removed from its pedestal. that's what you're watching there. it stood there for more than 100 years. this on the very same day a state law took effect giving localities the ability to remove or alter confederate monuments in their communities if they followed things like a waiting period. the republican party of virginia, however, called the democratic mayor's actions an illegal stunt. it's time now to hand it over to chris cuomo for "cuomo prime time." it's yourself. >> appreciate it. it's always a pleasure to see you. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." let's get after it. >> i'm all for masks. i think masks are good. if i were in a group of people and i was close. >> you would wear one? >> oh, i have. i mean, people have seen me wearing one. >> i guess he realized he really is what he put out on instagram today, the lone warrior. he was bragging about this, but this is only when it comes to

mocking masks. one of the only tools we have to fight off a pandemic. but don't ask for too much too soon. his reasoning for wearing a mask is still very trumpy. >> actually, i had a mask on. i sort of like the way i looked, okay? i thought it was okay. it was a dark black mask, and i thought it looked okay. it looked like the lone ranger. >> his mask was over his eyes. make sure you put this one over your mouth. now, i've never seen this picture that the president talks about of him with a black mask, but maybe he is confusing himself in that picture with this picture of joe biden wearing a black mask. this was on memorial day. it was mocked by trumpet brit hume because they were making a joke of covid, as you'll recall, and naturally trump had to retweet it. maybe now he wants to resemble

what's beiating him in the poll. the lone warrior indeed, the last holdout joining the fight. don't forget what has been spilling out of the face of this president about this pandemic before he agreed to cover it with a mask, at least sometimes. >> i don't think i'm going to be doing it, wearing a face mask as i greet presidents, prime minister, dictator, kings, queens. i don't know. somehow i don't see it for myself. >> i did wear. i had one on before. i wore one in the back area. but i didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it. here is my mask right here. and i liked it very much. i actually, honestly, i think i look better in the mask. i really did. i look better this the mask. >> can you take it off, because i cannot hear you. >> i'll speak louder sir. >> okay, because you want to be politically correct. go ahead. >> politically correct.

we'll take any kind of correct out of this president. the man called himself a wartime president. what wartime president ever failed like this? he has his generals begging for a national strategy. he won't provide one. he won't even let them do it. while he did take a step by saying masks, yeah, he still doesn't get it. he says if people feel good about it, they should do it. that's how a wartime president speaks? if you feel like fighting the enemy, then you should. what happened to either you're with us or you're against us? wash your hands, socially distance, and if you can't, wear a mask, period. if we don't all do these three things where cases are climbing, we won't win any time soon that is the message, not this. >> i think we're going very good with the coronavirus. i think that at some point

that's going to sort of just disappear, i hope. >> disappear. look, be clear. this change in talk was forced on a man who was determined to deceive about this. despite the science, despite appeals from the team he says is the best, he persisted in this piffle. >> by april, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. >> when you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down close to zero. >> it's going to disappear one day. it's like a miracle. it will disappear. >> this is going to go away without a vaccine, it's going to go away, and we're not going see it again, hopefully. >> may that was. you want hope? stop saying the wrong things, and stop your team from doing the wrong things, like this, ordering the removal of stickers warning people to be social distance in that tulsa arena.

look at them taking away the stickers. this is who he is and what his team is about. now he sees his allies wearing masks, and the numbers look so bleak, he has decided to follow because he has failed to lead. and you know how soon we'll see the truth of this conversion? this weekend. friday. if you want to lead us out of this, tell the south dakota governor to stop ignoring social distancing in the name of your mount rushmore fourth of july weekend photo op. thousands are expected to attend. the men on that mountain, washington, jefferson, teddy roosevelt and lincoln, none would have handled a crisis like you have so far. you want to be in their presence? why not act more in their image when it comes to how to lead in hard times. instead of not funding the military so you can protect the

names of bases for traitors and bigots. focus on using the military and other tools to fight this pandemic. you need to tell us what we're doing as a country. stop waking up and tweeting about the media and tweet about the numbers of people in the hospital, the dead. no one needs your take on why cnn is doing so well. we need you to empower this country to get well, because your lack of leadership is making us sick. let's get the facts and let's get our future if things don't change by bringing in the chief doctor, sanjay gupta. good to have you, my brother. when you look at the numbers month over month, you're getting a story of acceleration. what do you see and why do you think we're seeing it? >> well, the virus is a contagious virus, and it's getting out of control, chris there has not been a national leadership there has not been a national strategy to handle this. there has not been clear,

concise scientific evidence-based recommendations such as this, chris. if your state's going up in numbers for five days in a row, you need to go into some sort of stay at home mode again. you can't come out of that stay at home mode again until you go down 14 days in a row. the goal is to get one case per million people in the united states. that's the definition of containment per day. >> you'll kill business. you'll kill liberty. >> 350 people -- but the thing about it is right now you're getting into a situation where too many people are getting the infection, getting hospitalized, and society is going to shut down i think as a result of that. but anyways, at five days in a row, upward, 14 days downward before you can reopen. the goal is one in a million per day. it can be done. it's done in most countries around the world. i would empower scientists and i would want to hear from folks at the cdc who are arguably the world's best epidemiologists and infectious disease doctors every day about how the plan is going.

this would happen for a period of week, chris, not months. >> have them on every show, everywhere, talking about the numbers, talking about the protocols, talking about the progress, where it is, and why it is. that's how you get a country on board. what we have is slippage in the other direction. people finding ways to accommodate the fatigue of waiting. airlines, the eliminating the middle seat thing. you wanted to talk about that. why? >> well, this is profits over people. this is basically what it is. i spent time with delta airlines, who is still keeping the middle seat sort of empty policy. but the airlines are getting crushed, understandably, from what's happened, and now they want to start getting people back in the air. the problem is that you're now flying from communities, anywhere basically in the country where you've got significant spread of the virus. you may have been able to do this a while ago where there were communities that you could be pretty reasonably sure you hadn't been exposed. now just about anywhere you go in public in most states around

the country, you would likely be someone who would be considered a contact of someone infected with covid. that's how much virus there is in the environment now. it's very hard to put people on planes and possibly fuel even more spread. i get it. and you ask the question right off the bat, how do you balance public health with the economy? i think you can't do one without the other. public health has to lead the way here, and it doesn't have to be forever. and look at countries around the world. >> you guys were speculating that if you want the economy to come back, you have to stimulate demand. and if the consumer doesn't feel confident don't open up. that's exactly what we're seeing. there are two points of resistance. one is there are people, especially in the trump base, who believe this is all politics and it's done to hurt trump. and you'll see, after the election it will be gone. first of all that. >> could be right, but for the wrong reason which is after the election in november, hopefully we will see some kind of mass effort to have numbers go down. but if we can put up, vaughn, put up where we are now versus a

month ago on june 1st, and you look at the top five states with the most new cases. california, texas, florida, arizona, georgia. the texas governor, the florida governor, the georgia governor, the arizona governor, these people have no reason to fake the funk when it comes to making trump look bad by imagining a virus. this is all too real, red, blue, and otherwise. this virus is attacking everywhere. >> yeah, the virus doesn't discriminate. it doesn't respect borders. it will go wherever it wants. it's the one constant probably in this whole equation. and the thing about it is, chris, nobody knew everything about this virus in the very beginning. it's a novel coronavirus. >> we got a late start. >> yeah we got a late start. people were putting it in a box. is this going to behave more like sars and other viruss? is it going to behave more like h1n1, the previous virus? i can tell you this, by late

january, early february, we had a pretty good idea this was a significant problem. i interviewed the cdc in the middle of february who said look, there is no way this is going away. this is endemic now. it's going to be here for the foreseeable future, for years to come is what he said. so why at the end of june are we saying this is going to go a way? that puts news the wrong direction. we're going backwards. >> there is no we. one man is saying it. you're not hearing anybody on the task force say it will get disappear, just give it time. it's just the president. and remember, the marked difference. you're no politician. you're not a political analyst. so i'll say it. the difference was between a fauci or an azar and a trump was that they were all slow on this. and they all didn't see it the way it was. but the principle was if the facts on the ground change, i will change my disposition of urgency. then the facts changed. fauci went into panic mode. azar went into panic mode. not trump, because two of those three men did not see the growth

of this pandemic as bad for them personally. trump did. and he's held on to it until just now, kind of. >> we've -- it's been minimized in this country. i think that's the occams's razor. we didn't test enough. something you beat the drum on early. still where we are with masks so we cannot contact. states did not meet the criteria because no one thought this was as serious as it was. everyone is trying to figure this out how bad will this be. remember, sars ultimately affected 8,000 people around the world. 800 people died. 10% fatality rate, but not that many people were affected. h1n1 infected 60 million people in this country within the first year, but had a really low fatality rate. this one fell somewhere in between. it's very contagious, and it has a much higher fatality rate than h1n1. here we are, and we've known

this for some time, early february, probably. so what has happened over the last several months? that's going to be the question. but going forward, i think it's pretty clear what we need to do. >> now hopefully it's clear to our president. and i think, look, i think what may be getting through to him, this could beat you in the election. this kind of horrible response could beat you. and if you want the economy to save this country, you have to get people confident to go back out and be safe and start using and spending and existing. and until they get that -- so you have to do the medical first before the economic. everyone has been saying it. hopefully he gets it. we'll see with what he stoez th this governor friday night. if he doesn't tell the governor to socially dante it, we've got problems. dr. sanjay gupta, you are part of the answer. thank you very much. arizona, as i mentioned one of the states reporting record coronavirus. they would not be making it up,

okay, in that state. they're not here to hurt trump. they're here to get better. it's not stopping some, though, from being upset about what is happening in that state to control the virus. i have somebody who is a local gym owner, okay. he is going to defy the governor's order to stay closed. why? he makes his case to you next. >> "cuomo prime time" brought to you by tractor supply company, providing pet food, animal feed and gardening supplies. if you're at home thinking about your financial plan...

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a little context for the level of concern we should have. do you remember in italy when doctors had to start triaging which covid patients to dedicate limited resources to? remember the resource scare they had there and they had to figure out which ones to save and we were all shocked. how could a modern country be in this situation? hospitals are doing that right now in arizona. the state just set a record for new cases and deaths. hospitals are filling up fast. the fight continues over what businesses can open. tom hatton is ceo of mountainside fitness. he is suing arizona's governor over the decision to close gyms. mr. hatton, welcome to "prime time." i make no secret i am biased in favor of gyms. i think it was fundamental to my constant ability to get through coronavirus was the fact that i

was somewhat physically fit. i have friends and associates who are in the gym business. they are outraged in new york that they haven't been able to open. they're worried it won't happen. i get it. but in light of what's happening in your state, why do you feel the need to sue the state to open a business that carries a lot of risk? >> actually, you know, it's exactly -- thanks for having me on, chris. it's kind of what you just stated there because two reasons. one is what fitness means to people in general for their own mental and certainly their physical health to stay strong against any virus. but it was really more a decision of how this came down in the way we are approaching what you just said regarding record numbers here in arizona. we were all in when the first shutdown happened on march 18th, and we were closed for two months. and we did everything we could to be a leader in this state, donating money to the arizona covid relief fund. we're one of the sites for

antibody testing. we donated wipes to banner hospital. we work with the governor's office on all the protocols to be open when we were open. so to have this decision come down with really no notice on monday at 3:00 telling us that we were one of the three businesses that were going to have to close at 8:00, we just felt that was an arbitrary ruling and that we didn't feel like that was fair compared to all the rulings that happened back in march and everybody having the mandate to shut down. >> so there may be some issue in terms of notice and timing. the counter is going to be -- i know you know this, but for the edification of the audience, they're going say when it comes to what is risky, gyms are way up there. everybody is touching everything. they're breathing heavily during exercise, which exacerbates the chance of transmission. they're not wearing masks. and as much as we want to do it, it's probably one of the worst things we could be doing in terms of transmission. how do you get past that? >> well, you know, it's hard.

it's definitely a valid point. here is the counterpoint to that is we have the ability to control social distancing in the facility. i can pull down every treadmill. i can put you in a certain spot in a cycle class or a group fitness room and i can socially distance you on the floor. i can control the cleaning. members have access to the wipes and we have access to the wipes. when i walk into home depot, i can't control the social distancing. you like the shovel, you touch it walk away. i walk up and grab it. nobody is cleaning in between that that's kind of how we feel in general to the overall mentality of fitness. yes, people are there, but we're able to control it a little more than most of the businesses that are currently open. this decision didn't allow all businesses to close. it just said we don't think this one should be open. >> but it was based on risk criteria, not targeting tom hatton. >> no, absolutely right. >> we're showing b roll. you can put it back up. it's more interesting than my face. hatton is a good-looking guy,

but cover me. we have b roll of one of your gyms. it looks like a typical nice gym. but nobody's got masks on. everybody is grabbing weights there is a cleaner walking around cleaning things. she has a mask on, but the people working out don't. and on the wall interestingly is a slogan. effort is your responsibility. now how does that slogan apply to you, tom in terms of this sucks and i know they have relief to try to help businesses stay alive and i know this is hard. we've seen the casualties. but isn't the effort, to keep people safe, your responsibility and a gym is just too big a risk in a place with cases going crazy? >> absolutely. you know where i look at it is the effort is the responsibility of leadership. if the epidemic -- the pandemic is at this level, then everybody needs to close. waking up one morning and deciding i'm going to close the salt river for tubing or i'm going close movie theaters that

were currently closed, and i'm going to decide to close fitness centers, which were only open for 30 days, but i'm not going close all these other types of businesses where there is gathering, where there is touching, where there isn't face masks we felt was arbitrary. i agree with the worry of the pandemic. certainly. but the decision to just pick out these businesses we felt was arbitrary. i feel we need to close everything down at this point. >> but that's not what you're asking for. you're asking to stay open. >> that's right. if this decision in this arbitrary fashion stays like this, we're saying we don't think that's fair, and in arizona constitution there is laws against that. that's what we're asking for, a stay. we're asking the court to look at that. if governor ducey wants to take a look at the whole state in general, i'm all for that. just not the arbitrary decision, because it could be any business tomorrow. it could be the next business that he might decide arbitrarily should be closed. >> the worst thing you have going for you in the litigation,

or at least, you know, the argument that you have to make to government is you're staying open. so they told you to be closed. you're saying that you're responsible and you care, but you're doing something that they told you is risky. now, we have seen a pattern around the country that when you mess with the man, you lose on these rules. and that -- >> yeah. >> -- you sue, the businesses tend to lose, and then they get shut down, and you're going have more expenses because of the litigation. this worth the risk? and are you worried about the message you're sending by staying open when they say it's in the public health interest for you to be closed? >> well, i think it's more important what the message we're sending about the decision the governor made in the arbitrary fashion that he did it. i think that trumps so to speak, maybe a bad term right now, but trump is the reasoning for the reason we're down because it looks like it's just been singled out. it's a tough deal. but we feel like the cause is greater. it's bigger than just this

particular business. this left mountainside a while ago in terms of the mentality of what's going on in the dealing with the pandemic and the decision-making process with it. >> well, again, you know, we had the b roll up there. you got people working out. that's great. they don't have masks. they're touching the same things. you a tough case to make, but i wanted to give you the chance to make it on here. >> appreciate it. thank you, chris. >> i'm sympathetic. there are a lot of businesses throughout that are dying. >> thank you. >> that's not what america is about. it's about small business thriving. i wish you well. >> thanks, chris, i appreciate the time. >> all right, tom hatton, arizona. a state that's getting banged up there. are a lot of lawsuits like this all over the country. it is a hard balance. and we saw what the president did. he decided to ignore the pandemic. did that really make things better? hard to make the case because now places are shutting down again, and it's going take even longer. anoth another story. russia. look, the fact that they're trying to mess with us is news

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did you hear about this? a measure that would require presidential campaigns to report any attempts by foreign nationals to interfere in the contest was removed from a senate intelligence bill this week. senator mark warner, the top democrat on the intel committee says republicans forced its removal as a condition to pass a larger piece of legislation and

the national defense authorization act. that's the must-pass bill that authorizes defense spending, you know, the one trump wants to hold up for another reason, namely to save the names of confederate generals on military bases. yes, he wants to hold up funding to save them. the election reporting provision, of course, was a response to russia's election interference in 2016. bob mueller found the trump campaign welcomed the help of russian agents. warner blasts the removal as a back room deal. he is vowing to offer it up as an amendment that would put every member on record about where they stand on this issue. i would like to know who's against securing this election, wouldn't you? i wonder why republicans would be against something like this. hmm. maybe this. . >> if somebody called from a country, norway, we have information on your opponent. oh, i think i'd want to hear it. >> wonder why so many of you are

sick of politicians and politics. marco rubio is the senior republican on that panel. what do you think of this, senator rubio? i'll give you as much time as you want. come on the show. make the case that we don't need to know what foreign agents want to interfere in our presidential election. as much time as you want. now, next story, seattle police have cleared the police-free c.h.o.p. zone, after a three-week standoff, or summer of love if you want to take it from the mayor's perspective there. the trump administration claims this is liberation from anarchists. what does the seattle police chief say about it? she is with us next. i just assumed all bladder leak pads felt the same.

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president trump is now taking credit for dismantling the so-called anarchy in seattle's c.h.o.p. zone.

seattle police moved in on the capitol hill organized protest area. that's c.h.o.p., today taking it down early this morning. we've shown you how the site was taken over by protests after the death of george floyd. but after days of peace, there were two deadly shootings in that area. led the mayor to issue an emergency order declaring c.h.o.p. an unlawful assembly. the seattle police chief carmen best joins us now. chief, good to see you again. did the president have anything to do with your decision? chief, you hear me? >> there you are. no, i could not hear you. i can hear you now. >> i was boy, this chief sure is thinking hard about a simple question. i said did the president have anything to do with what happened in seattle today? >> what happened in seattle was the effort of many of us coming together, recognizing that the unlawful behavior that was

continuing to devolve in the area known as the capitol hill organized protest had to stop, and we came together as an organization. we developed a plan under the authority of the mayor entering her proclamation. we were able to move in tactically and move people out of the area. >> with a benefit of hindsight why wasn't this set of events today prove that this is always a mistake? this was never going to be a summer love. you had people there who had no business being in control of an area, and it was always going to go bad. why let it happen at all? >> chris, we really respect people's first amendment right to free speech and to assemble. you know, this was coming on the heels of many, many demonstrations regarding black lives matter, and of course that was the result of the murder of george floyd. folks occupied the area. initially, the first days were relatively peaceful. but that situation over time

devolved to the point that at some point, officers and firefighters were not able to enter the area without extreme resistance and people attacking them. so it became very lawless. as you pointed out we had two murders, a 19-year-old and a 16-year-old murdered in the area. multiple shootings, gunshots, rape, robbery, assault, and arson. so we needed to develop a plan, we needed to move in and we needed to take order. that way we could actually provide the services that we are required to the people who reside and work in that area. >> god forbid there is cause for that type of outrage on the streets again. now that you went through this once, would you allow police to abandon a precinct? and would you allow people to overtake a zone like that again, if god forbid something sends people that angry into the streets again? >> well, you know, people going through the streets is not the issue here.

it's the unlawful and brutal behavior that we saw occurring, people exploiting the situation. in terms of the precinct, it was never our intent, and i have to repeat this to not enter back into the precinct, but the situation had devolved as such that we weren't able to reenter the facility. so once we were able to get control of the area, we're now in the precinct. we've gone through and checked it for any booby traps or other things that might have been set, and we're prestorestoring order getting back to business as usual. circumstances there any chance that the police force is going to be defunded in seattle? >> depending on who you talk to, there is a lot of definitions about what defunding means. for us, we are taking this as an opportunity to reenvision how we move forward. it's very clear that we are going to be looking at involving community much more in how our services are provided and what services are provided. so that isn't necessarily a bad

thing for us to reexamine what we're doing. we envision what policing look likes moving forward. we've done a good job in seattle. we have great de-escalation, crisis intervention, training, many of the practices that are being called for under reform, we've already done them. so now it's time for us to look at how we utilize those practices and also make our agency better. >> i've always found you to be a very interesting aspect of this dynamic, chief, not just because you do your job well, but because you check a lot of boxes. you bleed blue, but you're a black woman and you're a mother. and that's -- that puts a lot of irons in the fire here. you know, the president said in response to the idea of black lives matter being painted around new york city as a reminder of the effort for social change that blm is a symbol of hate. what do you think of that? >> well, you know, i don't like to get in political quips and involve myself in politics.

i will tell you that i do believe that it's very important that we look at systemic racism across all genres and all areas of our society that includes criminal justice, health care and education. the data and the stats don't lie. we know that people of color and black people specifically are disadvantaged in many of those areas. so we should be looking at how we're going have equity and equality for every person who lives, works, and resides in this country and certainly in the city of seattle. >> chief, you're not a politician. you're doing the job there. you were put in a bad spot. and i've always interviewed the mayor differently than i interview you about what's going on there. i'm glad to see this was done basically safely. i'm sure a lot of videotape is going to come out, and if any demands accountability, i'll ask you back on the show. chief carmen best, i look forward to seeing where you city winds up after all of this. >> great, thank you. thank you very much for having me. >> stay healthy and stay well. >> thanks. florida's governor taking a lot of heat. why? well, leaving the decision on

masks up to local leaders, but he kind of had tied their hands, and he won't make it mandatory where it's necessary in the state. so the city of jacksonville stepped forward in a big way, mandating masks ahead of the gop convention in august. but what does that mean for the convention? we have a local leader. what does he think? what is it going to look like in florida? next. is now a good time for a flare-up?

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governor desantis can spin it any way he wants, but the facts tell a different story. things in florida are bad. new infections climbing. higher there than anywhere else in the country, more than 6500 new cases today. hospitals are getting so overrun in miami, a group of hospitals says it's running out of the antiviral drug remedesavir. remember that? in extreme cases where people are hospitalized, that is a drug that has shown promise in

helping treat covid. now knowing all that, why are republicans insisting on hosting their convention there next month? they hand-picked the city of jacksonville, one of the worst hot spots in the state. now just hours ago, jacksonville's mayor declared a public health emergency in the city. hundreds of local doctors signed a letter calling it, quote, medically disrespectful for the convention to go on. joining us now is the president of the jacksonville city council, tommy hasuri. you were mayor there as well. thank you for joining us. hopefully your health and the health of your family and loved ones is intact. everybody okay? >> thank you, chris, yes. and before i go any further, i want to congratulate you for getting through, you and one of your sons and your wife efor getting through this coronavirus, brooke baldwin too.

god bless you all for making it through. everybody knows that the virus knows no friends, and it is devastating. and as you said, it's hit florida hard now. >> thank you very much. i mean certainly part of the concern. you've got to do the job. but i don't want to see anybody go through what i had to go through. and help unnecessarily. now, as we both know, jacksonville was picked because the president didn't want to deal with any restrictions in north carolina. so now he is going to come into jacksonville with the convention. you just passed as a municipality the mask rule. we'll see if this newfound sense of fact and science of the president, that he respects masks all of the sudden holds. but what do you think about holding the convention in jacksonville? >> well, to be clear, i'm a democrat. i was a democratic mayor, first democrat in 20 years to be the president of this jacksonville city council. my first day was today, really officially. but, you know, whether it's a democratic convention or the republican convention, we have

to -- we have to take cautionary measures and some of the mayor's staff is saying we've got 60 days before the convention. we'll know more about whether we have mandatory masks or not. then we'll probably will be at a point of no return. am i happy about it? from an economic standpoint whatever impact it has on the hotels have been closed down for the past several months or are now open again. it goes beyond that. it's a three legged table. you have the devastation of the virus and picked up here. we were flat. now it picked up we're on top of the heap. and florida of course is number one. as well as potential for the quote unquote peaceful protest. i pray to god that it will be peaceful and all things being equal we'll have no virus, no

violence and protests and the virus will go away. >> the expression ifs and buts were cherries and nuts we'd have a beautiful christmas. that's a lot of conditions. if anything will bring the people together i'm shocked we stayed as divided along bipartisan lines. i never thought wearing a mask would be a political statement. >> you should see the e-mails i get. >> i'm sure. i'll trade e-mails with anybody. >> we have a right to as i say in the independent of the right to have a -- i guess to be happy. to spirit of happiness and we're not there. we're not -- it's not a violation. it's about personal issue with me and everyone else.

you have to take personal responsibility and that's why we did the mandate today. the mayor did. >> by the way, congratulations on today being your first day. a leader always wants to be channelled and you'll have that. -- challenged. the analysis that is faulty is don't tell me what to do. i make choices for myself. you people in government always reaching out telling me how to live life. spend my money effectively and don't cheat and get out of the office. what they're forgetting is you don't ware a mask for you. it's for somebody else. and that's where they are missing the analysis of a right versus a privilege. your right to do what you want with yourself and activity ends when it starts to encroach on my right or somebody else's right to do the same. a lot of tho is understandable because of what your governor is

saying. governor has been playing the game of the rest of the country is scared di cats. we don't need it as mandate. we'll be fine. and that nonchalant couldn't help you. along with beaches being closed in some places and closed in others. how much of this is on his plate? >> exactly. when i was referring to it. the pursuit of happiness. happiness is staying virus free. it should be for others. with those who write me and send e-mails saying it's a constitutional right. hands off. government is overstepping. i say bump that. the thing is quite frankly they are -- they are jeopardizing other people. by not wearing a maflk they put everyone at risk. and as far as what the governor has done. the mayor have taken steps in a

measurable way. and the next step was the mandate. whether or not people adhere to that, the next step would be like miami and other south florida cities whether we go to some kind of penalty and code. and if we do that, the people aren't really listening. and as far as the convention coming here. it's shock and awe. i give all the credit in the world to governor cooper for what he did. at least he wanted six feet distance and social distance. and we're not at that point. in tulsa they tore down the sign to keep distance. that won't happen here. the counsel hasn't taken a position. we don't get information from the administration on what they're doing and the plans. >> that's my point. you said desantis is taking measured steps. to make the president happy. you think he's not going to let the convention come to

jacksonville? and let local government put restrirkss on it that the president doesn't want. if the president is not asking for restrictions you think the governor won't squash you? >> the mayor is going to try to be cautionary about it. i think some point it will be the devil be damned and full steam ahead. and that's when the counsel will have to make a hard decision. not necessarily to stop it. we don't want to stop the economy. we don't want to do all these things that cities and states are doing. the thing is this is about life. health. our primary duty as a government is protect the health, safety and welfare of all citizens. this impacts all three areas. and it will not stand if they continue to move forward and the virus gets worse. we won't let them go into the arena and just be willy nilly. having a great time at the expense of et people of

jacksonville. >> we'll see. the governor will be in charge. we won't release the statewide hospitalization numbers. so the idea of being transparent and doing the right thing to get the cases down. the one lesson we have learned so far the states that have done this the hardest and strictest have opened up the best. because of it. woel see what happens. everybody has eyes on florida for a lot of reasons. congratulations on your first day. and enjoy your service. your community needs you. >> thank you. thank you and your brother too. i'm proud of what he did inny. god bless him. >> i take in responsibility for that guy. it's all on him. >> president trump is once again claiming coronavirus is just going to disappear. you know that's not true. okay? while he revisits that fantasy we must deal with the reality. we have the medical mind to do just that. we have the president thinking the right way about masks kind

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