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discredited idea that a lot of the increase is due to increase in testing. i'm looking at some of my notes here. there is no predictive models, there was no coherent overview. on what the nature of this crisis is and what the basis is baur beyond the reopening. and the terrible part, for me, is there were no ideas presented. they have no idea what to do. there is no concrete federal plan for helping the metro areas. there was not a single suggestion made. they're now sending some officers from the cdc to analyze the data. really? i mean, we've had this resurgence for two weeks and now they're sending in cdc officers to look at the data. this is a tragedy. and what's more, it's not presented as a tragedy. frr it's presented as we're doing a
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pretty good job and now there are hot spots. these are the largest metropolitan areas in the united states. we're talking houston, phoenix, los angeles. this is the huge increase in acceleration in the epidemic and it's clear that this next part is headed to be far worse in terms of number of cases, in terms of number of hospitalizations. and likely number of deaths. than the first wave was in new york city. so, trying not to sound applektic here, but this is unfortunate. we need, now more than ever, good federal leadership. we need guidance. we need a road map a plan. we didn't see any of that. so, i completely agree with what sanjay said and i would pile on a bit more to say that there is no -- there is no plan for how
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we're going to move forward going down the line. they say the reopening is going well. the reopening has been an unmitigated disaster. >> and the difference between pence describing the reopening and anthony fouchy describing the reopening. dr. anthony fauci talks about a combination of places that opened before they should or when they should but they've done it in a disorderly fashion, he said. or maybe they have opened when they should and it's been orderly, but then citizens are not cooperating. so, it's this combination of events. peter? >> there's been -- there was no organization to what you have to do. my first-year graduate students know how to do this. you put the map up and you say look, this is -- we have a problem. and the problem is this. we have a steep acceleration in the number of cases in a major
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metropolitan areas in the southwestern u.s. we haven't completed our analysis of all the causes but it's pretty clear that we had to -- that, for economic reasons, we reopened ahead of the time when the modelers told us we could go back to containment mode, meaning one case per million residents a day. we don't know the demographics of this rise. we think it's linked to young people. but that's not the only thing going on. we're seeing lots of acceleration in many of the lower income neighborhoods. we're worried about people living in poverty that have difficulty in social distancing. we now have to take steps to bring this back. and this means that simply slowing or halting reopening, maintaining status quo is not adequate, and we now need to
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bring this back and shut down various parts of these metropolitan areas. we know this is a hardship, but we have to focus on saving lives. >> all right. i want to recap what our viewers are -- really what has just happened here. the first white house coronavirus task force briefing in a very long time just happened. and it painted a picture of an alternate reality to what is actually happening in america. the vice president stressing, i think it was at least three or four, maybe more times that we are not in the same place we were four months ago. he was trying to tell americans things have gotten better. they have not gotten better. you hear the medical experts on the ground looking at the data. and as the doctor just explained there, was not one prescriptive proposal for how to get things going better. so, if you listen on the task
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force briefing, you kind of have the sense that things have made -- that a lot of progress has been made, when really, you know, this country is staring down the barrel of a gun when it comes to coronavirus. i want to go to kaitlan collins. she is at the white house. this is where politics at the white house clearly winning out over -- pardon me. you're at the department of health and human services where the task force has just briefed the media. there really is this political message that the vice president is pushing that comes right up against the reality that comes up against the science of what is happening on the ground. but he's really trying to paint a positive picture about where the country is. >> yeah. it's not just a political message. it's the message overall. the vice president saying he didn't want the american people to slip into this place where they tend to think we are where
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we were two months ago. saying we're in a much better situation now. but you look at the numbers yesterday. we surpass the single day of highest recorded cases in the u.s. yesterday. you know on that last day was? in april. that was also around the last time the white house held a coronavirus task force briefing. of course, they did it today eight weeks later and the 70,000 more americans have died since the last briefing. and the vice president only took a handful of questions, even though the room was fill would reporters. he left the room without answering many more questions that we had about that. frrg not only about the fact that he wouldn't endorse the cdc's recommendation you should wear a mask when you're out in public and around other people? he ticked off so many other guidelines of ways you can stay safe, not -- to slow the spread, yet he very, very obviously stayed away from masks. we even let a reporter ask him about that, he said he thought
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people should focus on the local guidance, ignoring federal guidance from the cdc is that people should wear a mask. >> we're going to reestablish her signal there. but to her point, dana, the vice president not embracing the cdc guidance and instead, when asked repeatedly by reporters about masks, he said that americans should look to their state and local officials are guidance and they should follow that guidance. >> reporter: overall, this briefing was bumping up against 5:00 volley territory. and i'm talking vietnam era press briefings, which have become notorious, and now a term that people use for the government trying to tell reporters and the american public something that they don't believe because they see in front of their face something completely different.
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and, to be fair, i don't think that was the case for the medical professionals at this briefing, dr. fauci in particular. but for mike pence to, first of all, start the briefing and talk extensively about how great things are, but more importantly, to, i thought, pretty much abruptly end the briefing after he got a very good, and very appropriate question about why on earth they're sitting there talking about the recommendations for people across the board, particularly focusing on young people. and yet the president and vice president's own campaign didn't follow those recommendations in so many different ways over the past few days. and his answer was well, freedom of speech and responsesability and we have an election coming up this fall. number one, freedom of speech and freedom in the first amendment is not pure. there are so many -- we could sit here for the next two hours,
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brianna, and talk about all of the parts of the law that chip away at that because it is in the public good. and that's just a fact a legal fact and it's just a fact. the other thing is we have an election coming up this fall. that is true. people have a right to express themselves. we live in the digital age. there's so many ways to get their message out. the president got elected using social media, for example. so, that's also a little much. and it really is just so stunning to me that, even somebody like mike pence sitting there with these professionals who he sat in a room with for months and months, and he can't say anything to support the federal government's own guidelines that he seems to not be able to execute because the president of the united states doesn't want it to happen.
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>> and he said they're taking the proper steps, they're screening. i mean, that's just not true. >> that's right. >> temperatures were taken. there's so many people who don't have a temperature. they were not testing, even as we understood, some people might have elevated temperatures and they were set -- exactly. they say they made them available. i want to go back to kaitlan collins. she's outside of the health and human services department. i'm going to have you pick up where you left off. >> and i want to reiterate where they only took a handful of questions from reporters, even though we have many more to ask and several states have paused reopening and in texas we're seeing them scale back and reverse some of those decisions they've made.
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and as dr. burkes is speaking, as they have several experts we have not heard from in several weeks, she was showing us several graphs. and one of those refuted something the president has been saying repeatedly, which is he believes the only reason there are more cases in the united states is because there is more testing. at one point, he showed a graph where you're seeing an outbreak happening right now and their positivity rates was declining. even as their testing has increased and positivity rate is increasing. so, it's obviously attributable to other factors, even though the vice president said he thought was inargiable to say the reason there are more cases is babecause there is more testing. and we had so many more questions for the vice president. i want to stress that and they did not take more than about
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five or six questions from reporters. and one of the biggest takeaways is whether or not they're going to continue to hold thevenevent like you said. he said the number of cases in oklahoma was good, by what they see. eight members of the president's own campaign staff tested positive after they were at that event and dozens of secret service officers are quarantining after two of their colleagues tested positive at that event. >> reporter: thank you. that's such an important reality check, kaitlan. and not to take us back to elementary school math, but the white house will argue, and you hear vice president pence wrongly arguing, there's more testing, so more testing generates cases. if you're tested and you have it, and you're untested and you have coronavirus, you still have coronavirus.
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if you're testing more people, if you have more positivity, then the number -- one divided by another, increasing over time, tells you it doesn't matter you have more testing, you have more positive people relative to testing. >> that's right. you have more infection out there. that's the bottom line. you are finding more of that infection. but the more relevant thing is for so long, because we weren't testing enough, that virus started to spread, and now we're getting better eyes on how significant this problem is. the hospitalization rates in these places are obviously a different measure. that's not something that's going to be directly influencesed by the number of tests. rates are going up significantly in several of these areas. that's because there's a lot of people out there now getting sick. that wouldn't be because they just now got tested.
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they're getting sick and going to the hospital. you have situations where peter is in houston where children's hospitals are being used to take care of adult patients. there's situations in florida where a significant presentedage of the icu beds were filled. in arizona, they've gone into emergency planning moesds because of the concern about hospital beds. none of that is influencesed by more testing. we should be doing ten-times more testing according to the road maps. and by the way, the reason you ultimately do more testing, if you were doing the right amount, the case number should go down, not up. that's because you find people, isolate them. that's why you do it. so, it's false to say the reason the numbers have gone up is because of more testing. and i think most people understand that by now. i hope they do. >> god, i hope they do.
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i hope they do, sanjay. thank you to dana bash and doctor as well. up next 32 states are reporting increase in new cases, including florida, where they're reporting nearly 9,000 new cases. the highest single day reporting since the pandemic. and the governor just ordered bars to close and ordered to contain the spread. texas heading backwards. we'll have a live report next. how do you get skin happy 24/7? aveeno® with prebiotic oat. it hydrates and softens skin. so it looks like this. and you feel like this. aveeno® daily moisturizer get skin healthy™
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in many places, it's slowing douchb. they're hitting the pause or going backwards? >> reporter: we count add 11. what was extraordinary, watching the vice president, was he was saying with pride l 50 states, no mention of the 11 pausing or rolling things back. he also said that 34 states right now are stable. our count is 18. he was talking about the incredible progress that had been made all the while. i'm watching these alerts coming in from states closing down and from california where you, once again a record number of people in the hospital and icu. so, what's happening is some local leaders, more local leaders are now taking action.
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>> at noon in texas, bars were ordered to close once more. >> clearly we opened too fast, too soon. we had a 700% increase in the last 30 days. >> in texas there are more new cases and more covid-19 patients in the hospital than thought before. >> are these restrictions to late? are they enough. >> reporter: today the coronavirus task force met for the first time in nearly two months. >> as we see new cases rising and we're tracking them carefully, there may be a tendency among the american people to think we are back to that place we were two months ago. the reality is we're in a much better places. >> reporter: really? in florida, the day reopening
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began midmay, fewer than 1,000 cases, today nearly 9,000. an all-time record high. they just outlawed alcohol consumption in bars. still no statewide mask order but miami will fine anyone who won't wear one, hoping that helps. >> we don't want to have to go backwards and undo opening and potentially reimpose a stay-at-home order. but we can't dis count that option as a possibility. >> reporter: rolling back in at least 11 states. >> we have an expunengsal rise in many cases and it makes me worried where we're going to be a month from now. >> reporter: meanwhile, new york city, once the scene of so much death, started slower and plans to move forward. >> we're doing pretty well on our own. we're going to be careful about anyone who comes to visit. >> reporter: the white house task force considering what's called pool testing.
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you pool the blood of a bunch of people and test it, if negative, all clear. if positive, then you take the time to test everyone individually. >> pooling would give this capacity to go from half a million test as day to potentially 5 million individuals tested per day. >> the president is tested every day but still seems to think the rest of us are tested too much. >> so, we have more cases because we do the greatest testing. if we didn't do testing, we'd have no cases. >> reporter: and still won't wear a mask, doesn't want to admit he's wrong, says one source. >> right. i do think the president should wear a mask. so many of us are taught and learn about how important loving your neighbor is. we've got to show it now. such a small step that can go such a long way. >> reporter: and this was a little frightening from dr. fauci during the briefing. he said right now what is not
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working is the testing and tracing program within communities. if we're seeing 40,000 or so new cases a day, that testing and tracing is only going to get harder. there's apparently a schism within the coronavirus task force. some of them believe the cdc has been pretty bad at testing from the beginning. and they say it's unbelievable that by now there is not a widespread program in place. >> yeah. this is why federal coordination matters. and we're not seeing it. thank you so much. we have dr. david purse with us now with the houston health department and doctor, thank you so much for yoining us. you said you would not reimploy the statewide lockdown. tell us why. >> there's consequences to that. so, i'm glad the governor took the step he had today. but we have to balance it because when you go to lockdown
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and people wind up without jobs and there are other health care consequences. so, it's got to be a delicate balance. i don't know what the right number is but i'm glad to see what the governor did today. >> so, at the beginning of the pandemic, we were seeing hospitals in new york running out of icu beds, ventilators. are you seeing signs that could happen in texas? >> so, we're really close contact with our medical center, which has most, but not all the hospitals in harris county and houston. and they have plans in place. and for the short foreseeable future, they tell us, assure us they're going to be able to handle it. but there's another problem that hasn't been part of the national conversation and that has to do with how hospitals are paid. it's pitting the elective suqry against the patient that has covid disease and that's a solvable problem, in my opinion. >> and how would you solve it? >> today, if you're the ceo of a
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hospital, then you make money, not a lot, but on elective surgeries. the profit you make, you use to offset someone with viral pneumonia. america needs hospitals to be financially incentivized. they're businesses. so they need to be incentivized to take care of covid patients and in the winter, flu patients. so, when hospitals are over crowded and there's no bed to go to, that's because they're filled with scheduled admissions because that's what the hospital has to have. so, why don't we pay hospitals to take care of the patients we need american hospitals to care for, which is pneumonia pasch ngts and complications. i think that's a fixable problem. >> so, the last hour we heard
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dr. fauci pleading with young people to take more precautions. he said he was seeing people with a risk behave appropriately. he said everyone is part of a dynamic and global system, basically. so a young person, if infected, you're going to pass it on to somebody else and you could be passing it to someone's aunt, whose had radiation, a child who has leukemia. you could pass it to vulnerable people. and said and you will be doing that. he's tried to say, without placing blame, i am kind of holding you responsible for doing that. are you seeing young people hospitalized or what trends are you seeing with young people? >> we're seeing the same trends that other urban areas across the nation are. year seeing the average age of the patient getting younger and younger.
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one, is the virus is clearly got out into the general public and spreading among people who interacts with each other a lot. and we're much more social than into our 40s and 50s. and we've done a pretty good job protecting those in nursing homes. one is the average age is coming down because of the better job protecting nursing homes and the elderly. and the elderly are doing a good job protecting themselves. they're religiously wearing masks and not going to gatherings, whereas younger folks it tend to be doing the things they did. there's nothing evil about a young person. they just need understand they have the same level of responsibility everybody else does. >> we appreciate you joining us from houston where we're experiencing an uptick in coronavirus cases. some 20 million americans are insured through the affordable care act. butted late last night the trump
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colorado's governor has just reopened an investigation into a 2019 deadly police shooting of an unarmed black man, elijah mcclain, 23, who was walking home from a convenience store while wearing a ski mask. his family says he routinely wore the mask because of his blood condition, which left him feeling cold easily. three white police officers stopped him. and when an officer touched mcclain, he resisted contact, saying i'm an introvert, please respect my boundaries and, quote, i'm different. then a struggle ensued, officers wrestled him to the ground, they
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put him in a chokehold and he's injected with ketamine, suffered a heart attack and died. they declined to file charges. police say they were responding to a 911 call about a man wearing a mask, which, quote, looked sketchy. the family's attorney joining me now. and i think i characterize that as, pardon me, shooting. but this was obviously special circumstances that led to his death and very questionable judgment in the case of elijah's death. millions demand ogficials reopen this case. the governor has said elijah mcclain should be alive today. tell us how the family is responding now that, a year later, they're getting renewed attention on the case. >> the family is very happy people are finally saying their son's elijah's name and the
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legacy is the changes in law coming. and it's a sweeping police reform bill. and the house passed a sweeping reform bill too, although i'm told it might not make it through to the senate. it shouldn't take internakzal media attention and shouldn't take a petition signed by millions of people to do what's right in the first place. back last fall we called for an independent investigation into the murder of elijah mcclain. and what did we hear then? krik tsz. on the one hand, they're very happy people are paying attention to now. but this is what should have happened in the beginning, not just in the please killing, but in the killings of so many black and brown people across the united states. >> so, we hear elijah trying to explain he does not want to be touched. almost like he can't be touched, right? he's having resistance to this.
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he's pleading with officers to respect his boundaries. he says i'm just different. tell us more about elijah and the medical conditions he was experiencing. we know he had anemia. was he sensitive to touch? tell us about him and why, clearly, in your view, these are things that should have signalled to police officers that they needed to approach this with sensitivity. >> they had no reason to tackle him, much less chokehold and all of the other things that ensued. the 911 call was simply they thought there was somebody sketchy walking down the street. he was wearing a mask, although we all wear a mask these days. he was listening to his ear buds and walking home from the corner store with ice tea.
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he went to get ice tea. there's no reason they should have contacted him in the first place. and to be clear, the 911 caller said i don't believe he's committed a crime, i don't believe he has a weapon and no one is in danger. there's no probable cause that would have justified a police stop in the first instance. the first thing he says is i'm on my way home. i'm an introvert. please respect my boundaries. and yet they grabbed him and all three of them, then they're inflilkting all kinds of force on him. you hear him saying things like i'm a vegetarian, i don't hurt flies, i don't have a gun, i don't do those things. my name's elijah mcclain. i'm just trying to go home. he's just trying to go about bz without being asulted by police
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and then the ketamine is anotis. he's like 140 pounds and they're on him, he is throwing up, then they inject him with ketamine, which is ridiculous given what his weight is. >> so, he's on the ground, having suffered from two corroded chokeholds, multiple ofrlss on him, each of which greatly out sizes him, and even though they have him cuffed on the ground and holding him in his own vomit, you can hear one saying jokingly don't get that on me. and another who doesn't think he's still alive and says quit messing around or i'm going to bring in a dog to bite you. i mean, talk about cruel and inhumane. it's petraifying to imagine that's a man carrying a badge
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and a gun. but even while he's cuffed, totally passive on the ground just struggling to breathe and saying those horrible words we've heard so many men saying, i can't breathe, before they die, elijah is injected with a massive dose of ketamine by two paramedics. and as you say the dosage they gave him was appropriate if, for anybody, and certainly not for elijah because he wasn't doing anything to justify any kind of chemical being injected involuntarily into his veins. but it would be for somebody who was something like 300 pounds and elijah, as you said, was about 140 pounds. it was a massive over dose of a totally unnecessary drug from a peaceful man that wasn't eevren suspected of doing anything wrong. it's as tragic as it gets. >> the d.a. refused to file charges against the officer.
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one officer said, quote, he just grabbed your gun, dude. i wonder what your reaction is to that. because that's something the officers will say, look, not only was he resisting, he was trying to grab our weapon. that is their defense. >> and if there were any evidence of it, i suppose it would be a defense. but what we have is three officer whose each intentionally knock off their body cameras as they're tackling elijah mcclain. and i know that because you can hear at tloohree different poin in the video, different officers saying move that camera away, dude. turn off the camera. we hear they're intentionally avoiding accountability. we hear he tried to grab your gun, but not with urgency you expect if somebody is grabbing a gun. no fingerprints were recovered from any gun and elijah is a person who would never do such a thing. but it's easy for three officer
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ooze who knock off their camerainize tensionally to create a false narrative by saying he tried to grab your gun. and by the way, the officer whose gun he reportedly tried to grab says i never felt that. so, i don't believe for a moment it even happened. but it doesn't surprise me one bit that aurora police officers tried to create that false narrative. i've, unfortunately, been suing the aurora police for the past decade. it's a department with a long and sorted history of brutality and racism. >> we will be following this case of elijah mcclain, the 140-pound massage therapist who died walking home from the corner store. thank you for coming on. >> thank you so much for having me. irst. first to respond. first to put others' lives before your own. and in an emergency, you need a network that puts you first. that connects you to technology to each other and to other agencies.
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our own jake tappers film is about to hit the big screen. the outpost is based on the true story of a team of american soldiers who fought off taliban fighters at a remote outpost in afghanistan and the film of tapper's national best-selling book the out post is now available to watch. here is a preview. >> i go home and all i end up doing is lying. so what is the point now. >> how about you, sir, are you calm? >> all of the time. >> what about you, carter? >> nothing from me, sir. >> you don't know my ex-wife.
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>> i'm proud to be here. we're going to win with hearts and minds. >> the film hits theaters next friday and also available on demand and jake tapper joining me now. that was one of the more, i would say, calm moments in this movie. because the book is action-packed and so is the movie. it is very intense. i don't want to ruin the storyline for anyone. it is very intense though. just like in your book, the movie captures the taliban, who are targeting this outpost daily and it turns out they've been testing the vulnerabilities of it and it sort of culminated in a battle that is pretty complex for what the taliban carry out here. i want to ask you about the movie. but before that, just talk to us about why it was so important for you to tell this story.
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>> well, it goes back to my son was born on october 2nd, 2009 and the combat outpost keating was attacked like that on october 3rd. and some time during that week sitting in the hospital room with my -- holding my little newborn son, there was just -- i heard about this attack and eight other sons taken from this world. it was the deadliest day for the u.s. in afghanistan that year. and there was just something poignant in the moment of holding my son, hearing about eight other sons taken. and i just wanted to know more, it just set me on this journey of wanting to know who the eight men were who were killed and why was an outpost put there at the bottom of three steep mountains. i covered the war in afghanistan. but remotely from the white house north lawn, as a white house correspondent, i had never been there, and so i dove into this. i wanted to know more about
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these people and it opened up a whole world and the bookends up being an exploration of the war in afghanistan by just looking at this one outpost. and all of the men and women who served there and all of the lives lost trying to construct it, trying to serve there and then ultimately on october 3rd, 2009 trying to defend it. and the director, rod lurie, had a good feel for the material and cast and crew did such a compelling job. it is such a powerful movie and i'm so proud and honored to be even remotely associated with it. >> and i wonder, i was looking through your book as i was watching the movie and one of the things that struck me was how almost exactly alike the picture of combat outpost keating was to what is portrayed in the film. where was this filmed? >> it was filmed outside of sofia, bulgaria, which is where
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millennium films is headquartered. i took my wife and kids to visit the set. now i never got to visit the actual combat outpest because it was destroyed after the battle. and even in embedded with troops in afghanistan, i got as forward as i could, by then they were out of the province so i never got to the actual base. here i was at this recreation in bu bulgaria that was life-like and incredibly realistic and there are three troops, three veterans who served at combat outpost keating who were consultants and acted in the film. henry hughes, tye carter who was awarded the medal of honor and dan rodriguez who played himself in the movie. they said it was eerie, it was weird because it was so similar. and the guy who commanded the
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base, stony portis, he visited too and he couldn't believe it. so they really did an amazing job in recreating the base. and as a viewer, when you watch the movie, they immerse you in it so you almost feel like your serving at camp keating. and it reminds me the way spielberg did in saving private ryan, the beginning when you feel like your landing on omaha beach in d-day, you feel like you're there with the soldiers and that is what rob lurie does so well with the outpost. >> that is exact will you how i would describe it. you felt like you were in the middle of it with them. and i think also to describe what you're in the middle of, it is almost you can't believe the battle they went through. it is almost something that you think is almost made up for television. but it was -- it is intense, i'll tell you that. it is exceptional. i enjoyed watching it. it is a great follow on to your book and we appreciate you
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coming on to talk about it. jake, thank you. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. and our special coverage continues now with brooke baldwin. here we go. same brooke baldwin. thank you to being with me. you're watching cnn. let's get to it. in washington this afternoon, something we haven't seen in nearly two months. members of the white house coronavirus task force speaking publicly to a nation that, in the words of task force member dr. redfield, has been brought to its knees by covid-19. since we last heard from the group, almost 70,000 americans have died from the virus. yesterday was the worst day for new u.s. cases since the pandemic began. makes this outlook from mike pence, the head of the task force, all the more puzzling. >> we stand here today, we believe we've made progress. but as we are reminded, as we see cases rising
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