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all right. i'm chris cuomo welcome back to a bonus hour of "prime time." tonight the u.s. is tallying a record number of new covid-19 cases for a single day. more than 48,000. staggering statistic. what else do you need to know? president trump has it finally gotten through? take a listen. >> i'm all for masks. masks are good. if i were in a group of people and close. >> you would wear one. >> i have. people have seen me wearing one.
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>> actually, we really haven't seen you wearing one. and you told people that you wouldn't because you didn't want to give the media the satisfaction. and said many times that you didn't like the look and didn't think it worked for you. see, the fact is you haven't worn one since lt cdc advised americans in april to do it. you were a wartime president. that means you lead by example. this is what you said at the time. >> i don't think i'll be doing this. wearing a face mask. as i greet presidents, prime ministers. dictators. kings, queens. i don't see it for myself. >> tonight we're learning there's debate nd the white house. on whether the president should stop ignoring the virus and start paying attention to it. think about that. can you imagine inside the white
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house of the united states of america during a pandemic there is a division on whether or not to recognize the pandemic? 128,000 of us are dead. should you keep talking about reopening the economy and this will disappear? i don't know. the other guys are wearing masks and the numbers aren't going away the way you told me they would. yes, this election will largely be about this period and this pandemic. and here are the facts. 37 states are seeing an up tick in cases over the past week. six months after we learned about this. 23 states are pausing a rolling back plans it reopen because they didn't do it the right way. a big reason it wasn't done, especially in red states is because of this president and his lack of leadership. again, even with this movement on masks which we know is a lie.
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here's what went with it. >> i think that at some point that's going to sort of just disappear. i hope. >> i hope i grow up in a 6'5" tomorrow with a better right knee. and play for the knicks. not going to happen. let's bring in doctor william. good to have you on "prime time." the idea of the pandemic disappearing, what does that mean through a medical lens? >> this pandemic is not disappearing. this pandemic must be disappeared. and it can be. without a drug, without a vaccine. if you have leadership, governing and individual responsibility. it can be reduced to zero. as we have seen in a number of countries. or it can be reduced to low levels in other countries. >> if the response from the white house the president is that's what i'm saying. hopefully we'll make a it
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disappear. what's missing in terms of the message? >> you need to have clear leadership. leadership that is clear, consistent, credible, and compassionate. you need governance that has the right tools. you need a surgeon general that has troops. and every individual has to take it upon themselves to be responsible. all three layers to work together. one without the other will not work. >> the idea that america that this was unfixable. we're always going to be here. it's inevitable. this is how it works. it's not about how we reacted to it. what's your sense? >> all you have to do is look at america county by county. state by state. and you can see that leadership,
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organization, and individual -- >> whoops. we lost him. thank god not coronavirus. he was making the point that the idea that we had to wind up here, it was inevitable. not true on two levels. one, look at other countries and you'll see how they handle it and more quickly than we. even italy wound occupy getting through it with an economy that we didn't. they didn't go into it with the economic a assets we had. why is it taking us so long? state by state you'll see the areas that treated it most seriously, that worked the hardest on it that got all the flak, they are reopening the best. because we had it backwards in some places. it was never reopen and take
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care of the virus. it was take care of the virus and reopen. that was the way it was going to be. places that didn't do that way have paid the price. we'll troo to get him back. he's a lot of medicine. we appreciate it. let's get a better sense of the reality of where we are and where we're headed. >> every state beach parking lot in southern california and the bay area will now be closed. for the fourth of july weekend. >> the weekend that has raised a lot of concern. >> bars, dine in restaurants and movie theaters will close again. in 19 california counties. for at least three weeks. today, the daily death toll in the state like we hadn't seen since april. >> do not take your guard down. please do not believe those that somehow want to manipulate the reality. >> record numbers now hospitalized in arizona.
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>> i'm not sure what more we can do. with the short of a total shut down. >> record high hospitalization in texas and long lines to be tested. >> we opened in phases. one phase to the next phase too quickly. we weren't able to see the data. >> echoing dr. fauci. one of the most respected voices on this virus. but no longer respected by all. >> he doesn't know what he's talking about. we haven't skipped over anything. i'm skipping over listening to him. >> 37 states are seeing case counts climb. 22 now pausing or rolling back reopening. >> new york city was due to open indoor dining monday. not anymore. and a new warning from the federal official in charge of testing. those under 35 are driving out breaks right now. and testing alone will not be enough to stop them. >> testing is critical. we cannot test our way out of
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the current out break. we must discipline our own personal behavior. especially around the july 4th holiday. and especially among the young adults. >> vaccine would of course be the game changer. some promising data from pfizer today. >> we have an effective vaccine proven on january 1. this doesn't end on january 2. it's going to be another six months, could be a year before we get it distributed and in shoulders to make a difference. >> all right. thars the straight take. let's bring back the doctor. we got him back. i want to get you one more question. this has been politicized. that is not debatable. you heard that yahoo from texas the lieutenant governor not listening it dr. fauci. the same guy who said it's worth dying in order to get the economy reopened. the idea of heading into july 4th weekend and the message the
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president may send by going to south dakota to be in the presence of rush more and not socially distance and mask optional at an event like that. how powerful is this message? >> let me give you a idea of how i give myself frebds friends advice who ask about a barbecue. have a barbecue outside. it's much safer to be outside. do not go inside. if it rains, don't go inside. go home. magnify small piece of advice by a huge crowd of 30,000 people or more. gathering on the fourth of july. with or without mask. it's a very dangerous situation. if you're worried about a barbecue at home with friends, and you don't go inside because you might infect one another, you should certainly worry about a very big crowd.
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>> and the argument of it's my right to assemble. you didn't care about the protest. you can't protest without a mask. what about that argument? >> you know, i am a big proponent of individual freedom. but when somebody else's freedom impinges on mine. we all know and learn it in high school and civic class. there is a border to personal freedom. you can have all the freedom you want as long as it harms no one else. the moment it harms someone else society can say be careful. change your behavior. we do it all the time. take a speed limit. you can go as fast as you want. if you're endangering other people you can get a ticket and be pulled over and tossed in jail. so you have to be careful. you can't just go around
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recklessly driving. that's essentially what it's like. you don't know if you are infected. you might be. and don't know it. and you could be harming other people. a simple mask is not a great thing to ask. >> it's only when you can't socially distance. not all the time. inside and outside. just when you can't socially distance and around people that you haven't been around. thank you very much. sorry for the hiccup. even in small doses you are great medicine. we have breaking news in another trump battle against his own family. his niece is writing a tell all book. he wanted to block it. it was his brother who tried to block it. we may get to learn new secrets. not that they'll matter much. there's news about the ability to stop the book from being read. next.
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another tell all book in the trump world gets the go ahead fl a new york state court. this one written by the president's niece. it's called -- too much and never enough. how my family created lt worlds most dangerous man. let's bring in brian for what this means for the president and his family and voters. good to see you. what is the ruling say and mean? >> this is the number one best selling book on amazon across the country. even though it's not coming out for four weeks. and that's because of the title. a niece of president trump saying he is the world's most dangerous man. robert trump went to court seemingly on behalf of the president trying to stop the book last week. he won an initial ruling in a local court. but now there's an appellate court that said this book will go forward. this book can be published.
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the company says it already printed tens of thousands of companies. even though it won't be out for weeks it's a huge nationwide best seller. mary trump a licensed psychologist. what is she saying about her uncle? we don't know. the court tonight says the book can go forward and can be released. >> what's the whisper? she has tax returns. because of the family assets. >> she helped the "new york times" get a hold of tax returns back a couple years ago. and that was just a tip of the iceberg. we don't know how much he shows or revealed. she's been working on this book in secret. it was not revealed until it was on amsz a few weeks ago. because of the title and the suggestion she will say so many shocking things about the president it is already a huge best seller. we have seen two times in the
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past few weeks attempts to stop trump tell alls. first the justice department stopping bolton's book. that didn't work. it's the biggest book in the country. it's been out for seven days and the publisher is printing more. there's a book by mary trump which will be more significant. it's a member of the family channel challenging the president and his mental ability. his fitness for office. that will be damaging to the president. i heard what you said, who knows if it will change anybody's mind. a book of this magnitude could be significant as you head into august. into the rnc convention and general election. you have a member of his own family turning against him. >> the president and his team were pushing on facebook and everybody for censoring. they have been trying to censor two stories themselves in two weeks. nobody knows better than you the
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chatter will come out. and we'll see what it is. nobody gets us this information faster or deeper than you. always a pleasure. best to you, the wife and kids. >> president trump stoking the flames of the racial divide in america. how? well, what do you call saying the words black lives matter is a symbol of hate. is that the right message right now? the white house trying to walk it back. just a little bit. what does angela rye think? hint. she doesn't like it. because pain should never get in the way of a restful night's sleep. new zzzquil night pain. silence pain, sleep soundly.
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mayor plans to have painted. is it because it's outside trump tower and attack back? when this is happening in this country right now, what good reason, how can that help anything? his press secretary says later on trump was talking about the organization. not the people. the problem is the organization is the people. angela rye joins me now. i'm not going to ask you for a good reason to say it. the idea of -- >> thank you. >> calling it that at this time, if anyone has any interest in this movement, is there anything else they need to know about this president in measuring what he thinks of the cause? >> i want to take a moment to address a former colleague. and invite her into what it means to tell the truth. and what the truth is that she clearly doesn't know much about
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the black lives matter global net work. she has never met the founders who are friends of mine. she clearly doesn't understand that black lives haven't matter to the country since the foundation. she doesn't understand the framers and organizing documents didn't deem black people as five fifths fully human. and doesn't understand the number of people who were lynched in this doesn't. even during the reconstruction era. i invite her and donald trump to visit museums. the legacy museum. to learn history and what i'm trying to do is ground myself in the truth about a history that i was blessed to learn from my parents. when my history books wouldn't teach it. i was blessed to learn. i have to believe these people don't know any better because i have to believe that they would not put in direct harms way people who are friends of mine
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who are simply out here fighting to defund police and ensure that chu communities of color are reinvested and police department are divested. putting people trying to ensure that black lives matter that black policy matters and what is in our best interest to survive and find equitable out comes in the country. i have believe they are not doing this maliciously. if that means they have it take a moment to learn i invite them to take 24 hours. and maybe through this weekend to look at what it would take for us to really gain independence. frederick douglas said about independence day what is a slooif to the fourth of july. start there and see how different with see the country and why the rhetoric they use is so dangerous. while he refuses to call people who support the confederate si
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domestic terrorists. and traitors to the country. instead willing to target my friends, i'll invite him to learn and apologize. and walk back the toxic rhetoric at a time like this. >> well, as they say bless your heart. because you are going to have to steal yourself for some significant disappointment. we both know what she's doing. she's playing to advantage. this is someone who during trump as a can candidate said she didn't want to open him. he didn't represent the republican party. and all the problems as him with a human being. she came on my show. she got a paycheck from the organization and said he never lied to the american people. this is the ugliness of politics. black lives matter represents a force to this president's
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reelection. that is how it's perceived. true or not. that means it's got to go. that's how -- >> that's a problem. because black lives matter is an organization. as an affirmation. it's not something that we can afford to compromise. >> filled with lot looters and criminals and bullies and thugs. beating up police. destroying communities. >> all of that is a lie. and it is the very thing that would threaten someone who was a another black man who said i can't breathe. that mentality is the thing that costs taylor her life. that is what would cost elijah mclain his life. i cannot continue to name the thousands of people targeted by police officers since 2013 because of appearance. and black lives haven't mattered
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and the mentality of so many. not just those who wear the badge. to the vigilant that killed trayvon martin or ahmaud arbery. it's a deep rooted problem in the country. it must be addressed. black lives matter shouldn't be a partisan debate or argument. it should be an affirmation embraced by everyone on the soil of this land and everywhere else. that is just what it should be. and as long as we can continue to engage in a political divisive debate about this. we'll have a problem. black lives do matter. i'm requiring that anyone that wants to serve us whether on a corporate level. non-profit organization. or government. federal state or local. they have to acknowledge black lives matter. >> it's a black lives matter but. you have to comply with the police. and whatever happens is okay.
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black lives matter but somehow the police are being victimized by this movement. they matter but you get too many breaks and reparations is crazy. it matters but can't forget about the confederate that's important. it matters but you guys we have done a lot for you. stop complaining. that's what he's catering to. the guy puts out a video that someone says white power! in response to people saying trump is bad. he puts it out and deletes it. the deletion is a strong move. no. it was a cover his ass for putting something out that shows what he wants to cultivate as a demagogue. >> the way with e deal with it is dismantling all of that lack of logic. dismantle the i.gnorance. let me teach like you don't
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know. if you can make an argument about why army bases should be named after confederate soldiers. which he's doing. because it appeals to a base. shame on you. leadership should tell you that sometimes you have to educate ignorance out of people. i hope that this is out of ignorance and not mall intent. i'm not confidence that is what it is. i'm choosing to engage in that. if i don't i come on here shaking and when i'm done i cry. i can't imagine a world where in 2020 my god son turned ten. my best friend is celebrating 40 today. i can't imagine we're in a world where people see the covid-19 numbers and the impact on black people. i can't imagine a world where we're talking about what black people we have given you hand outs. we gave you the hand out. we built the entire country for free. that's a hell of a hand out. talking about reparation.
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people who you stole from native land came here and built an entire economy. building systems and institutions for you with no compensation. they better not ever say another thing to me about a hand out. all we're talking about is just the ability to live. when you talk about the declaration of independence, life liberty and lt pursuit of happiness. maybe we'll get to liberty and pursuit of happiness. you have to see me as an equal. as five fifths. and count to ensure representation for slave masters. that's what we have to get. myself just the other day i was talking to my dad who you blocked. and -- >> i did not. >> on instagram. >> i love him and the picture. >> i was talking to him the other day and i said something about a slave. and my dad corrected me. like hi does. and said no, enslaved person.
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stop taking the humanity away from people. it's just things like that. it was a nudge. my friend when i was talking about defunding the police. we'll take the body camera, the dash cam. all the changes. my friend one of the cofounders of black lives matter said you can't start that small. we have to be having a bigger conversation in this moment. our survival depends on it. she's right. we have to for a minutes imagine a world an america without racism. and the mere thought of that brings tears to my eyes. because it feels so far out of reach. we have to make that a tangible thing. for us, for our kids. for the future generations in the country. we're not going to get better until we can begin to imagine a different reality. we can't do that because it may cause -- we have to do what's in
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the best interest of totality of all of america. >> no question about it. wlst the hope? the hope is you and i have trafficked through a few bad cases. over the last few years. we have never had conversations like this as long as we have had them now. we take progress where we find it. we don't stop there. i listen to michael che. part of his comedy sketch he did. he said we're saying black lives matter. we just want to matter. we don't want to matter more than you. we don't -- the lowest standard that we should be able to exist in a country that doesn't seem to seek our extinguishment. it made me sad. he's being funny and it was ironic. but that's where we are. this conversation is proof we would have never had it a year ago. i told you the last time i had you on, i won't stop having the
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conversation. i had chuck d. last nights. we have to keep going. >> you fancy. chuck d. >> all over the place. i have been saying it all day. >> i want to commend you. i have been watching the conversations. issue the challenges. i am proud to say you're my friend and i'm proud to see you honor that promise. know that this is the type of content and the type of conversation that saves lives. >> thank you for helping me understand and do the job the right way. god bles you. best to your father. >> i'll tell him you didn't block him this time. >> thank you. >> covid-19 isn't the only -- i didn't block him. that's not true. covid-19 isn't the only medical crisis seeing spikes. opioid over dose. we talk about mental health and addiction. it's happening. skyrocketing. just because our attention is
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over doses are spiking. deaths from drug abuse as well. opioids killing us even more during the pandemic. a 42% jump from last year. why? you know why. people are home alone. stressed. out of work. this virus if you get it attacks your body and mind. your mind and spirit and sense of self. look at the anxiety. all challenges and they'll take their toll. we have seen the devastation of addiction long before 2020. we feared it would get worse and it is. i want to bring in dr. who leads
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the national institute on drug abuse. thank you for taking time to be on "prime time." >> good evening. thanks for having me. >> so important. cannot let this issue get away it's too big. a part of the dynamic in america let alone during the pandemic. what have you seen. what concerns you the most? >> what concerns me the most is the isolation that is affecting the vulnerability of people struggling with to stay away from drugs. which has made it very difficult and all along we have had people dying from opioid over the past two decades. and it escalated to its peek in 2017. and we thought we had been able to start to control it. then on 2019 we see it start rising. then during the pandemic it gets worse. the isolation, the stress that you were mentioning.
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the over burdening of the healthcare system that no longer is able to provide for treatment. the decreasing ability of actually patients to clinics. inability for arranging for transportation. many of the ones that end up homeless. those are impacting the in prison or jail. all of the issues have become devastating in terms of the stress that it imposes on them. also the the people have of getting infected and having adverse out comes. we have an intersection that is very little. >> they have ever reason to have more trouble during this time. second aspect of this i'd love your take on. no question because of the need to emphasize covid-19. a will the of things within the healthcare system have suffered and been given a
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deprioritization. not mental health. 2 trillion approved for relief. 225 million designated for men that will health and substance abuse treatment. we knew it was going to spike. it's a lack of parody we talk mental health and physical health as if they were different. as if they don't combine. is that part of the problem? >> it's always part of the problem. it's getting worse by the crisis. it is very rare to have someone that has struggling with addiction problems that also doesn't have mental illness. depression. all of that makes it more harder for them to cope and deal. and the healthcare system has all along been struggling to try to provide support. and now covid-19 actually with all the urgent needs that
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demands no longer can provide the support system. that in the past helped people to achieve recovery. it's no longer there for them. and on top of that, another aspect that has always been hurtful maybe worse the stigma that goes against people that are mentally ill. as a result you have two problems. on the one hand the healthcare system doesn't necessary will take care of patients who suffer from addiction the belief they did it to themselves. on the other hand the person that stigmatized. no one likes to be stigmatized. they will not seek help. they don't want to be mistreated. or discriminated. so the person who will be otherwise receiving care doesn't reach out because of the fear of stigmaization. it is confounded by so many
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issues. this intersection between the pandemic and the epidemic of opioid. that it is not surprising that it has these very little consequences. and we don't even know what the numbers are. these are estimates that are starting to emerge. because we don't -- actually people when they are dying we there are not necessarily going to get an autopsy to find out what they died from. social isolation people are dying alone. they are not necessarily over doses. another aspect that is confounded. people maybe actively seeking to overdose. some of the those maybe suicide. that nobody will really understand. so there's a lot of unknowns with what we do know is that it has been exacerbated. it won't take care of itself.
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>> i understand, we knew it would get worse during covid-19. we had to prepare. we didn't. that's not new when it comes to mental health. we imprison people more than we treat them. until we treat it like the illness it is we'll never get past it in the society. i have to let you go. i have never said anything that got the kind of resonance as being provocative and something i shouldn't say about myself when i talk about how useful therapy is in my life. and getting mental health straight has been more important in my life than anything physically. it freaked people out more than anything else i have said. because of all the stigma involved. we have to get past it. you always have a place to make arguments for that work here. god bless and stay healthy. >> good message. seek treatment if you need it. >> true. i should do it five days a week.
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the 7:00 bells stop ringing, people like dr. iram khan in scottsdale, arizona do the job. doctor, thank you for being an angel among us. i know you say it's just your job, but i don't see that way. nobody goes to medical school to get beat up in a pandemic 24/7 for months. thank you for doing the work, and please give me some perspective. we are hearing about these tough calls that are being made in arizona already in terms of distribution of resources, even on the icu level. what are you seeing? >> you know, chris, as you all can see, our numbers are definitely going up. you know, people are getting sick. yes, you know, we're getting busier, but, you know, we've been preparing for this. you know, we are trying our best to get everyone what they need
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here, but we need help from the people. you know, our doctors are ready. our nurses are ready. our hospitals are ready for this. but we need the people to help us here. you know, they need to take responsibility. listen to us. mask up. stay home. physical distance. we need that from you so we can fight it. >> doctor, they will say, listen, i love what you're doing. the people who wind up in your care, those are the fat people, the sick people, the smokers. you're not putting a mask on me. i'm healthy. not all of us have to do it, just those kinds of people. let the old people and the sick people stay home and do all that stuff. the rest of us, we've got to work, we've got to live. we only get one chance at this. yolo. what do you say to them? >> well, you know, it is not just the sick, the old and the sick, you know, who are getting serious disease. even right now at this point, even though, yes, we have the numbers, the people who have underlying conditions might get
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sicker, they may wind up on a ventilator, but that does not exclude every young person from getting sick. and you have to remember, chris, we don't know what the long-term complications of these are. yes, a young person might get a mild disease. i don't know what's going to happen years down the road what beating his lungs are taking and what will we see later on. we just do not know much about this virus. you know, one thing we do know is that the prevention works. there is no treatment, period. there no vaccine yet, period. we only have prevention. masking, distancing. that's all we have and that's what we need to do. >> and it's not being done the way you need it to be done in arizona and you're already at 90% capacity of our icu beds, and not everyone has to go into the hospital, not everybody goes extremists and needs icu beds, but being that far into capacity this soon when you're not getting the right messaging anywhere else is a scary combination. doctor, for all the unpleasantness and all the
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scariness of this, please know that people like you are a bright spot and they -- that you resonate across this country faster than the virus ever can. and that people know that we owe it to people like you do our best. dr. khan, god bless. thank you for what you're doing and stay healthy. >> thank you so much, chris. all right. we're coming back right after this. when we started our business
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