in a day where a new influential model said if people wear mask, the death toll might be significantly reduced. perhaps, acknowledging that large, indoor rallies or that flouting and subverting your own government's guidelines at these rallies about social distancing and wearing masks is also a detriment to the public health. but he did not. instead, the president left the rose garden having made only one comment about the virus. a vague, reality show like tease of a surprise to come. >> as far as the joining us with on the vaccines and therapeutics, by the way. because therapeutics to me, if you gave me a choice right now. probably, therapeutically, i'd like that even better. but i think we're coming up with some great answers. i think you're going to have a big surprise, a beautiful surprise, sooner than anybody would think. >> a beautiful surprise. don't touch that dial. don't lose more of your faith in me. he's still got tricks up his

sleeve, so he says. erica hill joins us with more. erica. >> hi, anderson. good evening. it's interesting the president is not wearing a mask because more and more, we're seeing across the country is those masks are being mandated, if not at the state level, then certainly at the local level. as concern grows with cases and hospitalizations surging. california, the first state to issue a stay-at-home order, shattering a daily high set only two days ago. adding more than 7,000 new cases on tuesday. >> it is our behaviors that are leading to these numbers. and we are putting people's lives at risk. >> covid-related hospitalizations and icu admissions, also, at an all-time high. the numbers in arizona, florida, and texas, also, surging. >> this is not just the increase in the number of cases. it's the -- the slope. the way it's accelerating. it's almost vertical. >> one south florida health system seeing a more than 100% increase in the number of

covid-19 patients in the last two weeks. >> we're not where we need to be. >> if you don't like wearing a mask, you're not going to like wearing a ventilator. >> as of tuesday, just 12% of arizona's icu beds were available. >> we're going to go into surge-capacity mode, probably, by fourth of july. so the most urgent thing, i think, is to get the hospital systems ready. >> nationwide, more than half of u.s. states reporting an increase in new cases over the past week. new york, new jersey, and connecticut, where cases are trending down, want to keep it that way. >> people coming in from states that have a high infection rate must quarantine for 14 days. >> as of wednesday night, eight states, subject to the new order, which comes with hefty fines in new york state, starting at $2,000. >> it's time for personal responsibility. >> the new york city marathon, which attracts more than 50,000 runners and nearly a million spectators every fall, cancelled, over coronavirus fears. major league baseball, however,

will take the field this summer. 60 games, starting in late july. coinciding with that news, more positive cases among the philly and reports of infection for the rockies, too. >> where do states stand on the mandatory use of masks? >> so, more are adding those mandates. north carolina today, governor roy cooper, announcing one for his state. and you know, we keep going back to florida. governor ron desantis was asked, again, today about a mandate for his state. as we are seeing not only cities but counties in southern florida put them into place. he said he is encouraging people to wear those masks. he doesn't think, though, that enforcement would be an effective use of resources. so he has no plans for a statewide mandate. meantime, we're hearing again from dr. fauci who said very clearly today, just look at the data when it comes to masks. he said this should not be a political issue. it is clearly a public health issue. and for people looking at it through the political lens, he said it's time to get at about pa, anderson.

>> thanks very much. safeguards like masks and social distancing are kept in place. joining me is the director of the institute that publishes the study, dr. chris murray of the institute of health metrics and evaluation at the university of washington. also, cnn chief medical correspondent. dr. sanjay gupta. so, dr. murray, you chose to show three different scenarios this time. when you compare the current prediction scenario to the universal mass scenario, which assumes at least 90% of people start wearing masks, which we're far off from. shows, just by that simple act, we could save 33,000 lives by october 1st. i mean, it really is all down to masks? >> it's an incredibly simple, cheap, and now, turning out to be an effective intervention both for individuals but also for communities. and that's why we were pretty amazed at how big the effect is for the country. so, absolutely, there's no reason that every state shouldn't do what other states are starting to do, which is

mandate mask use. >> sanjay, i mean, it's incredible. you know, every time you think about should i put a mask on or not? 33,000 people's lives would be saved by october. that's stunning. sorry, we had problems with sanjay's mic. we' we'll continue with dr. murray. dr. murray, from a medical standpoint, can we continue to reopen businesses and keep people safe as long as people are wearing masks, even in hotspot areas? >> well, i think it's going to be a balance, anderson. which is, in places where transmission is really taking off, we may need to do more than just masks. but for pretty much every state that we have looked at, if we can get people to wear masks, we can, not only save lives but, i sort of think of it as we can also save the economy. because we can keep business going, if we can convince people

that this is the best strategy we haven't had. >> sanjay, that's what so -- seems harmful about what the administration is doing. on the one hand, pushing for reopening. at the same time, not pushing, with equal force, to remind people that, okay, wear masks when you're out. social distance when you're out and going to businesses. >> yeah. they're not advocating for the things that would keep us from going back into shutdown mode again. so that is an irony. and i will point out, there are countries around the world, including south korea, which never really went into a shutdown mode. but, because of testing and because of masks, they've had tremendous success. i mean, they've had fewer than 300 people who have died here. you know? one thing that sort of strikes me here, and i am curious because we've talked to dr. murray so many times over the last few months. is that, still, though, 146,000 people would still die, even if 95% of people are wearing masks, right? is that true? i mean, does that make the argument that we still need to go into some sort of shutdown or

stay-at-home mode? >> well, remember that, you know, 121,000 of those deaths have already occurred. so yes, there's still going to be 25,000 people that may, likely, die between now and october. but remember, we're in this for the long haul because we know that there'll be more in the fall. so i, also, think we have to temp temper the strategies with that longer-term view. so i think our best strategy, right now, outside of the big hotspots, is really to focus on mask use. and then, in some of the hotspots, yes, we might need to scale back or reimpose some of the mandates. >> is that -- dr. murray, you are saying kind of we need to focus on masks now. is that because you're sensing and you're seeing that people are just fed up of being inside and all the social distancing? and can't maintain that? i mean, obviously, from a medical standpoint, if everyone was in lockdown, that would be better, from a medical standpoint.

but obviously, from an economic one, it's not. and since we're in it for the long-term, are you essentially saying, you know, give people kind of this breathing space right now while the weather is warm, while numbers are somewhat down because of some warmer weather? because, come the fall/winter, it's going to wallow up again? >> exactly. i think we are going to see kids going back to school in september, at least in some places. you know, the colder weather coming in. we're going to see, you know, increases coming, pretty much all over the country. and we can manage most of the harm, not all, through masks over the summer. so, exactly. i do think we need to take the longview and think about how we're going oh get through, as a country, you know, right through to, basically, a year from now. >> sanjay, it is -- i mean, the -- just kind of hearing dr. murray say a year from now. just thinking about this as it's going to go on for another year. i mean, i -- just hearing that,

i kind of have to want to pause, and just wrap my mind around that. because it sort of -- i mean, it's just an agonizing thought, you know, for everybody. >> i know. i feel the same way. i mean, you know, you do, again, have these countries around the world where you -- you've -- have -- it's definitely not the same as it was. but they have a sense of normalcy that i think, you know, where things are functioning. and -- and i think, as you've interviewed the person who wrote this, the dance with the virus, we learn how to sort of live with it, in different ways. but, you know, i'm really struck by the idea these simple, what they call npis, nonpharmaceutical interventions, can have such an impact. we assumed, guessed, hypothesized that they would. but now, there's good data around this. so, yeah, it's going to be a while, still. but there's ways to get through it and ways that are a lot less painful than they are right now. >> and, dr. murray, i know this is probably an obvious point but i think it's an important one

just to emphasize. it didn't have to be like this. we didn't -- i just want to be clear. and correct me if i'm wrong. from a scientific standpoint, we didn't have to be the number one country with covid cases and the highest fatality rate. we didn't have to be in this position, that we are in right now, where europe is talking about banning americans from coming to the european union because we are handling this so poorly. i mean, we could've been a south korea or a taiwan or any of the other countries. or iceland, which has dealt with this very, very well. and, i mean, is that correct? that there's nothing inherent about what happened here, that this was inevitable. it's simply how we have dealt with this with the testing, the contact tracing, the social distancing. we just haven't done it well enough. >> yeah. we could be in stadiums with, you know, 40,000 people,

watching professional sports. it's all about how early you act, and act in a concerted way, before we get large-scale transmission in the community. there was absolutely no reason this had to happen the way it did. but if we set the clock back, we would have had to have acted, you know, pretty properly, had the tests in place, had the containment strategy in place. you know, back in january. and certainly, in february. >> yeah. and february, as we know, you know, was basically a lost month. dr. chris murray, thank you very much. sanjay, thank you as well. i'm going see you tomorrow. sanjay's going to join us, once again, sanjay and i will be doing the coronavirus town hall facts and fears. joining us will be our special guest bill gates. always a fascinating discussion with bill gates. we'll -- i'm really looking forward to that. again, that's tomorrow, 8:00 p.m. eastern, here, on cnn. just ahead, we will examine why crowded bars and restaurants in texas may be behind the staggering number of new coronavirus cases there. why experts are concerned whether they have enough icu beds. and later, why attorney

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until freshpet... put the puppy back in my dog. ♪ one of the major hotspots. you can see, here, the daily new case count, staying under 2,000 per day. that's until around memorial day weekend, when it spiked. today, texas announced 5,551 new cases. another new record in a month of them. not just rise in cases that worries health experts but the rise in hospital beds. with our next guest concerned intensive care units in texas could fill up in the coming weeks. joining us now is someone you heard from at the top of the program, dr. hotez.

tha thanks for being with us. you are saying this rise in case cases is vertical. maybe rival what we are seeing now in brazil. that's pretty startling. can you just take -- give me a sense of how that might actually happen? >> yeah. i mean, what we're seeing now, anderson, is what i call an exponential increase, if you have seen what an exponential curve looks like. it looks like it's a bit flat. then, it goes up almost vertically. in fact, that's what seems to be happening right now, in houston. not only houston but we are seeing a similar acceleration in dallas, austin, san antonio. so our big, metro areas seem to be rising, very quickly. and some of the models are, you know, on the verge of being apocalyptic. we are seeing the models come out of pennsylvania. now, it's a model but the

numbers say we'll have a fourfold increase in the number of daily cases by july 4th in houston. so right now, already seeing a steep acceleration. we're talking maybe 4,000 cases a day by july 4th weekend, july 5th. so that is really worrisome. and -- and as that's -- as -- as those numbers rise, we're seeing commensurate increase in the number of hospitalizations and icu admissions. and where you get to the point where you overwhelm icus and that's when mortality goes up. right now, we have icu beds. we still have room to go. our texas children's hospital, under mark wallace, their ceo, is now opening up the children's hospital for adult beds. anderson could open up beds. so we still have more room but who wants to go there? we need to do something to halt community transmission right now. >> i want to play something texas governor abbott said yesterday, warning texans about the virus. >> because the spread is -- is so rampant right now, there is

never a reason for you to have to leave your home, unless you do need to go out. the safest place for you is at your home. >> governor abbott's urging people to stay at home but it's not a stay-at-home order. and the fact of the matter is texas was one of the earliest states to reopen. do you think his approach, back then, is why we are seeing this spike now? >> well, started out pretty strong. we started out, here, in texas pretty strong. we saw what was happening in new york, back in march and april. and we implemented a very aggressive social-distancing program. and that was extremely successful. so we probably stopped the virus from really taking off because we halted it early. much earlier than new york did. they probably had transmission for five or six weeks. and that's why they had thousands of patients in their intensive care units. we probably had transmission, just for, maybe two or three weeks. and the consequence of that was we never saw that big surge. so we were doing great.

but then, you just had chris murray on. and i've been talking with chris and the modelers at university of washington were saying, look. keep this locked down throughout the month of may. and then, you can get to containment mode. and that means less than one new case per million residents, per day. and then, your public health system should be able to handle it. very much like we're seeing in new zealand. but we didn't go there. we opened it up at the end of april. and then, after memorial day, the cases started to rise. but we didn't do some other things. we didn't put in place a sufficient level of public health infrastructure. we didn't put all the belts and suspenders that we needed to, in terms of the level of contact tracing, diagnostic testing. we never put an app-based system for looking at local areas of rise of cases of fever. >> so houston -- texas isn't doing -- they're not doing the

contact tracing that you had hoped they would be? >> it's in place but not at the -- not at the level and scope that, for instance, we're seeing in new york and elsewhere. so there were -- there were some good pieces in place. but not -- not at substantial a level we needed. and now, we're seeing the consequences of that, of all those things, this very steep rise. we, also, probably didn't have a level of public-health communication. because, although i think the governor's well-intentioned, you know, doing a quarter, then 50%. that's with the governor but the county executives and the mayors. i don't think the people really heard that because driving around houston, people didn't have masks on. they were piling into bars and et cetera. >> yeah. dr. peter hotez, appreciate you being with us. sorry it's with this message but i appreciate it. up next, republicans defending and generally downplaying president trump's remarks about kung flu. it's so good to see you. you too! so really, how are you?

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of the program, president trump whiffed on mentioning the spike in coronavirus cases, case numbers at his news conference with the polish president today. one topic he did talk about at length was statues. latching on to because he thinks it will keep his base simmering at a nice, steady boil. he is now adding jes kaitlan collins joins us at the white house. what did he have to say, kaitlan? >> i don't think there have been any widespread calls to bring down statues of jesus christ. i can really only think of one person that addressed that that

is a prominent figure. but the president addressed it today as he was standing next to the polish leader there. he was talking about this and saying democrats don't even care that the people tearing down these monuments don't even know why they're tearing them down. >> i think many of the people that are knocking down these statues don't even have any idea what the statue is, what it means, who it is. when they knock down grant -- when they want to knock down grant. but when they -- now, they're looking at jesus christ. they're looking at george washington. they're looking at abraham lincoln, thomas jefferson. not going to happen. not gonna happen. not as long as i'm here. >> anderson, what's so interesting about that is this evolved from where the president was initially saying we shouldn't rename military bases, named after confederate leaders, generals, military members. and now, the president is changing it to, basically, saying that if you start to take down those kinds of monuments and those kinds of statues, then, you're going to have to take down ones of thomas

jefferson, jesus christ. you know, he didn't mention those confederate leaders today while he was in the rose garden but that's the equivalency that the white house has been making. >> right. it's an argument that's often made when it's discussed about this whole idea. and i mean, it's clearly, the president has been casting around for things that he believes will, you know, ignite the base. you know, for -- it was -- as you said, it was the bases named after confederate generals. that didn't really seem to take off. so now, i guess, jesus christ is -- is, you know, a button that he thinks he will push and that, that will will the most resonance. he's talking about an executive order. what does that even mean? >> we really have no details on that. that's something he said he thinks he is going to sign by the end of the week. basically, he wants to be able to punish people who are trying to tear down statues like you saw in front of the white house the other night. trying to take down andrew jackson. of course, a personal favorite of the president. statue. but there was already a law that

was enacted in 2003, that does punish people who try to do that. so it's not really clear what the president would be doing that's different here. he even kind of hinted at that today. saying it would only really reinforce it. so it seems to be more of a messaging tactic and like you said, it comes as the president is trying to stoke certain culture wars. because he's looking at major polls that show he is 14 points down to biden and his political advisers say it's something he is obviously taking note of. >> kaitlan collins, thanks very much. president trump's comments about the kung flu attracting attention. but now, the president has said it out loud, twice, this week. magically, she appears to have rethought her answer. >> how do you know the way people -- how do you know that people aren't anticipating that? or are not connecting that? you don't know that. excuse me. while the president is saying it, he -- while the president is saying it, he's also saying this virus came from china. china is responsible. he said it's called many different things. it's called the wuhan virus, the

chinese virus. and then, he used another term. you can ask him. how is that? you should -- you should have come forward 100 days ago, when you had the chance. you lost your opportunity. you lacked the courage to tell everybody who said that to you. >> kellyanne conway, profile in courage. two republican senators, also, refused to criticize the phrase today. ron johnson of wisconsin said he wouldn't lose any sleep over it when asked if it was racist to say, responded, quote, we are just way too sensitive about these things. says the white guy. lindsey graham said people don't care what he calls the flu. also, a white guy. and when pushed on whether he thought it was racially tinged, said, quote, was the spanish flu racially tinged? the funny thing is, lindsey, it actually was. spanish flu, you may not know this, mr. graham, senator graham, didn't originate from spain. got labeled that and spain suffered because of it. and we still think it originated in spain because, during world

war i, many newspapers were censored. wartime censors minimized reports of the illness in their countries because they didn't want to demoralize people during the war effort. the spanish press didn't censor reporting so it seemed like spain was where the flu began, because there were actually reports about it in spain because the reporters weren't censored. medical historians still aren't sure exactly where it originated from. so yeah, lindsey graham, it did become racially tinged. he recently released memory "my vanishing country" a really good book. also, joining us andrew yang, former presidential candidate. both are cnn political commentators. andrew, we just saw kellyanne conway, not only defending this term which she once, you know, said was wrong to use. then, turning around, on an asian-american cbs news reporter, for not revealing who used the term kung flu in the white house, in the first place. i mean, it's hard.

you know, i don't -- i don't even know what the question is in this. but why is it so hard -- i guess, why is it so hard around -- for people around the president to just, you know, say something is offensive or wrong? i mean, especially when they have already said it's wrong. but then, when the president used it, you know, she contorts herself into, you know, like, a pretzel trying to come up with explanations. >> well, this is the bind that trump supporters find themselves in, and that they have to defend something that -- that they, themselves, criticized a number of days or weeks ago. and we all can see exactly what's happening, anderson. where using a term like this is just trump's attention to distract attention from the fact that the administration has completely botched and mishandled the coronavirus pandemic. the doctor you just had on is talking about how we're seeing cases surge in 23 states, plus, around country. and so this is, in my opinion, his very ineffective attempt to turn the conversation in a

different direction. and it puts people, like kellyanne in this position where they have to say something they're quoted on camera saying just a number of weeks ago. >> not just kellyanne conway. you have senator mitch mcconnell, who is married to a woman who is asian-american. and he basically stayed silent. but maybe you should ask that to his wife. >> yeah. that's -- that -- that's depressing, as a husband, i can tell you. my wife expects me to stand up for her more than that. but the president is racist. and racists do racist things. i mean, i actually want to look at the broader sense of the phrase and the environment in which he said it, which ties into something earlier in the segment. the president said kung flu in the middle of a church in arizona. amongst evangelicals, who waited on him, with baited breath, to say it. and then, they cheered. and so, you know, i don't have a level of expectation for donald trump.

i thought donald trump was racist since he rode down the escalator, and stated that -- that mexicans are sending us their rapists. in fact, i'll go back further than that. i think donald trump was racist since he talked about the central park five. i'll go back further than that. how about donald trump was racist since he got in trouble with the department of labor for marking -- marking housing applications with the little letter c, for color. so this is a history. this is a pattern. i don't have any level of expectation for donald trump, when it comes to the issue of race. but, i mean, there are people in this country who will turn a blind eye to his blatant racism. that's what my problem is. i mean, in that church of evangelicals, just to tie it in a bit, i mean, imagine if they found out that jesus was actually a brown, middle eastern, refugee. i mean, their heads would probably explode. so he's playing into these culture wars. it's not winning. it's only going to get worse, between now and november. and i wish people got more friends in this world.

right now, we're living in a world where we don't have empathy. and, in that way, you don't know if this is racist or not. maybe? but you should talk to one of your friends who is of asian-american descent. you should actually have friends in this world who can tell you and call this bs out for what it is. >> andrew, clearly, the president's been, as you said, kind of casting around for things that will, you know, ignite the base, keep everybody riled up. keep media focused on this and distracted. do you think this stuff works, i mean, still? i remember in the -- i think '80s when i was in high school and college, i remember a lot of -- there was, you know, people would use burning the american flag as the touchstone that would get everybody very upset. you know, for understandable reasons. but, nevertheless, protected speech, according to the court. does it -- do you think it still has the same power? because it seems like that is the trump playbook, right now. >> i think it's losing steam, as we speak, anderson. and you can see it in the polls. i mean, this is like the desperate thrashing around of a losing candidate.

he shows up to a rally that has a very small fraction of the people that they're projecting. and he -- he's somewhat desperate, in my opinion. he can see the polls. he's losing to joe, in all of the crucial swing states. i think that this is a losing path for him. he's just degrading himself and the office of the president, further, by grasping at straws that aren't actually keeping him afloat. i wish he could figure out a path that did not involve racist comments, that end up throwing millions of americans, you know, under a rhetorical bus. but, here it is. and hopefully, we can get him out of there and call an end to this presidency in four and a half short monthings. >> bakari, do you think it still works? because i'm not sure i believe polls. especially, right now. but, you know, national polls, even state polls. but do you think this works? >> i mean, it worked in 2016. i mean, let's -- let's be honest. i mean, you know, i -- i love both you and andrew, with all my

heart. but, i mean, in 2016, we saw an election where we knew donald trump was racist, going into the election, right? and we had the most qualified woman in the history of politics run for office. and people still chose the racist over her. i mean, so this isn't new. and what we're hoping for, though. what we're hoping for is something this country has not bared out. we're hoping this country will finally turn the page. and yes, we have nascar. yes, we have taylor swift. yes, we have all of these things that are happening during this moment, which show us that this moment may be different. but we still have to run through the tape, to andrew's point. we have four and a half months. and this, if we do not do something, if we're not participa participatory in this democracy, then donald trump will get elected because that racism has won before. >> bakari sellers, andrew yang, appreciate your time. thanks very much. up next, just days after toon general bill barr forced

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justice is not blind to bill barr's justice department if they're a friend of president trump's. sworn testimony to the house judiciary committee. aaron zelensky is one of four federal prosecutors who quit the roger stone case. he told the committee today he quit when the justice department sentencing recommendation was watered down due to political pressure from the, quote, highest levels. stone, you may recall, is a longtime friend and political advisor of president trump who was convicted last fall of seven charges, including lying and witness tampering in an investigation. zelensky didn't hold back today. here is more of what he told the committee when he testified, remotely. >> what i saw was that roger stone was being treated differently, from every other defendant. he received breaks that are, in my experience, unheard of. and all the more so, for a defendant in his circumstances. a defendant who lied to congress, who remained

unrepentant, and who made threats against a judge and a witness in his case. and what i heard, repeatedly, was that this leniency was happening because of stone's relationship to the president. >> joining me now is california democratic congressman adam schiff, chairman of the house intelligence committee. chairman schiff, your colleague house speaker nancy pelosi once termed barr henchman for the president. i'm wondering if you'd agree with that statement. >> i, certainly, would. you know, i've always said that he's the second most dangerous man in the country. and what he's done to that department that i served with for almost six years, is so reprehensible and dangerous to the rule of law. because there are, now, two standards of justice. there's one for friends of the president. and there's one for everyone else. if you're a friend of the president, you get a reduced sentencing recommendation. or, in the case of mike flynn, your whole case gets to be made to go away. on the other hand, ordinary americans, not connected to the president, they don't get any such breaks.

and what's more, bill barr threatens to use the power of the justice department to go after the president's enemies. so this is a very precarious situation for the rule of law in this country. we look more and more like an emerging democracy than we do the strongest democracy in the globe. and a lot of that has come as a result of bill barr's corrupt handling of that department. >> yeah. emerging democracy or fading, i guess. if you look at bill barr's actions to when he refused to release the mueller report and, instead, issued his own four-page summary of it which was misleading to the firing of geoffrey berman, u.s. attorney general in new york. i mean, it is part of a pattern, though, of just protecting the president. and there were reforms put in place after watergate, to stop just this kind of thing. >> that's exactly right. you know, from the earliest days of this presidency, donald trump

has stepped on all these norms of office post-watergate. where the white house wasn't going to interfere in particular cases. especially, those that might implicate the interest of the president. but it wasn't until bill barr that he had his roy cohn. that he had, as the speaker said, his henchman in that position to essentially do the president's will. no matter how craven that would require the -- the attorney general to be. but that's exactly what we have, here. we have an attorney general, who was willing to mislead the country about mueller's investigation. indeed, mislead the country about his own interactions with mueller. and now, we see a continuation of that, by the effort to force out the prosecutor, the independent u.s. attorney from new york. barr's dissembling to the country about his resignation. barr's dissembling about the u.s. attorney from new jersey who he apparently also misrepresented that berman was

voluntarily resigning. when that is the top law enforcement officer in the country, it spells real danger to the republic. >> house judiciary chairman jerry nadler said he may, in fact, consider impeaching barr. do you foresee that? i mean, is that a real possibility? because obviously, republicans control the senate. would most likely stand behind barr. >> you know, i will leave it to chairman nadler and the speaker to make a decision of that nature, with respect to mr. barr. i do think, though, that it's very important that we expose the full wrongdoing of this administration. both, the wrongdoing of the attorney general, as well as the president of the united states. so that, as we move forward, the american people know exactly what they have in this administration, which is one that does not value our democratic institutions or the rule of law. and, therefore, is a danger to every american. if you think that the president won't go after you, just because

you're a friend of the president. well, you may be right, at the moment. but he will turn on anyone he perceives as a threat. so there is no safety or security, even for the allies of the president. i wish the members of the house and senate, my colleagues in the gop, would realize that. they are vulnerable, too. no american is safe when the attorney general is not looking out for the interest of justice, but only looking out for the interest of a president, who makes common cause with oug autocrats and disdains democracy. >> barr's now set to testify before the house judiciary committee in july. during his senate testimony, he wasn't the most forthcoming with answers. i mean, do you think you can actually learn something this time? >> i think it's important to -- to put the questions to the attorney general. whether he answers them or answers them truthfully, to expose his lack of character to the american people. but, anderson, i think you're right. probably, the more important testimony is the testimony that

we heard today. and that we will hear from other whistle-blowers. and that is people who can expose bill barr's wrongdoing, rather than just hear bill barr deny his own wrongdoing. so i think some of these other witnesses, they may not be as high-profile. but, in fact, they may have even more important things to say. i thought don ayers' testimony today. the former deputy attorney general under george bush, who talked about the systemic threat to the rule of law. it was among the most important testimony that we've heard. so these -- these -- all of these witnesses, i think, are going to be crucial. >> chairman schiff, appreciate your time. for a deeper look at what's going on with bill barr and the president. join jake tapper for new cnn special report "trump and the law after impeachment" this sunday night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. still ahead, tonight. breaking news in the ahmaud arbery case. the young man who was killed when he went for a jog in a georgia town. details in the grand jury's decision on charges. ♪ 1 in 3 deaths is caused by cardiovascular disease. millions of patients are treated with statins-but up to

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the grand jury has indicted the three men accused of killing the 25-year-old man shot to death out for a jog, ahmaud arbery back in february. his murder and video of the deadly encounter sparked widespread outrage and arbery's name is one of the ones protesters have shouted in demanding social justice. with the details, victor blackwell joins us, what happens next, victor? >> the arraignment is next, there's a judicial emergency here because of coronavirus but told by the district attorney in cobb county that it took the jury just ten minutes to return an indictment of nine counts, malice, murder, felony murder, aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal intent to commit false

imprisonment. those murder charges in georgia, if convicted they will receive life in prison. it could go to life in prison without parole or the death penalty. we have not yet learned from the district attorney whether the death penalty will be sought. attorneys for the mcmichaels, gregory and travis, father and son, say should not be rush to judgment. we've heard from the attorney for william roddy who shot the video who says that he was just a witness. >> has the family responded? >> the family was not at the reading of the -- or announcement, i should say, of the indictment today. but the d.a. says as soon as they received that, they called the family and she said they were grateful. there is a statement from an attorney who represents the family who says that they're determined to see the men prosecuted, convicted, and appropriately sentenced. of course the family has waited

a very long time for this. so many weeks for charges and now this. they say justice will come at the end of this trial with that sentence. they hope. >> victor blackwell, thank you. i'll hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> thanks very much, anderson, i appreciate it. hello everyone, i'm chris cuomo, welcome to "prime time." california, texas, and florida. the three most populous states in our country are now bursting with covid cases. thousands of new infections being reported every day. the crisis is getting worse in this country in at least 23 other states. turns out the virus didn't take a summer break, just as we were warned. now, you will not hear the president, and i argue, any republican leader within his earshot, say any of what i just told you. and it is all facts. but here's the truth that we have to now accept. masks matter. the resistance to masks is stupid politics.