tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN June 24, 2020 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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everybody was home. now we are reaching a point where we are much less safe and we need to be even more careful. >> reporter: kyung law, cnn, los angeles. >> thanks to kyung and all of you. as always, anderson starts now. and good evening on the day when the southern and western united states is breaking single-day records for new coronavirus cases and not for the first time this week, a day after the u.s. recorded its third highest single day case total overall and new influential model says if people wear masks, the death toll would be significantly reduced, you might hope the president of the united states facing cameras during a news conference in the rose garden at the white house would have something to say about it all. perhaps acknowledging that large indoor rallies aren't wise or flouting your government's guidelines at these rallies about social distancing and wearing masks is also a detriment to the public health but he did not. instead, the president left the rose garden having only made one
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comment about the virus, evade reality show like tease of a surprise to come. >> as far as the joining with us on the vaccines and they are w therapeutics, i'd like that even better. we're working very well on both. i think we're coming up with some great answers. i think you'll have a big surprise, a beautiful surprise sooner than anybody would think. >> a beautiful surprise. don't touch that dial. don't lose more of your faith in me. he's still got tricks up his sleeve so he says. erica hill has more,er erica? >> reporter: it's interesting the president is not wearing a mask because more and more is those masks are being mandated if not at the state level, then certainly at the local level as concern grows with cases and hospitalizations surging. california, the first state to issue a stay-at-home order shattered a daily high set only
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two days ago adding more than 7,000 new cases on tuesday. >> it is our behaviors that are leading to these numbers and we are putting people's lives at risk. >> reporter: covid related hospitalizations and icu admissions also at an all-time high. the numbers in arizona, florida and texas also surging. >> this is not just increase in the number of cases, it's the slope, the way it's accelerating. it's almost vertical. >> reporter: one south florida health system seeing a more than 100% increase in the number of covid-19 patients in the last two weeks. >> we're not where we need to be. >> if you don't like wearing a mask, you won't like wearing a ventilator. >> reporter: as of tuesday, 12% of arizona's icu beds were available. >> we'll go into surge capacity mode probably by fourth of july. the most urgent thing i think is to get the hospital systems ready. >> reporter: nationwide, more than half of u.s. states reporting an increase in new cases over the past week.
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new york, new jersey and connecticut where cases are trending down want to keep it that way. >> people coming in from states that have a high infection rate must quarantine for 14 days. >> reporter: as of wednesday night, eight states subject to the new order that comes with hefty fines in new york state starting at $2,000. >> it's time for personal responsibili responsibility. >> reporter: the new york city marathon, which attracts more than 50,000 runners and more than a million spectators every fall cancelled over coronavirus fears. major league baseball, however, will take the field this summer 60 games starting in late july. coinciding with that news, more positive cases among the phillies and reports of infection for the rockies, too. >> and where do states stand on the mandatory use of masks? >> reporter: so more are adding those mandates. north carolina today, governor roy cooper announcing one for his state and we keep going back
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to florida. governor ron desantis was asked again today about a mandate for his state as we see not only cities but counties in southern florida put them into place. he said he's encouraging people to wear those masks. he doesn't think enforcement would be an effective use of resources so he has no plans for a statewide mandate. we're hearing again from dr. fauci. he said very clearly today just look at the data when it comes to masks. he said this should not be a political issue, it's a public health issue and people looking at it through the political lens, time to get past it. >> thanks very much. more on the modelling suggesting deaths may be lower with safeguards of masks and social distancing kept in place. joining me is dr. chris murray at the institute for health met tricks and university of washington and chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. you chose to show three different scenarios when you compare the current prediction scenario to the universal mask scenario that assumes 95% of
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people in the u.s. start wearing masks far off from, by that simple act we could save 33,000 lives by october 1st. i mean, it really is all down to the masks? >> it's an incredibly simple, cheap and now turning out to be effective intervention both for individuals but also for communities and that's why we were pretty amazed at how big the effect is for the country. so absolutely. there is no reason that every state shouldn't do what other states are starting to do, which is mandate mask use. >> sanjay, it's incredible. you know, every time you think about should i put a mask on or not, 33,000 people's lives would be saved by october. that's stunning. sosh sorry, we're having problems with sanjay's mask.
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we'll continue with dr. murray. can we continue to open businesses and keep people safe as long as people are wearing masks even in hot spot areas? >> well, i think it's going to be a balance, anderson, which is in places where transmission is really taking off, we may need to do more than just masks but for pretty much every state that we've looked at, if we can get people to wear masks, we cannot only save lives but i sort of think of it as we can also save the economy because we can keep business going if we can convince people this is the best strategy we have hat hand. >> sanjay, it seems harmful what the administration is doing on one hand pushing for reopening but at the same time, not pushing with equal force to remind people that okay, wear masks when you're out, social distance when you're out and going to businesses. >> and not advocating from things that keep us from going back into shutdown mode again. that's an irony. i will point out, there are
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countries around the world including south korea which never really went into a shutdown mode but because of testing and because of masks, they have had tremendous success. i mean, they had fewer than 300 people who have died here, you know. one thing that sort of strikes me here and i'm curious because we talked to dr. murray so many times over the last few months, still, though, 146,000 people you say would still die if 95% of people are wearing masks, right? is that true? i mean, does that make the argument that we still need to go into some sort of shutdown or stay at home mode? >> well, remember that 121,000 of those deaths have already occurred so yes, there is still going to be 25,000 people that may likely die between now and october. but remember, we're in this for the long haul because we know that there will be more of the fall and so i also think we have to tamper the strategies with that longer term view.
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so i think our best strategy right now outside of the big hot spots is really to focus on mask use and then in some of the hot spots, yes, we might need to scale back on some of the -- or reimpose some of the mandates. >> is that -- dr. murray, you're saying kind of we need to focus on masks now, is that because you're sensing and you're seeing that people are just fed up with being inside and all the social distancing and can't maintain that? i mean, obviously from a medical standpoint if everyone was in lockdown, that would be better from a medical standpoint but from an economic one, it's not. since we're in it for the long term, give people this breathing space now the weather is warm and numbers are somewhat down because of some warmer weather because come the fall, winter, it's going to wallop again. >> exactly. i think we're going to see kids going back to school in september, at least in some places. the colder weather coming in,
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we're going to see, you know, increases coming pretty much all over the country and we can manage most of the harm, not all through masks over the summer so exactly. i think we need to take the long view and think about how we're going to get through as a country, you know, right through to basically a year from now. >> sanjay, it is -- i mean, just kind of hearing dr. murray saying a year from now, just thinking about this as it's going to go on for another year, i mean, just hearing that i kind of have to want to pause and just wrap my mind around that because it's sort of -- i mean, it's just an agonizing thought for everybody. >> no, i know. i feel the same way. i mean, you know, you do again have these countries around the world where you've -- it's definitely not the same as it was but they have a sense of
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normal si thmal si where things functioning and you interviewed the people that wrote this the dance with the virus, you learn how to live with us in different ways. i'm really struck by the idea these simple npis, none pharmaceutical interventions can have such an impact. we assumed and guessed they would but there is good data around this. it's going to be awhile still but there is ways to get through it and ways that are less painful than they are now. >> dr. murray, i know this is probably an obvious point but i think it's an important one just to emphasize. it didn't have to be like this. we didn't -- i just want to be clear and correct me if i'm wrong from a scientific stand point, we didn't have to believe the number one country with covid cases and the highest fatality rate. we didn't have to be in this position that we are in right now where europe ismericans fro coming to the european union because we're handling this so
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poorly. i mean, we could have been a south korea or taijuan or any of the other countries or iceland, which has dealt with this very, very well and i mean, is that correct that there is nothing inherent about what happened here that this was inevitable. it's simply how we have dealt with this with the testing, the contact tracing, the social distancing. we just haven't done it well enough. >> yeah, we could be new zealand. we could be in stadiums with 40,000 people watching professional sports. it's all about how early you act and act in a concerted way before we get large scale transmission in the community and absolutely no reason this had to happen the way it did but if we set the clock back, we would have had to have acted pretty properly, had the tests in place and had cone tanment strategy in place back in january and certainly in february. >> and february as we know was,
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you know, a lost month. dr. chris murray, thank you very much. sanjay, thank you, as well. see you tomorrow. sanjay will join us once again sanjay and i will be doing the coronavirus town hall facts and fears. special guest bill gates. always a fascinating discussion with bill gates. i'm really looking forward to that tomorrow night 8:00 p.m. eastern here. just ahead, why crowded bars and restaurants in ex-t text te among the staggering increase in races. and barr and berman and why it's painted as a politicized arm of the white house. adam schiff that led the impeachment investigation joins us tonight.
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tonight we've been talking about a spike in texas. one hot spot is texas. there is a rise in the number of cases. you can see the daily new case count stayed under 2,000 per day until around memorial day weekend when it spiked. today texas announced 5,551 cases, another new record. it's not just a rise in cases but a rise in hospital beds with our next guest concerned that intensive care units in texas could fill up in the coming weeks. joining me now is someone you heard from, dr. peter hotez in bailor college of texas. dr. hotez is working potential covid-19 vaccine. you're saying this rise in cases is vertical and if this trajectory keeps going quote, houston would be the worst affected city in the u.s. and rival what we're seeing in brazil. that's pretty startling. can you give me a sense how that might actually happen? >> yeah, i mean, what we're seeing now, anderson, is what i call an exponential increase if
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you seen what an exponential curve looks like, it's flat and goes up almost vertically. that seems to be happening in houston and not only houston but a similar acceleration in dallas, in austin and san antonio. the big metro areas seem to be rising very quickly and some of the models are on the verge of being apocalyptic. we're seeing the models coming out of pennsylvania and a model but the numbers say that we'll have a four fold increase in the number of daily cases by july 4th in houston. so right now, we're seeing a steep acceleration. there are cases we're talking maybe 4,000 cases a day by july 4th weekend, july 5th. that is really worrisome and as those numbers rise, we're seeing commencing increases in the number of hospitalizations and icu admissions and you worry you get to the point where you
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overwhelm icus and that's when mortality goes up. right now we have icu beds and room to go. our texas children's hospital under mark wallace, their ceo is opening up the children's hospital for adult beds. md anderson can open up beds. we have more room but who wants to go there? we need to do something to halt community transmission right now. >> i want to play something texas governor abbott said yesterday warning texans about the virus. >> because the spread is so ramped right now, there is never a reason for you to have to leave your home unless you do need to go out. the safest place for you is at your home. >> governor abbott is urging people to stay at home but it's not a stay-at-home order and texas was one of the earliest states to reopen. do you think his approach back then is why we're seeing this spike now? >> well, you know, he started out pretty strong. we started off here in texas very strong.
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we saw what was happening in new york back in march and april and we implemented a very aggressive social distancing program and that was extremely successful. so we probably stopped the virus from really taking off because we halted it early, much earlier than new york did. they probably had transmission for five or six weeks and had thousands of patients in the intensive care units. we probably had transmission for probably two or three weeks and the consequence of that is we never saw the big surge. we were doing great. but then you just had chris murray on and i've been talking with chris and the model at the university of washington said look, keep this lockdown throughout the month of may and then you can get to containment mode, that means less than one new case per million residents per day and your public health system should be able to handle it like new zealand but we didn't go there. we opened it up at the end of
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april and then after memorial day, the cases started to rise. but we didn't do some other things. we didn't put in place a sufficient level of public health infrastructure and the belts and suspenders that we needed to in terms of contact the level of contact tracing, diagnostic testing. we never put in an app based system for looking at local areas of rise of cases of fever. >> so houston isn't doing the contact tracing that you'd hope they would be? >> it's in place but not at the level and scope that for instance we're seeing in new york and elsewhere. there were some good pieces in place but not at substantial level that we needed and now we're seeing the consequences of that of all those things this very steep price. we also probably didn't va level of public health communication
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because i think the governor is well intentioned doing a quarter then 50% and not just the governor but the county executives and the mayors, i don't think the people really heard that because driving around houston, people didn't have masks on. they were piling into bars and et cetera. >> yeah. dr. peter hotez, appreciate being with us and sorry with this message but appreciate it. up next, republicans defending and down playing president trump's remarks about kung flu. volkswagen today. you'll get 2 years or 20,000 miles of scheduled carefree maintenance. 3 years or 36,000 miles of 24/7 roadside assistance. 4 years or 50,000 miles bumper-to-bumper limited warranty. 5 years of connected services. and for 6 years you won't have paid any interest. down the road, you'll be grateful you bought a volkswagen today.
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numbers at his news conference with the polish president today. one topic he talked about was statutes. clearly an issue he's latching on to because he believes it will push the right buttons to keep his base summering at a steady boil and adding jesus christ to the list of statutes he's determined to defend. kaitlan collins joins us. >> reporter: i don't think there is wide spread calls to bring down statutes of jesus christ. i can think of one person that said that that's a prominent figure but he addressed it in the rose garden next to the polish leader. he believes democrats don't care and people tearing down these monuments don't even know why they are tearing them down. >> i think many of the people that are knocking down these statutes don't even have any idea what the statute is, what it means, who it is. when they knocked down grant, when they want to knock down grant, but when they look at certain ones, they are looking at jesus christ. they are looking at george
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washington. they're looking at abraham lincoln. thomas jefferson. not going to happen. not going to happen. not as long as i'm here. >> and anderson, what is interesting about that, this evolved from where the president was initially saying we shouldn't rename military bases named after confederate leaders, generals, military members and now the president is changing it to basically saying that if you start to take down those kinds of monuments and those kinds of statutes, you're going to take down ones of thomas jefferson and jesus christ. you know, he didn't mention those confederate leaders today while he was in the rose garden but that's the equivalentequiva white house is making. >> clearly, the president has been casting around for things that he believes will ignite the base, you know, it was as you said, it was the base named after confederate generals. that didn't seem to take off. so now, i guess, jesus christ
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is, you know, a button he thinks he will push and that that will have the most residence. he's talking about an executive order. what does that even mean? >> reporter: we really have no details on that. that's something he thinks he'll sign by the end of the week. he wants to be able to punish people trying to tear down statutes like in front of the white house the other night, trying to take down andrew jackson, a personal favorite of president's statute. there was a law enacted in 2003 that does punish people who try to do that. it's not really clear what the president would be doing that's different here. he even kind of hinted at that today saying it would only really reinforce it. it's a messaging tactic and like you said, it comes as the president is trying to stoke certain wars. he's 14 points down to biden and political advisors say it's something he's obviously taking of. >> kaitlan collins. the president's comments about
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the kung flu virus attracting attention and denounced the term but the president said it out loud twice this week and magically she appears to have rethought her answer. >> how do you know that people aren't anticipating that? you don't know that. while the president -- excuse me, while the president is saying it, while the president is saying it, he's also saying this virus came from china. china is responsible. he said it's called many different things. it's called the wuhan virus, the chinese virus and he used another term. you can ask him. how is that? you should have come forward 100 days ago when you had the chance. you lost your opportunity. you lack the courage to tell everybody who said that to you. >> kellyanne conway profile encouraged. two republican senators refuseded to criticize the phrase today. ron johnson of wisconsin said he wouldn't lose any sleep over it when asked if it was racist to say responded we're way too
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sensitive about these things says the white guy. lindsey graham said people don't care what he calls the flu. also a white guy. and when that -- when pushed on whether he thought it was racially tinged said quote was the spanish flu racially tinged? the funny thing is, lindsey, it actually was. spanish flu you may not know this, mr. graham, senator graham, didn't originate from spain. got labeled that and spain suffered because of it and we still think it originated in spain because during world war i many newspapers were censored. wartime sensors minimize reports of the illness in their countries because they didn't want to demoralize people during the war effort. they didn't sensor reporting so it seemed like spain is where the flu began because there were reports about it in spain because the reports were censored. they aren't sure where it originated from so yeah, lindsey graham, it was racially tinged. joining me now is bakari sellers
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and released "my vanishing country" which i just finished and is a really good book. both are cnn political commentators. >> andrew, we just saw kellyanne conway not only defending this term which she once, you know, said was wrong to use, then turning around on an asian american cbs news reporter blaming her for not revealing who used the term kung flu in the white house in the first place. i mean, it's hard -- i don't know. i don't know what the question is in this, but why is it so hard -- i guess, why is it so hard for people around the president to just say something is offensive or wrong? especially when they have already said it's wrong and the president uses it, she contorts herself into, you know, like a pretzel trying to come up with explanations? >> this is the bind that trump supporters find themselves in that they have to defend
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something that they themselves criticized a number of days of weeks ago and we all can see exactly what is happening, anderson, where using a term like this is just trump's attention to distract attention from the fact that the administration is completely botched and mishandled the coronavirus pandemic. the doctor said we see cases surge in 23 states plus around the country. this is his, in my opinion, very ineffective attempt to turn the conversation in a different direction. and it puts people like kellyanne in this impossible position where they have to say something different than she said weeks ago. >> not only kellyanne conway but mitch mcconnell who is married to a woman whose asian american. he was asked how he feels about the president's use of kung flu and said you'll have to ask -- maybe you should ask that to his wife. >> yeah, that's depressing as a
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husband, i can tell you my wife expects me to stand up for her more than that. the president is racist and racists do racist things. i want to look at the broader sense of phrase and the environment in which he said it, which tied into something earlier in the segment. the president said kung flu in the middle of a church in arizona and among evangelicals who waited on him with baited breath to say it and cheered. i don't have a level of expectation for donald trump. i thought donald trump was racist since he rode down the escalator and stated that mexicans are sending us their rapist. in fact, i go back further. i thought donald trump was racist since he talked about the central park five. i'll go back further. i thought donald trump was racist since he got in trouble from the department of labor for marking housing applications with the little letter c for color. so this is a history, this is a pattern. i don't have any level of
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expectation for donald trump when it comes to the issue of race. but i mean, there are people in this country who will turn a blind eye to his blatant racism. that's what my problem is. that church of evangelicals, just to tie it in a bit. imagine if they found out jesus was actually a brown middle east earn refugee? their heads would probably explode. so he's playing into these culture wars. it's not winning. it's only going to get worse between now and november and i wish people got more friends in this world. right now, we're living in a world where we don't have empathy and that way you don't know if this is racist or not maybe. but you should talk to one of your friends of asian american descent. you should actually have friends in this world who can tell you and call this b.s. out for what it is. >> andrew, clearly, the president has been kind of casting around for things that will ignite the base, keep everybody riled up, keep media focused on this and distracted, do you think this stuff works
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still? i remember in the 80s when i was in high school and college, i remember a lot of -- there was people would use burning the american flag as the touch stone that would get everybody very upset, you know for understandable reasons but protected speech according to the court. does it -- do you think it has the same power? that's the trump playbook right now it seems. >> i think it's losing steam as we speak, anderson and you can see it in the polls. i mean, this is like the despera desperate thrashes around of a losing candidate. he shows up to a rally that has a small fraction of the people they are protecting and he's somewhat desperate. he can see the polls. he's losing to joe in the crucial swing states. i think this is a losing path for him. he's just degrading himself in the office of the president further by grasping at straws that aren't actually keeping him afloat. i wish he could figure out a path that did not involve racist
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comments that end up throwing millions of americans under a rhetorical bus, but here it is and hopefully we can get him out of there and call an end to this presidency in four and a half short months. >> bakari, do you think it still works? i'm not sure i believe polls especially right now but, you know, national polls, even state polls. do you think this works? >> i mean, it worked in 2016. let's be honest. i mean, you know, i love both you and andrew with all my heart, but i mean, in 2016 we saw an election where we knew donald trump was racist going into the election, right? we had the most qualified woman in the history of politics run for office, and people still chose the racist over her. i mean, so this isn't new. and what we're hoping for, though, what we're hoping for is something this country has not beared out. we're hoping this country will finally turn the page and yes, we have nascar. we have taylor swift.
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we have all these things happening during this moment that show us this moment may be different but we still have to run through the tape to andrew's point. we have four and a half months and this if we do not do something, if we're not participating in this democracy, then donald trump will get elected because that racism has won. >> bakari sellers, andrew yang, appreciate your time. thanks very much. up next, days after attorney general bill barr forced the removal of a top prosecutor, another testifies saying there is political justice. talk about it with democratic house intelligence chairman adam schiff next. as a caricature artist, i appreciate what makes each person unique. that's why i like liberty mutual. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. almost done. what do you think?
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justice not blind and the defendant is a friend of president trump's. the stunning message today from a current federal prosecutor to the house judiciary committee. one of four that quit the case. he said he quit when the justice department sentencing reck men age was watered down. stone you may recall is a long-time friend of president trump convicted last fall of seven charges including lying and witness tampering in the congressional investigation. he didn't hold back today. here is more of what he told the committee when he testified remotely. >> what i saw was that loroger stone was being treated
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differently than every other defendant. he received breaks that are in my experience unheard of and all the more so for a defendant in his circumstances. a defendant who lied to congress who remained unrepent dent and made threats against a judge and witness in his case and what i heard repeatedly is this leniency was happening because of stone's relationship to the president. >> joining me is adam schiff. your colleague house speaker nancy pelosi labeled barr a hinch m henchman for the president. would you agree with that statement? >> i certainly would. he's the second most dangerous man in the country and what he's done to that department that i served with for almost six years is so reprehensible and dangerous to the rule of law because there are now two standards of justice. there's one for friends of the president and there is one for everyone else.
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if you're a friend of the president, you get a reduced sentencing recommendation or in the case of mike flynn, your whole case gets to be made to go away. -on t on the other hand, ordinary americans not connected to the president doesn't get any such breaks and what's more, bill barr threatens to use the power of the justice department to go after the president'sen ee's e. this is a very precarious situation for the rule of law in this country. we look more and more like an emerging democracy than the strongest democracy in the globe and a lot of that has come as a result of bill barr's corrupt handling of that department. >> yeah, an emergency democracy or fading democracy, i guess. if you look at bill barr's actions going back to when he refused to release the report and issued his own four-page summery of it that was misleading to the firing of jeffrey berman, the u.s. attorney general in new york, today's testimony that the doj allegedly experterted pressure part of a pattern of protecting
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the president and there were reforms muput in place after watergate to stop this kind of thing. >> that's exactly right. from the earliest days of this presidency, donald trump has stepped on all these norms of office post watergate where the white house wasn't going to interfere in particular cases especially those that might implicate the interest of the president. but it wasn't until bill barr that he had his roy cone, he has as the speaker said his henchmen in the to president obama session -- do the president's willdo the pres will. we have an attorney general willing to mislead the country about mueller's investigation and about his own interactions with mueller, and now we see a continuation of that by the effort to force out the prosecutor, the independent u.s.
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attorney from new york. barr is desemibling to the country about his resignation. he is assembling to the u.s. attorney from new jersey who he apparently also misrepresented that berman was voluntarily resigning. so this is an unscrupulous attorney general and when that is the top law enforcement officer in the country, it spells real danger to the republic. >> jerry nadler said today he may in fact pursue impeaching barr but said to be a waste of time. do you foresee that? is that a real possibility because republicans control the senate and would most likely stand behind barr. >> you know, i leave it to chairman nadler and the speaker to mansionke a decision of that nature. i do think it's very important that we expose the full wrongdoing of this administration, both the wrongdoing of the attorney general and the president of the united states so as we move forward, the american people know exactly what they have in this administration, which is
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one that does not value our democratic institutions or the rule of law and therefore is a danger to every american. if you think that the president won't go after you just because you're a friend of the president, well, you may be right at the moment but he will turn on anyone he perceives as a threat. there is no safety or security even for the allies of the president. i wish the members of the house and senate, my colleagues in the gop would realize that. they are vulnerable, too. no american is safe when the attorney general is not looking out for the interest of justice but only looking out for the interest of a president who makes common cause with auto cats and decemb cats. >> during his senate testimony he wasn't the most forthcoming with answers. i mean, do you think you can actually learn something this time? >> i think it's important to put
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the questions to the attorney general. whether he answers them or answers them truthfully to expose his lack of character of the american people, but anderson, i think you're right. probably the more important testimony is the testimony that we heard today and that we will hear from other whistle-blowers and that is people who can expose bill bar's wrongdoing rather than just hear bill barr deny his own wrongdoing. these other witnesses may not be as high pro vile but have important things to say. i thought the former department attorney general under george bush who talked about the systemic threat to the rule of law was among the most important testimony that we've heard. so all of these witnesses i think will be crucial. >> chairman shifchiff appreciat your time. join jake tapper for "trump and the law after impeachment" this sunday night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. still ahead tonight,
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let's in with chris and see what he's working on for "prime time." >> how are you doing, coop? we have an interesting situation going on in this country, by "interesting" i mean bad when it comes to the pandemic. the nonsense that the virus would take the summer off was just that, nonsense. leaders have popped up around the country in the form of heads of state. you have the no, smost populous states, california, texas, florida, with an explosion of cases. why? we'll get an answer from the governor of one of the states that was the epicenter but now
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the cases are down there dramatically, the governor of new york, my brother, andrew cuomo, is here to discuss why he, the governor of new jersey, and the governor of connecticut have gotten their cases down. what have they learned and why are they banding together for this new quarantine, is that the best way to keep the numbers down? they didn't like it when it was going to be done to them, why is it okay now? and new charges in the case of georgia involving arbery, how he was chased down there. malice now ascribed by the grand jury. new implications. >> thank you, chris, we'll look forward to that, coming up. we'll be right back. can i fm with a truly long-term view that's been through multiple market cycles for over 85 years? with capital group, i can. talk to your financial professional or consultant
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the grand jury has indicted the flee mthree men accused of g ahmaud arbery back in february. his murder and video of the deadly encounter sparked widespread outrage and arbery's name is one of the ones protesters have shouted in demanding social justice. victor blackwell joins us, what happens next, victor? >> reporter: there's a judicial emergency here in georgia because of coronavirus, anderson, but we're told by the
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district attorney in cobb county it took the jury just ten minutes to return an indictment of nine counts, malice, murder, felony murder, aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal intent to commit false imprisonment. if convicted they will receive life in prison. it could go to life in prison without parole or the death penalty. we have not yet learned from the district attorney whether the death penalty will be sought. we've heard from the attorney for william roddie who says that he was just a witness. he shot the video that we've seen. >> has the family responded? >> reporter: yes, so the family was not at the reading of the -- or announcement, i should say, of the indictment today. but the d.a. says as soon as they received that, they called the family and she said they were grateful. there is a statement from an attorney who represents the family who says that they're
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determined to see the men prosecuted, convicted, and appropriately sentenced. of course the family has waited a very long time for this. so many weeks for charges and now this. they say justice will come at the end of this trial with that sentence. >> victor blackwell, thank you. i'll hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> thanks very much, anderson, i appreciate it. welcome to "prime time." california, texas, and florida. the three most populous states in our country are now bursting with covid cases. thousands of new infections being reported every day. the crisis is getting worse in this country in at least 23 other states. turns out the virus didn't take a summer break, just as we were warned. now, you will not hear the president, and i argue, any republican leader within his earshot, say any of what i just told you.
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