've been helpful in reaching out to every state across the nation, but we don't want to see the infection rate increase here after what we've gone through

and that's the 14-day quarantine. that is a uniform policy, of course, the three states and each state will be responsible for the enforcement of that policy within their state. let me give you a couple of other factses as we are here i day 116. that's the lowest level of hospitalizations we have seen since this nightmare began, and again, when i say we're on the other side of the mountain and i'm often talking to myself, but this is the mountain i'm talking about and and we are at the lowest level we have been on hospitalizations since this started. we paid a very dear price for it. our tests, we did 58,000 tests yesterday, the highest number of tests in the united states. without the test you don't know where you are, and we're at 1.1%

positive. you can see the testing by region and all of the regions are constant since the reopening including new york city which we're watching very carefully, but we watch it on a day-to-day basis and right now all of the numbers look good. we look at numbers by borough. we look at the hot spots in the boroughs and we know that there are some zip codes that are higher than other zip codes and we study those hot spot zip codes and the number of deaths is 17 today this is right about where the lowest numbers have ever been and again, that's more great news and again, we don't want to see these numbers

reverse. the numbers of lives lost is just about as low as it's ever been. all of the numbers are good. what we're doing works. our approach has been vindicated and the phased reopening by dataworks. i've said from day one, i think these days of handling it politically, that people had a political theory on how to deal with the virus. you can't have a political theory on how to deal with the virus. you can't. it's a virus. it doesn't respond to political theory. it responds to science and data, so we're going ahead with our metrics. >> you are listening to the governor of new york, andrew cuomo. we haven't done this in a while is listened to the coronavirus update. new york implementing along with its neighbor, new jersey and connecticut, what he called a travel advisory, a joint travel advisory between the three states. if you're coming from a state with a high positivity rate of

coronavirus there will be a 14-day quarantine for the three states. we were talking about how bad things were in new york, new jersey and connecticut. those states now among the best in terms of performance, in terms of lowering, and flattening the curve and lowering the positivity rate and the like. let's bring in our experts and dr. matthew is with us. it was striking and it was about new york, new jersey, connecticut, new england which was the leading on the bad side of this going up the hill. they are now in much better shape if you look at the map and if you look at the testing and the hospital zags. does this make sense? the governor listed and he said it's a rolling standard and as of today, the citizens of nine states would have to quarantine themselves including arizona, florida and texas which we all know are having what dr. fauci calls it a dangerous surge right now. >> john, always nice to be on

your show. listen, i was absolutely thrilled to listen to governor cuomo. that's exactly what we need as a leader. we need a leader who listens to the signs, who made sacrifices, who talked to his people on a daily basis and i'm actually really excited that he is going beyond that and not just celebrating early and saying, listen, we did all of the hard work and we don't want the virus back in our state. so we're going to impose this restriction and it makes total sense. certain countries in europe are doing that . in fact, they're talking about not even letting americans back into their continent. i commend governor cuomo in doing that and that is exactly the way to try to kill this virus. >> one of the things he said there without testing you don't know where you are. that's a very different message than we hear from the president of the united states. the president of the united states calls it a double-edged sword and he keeps saying he's not joking even though his staff said he never gave the order and

several times he's talked about asking for less testing so that the numbers don't look so bad. as a scientist and as a doctor, that's the backwards approach, right? >> exactly the backwards approach. i've gone from being frustrated to just mad. absolutely beside myself as a public health specialist, that's exactly the opposite what we're supposed to do. i'm a primary care physician, john. you if came to see me, how would i know if you have high blood pressure unless i check it or diabetes unless i check your sugar? how many do we know have covid-19 until we test them? it all begins there. test, trace and isolate. soaring numbers of new covid-19 cases, you know, the hospitalizations are going to follow. they're already there. that's a bad metric. i was talking to a cleek heolle

here in atlanta. 20 million are unemploy e ed. we need to contact them and help us with tracing. that is absolutely lacking in this country. it's not enough to it tell somebody you have covid-19. tell them to isolate. contact everybody they've been in contact with gawk backwards and forwards as well. >> the challenge continues. important announcement from new york, connecticut and new jersey today. appreciate your insights. thank you, as always so much. >> thank you. quick break. we'll be right back. here's a tip: get half-off the amazing iphone 11 on at&t, america's fastest network for iphones. second tip: you can put googly eyes on your stuff to keep yourself company. uh for example, that's heraldo. he's my best friend. oh, sorry nancy, i forgot you were there.

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first of all, simply, undervalued the numbers so far, but more worryingly, they now expect social distancing and mitigation measures to have to be further and longer and deeper than originally. that's why, john, if you look at the way they defined this, what's happened has happened, but the worrying part is what goes on forward. you're seeing this today. you're seeing it in the news from new york, new jersey and connecticut. the sort of announcements taking place in this country at the moment. they are going to make recovery harder, because the situation is worse than expected. not just here but elsewhere, and that's why the imf says this is a catastrophe. >> catastrophe. look at the numbers on the screen. global growth shrinking, a tough and long stretch ahead. very much appreciate the reporting. don't forget for the latest stock market news strategy for your portfolio check it out only

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welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing a busy news day with us. president trump celebrating after an appeals case orders a case against michael flynn dismissed. this hour, a big vote for the police reform package in the senate. democrats say the republican bill is not salvageable, their word, and threaten to block the measure. if they do, derailing an alreadi