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i'm jim acosta. thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. ♪ outfront next, an alarming prediction, dr. anthony fauci warns the u.s. is, quote, moving in the wrong direction, predicting the country could see 100,000 new cases awe day. breaking news in colorado, the latest state to announce its shutting back down. and breaking news this hour, the white house warned last year that russians could be offering bounties to kill u.s. soldiers. why is it the white house is saying that the president was just briefed on the plot then? let's go outfront. and good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, dire warning, the nation's top infectious disease expert now warning the united states could see 100,000 coronavirus cases a day if the united states does not stop the
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spread of the virus now. >> the numbers speak for themselves. i'm very concerned and i'm not satisfied with what's going on because we're going in the wrong direction. i would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around. >> wrong direction, 100,000 cases a day. just to be clear, that is more than double the total number of new cases just yesterday, and we have been setting records already. so, that would be more than double the current numbers which are a record. it's a number that would have been unthinkable just a few weeks ago. just to show you, look at these two maps. back in memorial days, a majority of states were holding steady or trending down in new cases even with a huge surge in testing and now only two states are down. you see that map turning all red and orange. the cdc director robert redfield telling lawmakers hospitalizations are up in 12 states and the next thing that follows in the disease is death
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and that in arizona they are seeing increase in the number of deaths. these facts are alarming, yet the president has been silent on coronavirus all day. just a moment ago the only thing he said was to blame china, saying as i watch the pandemic spread its ugly face across the world including the damage it's done to the usa, i become more and more angry at china. the president's allies are doubting silence, listen to rand paul, a doctor, speaking to dr. fauci today. >> we shouldn't presume that a group of experts somehow knows what's best for everyone. >> or south dakota's governor, she too ignoring the advice from medical experts. >> we will have a large event july 3rd. we told those folks that have concerns that they can stay home. but those who want to come and join us, we'll be giving out free face masks if they choose to wear one. but we won't be social distancing. >> so, masks are optional and
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social distancing is not on the table. look, that is a problem. this is pretty basic at this point, okay? i don't need to say it. she doesn't need to hear it from me. she knows it. sadly, though, not a surprise. the reality is this comes from the president and his campaign. the trump campaign was directing the removal of these stickers which reminded his support es to social distance at his tulsa rally. basically every other seat saying don't sit here, we see people pulling the do not sit here stickers off the chairs because they didn't want it to look not crowded. the president wanting the arena to appear packed. even his most ardent supporters have stopped blindly following on this and realized the blatantly obvious fact which is that masks help.
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>> i think they work. i said especially if i wear a mask and it opens up baseball, concerts, nfl football, i'd rather wear the mask and go to the game to protect grandma, grandpa, mom and dad. >> we must have no stigma, none, about wearing masks. >> my home state, i do believe in wearing masks. wearing the mask is the best opportunity for us to keep this economy open. >> that is a fact. without masks, the economy is not going to stay open. that's what you saw in the states where they weren't wearing the things and we're closing back down. look at the world stage. again the president stands alone when it comes to not wearing a mask in public which perhaps explains the words "the lone warrior." jeremy diamond is live outfront the white house. dr. fauci said today clearly the united states is going in the wrong direction. he is seeing possibly a doubling in the current record of cases
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to more than double that, and the president coming out tonight blaming china. >> reporter: yeah, erin, the concern from just about everyone around the president about this latest surge of coronavirus is growing louder and louder. dr. fauci, as you said, not mincing any words on capitol hill today warning about the potential for 100,000 cases a day and saying that there's going to be a lot of hurt in this country if we don't soon turn things around quickly. and every republican leader including vice president make sense now urging americans to begin wearing masks, to try to take away the stigma, particularly that exists among the president's supporters. where is the president? nowhere to be seen on this, erin. in fact the only time we've heard from him today about coronavirus was moments ago in that tweet. what is the president saying? he's talking about china. and while, yes, china may have been the origin for this virus, you see when you compare the united states curve to the european union, there is no comparison here. the president also is going
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about business as usual. he's preparing to go to mt. rushmore on friday and the south dakota governor, kristi noem saying there will be no social distancing at this event where there will be thousands attending. i want to go now to dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner who as you know advised the team under george w. bush and now the cath lab at gw. sanjay, to say the basic, the virus came from china. at this point, that has nothing to do with whether the united states has been able to control its spread. it's a spread point. today you've got dr. fauci saying the u.s. is going in the wrong direction, that he wouldn't be surprised to see 100,000 new cases a day in the united states which is more than double where we are right now. how real is that possibility? >> well, i think it's very real. you know, the the only thing that surprised me is that dr. fauci even said it because he's so, you know, he's so careful. and if anything, he's
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conservative when he gives these numbers. so, if he said that number, you know, erin, it could be even higher than that. you know, these -- these growth patterns don't happen linearly. they don't happen in i stepwise sort of fashion. if you start to get a significant number of people in the country carrying this infection, you could go into significant exponential growth. you would see the steep and vertical growth lines. it's really concerning. it's worth pointing out -- i remember talking to you a couple of months ago when they were looking at projections saying maybe 60,000 people would die by august 4th. it was horrifying. it's the end of june and it's more than double. my point is these models have been all over the place. but it is very clear that they're going up and they're going up in a really rapid, rapid way right now. >> dr. reiner, as we said, you know, there are some saying hospitalizations have gone up. people aren't as sick though,
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death rates happen. we don't know what we don't know. but we do know that the death rate which lags hospitalization by a paerd of time is starting to rise, unfortunately, as we show in ar arz. when you look at the possibility of 100,000 cases a day and what that would mean for the medical system, understanding that surely some of those people would be young, what does that do to the death rate? you could come out with a death rate much lower than what we knew many may. it could be higher. do we have any sense oof what that would mean? >> well, if you simply do the math, 100,000 cases per day multiplied by any case fatality rate you can imagine is an enormous number of patients, is an enormous number of deaths, i should say. we know that mortality is a lagging indicator. and what's so concerning now is that the hospitals and places
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like texas and arizona are filled with people. and many of those people are going to die. if you're sick enough to be hospitalized, you are in danger of succumbing to this disease. if we see 100,000 people per day with this -- acquiring this virus, you're going to see city after city looking like new york in the darkest days of april. it's something that we don't want to see and we don't have to see. what we need to do now is we need universal adherence to mask wearing. with we need had universal adherence to social distancing. we need to cancel every mass gather erg. how is it possible that the governor of south dakota is promoting a mass gathering event in the middle of a pandemic? there can and should be none. there are going to be fireworks in d.c. this weekend and the mayor of d.c. has very rightfully advised people to stay home. my family and i go to that every year. we will watch it from home.
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i urge everyone to stay home and watch fireworks. it is your -- it is really your patriotic duty to do that, stay home. >> sanjay to the point that dr. reiner is making about what we heard from kristi noem in south dakota, the skppt the first lady are planning on attending that celebration, right? and look, it's incredible that one could very clearly say as a badge of pride which is how she did, that there's no social distancing and masks are optional. let me just put a contrast to dr. fauci today and governor kristi noem. here they are. >> you should avoid crowds where possible. and when you're outside and not have the capability of maintaining distance, you should wear a mask at all times. >> we'll be giving outfree mass face masks if they choose to wear one. we won't with social distancing. we're asking them to come and enjoy the freedoms and liberties we have in this country.
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>> sanjay, it's again -- i know you don't want to be political. i find that incenses me she would equate freedom and liberty to the right to not social distance and not wear a mask. it is wrong. it is just awful. >> absolutely, erin. history is going to -- one of these comments is on the right side of history and one is on the wrong side and i think we all know which. i don't think there's anything more that myself or dr. reiner can say in terms of the scientific defense of wearing masks. i mean, you know, there's so many different examples we've given. we've shown what has happened around the world. we've shown in new york, erin, where you are, that health care workers were less likely to get infected than the general population. why would that be? health care workers who are exposed to coronavirus were less likely. because they wore masses. it's pretty remarkable. you see the impact of mask. they're not perfect but they can decrease transmission six fold.
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how are we going to get ahead of these things? how are we going to contain this? we've got to break the transmission. it's not a hearty a virus. it can't jump that far. it's pretty contained by a mask. we could make great progress with bringing these numbers down, but not if you hear what the governor of south dakota just said. that frightens me. it frightens me for the future and frightens me because there are people hearing that thinking we're okay and don't need to do this. >> dr. reiner, it frightens me too because she shouldn't be saying it. she's a smart person. she knows the facts. i don't understand how anybody cannot see reality here. that i think is what's very terrifying, especially when you hear from someone like rand paul who is saying this is personal freedom. for god sakes, this guy is a doctor. he's an eye doctor. >> rand paul is the same guy who while waiting for the coronavirus test to come back took a swim in the senate
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swimming pool. so, i wouldn't take much advice from rand paul. look, there are multiple governors that have done a really good job. we've started to see state houses really take the leadership, governors like cuomo and murphy. if you look at those states, what do those states have in common? t they have the lowest numbers of positivity now in the united states and they have the most number of testing. follow the lead of the governors that have succeeded. the governors need to take the lead. i have to say what we've come to understand is that the president is incapable of managing this. we have to move beyond. we have to move to the people who are capable. and many governors are. we need to follow their lead. not the governor of south dakota right now. >> thank you both very much. i appreciate your time. next bruise, colorado the latest state to shut back down, the governor announcing he's
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breaking news, colorado, the latest state to announce it is shutting back down, ordering bars and night clubs to close again through july as coronavirus cases increase there. and in texas, cases exploding as the state records its highest daily case count ever topping its previous high by about 1,000 cases. nick watt is outfront. >> arizona's average daily death toll about doubled during the month of june. >> our expectation is that next week, our numbers will be worse. >> reporter: in texas, the number of covid-19 patients in hospitals more than tripled during the month of june. >> by memorial day, we had 104 patients in house. we now have 480. we're looking at the fourth of july coming up in a couple of days and frankly it scares me. >> reporter: average daily cases in florida up more than six fold during the month of june. beaches in the south of the
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state also closing again before the fourth of july weekend. >> so, we're in good -- we're not going back closing things. i don't think that that really is what's driving it. >> reporter: today is 162 days since the first confirmed case here in the u.s., but one senior cdc official says this is really the beginning. >> in the united states, daily cases are increasing after an extended decline. >> reporter: and the death rate. >> it is going to be very disturbing, i will guarantee you that. >> reporter: but it might not be too late. >> it is critical that we all take the personal responsibility to slow the transmission of covid-19 and embrace the universal use of face coverings. >> reporter: but in at least 10 of the 15 states right now suffering record number of new cases, there is no statewide mask mandate, but you should still wear one.
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>> specifically i'm addressing the the younger members of our society, the millennials and generation z. >> reporter: the economic pain is obvious and crippling, people camping overnight outside an unemployment office in oklahoma. but dr. fauci says states must not open too fast, and we all must stop doing this. >> congregation in a bar inside is bad news. we've really got to stop that. >> reporter: starting tomorrow, the european union will let travellers the in from 14 countries and china if they reciprocate, but not from the united states. >> reporter: now, here in los angeles county, they've already said they are going to close these beaches friday and keep them closed throughout july 4th weekend. the governor of california says this weekend he's particularly concerned about extended family gatherings. maybe you show up with a mask and good intentions but then let
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your guard down. governor newsom says that tomorrow he is going to announce some more restrictions. erin. >> all right, nick, thank you very much. i want to bring in now dr. asheesh jha, director of the harvard global health institute. colorado ordering bars and night clubs closed as the 18th state to shut back down or pause reopening. when you look at this and where we are, when you are starting to see the explosive growth we recognize in terms of the curve, will this partial shut backdown, closing bars and beaches, will it help enough? >> yes, erin, thank you for having me on. we've been watching this for a while, right, and we've been talking about these increases. as i look at what's happening in these states -- first of all i think it's important we shut down bars and get rid of indoor gatherings. i am deeply worried that it's not enough, that states have let
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infections get too big and they're heading towards a shelter-in-place order which is what we all wanted to avoid, not all states, but i worry more and more states are heading towards that unless they get more aggressive in their actions. >> and the northeastern states, this was the hardest hit area, where you are, where i am. we heard the ambulances every day go by. so, the reopening has been much more slowly. people here are much more aware of what this can look like. and now you have all these states, the whole cluster of states that have seen such significant improvement are those states. is it inevitable that cases will go up in those states. i guess the answer is of course it's inevitable, but at a fast rate. but at a rate that can be controlled, especially when the rest of the country is on this exponential curve right now. >> i think it's up to the states what happen next. obviously things will start going back up a little and the
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question is is it a little and you can get on top of it with testing and tracing, or is it explosive growth where you have to shut things down? i am increasingly coming to believe it's going to be very hard during this entire pandemic for us to open bars, indoor dining may be too difficult. but the bottom line is we've got to let data driven act a lot quickly. i think a lot of states in the south and southwest let case numbers get too big before they acted. >> researchers at florida atlantic university studied the effectiveness of different masks. they found cone shaped and well fitting masks were most effective. little to no effect when it came to droplets. they did find that virus droplets often travelled more than the six feet we've all been told. so, what does this say about this whole six feet rule of thumb? >> yeah, so, i -- look, i don't think it changed my views in any
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meaningful way. no one ever thought six feet was magical, but six feet does help in most instances. is eight better than six? sure on the marchens. but the key is to keep away from people you haven't been spending time with. i think again we're learning about the best ways of doing masks. i still believe that most of the evidence out there says any kind of face covering is much better than none at all. but it may turn out as these studies are done that certain type of face coverings end up being better than other. we just have to let more studies and data come in on that. but very clear face coverings help. >> dr. jha, i appreciate your time. >> thank you, erin. next the white house trying to explain what the president knew about a potential plot to kill american troops and when he knew it. >> the president does read and he also consumes intelligence verbally. plus researchers tonight say one woman sparked an outbreak that infected at least 71 people. so, then what happened?
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breaking news, the white house received intelligence in
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early 2019 that russians were offering bounties to kill u.s. troops in afghanistan. this is according to a source familiar with the situation. it comes after cnn learned the threat was also included in a presidential daily brief earlier this spring. outconfirming or denying that president trump read it, the white house insisted he reads his briefs despite widespread reports that he does not. >> the president does read and also consumes intelligence verbally. this president, i'll tell you, is the most informed person on planet earth when it comes to the threats that we face. >> the president secretary also said that president trump has finally been briefed on the intelligence. outfront now, the chairman of the house armed services committee, democratic congressman adam smith. he was briefed today at the white house on this issue. congressman, i appreciate your time. tell me what you can tell me about what you learned today in the briefing. >> i mean, it was very disturbing. the the biggest thing we learned is it doesn't seem like the
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president or anyone senior in the administration really reacted much to the information that they got. and i can confirm that there is credible intelligence suggesting that the russians were paying bounties to afghans to kill americans and other coalition partners. and there is some dispute about exactly the level of confidence in the intelligence that they had, but there's clear intelligence that this is distinctly possible. and as near as we could tell in the brief, the white house didn't really react to it very much including when "the new york times" story broke. it seemed like all they wanted to do was make clear that the president didn't know anything. that's not reassuring. we want to know what they're going to do about it. >> right. and of course obviously the intellectual inconsistency i suppose there saying that the president reads the daily brief. not only do we knows that not true most of the time but it was included in the brief, so if he reads the brief he would know about it. but he says he wasn't briefed on
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it. just to make it clear to the viewer the issue sheer. the white house received intelligence on the threat more than a year ago. those threats were passed to the then national security adviser john bolton. so, do you buy that intelligence like this would make it all the way to the white house to the national security adviser and no one would verbally tell the president? >> i would be very surprised though i don't share his press secretary's confidence in how well-informed he is on issues. my goodness, look what he still says about covid-19 and our response. i sincerely hope that this man is not the most informed man on the planet, otherwise we are in serious trouble. it's hard to say. the one thing i do know is that the bhous did not react to this in the way they should. part of the problem here is you should mentioned national security adviser john bolton. we were briefed this morning by mark meadows, dni radcliff was
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there, director of national security, and the current national security adviser mr. o'brien. and none of those three people have been in the administration for longer than eight months. and radcliffe and meadows have been in their jobs for three or four months. a lot of what we were talking about, they always said i wasn't here then. the lack of consistency in the administration i think is harming their ability to skron consistent policy. >> so, according to "the new york times," in april 2019 car bomb in which three u.s. marines were killed is being looked at as one possible attack linked to those russian bounty payments because people said what are the specifics. they're look at this one in particular. have you seen evidence that there could be connection to this case or others. >> when you say any evidence, there is evidence that -- which i can't get into in detail. there's not a direct smoking gun link to that particular event,
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but there are a series of steps that make it distinctly possible that that is true. there is enough evidence there to certainly warrant further investigation and enough evidence to look more deeply into what russians are doing in afghanistan. and i would submit more -- enough evidence to have a more skeptical view of our relationship with russia and to put pressure on them instead of inviting them in to the g7 to push back against them and let them know that there is going to be a cost if they are in fact doing things like this in afghanistan. >> all right. chairman, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thanks, erin, i appreciate it. and outfront now, former republican congressman mike rogers. chairman, i appreciate your time. a source telling cnn the white house was warped about these russian bounties to kill american troops more than a year ago in early 2019. we sbhave been told that it wasn
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the presidential brief this spring. the president says he reads it. many people say he doesn't and they insist he was never briefed on it. i guess they mean verbally. what's your reaction to that? >> well, my biggest concern here is the fact that you have soldiers in the field who are at risk. so, they're performing incredibly dangerous missions on a good day when you have the russian government paying taliban fighters a bounty for possibly killing them. that's a-whole-nother day in their life. so, i'm concerned that, a, we didn't put the safety of our soldiers in the field at a higher priority to actually get an all-hands-on-deck look and review of this information and then start pushing back on the russians. this notion that i'm not sure, i wasn't here long enough, i don't know, none of that cuts it for somebody who shows up in the dust in afghanistan trying to do god's work there. i will tell you this notion this is becoming partisan, it seems
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to me there's a disconnect from the collection of that data or that intelligence and that information as it flows through that chain of command through the nsc to the president. we had policy makers making serious decisions releasing taliban fighters back on to the battlefield. we have the -- talking about the g7. the peace deal that many argue is not a great deal, we're just given a lot to get a little. all of that needs to be informed by what the russians are doing. they are not our friends there and may in fact be paying people to kill u.s. soldiers. that's a problem. >> obviously will hurd last night, former cia operative, he wants to make it clear to the american people that if this is happening this is a chaeng in what's the russians are doing.
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not being our friend is different than the bounty payments. when it came to the president's defense here being no one told me about it, which forget the fact that doesn't add up with the reporting out there, congressman hurd's point was this, which was where he thought the president's anger should be placed. >> if something this sensitive was out there, i'd be pissed that nobody brought it to me or didn't read it to me and say hey, boss, there's information you need to read today. make sure we cut out time in your calendar in order to do that. >> and yet that is not what we've heard, chairman. we haven't heard him say no one told me, and i am livid about that. that's not at all what we've heard. >> exactly. i mean, i would have felt better if the president would have come out and said either i'm not aware of it or i haven't been briefed on it but i guarantee i'm going find out about it and we'll take corrective action. instead they spent four days
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trying to figure out who they should be blaming for this. when you have soldiers in the fie field, that should be the first priority miking sure they have everything they have to be safe and effective in their mission. clearly given all this time that went by and that information didn't get down to the right people or at least the senior people and policy makers engaged in these discussions -- i'm going to disagree a little bit with my friend mr. hurd, we watched the russians progressively get more aggressive. it's not a huge laeap. and you could probably see that escalation happen where they were given weapons. we were talking about pulling out, they ramped it up. why? they wanted to discredit the united states and discredit nato. there's lots of motive here to do this. it is aggressive but we feed had to pay attention to this and we need to pay attention to the fact that our soldiers ought to
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tonight, chinese researchers discovering a new swine flu that they say has the potential to become a pandemic. one health expert in the u.s. saying this could be catastrophic. david culver is outfront with this report from beijing. >> reporter: a new virus with pandemic potential emerging once again out of china. this accord to a new study published in a u.s. science journal. chinese researchers warning the disease can infect humans. >> it's not an immediate threat where you're seeing infections but it's something we need to keep our eye on just the way we did in 2009 with the emergence of the swine flu. >> reporter: experts say this gu
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swine flu called g 4 is descendant from h1n1. it killed up to an estimated half a million people globally. while scientists caution this new virus does not pose an immediate global health threat, they warn that once transmitted from pig to human it could lead to severe infection and even death. >> if we have at the same time new waves of the coronavirus and a bad flu season or swine flu, it is a catastrophic future we could face. >> chinese officials made the discovery during a pig surveillance program. they collected more than 30,000 nasal swab samples from pigs across ten chinese provinces. of the 179 swine flu viruses identified one kept showing up year after year. it was the g 4 virus.
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in two chinese provinces, hubei and shandong, 10% were positive for the virus. while not seen with the g-4 virus, human to human transmission is why doctors believe covid-19 spread so rapidly. it is what chinese officials in wuhan down played and have been accused of covering up early on in the novel coronavirus outbreak. china denies they ever covered up key information. when asked tuesday about how china is handling the pathogen, a former spokesperson said they are watching it closely adding that they will take all necessary measures to prevent the spread and outbreak of my virus. late tuesday, china's government controlled media quickly down played the virus stressing that disease control experts said the public should not overreact and hog farms have somehowed no signs of disease. they also cited an unnaumed chinese veterinary expert who claimed this new virus is
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preventable. but erin, no doubt allegations of china's early mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak along with criticism makes any new virus emerging from this country all the more worrying. we're hearing from chinese researchers with distinct highly contagious strain of the coronavirus. they believe it was imported the from a woman returning home from china from the u.s. in march. they say she was systematic and infected 71 people in her apartment building. it is a claim that plays into a popular government narrative here that stressed in recent months that the greatest coronavirus threat is external, that is, erin, from outside of china. >> all right, thank you very much. appreciate it. and next, dr. anthony fauci now warning there's no guarantee that a vaccine will be ready by the end of this year. and the former officer who shot rayshard brooks granted bond
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tonight dr. anthony fauci warning a coronavirus vaccine is, his words, that we will have a safe and effective vaccine. hopefully, there will be doses available by the beginning of next year. these are the things that we feel aspirationally hopeful about. >> "outfront" dr. ian lip kin. he was the virologist behind "contagion."
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there is no guarantee of a vaccine. based on what you're seeing and you're looking at different options and technologies, how confident are you we'll have a vaccine in hundreds of millions of doses available by the end of the year? >> thank you for inviting me this evening, erin. i'm very -- i'm confident that we will have many vaccines, the question is how effective will they be? can we produce them in mass quantities and will we be able to disburse them and will people take them. there is an anti vaccine summit in this country that is challenging, as well. i think we're there. actually, there are several vaccines i think are excellent candidates and i think we could produce by the end of the year. >> that's good. i'm glad to hear that. that's sort of what a lot of -- some experts said but dr. fauci did suddenly seem more cautious. you think several excellent candidates and i want to make it clear, we need several to get the doses and different vaccines to different people.
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i want to ask you also, dr. lipkin about the report before the break out of china and chinese researchers saying they discovered this new swine flu they say is the potential to become a pandemic and 10% of workers on pig fares tested positive for the virus. one expert says it could be catastroph catastrophic. i know you know about this and other possible candidates people are aware of. what do you think about this one? >> well, their infectious disease is emerging and remerging all the time. the fact we're hearing about this new in advance of any sort disease is evidence that things have changed in china. there is a recognition that they need to share these kind of information. so i think earlier there was a suggest that people might be withholding data. if that were the case, we wouldn't have heard about this virus. we don't know it's going to become a pandemic. we know it's infected some human
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beings but that doesn't mean it's going to extend and cause larger amounts of disease. >> so the world health organization is now sending a team to china next week to look into the origins of the coronavirus and you've been talking to them and studying this closely. you traveled to china earlier this year on this issue. what is your current working for this started. did it leak out of the lab inadvertently and you didn't think that was likely but where are you now? >> we need to find where this virus originated. one possibility may be there were individuals infected with this virus who happen to go to the seafood market in wuhan where they met colleagues doing similar collection of wild animals and such and that's the reason there was this focus around this particular market. we think this virus originated in a bat.
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it probably moved into a human or some intermediate host like a small mammal and from there adapted to humans and began to spread. as you know, it began with one virus. it was very sort of characteristic and we saw spreading first throughout china and went to the west coast of the united states, primarily seattle and then there was another version, another wave that went through europe and came to the united states. and that is the more successful virus, it's the one that outcome petes the first one. we don't know a great deal about it yet except it differs in a key protein that allows it to attach to cells and to cause more disease. so there are at least two major strains of this svirus and movig and circulating throughout the world. the latter one is the one people are more focused on and ironically, this virus may have returned back to china and caused a second wave of disease within china.
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>> that's the thing. we're all in this together. as the united states fails as managing it, you're not going to be able to keep borders close. it's going to boomer bang back. appreciate your time and thank you. >> pleasure, thank you. next, the officer charged with killing rayshard brooks refusing to give investigators the password to his phone. why?
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the now fired atlanta police officer charged in the death of rayshard brooks this month could be released on monday as early as tonight. diane gallagher joins me now. what happened? why did the judge let him out?
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>> so essentially, erin, the judge determined she did not think he would be a flight risk and she didn't think he was in jeopardy of not showing up to court. this after rayshard brooks' widow timyka miller would fear for her own life and her own sa sanity with that officer out on the street. the $500,000 bond that was set does come with quite a few conditions including the fact that the fired officer rolfe would have to have an ankle monitor on at all times. he has a curfew and can have no weapons and can have no contact with rayshard brooks' family, any witnesses or alleged victims on scene. one interesting thing here, erin, he would not be allowed to have any contact with any other atlanta police officers. the defense -- excuse me, the state said that they were still working to get some more information on contact that he may have had in conversations he may have had in the time since that shooting.
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>> all right. diane, thank you very much. of course, not handing over his cell phone password, either. appreciate your time. "a.c. 360" with anderson starts now. good evening. let's get straight to it. today the country's most trust odd official on the pandemic gave the sharpest warning yet where things could be headed and whether he intended it that way or not was a stark indictment of how we got here. >> based on what you're seeing now, how many covid-19 deaths and infections should america expect before this is all over? >> i can't make an accurate prediction, but it is going to be very disturbing, i will guarantee you that because when you have an outbreak in one part of the country, even though in other parts of the country they are doing well, they are vulnerable. i made that point very clear