she does go home. her family set up a gofundme page. you see the info there on the screen. we wish sylvia and her entire family in the weeks and months and years ahead. the news continues right now. i'm going to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris? >>ester, a great name. a huge, towering figure in the bible. gives us -- gives the jews the holiday of -- she was a fighter. she fought for her people and will fight now. anderson, thank you, my friend. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." 127,000 dead. the task force says we could be heading to 100,000 cases a day. that's the bad news. what's the good news? there's a chance. and the key is the same as it's always been, my brothers and sisters, we must be together, as ever, as one. you, me, and a perversely self-interested president makes three. will tonight be the night that trump finally tells people to

socially distance and wear a mask? we'll see. plus, you've likely seen this video. husband and wife taking up arms after protestors showed up in front of their house. what were they afraid of? is this the portrait of where america is right now? others talk about this. i say let's talk to the people in it. we have the husband who held that long rifle as his wife aimed a handgun at the crowd. what do you say? let's get after it. fact or fauci versus fiction. that's where we are tonight. here's dr. fauci. >> one of the things that i would like to see is an appreciation on the part of our entire nation of the importance of responding as a nation, as a whole, and not have a situation where when you have a challenge such as we have right now, we

have very disparate responses. we've got to do it in a coordinated way because we are all in this together. >> one, that tells you we have no coordinated national response 100-plus days into this. think about that. six months ago is when we learned about this. fauci's, who is on the task force, says we still don't have a national response. think about that and then put it in contrast to the president who is clearly -- forget about together -- he's only in it for himself, and the trumpets blowing his tune of avoidance, like this guy. >> we're not -- we're not going back, closing things. i don't think that that really is -- is what's driving it. i mean, people going to business is not what's driving it. >> really? here's what's going on. captain, there is a storm ahead. our course is set. i don't think it's a problem. captain, we're taking on water. the pumps aren't working. course is set. my boss says the storm is gonna go away.

that's desantis playing to trump. playing to trump like a captain trying to be like the guy on the costa concordia. remember how that ship wound up? bink. here is the picture from 2012. i remember, too. you know how i remember? i was there. still had that great jacket. don't have that great hair. the captain in that case was worried about his own fate. he literally left everyone else to die. who will sound the alarm here that happened in that case? do you remember the famous words, [ speaking italian ] get back on board, you jerk. you're the captain. lead people to safety. who will tell trump to start thinking of everyone else and start addressing what he avoids, the need for masks and distancing and central planning, reopening with smarts, and to avoid what he is addressing, division, making people think this isn't that bad.

and rewarding cronies like governor desantis and others who through recklessness and silence are literally making us sick. pro tip, mr. president, avoiding this is only making it worse. and, yes, your re-election may well come down to this moment. time to get back on the ship and find a better course. [ speaking italian ] get back at the helm. lead us. the storm is here. 15 states saw their highest seven-day averages for new daily cases as of yesterday from alaska to florida. the united states is a country united in crisis. when will this white house get that? let's bring in the chief dr., sanjay gupta. sanjay, is there any rationale to avoid what we are seeing as being anything but urgency that

requires urgent change? >> no. i mean, people -- you can't think of this in terms of the short-range or long-range sort of planning right now. it's now. things have to be done right now. because we're seeing these numbers sort of gather steam, like a big ship, chris. it gets so much inertia it becomes hard to slow down and you're adding more and more fuel to the fire with all these microdecisions we hear, people not wearing masks, airlines starting to crowd people back on the planes again. all those microdecisions are more fuel for that fire. and it's, you know, we've got to do everything we can right now to slow this thing down. and then sort of reassess. but there is no -- there's no -- no need or no rationale at all to wait on any of these decisions now, chris. >> microdecisions that are co-efficient of macro misunderstandings. governor desantis, i don't think people going to businesses is the problem. politicians in texas, no, i think it was probably the protesters.

you know, that's why things are changing. those are just nonsensical assertions, or do i have it wrong? >> no, i mean, at this point because there is so much inertia going into this growth of cases because there is so much virus out there, we have to do everything we can to pull it back. i mean, governor desantis, you know, he was, as we know, i mean, you've shown the clip. he was doing victory laps and i think the entire state took a cue, and the cue was the virus really started to spread throughout that state. so even now compared to a month ago, the same strategies you would have used a month ago. the idea of sort of, like, maybe starting to incrementally let things happen, you can't do that now. we lost that chance. we lost that opportunity. we lost that ability to make the decision. the virus is now making the decisions for us. you know, the idea people are still saying, you know, we're weighing the decision about masks, we're weighing the decisions about reopening. you can keep doing that, but the reality is the virus will make the decision for you. hospitals will become too crowded. people won't have anywhere to

go. the virus is going to -- is going to dictate all that. it's already happening in some of these places, chris. >> well, the good news is that in florida, at least everybody at the briefing today had masks on, including the governor. we're still not getting that at the federal level and we have this bizarro situation going on where fauci and now we've heard from others saying, you know, we really need a coordinated national effort. they're on the task force. the vice president is in charge of the national task force and we don't have a national strategy? have you ever heard of anything like that? >> no, i mean, this -- this is -- i don't even know how to answer that question, right? i mean, there's -- i've never heard of anything like that. the fact that we still don't have a tsunami of activity around some of these things, tsunami of activity around testing, a tsunami of activity around masks, around the contact tracing, all these things. each of these things separately should have had almost their own task force to make it work. that was something zeke emanuel

talked about, but we don't have anything that draws these things together. and i will tell you, i think even within the task force there is some friction over some of these things because -- because of the lack of action. i mean, two months ago they were saying, hey, we're anticipating a big breakthrough in testing. we're going to make it so people scan get tested anywhere, any time. >> didn't happen. >> some sense of normalcy again. didn't happen. >> we had a kid on my team who got tested prophylactically because she wasn't feeling great. took days and days. >> that should not be the case here. you want to get back to normalcy, you want to be able to go into the studio with your team if you could get tested on some sort of regular basis, that would go a long way. by the way, they do that at the white house, as you know. >> they don't wait six days to get the results. >> they get it right away and they do tests daily there and that's good. but why can't we do that in other places in the country? to get back to some sense of normalcy as well. >> now, also, something -- go

ahead. make your point and then i want to make a point you also made. >> today, six months -- today, six months to the day -- >> yep. >> -- when we first heard about this -- this strange cluster of pneumonia out of china. now we see 10 million people infected, 500,000 people dead. six months to the day, chris. >> national emergency's been over 100 days. i think almost 110 days and we just had dr. fauci say -- and he hasn't been the only one to say it. there is no national coordinated plan to deal with these situations. now, something that you pointed out, important for people. because people are making the right choices. all over the place i see them wanting to cover their faces. but what you use matters. will you put up the full screen of how far coughs travel based on different materials that sanjay's team gave us, lees? i'll read them out loud. >> yeah. >> okay. none, 8 feet is the typical cough travel distance. bandana, 3.6. folded hanky, 1.25.

a commercial cone mask, 8 inches. stitched mask, two layers, 2.5 inches. so the farther you go away from the actual masks that people are wanting you to wear, the more it can go. boy, bandana, 3.6, huh? that sucks. a lot of people wearing bandanas. >> you got to fold it over, i mean, you know, that makes a difference. we have the video. you can show the actual video of what it looks like in someone who is masked vts non-masked. it's not perfect, but you start to do the math there and you'll see that's an exponential decrease in transmission. >> is that you coughing? >> there it is. that is not me coughing, no. that is a -- that is a model -- now, put the mask on this person and you're going to see how big a difference it makes if you do this under a -- >> ooh. >> take a look. all right. so a little bit of virus coming out. not getting very far. not really affecting anybody other than the person themselves. you know, chris, i thought about this myself for some time. this is an invisible particle,

right, an unseen enemy, as we call it, what if you could see it? >> would change everything. >> and it tethered by six feet. yeah, it would change everything, right? >> it would change everything. >> we can't see it, therefore we think about it not being real. >> you know how i know it's true. i'll tell you how i know. when i was at abc news 100 years ago, okay, we started doing black light stories on the kind of funk that you find wherever people congregate. hotel rooms, you know, everywhere, and it changed -- i've never had stories react the way that did for people to see what was on the doorknob and the ceiling and the this and the that. it changes when you can see it. if people saw it coming out of people's faces, we'd feel differently. i don't even think we'd need the guidance from above, from the federal officials in the white house, but right now we do. if our president doesn't acknowledge that we need masks and to social distancily distan

not going to get to where we need. sanjay, i got to jump. you always give the right message. that's just one of the many reasons i love you. i still think that was you in model. that's okay. if you don't want to go with the story, we won't go with it. >> love you, chris. >> love you, brother. the trump campaign just scrapped plans for an alabama rally next week. why? fears over the rising covid rate. but when it comes to the mother of all photo ops, mount rushmore, and we know why this president just can't resist going there. he's going to take the risk for everybody else. thousands are expected in south dakota this weekend. no need for social distancing, says the governor. we're doing great here. let's talk to a key ally in south dakota. about whether or not this is the right move. and if so, why. next.

hey it's me, lily from at&t. i'm back working from home and here to help. hey lily, i'm hearing a lot about 5g. should i be getting excited? depends. are you gonna want faster speeds? i will. more reliability? oh, also yes. better response times? definitely. are you gonna be making sourdough bread? oh, is that 5g related? no, just like why is everyone making sourdough now... but yes, you're gonna want 5g. at&t is building 5g on america's best network. visit att.com to learn more. the show goes on this friday at mount rushmore despite the coronavirus. why? because the president wants it. >> we will have a large event july 3rd. we told folks that have concerns they can stay home. but those who want to come and join us, we'll be giving out free face masks if they choose

to wear one but we won't be social distancing. >> the fourth of july festivities typically draw close to 30,000 people. this year you add in a presidential visit and return of fireworks after 11 years at the site, this could be the largest event in the country since the pandemic started. is that a good thing? let's bring in congressman dusty johnson to see if this is what he wants to do during a health crisis. good to see you, congressman, thank you for taking the opportunity. i hope you and your family are healthy during this time. so, are you happy that your state will have the distinction of having the most people crowded into a place during a pandemic? >> well, let's be clear, chris, we're not talking 30,000 people, we're talking a limited number of tickets, 7,500 folks in an outdoor venue with health screening available. everybody is going to be given a mask. and you know what? i recommend they wear them. i thought your last segment was very insightful. i think that's important.

one more thing, south dakota, the landscape is unique. we only have 62 covid patients hospitalize across the entire state. our number of cases are going down. this is not texas. this is not california. this is not florida. and, frankly, we know that we can do this in south dakota because in the wake of the death of george floyd, we had protests. we had large numbers of people together in close proximity. they were wearing masks. they were outside. we did not see a spike in infections and i think celebrating our country is every bit as important as protesting it. >> of course, celebrating the country matters. it's not this or that. right? it's about how. having thousands of people in one place, why not do it with social distancing? >> well, i do think you want to make sure that when any time you have these events that you are being -- you're being driven by good data and what we know from people like gottlieb and birx and fauci is if you got a community or area that has 80%

mask compliance, the rate of transmission goes down by more than 90%. i encourage everybody at mount rushmore to wear that mask. >> so why don't you tell them to wear the mask if you know the 80% number is key and you are not going to have them socially distance, why make it an option? >> well, and i would just say this. this has been run by the national park service. these are dedicated professionals who understand how to run an event like this and and governor noeme has done a good job with this. people across this country, they were shutting down their states, he ran it a different way. the data shows you don't have to shut down an economy to keep people safe. >> congressman, we both know a huge reason south dakota has been spared because it doesn't have density and population the way other states does. the idea staying opened helps you avoid coronavirus is absurd. i'm not talking about the parks department. i know they do a great job. i've been around them for

decades, okay? i've seen them do their jobs in the worst of situations. they're beautiful people. >> beautiful. >> they're not making the call about the masks, you are, the politicians are. why should masks be optional when the only way you stave off the virus in a congested place is by having one? why isn't it mandatory? >> well, listen, you do have governors out there who understand the different landscapes need to be treated differently. the governor of new york is treating the people of south dakota differently than he is the people of florida. he understands florida is a hot spot and that a different risk management approach is needed to florida folks than it is for south dakota folks. >> it's not an apples to apples comparison. it's not apples to apples, dusty. >> if the governor of new york can treat the people of south dakota differently, why can't the governor of south dakota? >> okay, good question. here's the answer. because it's about the basis for the choice. andrew is saying -- and, look, you can criticize the choice. i can criticize it. but i have plans for this weekend that involve my family. so what i'm saying is this.

the basis for the governor of new york with florida is, your cases are out of control and you're not doing what you need to do to control them. this is not apples to apples in south dakota because you don't have the problem with cases. let's move away from that analogy. it's cumbersome. let's deal with the specific analogy, you were correct, congressman, dr. fauci does say 80% of compliance with masks gives you a great chance of cutting down on viruses, but that means you should make them mandatory. not optional. because you will not get the masks, especially at a trump rally, if you make them optional because a lot of people who support the president, as you know, have magically been convinced that a mask is weakness and may be an insult to him. >> well, and let me be very clear about this, a mask is not weakness. i wear a mask all the time in the cole. >> good. >> i wear it when i'm going to

thunes ard wear. i wear it in close proximity to people. my government doesn't tell me i got to do that. i do it because it's the right thing to do. i think the people on mount rushmore should wear a mask. people feel like government is the only entity that has all of the answers and then there are people that feel like, you know what, we need to collectively step up as communities, societies and families and make good decisions. i think we're going to get better compliance long term, chris, if we work together to get this done, rather than have some sort of edict from washington, d.c. >> but the edict from washington, d.c. isn't about how to raise your kid. it's about what you know as a matter of fact helps you in this situation. i guess, dusty, what i'm having trouble understanding is, i get the argument that big brother's telling us how to live our lives and we don't like it, but that's different than a situation where the data suggests that this is best and perhaps given the way

you've set up this event your only chance of seeing no viral spread on any mass scale. isn't it a noh brain tore s-bra people, look, we're not doing social distancing, which is dumb, but let's wear masks to give ourselves a chance. period. h >> where is all this love of mandatory big government regulations when we had people rightfully executing their first amendment rights across the country. many of them were wearing masks. they should have been. good for them. it seems to me the love of big govt -- >> wherever is this big government. fauci says 80% and -- >> who gives a damn about big or small government. >> why would the standard be different for tens of thousands of people out protesting their government, which they have an absolute first amendment right to do it as long as they do it peacefully. why would you have the rules be different for them than people

celebrating their country? >> a protest is not organized by official entities. >> sometimes they are. >> we wanted to keep the police and the protestors from clashing. imagine what we would have done if we were enforcing mask policies. and as you did point out, a lot of the protestors did wear masks. maybe they will at this event as well. but it's no apples to apples and, again -- >> why -- >> i see a political convenience being played in a situation that should be about public health. >> political convenience is saying, well, as long as there's not one organizer we don't need a rule to -- >> this is organized by government, dusty. the protests weren't. >> you can still have rules and regulations. >> for a protest? >> absolutely. listen, everybody, these are the rules, you got to follow the rules. conveniently, cnn and your show weren't calling for that. >> dusty, i was talking about superspreaders at the protests. >> yes. >> we had multiple segments about how it's going to be wrong, but you cannot believe that this is apples to apples. you are organizing this by

choice. those are protests of people who in many cases are angry and outraged and we're trying to keep the temperature down. we -- forget about me. i cover it. you are trying to keep it down. you make the decisions about how the police deal with protestors on a large scale. and to have them enforce a no-mask policy when they're already hitting the streets because of police intervention in their lives would have been madness. it's not apples to apples, unless you're only looking at this through a partisan lens. the left like the protests. why don't they like our fireworks display? i think that's unfair and counterproductive. >> chris, you want to talk about political convenience. political convenience is wanting to have anne tie entirely diffe set of rules for people protesting their country than celebrating it. >> more would be if it were mandatory. i appreciate you coming heerg to make the case. you always have on invitation to do so. god bless you and your family. >> thanks, chris.

all right. video running all over the place. yes, yes, yes, bring it on in social media. let me know what you thought of the segment, but what did you think when you saw this? the video of the house and wife pulling out their guns when protesters went by their mansion. do you think they were under siege? what do you think about this reaction? should they have been afraid? i wanted to hear their side of the story because i honestly believe this is a metaphor for our country right now. and it's no way for us to move forward together. so let's have the conversation. mark mccloskey is here to take us through what he saw, what he feared, and the rationale that he and his wife used. let's listen up. ahead. i am totally blind. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor, and call 844-214-2424.

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a lot of videos go viral. i've been in a few. but few catch the eyes of the president who retweeted an article about this.

>> keep moving. >> the scenes of a missouri couple pointing guns at a crowd of protesters. mark and patricia mccloskey, that's who they are. now, they claim the demonstrators smashed through the gates of their private street then rushed toward their house while their family ate dinner outside. the mccloskeys say they warned the group they were trespassing, arguing that the people didn't stop. they say they saw several protestors were armed themselves so they called the cops. >> it was like the storming of the bastille. the gate came down. a very large crowd of angry, aggressive people. i was terrified we would be murdered within seconds, our house would be burned down, our pets would be killed. >> now, the protestors weren't there for the mccloskeys, they

were headed to the st. louis mayor's home, angry she had revealed some of the home addresses of people demanding police reform. now that you've watched the video, let's hear what mark mccloskey has to say about it. he's here next.

we're now joined by mark mccloskey. he is the st. louis homeowner we told you about in that video that's all over social media. he and his wife holing guns, keeping protestors away, in their opinion, from their home on a private street. he is an attorney. and the couple also has outside counsel who joins us now, albert watkins. thank you both for joining me. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> counselor, and mr. mccloskey/counselor, we can talk about the legal rights and the facts. i want to talk about not having

a right, but whether or not something is right first. which is how do you feel about becoming the face of political resistance to the black lives mater movement? >> first of all, that's completely ridiculous staple. i'm not the face of anything opposing the black lives mater movement. i was a person scared for my life who was protecting my wife, my home, my hearth, my livelihood. i was a victim of a mob that came through the gate. i didn't care what color they were. i didn't care what their motivation was. i was frightened. i was assaulted. and i was in imminent fear that they would run me over, kill me, burn my house -- and you have to have this in the context of st. louis where on june the 2nd of this year i watched the city burn, i watched the 7-eleven get smashed in, looted, and burned for 40 minutes on live television with nobody showing up to do anything, and i

realized at that time we're on our own. when bad things happen, they unpredictably turn really bad real fast. that same night, retired st. louis police captain david dorn was murdered. when it was a mob i didn't take the time to see their birth certificates or anything else. i was defending my house, my life, my wife and what i spent 32 years building there. >> i understand what you say your rationale was. to be clear, did anything happen to you or your property? >> did anything happen? yeah, my life has been ruined. >> no, no, no, no -- we'll get to that, mr. mccloskey. i don't mean to cut you off. but i'm saying that night, did anything happen to you, your family or your property? >> yeah, it's called social intimidation. it's called terrorism. chris, what's the definition of terrorism? to use violence and intimidation to frighten the public. that's what was happening that night. that's what happened to me and that's the damage i suffered. >> you were the one pointing a

loaded weapon at a group of people who were walking past looking for the mayor's house as a point of protest. >> chris, that's an entirely false concept. no single media outlet has ever mentioned the complete falsity of that statement. the mayor's house cannot be reached through my neighborhood. lives up on a road called lake and washington. that's three blocks north and a half a mile west of my house. >> so where do you think they were going? >> they were going through a private neighborhood for the intention of going through a private neighborhood, in my humble opinion, in retrospect, at the time i didn't have any time to think about this, however, the leader of the entity called expect us that organized this whatever it was announced ahead of time that he does not want to have a peaceful protest. he wants to have it be as disruptive as possible. and when interviewed subsequently, he said, i know it was illegal. i know it was a private neighborhood. but when you're doing protests of this nature, it's necessary

to break the law to get your ends met. and that's -- that's what was happening. of course i didn't know any of that at the time. all i knew was that hundreds of people screaming, shouting, angry, broke through the private gate. everything inside that gate is private property. >> right. >> any pretense of -- of protest as opposed to terrorism ended when they broke through that gate -- >> terrorism is a strong word, counselor, don't you think? i mean, let's -- let's stipulate for the point of this conversation that they went through -- look, i let you make your points. let the rejoinders happen and then you can go. >> sure. >> you got counsel with you. you're safe. i promise. the idea that they broke the law, i give it to you. they went through a private gate. i'm sure you have video of it or somebody can prove that. i stipulate they went through the gate. but they're yelling. they're angry. they did not go up your steps. they didn't go to your house. they didn't touch you. they didn't try to enter your

home. they didn't try to do anything to your kids, but you say you were assaulted. you're using the civil definition of that, which is that you had the apprehension that something bad was going to happen to you, but nothing did. but to call it terrorism when the people are there protesting how the community is treated by the police is a little bit of reverse psychology at a minimum, is it not? >> no. you're absolutely -- you're absolutely wrong. the reason why they did not get up my steps was my wife and i were there with weapons to keep them off our steps. >> how do you know? >> because they were coming at us until they -- i displayed the weapon and that stopped them. i came out -- >> so do you -- i'm sure a house like that -- >> wait, wait, wait, chris. >> i'm sure a house like that has cameras. do you have video of them coming up the steps and being in your house? >> i'm going to discuss the level of my private security on national television. >> oh, but do you proof of them actually approaching your house? >> you know, chris, this is not a black lives matter movement.

this is a manner of not just one discussion we have to have. you said we have to have discussion, we do. and every melanin-challenged old white man like me needs to listen and hear the message. the message of black lives matter. what the second part of this discussion is, and it's not mutually exclusive, is the rights, constitutional rights of each and every citizen in this land. they can't be compromised with -- without recognizing that the message of black lives matter will cease to have any meaning at all. >> but who is breaking -- >> because then we have anarchy. >> how does that justify what happened here, counselor? >> let's talk about justification. >> -- they were protesting and he has become the face -- how so? the president retweeted this for

a reason. >> he became -- >> counselor -- >> he became the face involuntarily. >> i'm not saying it was voluntary. i'm saying why do you think the president retweeted it, counselor? >> look, you can talk all night or let me answer. >> i just asked you a question. why do you think the president retweeted it. >> that's a separate question. >> that's the one i'm asking. >> well, that's a second question. >> maybe you should ask the president. >> you should ask the president. >> he doesn't answer my questions but he answers -- >> i'm not going to answer -- i'm not going to speak for the president. in fact, quite frankly, i find it probably an impossibility for anyone to speak for the president. that's assuming one wants to say the president speaks. >> i don't know what the hell you're talking about. mr. mccloskey, this is what i'm saying. the president retweeted this for a reason. why do you think he retweeted it? >> i have no idea why the president retweeted it. i've not seen it. have not seen the retweet. i think you ought to ask the president. >> he deleted it. >> i was reluctant to come on your show for a similar reason. let me say this.

you said it was protesting police brutality. that's absolutely inaccurate. the announced purpose for this event was to ask the mayor, whose own husband was murdered in her driveway in that same house years ago, in front of her and her kids, okay? that's how undangerous these things are. the alleged purpose of this event was to ask her to resign for docsing protesters -- >> right. >> guess what? have i been docsed? have those very people who were walking down my street screaming death threats at me and threatening to burn my house and kill my dog and what rooms in my house they were going to live in after they killed me, do you think them then distributing my information all over the western hemisphere is different than what they're asking the mayor to resign for doing? this hypocrisy is just obvious nonsense. >> look, again -- again, mr. mccloskey, i don't like that you have been weaponized for political means. i'm not saying that you weren't within your rights to do what you were doing.

that will be judged by the system. that's not why i'm having you on the show. as i sid aid at the top. you said i don't want to come on the show. listen, i'm fair. i'm not going to use you as a pawn to advance my own agenda like the show you just went on that wants to see black lives matter as inimical to the american cause. i don't make those kinds of judgements for people. had hands up, don't shoot on this. the stated purpose of this demonstration, and that's all we can go on, that they didn't like the mayor outed or as you say docsed people who were defunding the police. and now you can like that or not like that, but you have been used and politically weaponized as a face of white resistance to that movement. and that's why i asked you that. not because that's hot you see yourself, but that's how you're being seen, and i wanted to give you a chance with counsel to respond to that. i don't see -- >> okay, i will respond. >> i don't see that as an unfair

question. >> my client has since the very outset of this publicity made it really, really clear the last thing he wanted to do -- and he and his wife are both appalled at the prospect of being utilized as a -- as a rallying call for people sitting in barka loungers with a confederate flag behind them and a 12-gauge in their hands. my clients have fought as lawyers for three-plus decades for the civil rights of people of color. my clients are completely behind and endorsed the message of blm. why they are not capable of doing is embracing the abject utilization of that noble message that we all need to hear over and over and over again as a license to rape, rob, pillage, bowl over all of our rights for -- >> none of that happened here. >> for a man have to worry --

oh, i beg your pardon. when you have a man and a wife on their property in their home in a full-on assault occurring by -- >> what full-on assault? they're walking down the street in front of the house, mr. watkins. come on. >> chris, that's not correct. you don't have your facts correct. >> i'm just looking at the video. mr. mccloskey, please, i'll give you the last word. >> there are 1,000 videos out there. look at all of them. look at the crowd. by the way, two or three, depending on whether the third that was involved instigated it. broke down that fence. that rushed through that gate. these individuals curiously were not people of color. >> yeah, i read that. you say it was white guys who initially spooked you about what you needed to do. mr. mccloskey, last word, go to you. >> the guy pulls up in front of me, pulls out two pistol magazines, snaps them and says you're next. if you were there, you feel like you had a right to defend

yourself as well. >> absolutely. someone takesous magazines and clicks and it makes a direct threat to me, i would feel threatened 100%. >> and that's what happened to me. >> look, i know you're going through a process like this. i welcome you having counsel. if you were within your rights to do what you were doing, it should be judged as such. i wanted to talk to you about the broader implication. because it's just a horrible picture of what's going on in america right now. to me it's not about what's right and wrong in a court of law, it's about what's right and wrong how we treat each other. >> that's why we're here tonight. >> you know it, and mr. mccloskey, you know it. he retweeted it because he liked the image of white resistance to this movement. and i'm not saying that was fair to you. but we know that's why he did it because that's why he deleted it. i wanted you to speak for yourself. >> i'm glad you're a mind-reader because no one else thinks you are. >> oh, in fact, he didn't delete it. good. makes my point even more. >> no. >> you didn't say that. it was said to me for me. i'm thinking of something elsewhere someone was screaming

"white power" in a video the president retweeted. he deleted that one. he didn't delete the one of you. i wanted to give you a chance to speak about it. we both know you don't need to be a mind-raider to -- i'm doing the same thing. we've seen behavior before us. i'm making a judgement. i'm sorry that you were caught in it the way you are if it's not what you intended by all of this, mr. mccloskey, and i wish you good luck. mr. watkins, thank you for representing your client. appreciate you taking the opportunity. >> thank you for the time. >> be well. we'll be right back. if yto severe psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis, little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling,

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