dangerous outposts. >> no question. and at a time we're talking about withdrawing those forces and ending the war. i know you put a lot of heart, blood, sweat, and tears into this. thanks for coming on tonight. again, it's called "the outpost." jake tapper, thanks so much. the news continues of course. i'll hand it over to my colleague chris cuomo. "primetime" starts right now. >> thank you, jim. have a great weekend with your family. welcome to "primetime." i wish you all a safe celebration as we honor our fight for freedom in the best country of the world. the fourth could not arrive at a better moment in this country. the good news is the questions that paralyze us now are not new. and in fact the inspiration for the proper response to all that ails us is found in the pledge that introduces the significance of the 4th of july. we pledge allegiance to the flag it begins of course. even our symbol's colors have come to capture a continuing

commitment. red to never forget the blood that marked our birth, that what we have is hard fought and that the sacrifice must continue. born of revolution, and the mandate is evolution of those same ideals. white for the expected purity of our purpose. we were designed to fight the good fight against oppression. and blue for the perseverance to secure justice. and to the republic for which the flag stands, a republic meaning we put people in positions of power to represent our interests yet our electeds are too often not just about their own conscience but about opposition, ineffectiveness, and no national plan for a pandemic still needing people to take to the streets to address problems they are all aware of. they disrespect this pledge when

they do that. one nation under god indivisible. we draw on the highest inspiration of righteousness. to love one another as god loved us. to be our brother's keeper. and you won't wear a mask? indivisibility. unity. divinely inspired and yet it is where we're most lacking. our lack of unity is making us sick, literally. our president burns more calories trying to divide us than he does doing anything else. he told people the pandemic was a ploy, that masks were part of the masquerade. he lied. he defied this pledge and even now as the reality of the pain of the pandemic exposes his perfidy, his faithlessness, he follows instead of leading, not owning his duty to the office or the flag. but we the people pledge to stay together and the basis for the unity for the pledge is again

found in what follows. with liberty and justice for all. we make the pledge of allegiance based on the promise of equality. we are indivisible because we are all the same here. the pledge is at once a call to an ideal and inspiration but also a commitment to the perspiration, the hard work of evolution, change, that this grand experiment has always demanded. the pandemic of covid, the epidemic of injustice, the outrage over a lack of opportunity. all the answers are in what we pledge to do with and for one another. the challenges of ensuring the promise of america for all has always been a struggle. born of revolution, yes. but destined for continual evolution. that is where we are.

to honor the pledge by fighting for what is in it. please, do what you can to keep up the good fight. the cdc tonight projecting another 20,000 will die within the next three weeks or so. this is not the best we can do for one another. texas is now mandating masks in counties with more than 20 cases which is the way it should be. nobody is saying masks all the time everywhere for everything. but cases are spiraling out of control there. that is nearly all the state that meets the mandate. florida also seeing record-breaking spikes. 10,000 new cases reported there. this is a war we must win. where is our war time president? tweeting about ratings. how do we fight? what is the true state of play? let's bring in someone who can help lead the way, former cdc director tom freden. the best to you and your family

for the independence weekend and the best for good health during this difficult time. >> thanks, chris. to you, too. >> i read your piece "the good, the bad, and the ugly." let's go through it. what is the good in what we see right now? >> the good is we know a lot more about the virus. if you look back the last few months we've learned an astonishing amount not just about the virus but also how to control it. if you look at communities and states and countries around the world doing the right thing being guided by public health, fully supporting public health, they are winning. they are controlling the virus, keeping it in check, and reopening their economies. if you turn your back on the virus, you turn your back on science, it is going to bite you. that's what's happening in most of the u.s. where we're seeing increases and in some places really vast increases of the virus. >> so you don't see what is happening right now as a function of inevitability. you see it as a function of inaction and incomplete action. what is the bad therefore? >> well, the bad is that we're

not following what we know will work. we're not scaling up a comprehensive approach. one of the things i find so frustrating is that people seem to look for the one thing that is going to control this. whether it is restricting travel or staying home or testing a lot of people or wearing a mask. and those are all important. but none of them in and of themselves are going to control this. you need a comprehensive response. you need to basically physically distance, the three ws -- wear a mask, wash your hands, watch your distance -- and you need to box the virus in with strategic testing, effective isolation, rapid contact tracing and supportive quarantine. we are not doing that yet in most of the country. for that reason only a handful of states including here in new york are you seeing a relatively positive, quite a positive here in new york trend, but everywhere in the country is at risk when you have this kind of exponential growth in so many states. >> we're also dealing with fatigue, forbearance.

in new york it is almost exaggerated as a success story because people here want things back we're not ready for yet. we are doing better in new york than expected and than a lot of places but we are not ready for everything here. this independence weekend has to be a very different type of celebration. that takes us to the ugly. the politicization of this. the president making masks part of a faux masquerade of a hoax that never existed. the pandemic was always too real. what is the ugly in your opinion? >> there is only one enemy here. it's a virus. the more we divide, the more it can conquer us. so we can beat it by learning. one thing really well done in new york that your brother governor cuomo looked around, saw what's happening, in other parts of the country, and unlike some other parts looked at new york and said that could never happen here, said, wow. when you open restaurants, indoors, and bars, you get an explosion in young people. we're seeing that all over the

country so a really good decision to say too soon for indoor dining in new york city right now. and for places in the country it was inconceivable you had bars opening when you still had lots of spread. it is not that we're against bars or drinking. it's just the science. if you have lots of people in an indoor place for a long period of time not wearing masks, you're going to have spread of covid. >> one of the newest pushbacks i'd like your take on. our cases are going up. they're mostly young people 20 to 44. a lot of them very symptomatic. they're not getting as sick. so it is not as big a problem. >> it is true you're seeing more cases in young adults now than before and that result of that is you won't have as high a death rate initially. but young people talk to other people. the virus doesn't stay in one place. it's not as if young people don't spread it to others. what starts in the young is not going to stay in the young. you may have another few weeks or a month delay but you'll see waves of infection in others and

with that you'll see increased intensive care unit, increased deaths. right now arizona has the highest rate in the country and they're still going up steadily. one of the real problems here and what we learned the hard way in new york is even when you close it may take a month or two for things to quiet down. physical distancing is a powerful tool but it takes time to work. a hard truth that people are going to have to get used to is if you want your kids to go to school safely in the fall you have to stay apart for the next month or two in much of the country or it's not going to be possible and you'll overwhelm the health care, the hospitals and other health care systems. that is something that really bothers me, chris. because we've seen more than 400 doctors and nurses killed by covid. and that's just outrageous. these are people who are there to care for us and we have to protect them more effectively.

not only for their own health but so that covid can be treated well and also so we don't lose lives from heart attack and stroke which is what's happening when people fear the hospital, they stay home, have a heart attack, they're not cared for. you see an increase in deaths not from covid but because of the disruptions of health care that covid caused. there are a lot of harms to this virus and the way to beat it is to stick together, focus on what works, look at the data, track and hold ourselves accountable, and not rush reopening. >> to be together and to do what's smart. that is the call to arms that should have been here from the beginning. we should not be where we are but we don't have to stay here. dr. tom freden, thank you for the good, the bad, and the ugly. >> thank you. >> be well this weekend. all right. the country is in rough shape. we got big challenges. and yet the president's own flesh and blood is coming after him right now, labeling him the world's most dangerous man. his own family. you get to find out why in detail. a judge just lifted a temporary restraining order on mary trump's upcoming tell all.

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the president loves to talk about being censored and yet he tried to censor the former national security adviser's book and now he is trying to censor his niece's own book. not trump. trump's brother. but the court just said trump's niece can go forward with her book. she still has some legal issues. the latest tell all set to be released just in time for the republican convention. the central question of whether mary trump can publish centers around whether or not she violated a nearly 20-year-old confidentiality agreement. that is the issue in the air. the fight will be handled on her end by attorney ted boutros. counselor, welcome to "primetime." >> thanks so much for having me, chris. >> let's do the legalities then try to sell me on the book. you signed the confidentiality now you got to live by it. period amen you lose. >> that's wrong, chris. i think you know it is. the first amendment to the

constitution precludes what are called prior restraints which are the most dangerous and least tolerable of all first amendment violations. the supreme court has never upheld one in the context of a speech that involves public concern. this is speech in a book that is of utmost public concern. we don't even think this agreement applies here. it's 20 years old, long expired. it was very narrowly tailored. so this we feel very strongly about our legal position. >> that's the key. you're going to do the public speech exception to a contracted waiver of a right. you're an excellent lawyer. i'm not. most of the audience doesn't even care about these bigger terms. just to take one more beat on it, the story circulating around is mary wants to put out things that were private to the family, documents, understandings, and details she promised she wouldn't. why doesn't she have to keep her word? >> first, she is keeping her

word. she is complying with this agreement or she did comply with it. it doesn't have any effect anymore. it is also void as we are showing in the brief we're filing tonight. we believe it was void to begin with because of fraud because president trump and his family didn't disclose the truth about the assets involved in the agreement. there are all kinds of problems with the agreement. and miss trump is just a citizen who wants to give important information to the public about the president of the united states. president trump, you mentioned this at the top, he doesn't like the truth. he wants to censor public discussion about important public affairs including himself and the first amendment says, no. you can't do that. >> so tantalize us a little bit. what would be in this book that would be new and informational and revelatory enough to warrant this type of effort? >> well, i don't want to ruin the surprise. i'll leave that to mary trump when the book comes out.

>> she has an open invitation. >> absolutely. i'm sure she'd love to come on. and she will. what i can tell you about the book, you still have a t.r.o. against mary trump we're fighting and we're going to seek to have vacated in what we're filing tonight. i can tell you that this is someone and this has been publicly disclosed by simon & shuster mary trump had an up close and personal look at president trump for many years and has insight into his character, into what made him the person he is today, the leader of the free world, and she has information that i think will shed a lot of light on what made him the person he is and that will help all of us think about whether he is the right person to be president and maybe understand him better in terms of how he has acted while he's been president. there could be no more important information for the public. >> anything about his taxes?

>> i'm not going to ruin the surprise. as i said, we do in our brief tonight talk about some of the financial issues. i'll just leave the book to the book and focus on the legal issues and get this tro completely eliminated so the public can have a full discussion and understanding of all these issues. >> can you tell us what you talk about with the financials in the brief seeing how that may be made public? >> what we argue in the brief is that the settlement agreement, itself, 20 years ago, was the product of fraud, and we cite the "new york times" article from october of 2018 that did an exhaustive analysis of the trump family finances and found, won the pulitzer prize, that the trump family including the president were under valuing assets in significant ways in order to evade taxes. and assets that were part of that settlement agreement. and so the settlement agreement

that includes the nondisclosure agreement was the product of fraud. therefore it's void and can't be enforced. it is one of the many reasons it's just not worth the paper it is printed on at this point. >> ted boutros, thank you very much for giving us a peek into the litigation. you filed the brief tonight. obviously you won't get any relief over the weekend but we'll be watching you and your client are welcome on the show to make the case for the interest of the book. open invitation. >> thank you. thanks very much. >> god bless. be well. thank you for being with us tonight. is the president endangering the lives of americans with what he wants to do at mount rushmore tomorrow? i don't know how you argue that he isn't. i mean, thousands are expected. the governor has said you don't have to socially distance. you can wear a mask if you want. how is that not putting people at risk? we'll bring in the sheriff who is doing a lot of prep for the trip. is he worried? am i missing something? what is the source of the confidence? next.

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so we said we'll see with what the president does about his event in south dakota, whether or not he is now serious about doing what he can to protect people from the pandemic saying, yeah, i'll wear a mask isn't enough. he is going forward with his event at mount rushmore tomorrow despite the science, despite the warnings, despite one of his well, own well known surrogates now in the hospital after athe last rally. at least 7500 people are set to attend. no need to socially distance they are told by the governor. nothing else said by the president. we wanted to talk to the governor of south dakota about what she plans to do to protect the people. she won't come on. she did say this to a friendlier network. >> those who want to come and join us we'll be giving out free face masks if they choose to wear one but we won't be social

distancing. we are asking them to come, be ready to celebrate, to enjoy the freedoms and the liberties we have in this country. >> now, masks are optional. no social distancing. even as infections continue to rise in the state. there is no question south dakota is not a hot spot. it doesn't have density. but make no mistake. this isn't about freedom what's happening there. this is about whether politics are worth the risk of american health. joining us now is sheriff kevin tom not a politician. sheriff of pennington county. that is not why he is here. he is not here to argue politics. i just want to talk to him about the event. he is responsible for the home village to mount rushmore. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. i appreciate the opportunity to be on your show. >> the first thing before we get into the obvious, you guys hadn't been allowing fireworks around the monument there because of forest fire risk and other things.

that ban was overturned for this event. any concern? how are you trying to address the potential issues there? >> there were fireworks at mount rushmore for nine or ten years previously. there's ban gap since that time. of course in a forest setting fires are always a concern so we have processes in place through people that are experts in that area to monitor the conditions. this week we're fortunate. we've had rain showers several nights, another rain shower this evening move through the area so that will help mitigate risk of fire. >> good luck with that. obviously you stopped doing it for a reason. you didn't put the rules in place. but you are in charge with enforcement. your job is a little easier because there is nothing to enforce but are you concerned at all with that many people coming together and no social distancing and no demand that they wear a mask?

are you worried about what that means from a health perspective? >> yeah. we've been planning this event for over six months. we started pre-covid-19 and now of course post covid-19. there is a variety of factors in planning an event like this. of course our land is public safety. there is a medical piece to that. there are some measures put in place. one is an outdoor event which does help reduce the spread of covid-19. face masks are available. there are sanitization stations. those measures have been taken and again, those that are uncomfortable with the setting shouldn't attend. it is an individual choice. we're pretty independent in the west. if you want to attend you should. if not there are other options. watch it live stream on tv. a variety ofway is to watch it. >> are you going to have the men and women under your control wearing masks? >> no. they will not be.

>> why not? >> again, we're outdoors. and we're mostly on the peripheral of the crowd. some are deputies. some of the state troopers are out at check points literally standing outside their patrol cars as other cars are coming into the event, so the contact, direct contact with people is pretty minimal. absent of course having to make an arrest or something like that. >> what if they have to go into the crowd to do something? >> same thing. it is an outdoor event so we feel it is safe to do that and we aren't going to be wearing masks. >> are you going to put up any kind of warnings for people that they understand the risk going on while they're there? >> again, that is not our lane, per se. i know the governor's office has done messaging along those lines. i can't tell you what they all are. >> sheriff, you do know that being outside isn't a complete protection, right?

it makes it harder for the disease to spread but you're not home free. as you know in every place that deals with cases it doesn't end the need for social distancing or masks if it's outside, right? >> i understand there is a risk with covid-19 and no perfect setting so to speak when you get into crowds whether in a beach, shopping mall, venue like this. that is an individual choice if they want to come or not. >> where does it end in terms of being an individual choice in your estimation? >> i don't know what you mean by that question. >> you said, look. it is your choice whether you want to come. absolutely. when do you think somebody is right to go somewhere and do it the way they want in terms of what they mean as a risk to somebody else's right to not get sick? >> again, at mount rushmore, this event in particular there

will be 7500 attendees and some additional staff above and beyond that. a typical day at mount rushmore during the summer you can have 30,000 to 40,000 people pass through. the record day was 50,000. it is a venue that can accommodate a lot of people and again is outdoors so -- >> you've had this many people before standing in one place that close together as they will be that's happened on a regular basis? >> are you talking about recently? >> 7500 people standing close as they will be here not walking through or transiting through, not part of a tour but staying in one place to listen to a speech, various speeches, and a fireworks display. is that common? >> at mount rushmore it is. again, talking years past. every summer it is very busy. almost 3 million tourists a year pass through.

it is a busy place and most of that is compressed into -- >> just never during a pandemic before. >> it has a new dynamic obviously and has changed the way we do business in our country. those 3 million people pass through that venue over the course of mostly five or six months so it is a busy place and a lot of people come through there. >> so you're not worried about it, sheriff? >> i'm good with the way we have it set up and the precautions we have in place, yes. >>a presh yat it. i know you didn't set the rules. you have to enforce it. i hope it goes well. best to you and the family. >> thank you. >> covid is of course the main concern for anybody who wants to be reasonable about it especially once you get into big cities like chicago. it is also fighting hard to beat back an uptick. by the way that is a very gentle term. you've seen the numbers. the shootings and the deaths that are happening in that city

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we hear it again and again from the right. don't look at the protests against police brutality until you get to the bottom of black on black crime and their favorite city to point to is chicago, which is dealing with continuous violence and a sharp rise in murders and shootings. president trump recently wrote a letter to the mayor about the problem but she, you know, what she believes he was sending in that letter was really a racist rant. chicago's mayor lightfoot joins

us now. i wish you and the family good health during this difficult time and a safe celebration this weekend. >> thank you, sir. >> specifically applies to you in chicago. what are your concerns heading into the holiday weekend? >> well, look. 4th of july is a time that should be of community. it is a very challenging time this year. most of our celebrations are going to be virtual and we of course are concerned with the continuing plague of covid-19. we want to make sure people are gathering but in small groups, practicing social distancing, wearing face coverings in public. we are trending in the right direction regarding covid-19 but all around us and certainly in places across the country they are red hot. cities and towns and states in other parts of the country are setting daily records for cases and deaths. we do not want that to be the narrative and the fate of chicago so what i keep urging our residents is we have to remain resolute and keep

practicing the things that have gotten us to this point where we can start to safely but cautiously reopen. >> why is there so much black on black violence, crime, and death in chicago? >> i think to answer that question you have to also look at what has been the legacy of racism and segregation and lack of investment in our city? that is really what is causing a lot of this. violence is an explosion, but there is a root cause underneath that. in too many of our neighborhoods historically we've not invested enough in making sure we have access to good health care, good jobs, schools. fundamentally giving residents in crime plagued neighborhoods a sense of hope and optimism that the city sees them and the city, all of us, is supportive of them. we've changed that around in my one year in office but there is

so much more work to be done. in particular, we've got to reach out to those young men that are on the corners, that are the shooters, and we've got to brick their consciousness about the sanctity of life. we also need an all hands on deck approach. it can't just be on the police. certainly that doesn't work. it can't just be on city government although we're all hands on deck. it's got to be the responsibility of every chicagoan and every community to think about and execute on what we all can do to keep our community safe. >> what's happened in chicago goes back even to the days of brother bill on cabrini green. i understand the situation well. the president says you know what the common denominator? is you lousy democrats have been in charge thaf city forever and that's why you've never helped these people. you take the blacks and the black vote for granted. you never do anything for them.

they should give him a chance. what do you say? >> look, the reality is the president's criticisms of chicago and d.c. and atlanta and seattle and other major cities that are controlled by democratic mayors is patently transparent. it's political. he is trying to borrow a page from the richard nixon playbook where you divide and you conquer. you scare white suburbanites. you scare white working class folks. into thinking that you're the person who's got all the answers and the democrats are failed. here is the reality for this president. when he picks on me and jenny durkin and keisha lance bottoms and muriel bowser we are all very tough women. we are leading because that is what mayors do. we are not failing every single day to step up and own responsibility and be a leader in this incredible time. the president needs to take our

lead and follow it because we are demonstrating every day what leadership is in the toughest of times. we need the president to be a better leader. we need him to take ownership of this responsibility. even though he failed in these three months he still has an opportunity to lead but he is not interested in that. what he is interested in is dividing and conquering. that is not a recipe for success. we need a leader like joe biden who is going to step up and seize the opportunity to bring people together and recognize that all the answers aren't in government but if the president of the united states fails to exemplify the greatness of our country and bring our people together we will fail as a country. we're not going to let that happen. >> just to be clear you don't think it is a coincidence he is pointing out women mayors. >> no. >> you do not believe his interest in his letter lies in stopping black-on-black crime. >> no.

look, if the president was really interested in helping cities like chicago he wouldn't be trying to attack the affordable care act. he would be trying to support it. he would expand medicare. he wouldn't continue to demonize our immigrant and refugee communities. he wouldn't be demonizing the lgbtq 2 plus community. he'd be investing in affordable housing and the infrastructure bill he talks so much about has never materialized. why? because the president has failed to lead. big talk little action. some places of in the country we call that all hat no cattle. the president has failed to lead. it is obvious every single day the mountain of evidence of his failed leadership and failed presidency is just accumulating like a rising pile of, i'll let you fill in the blanks. we don't need this divisiveness. we need support. we need help. we need true leadership.

never once has he -- since i got elected one time he's called me and said, mayor, what can we do together? if he was sincere in wanting to lead he wouldn't just send me some letter he then publicizes and tries to run on. he would roll up his sleeves and ask mayors what can i do to help? >> mayor lightfoot good luck to you in chicago this wnt and beyond. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks so much. i appreciate it. >> all right. this story killed me and i really think you need to hear it. 53 years of marriage. beautiful. a story of how these two met, how they fell in love, built a life together. they just passed away together literally within hours of each other in texas holding hands in their hospital beds. may they rest in peace. my condolences to their family. i really deeply believe you need to look at this story as something that didn't have to

happen. their half a century love story did not have to have covid as its last chapter. don't take it from me. take it from their son. i want you to hear about betty and curtis and how covid took them and what it means to him and his family, next. you're first. first to respond. first to put others' lives before your own.

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each new covid case number, each new death. those are people, families destroyed. people that you would know that you have, your mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, kids. betty and curtis tarpley, ft. worth, texas, met in high school. found each other as adults, fell in love. got married. had two kids. married for 53 years. you know how hard that is these days? last month both tested positive for coronavirus. they both ended up in the hospital.

the hospital realized they were -- this was not going to be turning out well and they let them be together, and minutes later holding hands. i am very sorry for your loss. i don't know this degree of loss. to lose both your parents, at the same time. the measure of solace, of course, being that they were together and they went together. but, what has this been like for your family? >> i mean, it's -- i'm not going to lie, it's been tough. you know, it's just like -- like any life loss is tough. and i think it's a little bit easier that they went at the same time. and we're not seeing one of them, mourning over the other. so that's the bright side of it. but, you know, they were -- you

know, they were 80 years old. and they were both -- had decided they were ready to go. so, at that point, as a child, you can't really, you know, give your opinion about it. >> well, they decided it was their time because they were sick. but they didn't have to be sick. i mean, that's what kills me about this. 80 is a beautiful life. but, you know, they were well before this. you know, they weren't getting ready to run the marathon. but what are your feelings about how -- what took them and why this happened? >> i mean, we really don't know how, you know, my mom got it. she was -- she was careful. and she had become really good at ordering online. probably, better than i did. but i mean, she could figure out how to get stuff. and she could let us know if we needed to bring her something. so, she was careful. and then, when things started opening back up, and i think just, you know, the complacency

of, you know, the numbers are going down and we've flattened the curve. all that stuff kind of made them just lean back and think it was going to be okay. my dad didn't leave the house all year. so it wasn't -- he just couldn't afford it. his health was not good, from the beginning. but we -- we still don't know where my mom got it. and that's the thing. you know, she wore a mask. but you just don't know these -- we really just don't know much about this virus. >> no, we don't. all we know is -- all we know is what it does to people like you, when you lose your loved ones. and, look, again, we know the old are vulnerable. we know your father and a lot of others like him check a lot of boxes of vulnerability and c co-morbidity, they call it these days. but i had to talk to you because, one, i feel for you. i know that i miss my father all the time. my whole family does. my mother, most of all, to your point about watching one grieve another. but one of the pains of this situation that we're in is that

they shouldn't have been taken now. yes, they had a beautiful life. but if we were taking this more seriously, just makes me think that maybe we would've bought them another year, another six months, another couple years. and that may not matter to a lot of people when it's not their mother and father. but what would you do with another six months with your parents? >> i mean, that's the kind of thing. it's -- you know, we really had a great relationship these whole last couple years. and, you know, my dad is -- we have said our good-byes and things like that. so we were really kind of at peace we knew if they got it -- and honestly, when i took my mom to the hospital, i never thought that she had it. so this was kind of a shock that she tested positive. so it's just one of those things. yeah. i think everybody would want one more moment or one more chance with someone they can't be with. >> tell me something about your parents that people should know so that their experience with them isn't just what took them.

but how they live their lives. >> it's now in this -- this stage of grief, i guess. that -- and, you know, i've been lucky. so, you know, i've had the virus so i've been quarantined. and my poor sister's been having to go through the stuff, and handle all the arrangements and stuff. but, you know, so i've been somewhat secluded from the world. but it's just within of those things. all the lessons they've taught you along way are now -- you're realizing your traits and your skills. where they came from. and that's even more of a blessing. >> what will you remember most? >> oh, man. i've done so many of these interviews. and it's like every time you get done, you're like, i forgot that one thing. i think with my dad, it was always, if something didn't work or you needed something. if they made a tool, then, he

could just build it or fix it. you know, if there was a tool made for that, he could handle it. figure it out. and then, that was my mom. my mom was always about let's just figure out how to work this. make this money last a little bit longer. they were just fun adventurers that, you know, it was perfect. >> what an example for you to have. i am so sorry for your loss, tim. but, you know, it's kind of a trick question because it can't be just one thing, when you have such special people. i'm showing a picture of your family right now. what a beautiful legacy you all offer them. and that's what everybody wants, as you know, as a parent. is for your kids to carry on and to have it better than you did, and to take what you know and add to it. so thank god you had them as long as you did. you have the memories that you have. there is a picture of you with your mom holding a baby. beautiful. hold onto those memories, and remember what they taught you and remember them at their best. and i'm so sorry you lost them the way you did. and i wish you the best, going forward. >> thank you.

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