tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 6, 2020 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
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and good evening. thanks for being with us. in divisive, inflammatory words could kill the coronavirus, the president of the united states would be heading to stockholm right now to pick up his nobel prize in medicine. instead, he is surrounded by people frequently wearing masks and from the safety of his biological bunker, he is encouraging the rest of us not to follow the best scientific advice. he is trying to persuade the country that the virus is simply vanishing.
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or if that won't work, he is trying to divert people's attention elsewhere to smearing a black nascar driver. so kneeiowing it's a diversion, begin where attention ought to be. white house task force member anthony fauci put it today, quote, we are still knee deep in the first wave of this. today, the country crossed another milestone. 130,000 lives lost. by tomorrow or wednesday, it will pass another 3 million known covid cases. that milestone. those are facts. so is this. we now have more cases than any other country on earth and more fatalities, again, than any other country on earth. we're number one for cases and deaths. america is first. it is a fact that, because of how much worse we are doing than any other country on earth, americans can't travel to other parts of the world. can't fly, for example, to europe, where the virus is largely under control. this chart showing the u.s. and european union. showing why this country is now a pariah.
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the two different paths, that we have taken, versus europe. why it's now, in the eyes of our friends and allies -- why we are now, in the eyes of our friends and allies. florida starting to experience what new york did in the spring. approaching 12,000 new cases a day. california also nearing the 12,000 a day mark putting six more counties today on the state's coronavirus danger list. in texas, the hospitalization rate continues to soar. hospitals, whether houston, austin, or west texas, are at oar neor near capacity. and it's happening in small states as well. kansas reporting the deepest spike since the pandemic began. climbing in 32 states, steady in 14, falling in just four. that is a fact. a fact, along with all the others, that the president seems to, neither, comprehend, nor wants the public to see. he doesn't want you to know
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this. here he is saturday by the gaslight's blue glare. >> we've made a lot of progress. our strategy is moving along well. it goes out in one area, and rears back its ugly face in another area. but we've learned a lot. we've learned how to put out the flame. likewise, testing. there were no tests for a new virus. but, now, we have tested almost 40 million people. by so doing, we show cases, 99% of which are totally harmless. >> and that is not a fact. before going any further, we should just acknowledge the difficulty of nailing down, precisely, how deadly covid-19 is. estimates vary. according to johns hopkins university, fatality rate is 4.6%. again, that's the fatality rate. just the percentage of people who actually die, not just
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people who get sick, have permanent damage to their bodies, have a very difficult time with covid. that's just fatalities. doctors treating patients say survivors can have permanent, life-altering damage to their bodies, their lungs, their brains, other parts. in any case, just by simple arithmetic, anything that is 4.6% fatal cannot be 99% harmless. how he trivializes it. it's how he diminishes the loss of so many human lives and how he demeans the sons and daughters and fathers and mothers and friends left behind. today, mark meadows, the president's chief of staff was asked about the claim. you'll see words did come out of the front of his face. as for whether they made any sense, you can decide for yourself. >> the president said that 99% of coronavirus cases are totally harmless. public health experts disagree. >> well, i'm not sure -- yeah, i'm not sure which public health expertings that you are talking
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about. i probably get to review numbers -- more numbers. and when you look at the facts, when you look at, really, what we're -- we're dealing with. a lot of these cases are asymptomatic. additionally, when we look at a population of over 325 million people, in what we're looking at, those statistics would indicate about 102%, you know, when that 99% came from actual numbers. and you can look at numbers, a number of different ways. hold on. let me finish the -- you know, you ask the questions. i'll try to answer them. all right. >> that was the best he could do. at least, he did not try, as kayleigh mcenany, the white house press secretary, did to deny he said what he even said. i'm going to play a portion to refresh your memory what the president said. >> we have tested almost 40 million people. by so doing, we show cases, 99%
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of which are totally harmless. >> totally harmless. now, here's how the woman who promised, on her very first day, never to tell a lie, answered the following questions. >> the president said that 99% of coronavirus cases are totally harmless. which members of the white house coronavirus task force agree with that statement? >> so, what the president was pointing to, and i -- i'm glad you brought it up -- was a factual statement. one that is rooted in science, and one that was pointing out the fact that mortality in this country is very low. what the president's noting is that, at the height of this pandemic, we were at 2,500 deaths per day. we are now at a place where, on july 4th, there were 254. >> so, actually, the president mentioned none of that. he said that 99% of covid infections are, quote, totally harmless. he talked about ventilators, protective gear, treatments, and vaccines, and china. he, certainly, mentioned china a lot, of course.
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but nowhere, did he connect any of it to decreasing mortality. rather, his 99% remark seemed more in line with many others lately, dismissing the need for so much testing. >> so we go out and we test 25 million people, which is a lot. you never thought that was even possible. most people didn't. and we could go up a lot higher than that, and i guess we are. but i tell my people it's a double-edged sword because we do so much testing. and, again, we have kids with sniffles and, all of a sudden, we report a case and they're no danger, whatsoever. >> no danger, whatsoever. he says. 99% harmless. that's not him talking. it as kayleigh mcenany suggested. and thank god that hospitals and doctors do know more about this virus, now. and are able to treat it better. it seems, instead, to be part of the same contempt he's always had for testing, period, because it makes him look bad. that's what he's felt, from the beginning of this. i mean, just think about how
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warped that is. and that, in turn, plays into his larger disregard for all of it. keeping him honest. this self-professed wartime president took himself out of the fight months ago. and being even more honest, he was never in the fight to begin with. he avoided wars and nowhere to be found. maybe those old bone spurs of his suddenly flaring up but he wasn't in the fight. now, he wants all of us to just suck it up. from "the washington post," cnn political analyst shares the byline of the story. quoting now. the goal is to convince americans that they can live with the virus. white house officials also hope americans will grow numb to the escalating death toll, and learn to accept tens of thousands of new cases a day, according to three people familiar with the white house's thinking, who requested anonymity to reveal internal deliberations. americans will live with the virus being a threat, in the words of one of those people, a senior administration official. and that -- that is precisely what the president's words and
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actions have been hinting at for weeks now. this president wants you to just suck it up. not just the virus but his failure to take it seriously. his inaction, all during the month of february. his lies and phony promises about the virus just miraculously disappearing. he wants you to accept what people in no other country are being told to accept. because now, this isn't just a virus killing us and making people sick. it's incompetence and failure of leadership. instead of working around the clock on this, visiting hospitals, rallying the troops, fight complacency, care for elderly and sick. this president is simply declaring victory. declaring covid 99% harmless, instead of talking about the virus and doing things about it, he is spending his time trying to distract now with racist and he's just letting us see it, more clearly now, than ever before. >> our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes,
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erase our values, and indoctrinate our children. angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders. deface our most sacred memorials and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities. >> with 130,000, once living, once breathing americans, now dead and tens of thousands now hospitalized. the president has made it his priority to protect inanimate objects. angered by the contempt americans have. the statues designed to glorify the confederacy and perpetuate white supremacy. that's what those statues were built for. to make people believe in the idea of the confederacy. the lie that we were being told. that history has told. the president is rallying around
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confederate flags that nascar banned after a noose was found in the garage of bubba wallace, the sport's only top african-american driver. it later turned out that the noose had been there before anyone knew wallace would be using that garage but the incident sparked a reckoning and led nascar to reexamine the racist symbol surrounding it. here is the tweet by the president. has bubba wallace apologized to all those great nascar officials who came by his side only to find out the whole thing was just another hoax? lowest ratings ever. comes back to ratings. that's all this president cares about. numbers. you notice how quick he is to attack black athletes b. gun-toting weekend warriors dressed up to look like special forces troops calling themselves militia bursting into the michigan state house screaming at politicians, outraged because they don't want to wear masks.
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those folks, according to the president, good people. if they'd been black, what do you think he would have said? the president of the united states defending the flying of the confederate battle flag. and it's his press secretary who is trying to say that's not what he's really doing. >> what is the president's position? does he think nascar made a mistake by banning the confederate flag? >> so, i spoke to him this morning about this and he said he was not making a judgment, one way or the other. the intent of the tweet was to stand up for the men and women of nascar and the fans and those who have gone in this rush to judgment of the video to call something a hate crime. when, in fact, the fbi report concluded this was not an intentional racist act. and it very much mirrors other times there have been a rush to judgment with the covington boys. >> does he think it was a mistake for nascar to ban it? >> the president said he wasn't making a judgment, one way or the other.
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you are focusing on one word at the bottom of a tweet and neglecting the complete rush to zwru judgment of this. >> the president was noting, in aggregate, this notion nascar of men and women who are being demeaned and being called racist. accused, in some venues, of committing a hate crime against individual, those allegations were just dead wrong. >> she went on to say a lot more along those lines but as much as she tried to deny, this is where the president's head is. threatening statue vandals and defending the names of the washington redskins and cleveland indians. this is where he wants to be. this is what he wants us discussing. this is what he wants the countryi country thinking and talking about. a few hundred statues. a few people of color he doesn't like. anything but the disease he cannot cope with and the people whose lives he is failing to protect. perspective now from two leading public health experts. dr. peter hotez, dean of the
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school of tropical medicine. also, william haseltine, researcher formerly at harvard university and author of "the family guide to covid." dr. hotez, you are in one of the epicenters of the virus right now in houston. i'm wondering when you hear the president saying 99% of cases are harmless. i mean, as a scientist, what do you think? >> well, anderson, what i think about are the 2,000 covid-19 patients, right now, we have in our texas medical center in houston, including 600 in the icu. almost 600 in the icu. you can't hide icu admissions. you can't hide hospitalizations. and i think about a lot of my former students and residents, doctors, nurses, who are taking care, technicians, who are taking care of those patients tonight. so this is a catastrophe for our city and the state of texas. the numbers are accelerating,
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precipitously. around 7, 8,000 cases a day. we are seeing this in florida. we're seeing this in arizona. the cases are rising so rapidly that, we cannot even do contact tracing anymore i don't think. i don't see how it's possible to even do that. so, essentially, even our limited means of public-health control are not possible. so, this is -- this dramatic acceleration. the epidemic out of control in the southern part of the united states. now, we're seeing the numbers rise in tennessee and the northern part of the midwest. you know, last week, there were 40,000 new cases a day. earlier earlier. then, later in the week, 50,000. now, it's getting 60,000. dr. fauci predicted 100,000 new cases a day, and we're rapidly approaching that. so this is a public-health crisis for our nation. >> professor haseltine, when the
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white house says the rest of the world looks to the u.s., i mean, as a leader on covid-19. how do you wrap your head around that? i mean, what needs to be done now? i mean, if -- if dr. hotez is right that in some of these states, there's no point in doing contact tracing because there's just too many cases. it's just not possible. >> well, first of all, this is -- i agree entirely -- this is a terrible tragedy for our country. and it is a preventable tragedy. at this point, what we have to do is people have to exert their own, individual responsibility. it's clear we don't have national leadership to do that. the leadership in our governors' mansions is erratic. sometimes it's good. sometimes it's not. and then, it changes. some of our mayors are great and some aren't. it's, unfortunately, up to each individual to be responsible for themselves, their family, and all those around them. and it's a very difficult thing to ask people, who really are
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getting mixed messages. but i'm afraid, at this point, we've passed the point of no return, in many of our states. not all. in new york, in new jersey, northern california, people are responsible. but, at this point, it's up to us and that is a very sad thing to say about your country. >> dr. hotez, dr. fauci said something today that i want to read to our viewers. he said rather than looking at the public health effort versus economic opening, as if they were opposing forces, they're not. we should use the public-health effort as a vehicle and a pathway to get to safe reopening. it's not an obstacle. it's a pathway to do that. that is just logical and makes sense. and frankly, that's nothing new. that is the argument he and health professionals have been making, all along. but the administration has created this, either, you're for opening or you're for everybody
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staying at home, rather than it being a pathway, one to the other. >> well, anderson, what they can't figure out is this. as the numbers approach that 100,000 mark per day, and it's going to be pretty quick, we're soon going to get to the point where everybody in the united states knows someone, personally, who's very sick with covid-19. that is going to have an incredibly destabilizing effect on the country. that, itself, will come close to collapsing the economy. >> got to take a quick break. there is a lot more to talk about. what we come back, we' will tel you more about dr. anthony fauci's latest assessment. why the president is wrapping himself in the flag of a failed racist past. this selenite grey is so pretty isn't it?
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the reality seem to be facing. or that he has not been warned. we alluded to it at the top in a live stream with his boss, pulled no punches. >> the current state is really not good, in the sense that, as you know, we have been in a situation. we were averaging about 20,000 new cases a day. two days ago, it was at 57,500. so, within a period of a week and a half, we've almost doubled the number of cases. so, in answer to your first question, we are still knee-deep in the first wave of this. and i would say, this would not be considered a wave. it was a -- a surge or a resurgence of infections, superimposed upon a baseline, frances, that really never got
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down to where we wanted to go. >> back, now, with dr. peter hotez and professor william haseltine. professor haseltine, is it becoming more evident at least in the united states to go back to a semblance of pre-covid life is for a vaccine? is that the only hope? >> well, i hope it's not the only hope. i think, behavior change, by most people, is the actual answer. but there are two solutions from the medical world. one is a vaccine that everybody's talking about. in my opinion, it's going to come. but it will be partially effective, and we don't know for how long it will last. there is another solution, which is coming very quickly, which is a bridge to an effective vaccine. and, that is, the use of combinations of antiviral drugs to suppress the virus, and to protect people from being infected in the first place. we know that works for another virus that affects, in this case, instance, children.
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we know that it works to malaria. and so, we are very hopeful. we actually know and have the drugs and the model for this is hiv. we've developed drugs, and there's some spectacular, new drugs on the near horizon for controlling hiv. we can do this. so, that is a double strategy from the medical world. providing drugs to prevent infection for those who are exposed. we should be a bridge to a safe and effective vaccine, for which we will have time to test, to make sure it's, both, safe and effective. >> but, professor haseltine, if states, now, aren't able to do contact tracing because there are sifrmmply too many cases. you know, that's -- in a war movie, this is -- you know, calling air strikes on your own position because the enemy is in the wire. i mean, it's -- it would seem to be a huge concern, just from a social-distancing standpoint. you would still argue that people, as you said, people need
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to kind of take control of this, themselves. and -- and -- and do social distancing. wearing masks. that it's up to each of us, now. >> that is, unfortunately, about where we are now. however, you know, what you'll see is the moment there is a way to prevent infection for those who are exposed with drug treatment, which there will be, people will flock to be tested if they have been exposed. once there's a way to prevent you from being infected, the complete mind changes. we've seen that with a number of diseases. again, hiv, for example. once we had drugs to treat people with hiv, people wanted to be tested. before, there was no incentive to be tested. now, if you're tested and you are exposed, you might have to be quarantined for two or three weeks. that, instead of taking a couple of pills every day, is going to be your al tternative. and i think you're going to see a mind change. so this -- this isn't forever. it's for a while.
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>> dr. hotez, i mean, what do you -- what -- in terms of where you are, in houston, what needs to happen? what -- what -- what are the steps? >> well, let me just follow on with dr. haseltine. i, absolutely, i agree. i mean, we will have partially protective vaccines. and we will have various forms of prophylaxis but it's not going to happen for several months. at the very early yekiest, mayb months, maybe a year. and during that period, a lot of damage will happen. the rate of acceleration we're seeing. we'd have catastrophic numbers of deaths. so, we still need that national roadmap and plan. and we can do this. we can stop this virus, if there's the political will and leadership and we can discuss how that could be done. >> dr. peter hotez, professor william haseltine, as always, thank you so much. really appreciate it. just ahead, a deeper dive into the question the white house press secretary had trouble answering today about why president trump attacked a black
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want to talk more now about something we mentioned at the top of the program. president trump's tweet about nascar driver bubba wallace, which wasn't just factless in its attack against the nascar driver. it was racist, just plain and simple. negative stories and poll numbers is to point at the only black person in a room full of white guys and say, what about that guy there? and make up things he definitely didn't do so you can get out of a jam. and then, for good measure, bear hug the confederate flag, just in case it wasn't clear to
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your base, whose side you are on. that is racist. we want to play again kayleigh mcenany's attempt to justify her boss's words. >> what is the president's position? does he think nascar made a mistake by banning the confederate flag? >> so i spoke to him this morning about this, and he said he was not making a judgment, one way or the other. the intent of the tweet was to stand up for the men and women of nascar and the fans and those who have gone and this rush of judgme to judgment of the media. >> but let's -- let's drill down on the confederate flag. does he think it was a mistake for nascar to ban it? >> the president said he wasn't making a judgment, one way or the other. you are focusing on one word at the very bottom of a tweet that's completely taking it out of context. and neglecting the complete rush to judgment on this. >> ratings are down because they
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banned the flag? that's what he said. >> the president was noting the fact that, in aggregate, this notion that nascar men and women who have gone and are being demeaned and called racist and being accused in some venues of committing a hate crime against an individual. those allegations were just dead wrong. >> that is the press secretary for the president of the united states of america trying to justify the president's embrace of the confederate flag. joining us now, bakari sellers, also, author of the new book "my vanishing country." also, with us, chief political correspondent dana bash. bakari sellers, i don't even know what the question is here. to see kayleigh mcenany kind of, you know, contorting herself, in order to, somehow, claim that the president, you know, isn't siding on the side of the confederate flag. it just -- it's so blatant and obvious. >> i mean, i guess it's difficult when your boss is racist. but let's look at it in the entire context of the president today. not only did he ask for bubba
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wallace, the lone black driver, to apologize. not only did he embrace the confederate flag. but he, also, talked about the fact the washington redskins and cleveland indians should not change their names. he talked about black-on-black crime and i am going to use air quotes with that. he even went out today in a tweet and said the china virus. today, he hit on every single racist note possible. and i want people to understand that, if someone tweets all of these things, let alone, tweets all of these things in one day, the only thing you can deduce is that this individual is racist. my disappointment, actually, is with the people around him. i come on tv and say that a lot because it seems to fall on deaf ears. but where are the good, white folk on the republican party? you know, where are these individuals, who claim to be able to say black lives matter? but still, yet, cannot condemn this behavior and say that it's out of line. i mean, people just get
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extremely quiet. and -- and, to trump voters, look, i am someone who will articulate, very clearly, that everybody who votes for trump is not a racist. however -- however, you have to be willing to set aside the bigotry, xenophobia, and racism that comes out of his mouth and my question is, how do you do that? so, we have a president who's exhibited racist behavior, who's used racism as political currency, who is racist. and nobody wants to stand up against that. and so, that's where we are as a country. it's not even democrat or republican right now. it's -- it's good versus bad. it's racist versus not racist. it's right versus wrong. and that's where we are. >> ba ckari, kayleigh mcenany w, years ago, said donald trump -- what he said about, you know, mexicans being sent here, who are rapists. that was -- she said that was racist when she was on cnn. and now, she is here, defending, as i said, going into
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contortions. dana, partly to bakari's point, there's been reporting recently republicans are starting to get nervous about the president's extreme rhetoric and behavior. i mean, i don't know how many times that we've heard, like, republicans are nervous. you know, lindsey graham's sitting on a porch, you know, fanning himself. and -- and, you know, concerned. i mean, it -- that's just -- at what point does somebody actually speak up? are they just all just worried about, you know, re-election and control of the senate? >> well, let's just talk about politics. the answer is, yes, of course, they are very worried about their own re-election. they are very worried about control of the senate because it's teetering in -- in a big way. and -- and they're worried about losing even more house -- more seats in the house, if this continues. lindsey graham, actually, is one of the people who did speak -- speak out. he was on local station in south carolina saying that what the president said was wrong today.
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and i was actually kind of struck by that because he has been loathed to say anything negative, recently, about the president, at all. look. what bakari just said is he explained, you know, the morality of this, which is blatant to anybody who even has a small child, who understands right and wrong. but i'm just going to give you a quick summation of the politics of this. and this is based on republican sources i have been talking to, including just tonight. which is that the president, first of all, it's -- it's his gut. it's his go to. when he feels backed in a corner, he goes to where his political comfort zone is. and that is what got him where he is from 2016, which is play to the base, us versus them. you know, rile up people to say -- to -- to feel that their way of life is -- is coming to an end. but there's something else. and, that is, that he is being told there are so-called low propensity voters out there, potential trump voters out there who didn't come out in 2016, who
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might perk up, who will perk up, to the kinds of arguments that the president is making. is it right? no. is it strategic? possibly. but it's mostly he's going with his gut, like he always does. >> bakari, "the wall street journal" editorial board defended his speech in what they call, quote, traditional american principles. liberal elites have created this opening for him by failing to stand up against radicals who are using the justified anger at the killing of george floyd as a cudgel to hijack america's hib ral institutions and impose their intolerant political views on everyone else. >> i want to be clear. this moment's never been just about george floyd. this moment's not just about breonna taylor, ahmaud arbery, david mcatee, rayshard brooks. the list goes on and on. in fact, this moment is about institutionalized racism and systemic injustice.
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and for those individuals who i presume lack diversity on that editorial board. i would say one of the things that's most important is to actually bring black folk and brown folk into your editorial rooms, in your journalistic institution, so you won't write misguided op-eds like that. that's first and foremost. but the second thing, and probably the larger thing and more important thing, is this is a reckoning with america's history. and you may be right. that these are traditional american values. it -- it -- it wreaks of hypocrisy though and irony that when i say black lives matter. when i say we should not have a statue of ben tillman or john calhoun or we should not have a statue of a confederate general, you say that's anti-american. or you call me as being anything less than patriotic. what that shows, though, is that the underbelly of this country -- and let me be clear, this country was built on the back of black folks and native
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americans. we built this country, and we built it for free. so, while you want to criticize us and while you want to confuse your prejudice with patriotism, you need to simply understand that we are still here. and our blood runs through the soil of this great country. and my father and jimmy lee jackson, medger evers and emmet till, are just as american as those individuals writing those bs op-eds at the "wall street journal." and that's what we have to realize. >> bakari sellers, dana bash, thank you, appreciate it. up next, president trump doesn't seem to think exists this hotspot, miami-dade, one of the largest counties in the united states shutting down gyms again. what this could signal for the region at large. next. because heart and kidney disease
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breaking news to report now as president trump insists his administration's response to the virus is doing, quote, so well for country, unquote. two major hotspots are preparing for an already bad situation to get worse. in texas, about 50 medical and support staff would head to san antonio as worries point medical personnel could soon be overwhelmed. health officials in miami-dade county say over the past couple days, hospitalizations are up
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88%. ventilator use, up 19%. the problems mirror those in florida as a whole, which has reported more than 40,000 new cases since friday. i want to talk about the rise in infection rates with former health and human services secretary, kathleen. so when you hear the same is now happening in texas, how do you see the situation there and just what's happening across the country right now? >> well, anderson, i think we are in a very dangerous spot. i remember scott gotlieb, former fda commissioner, talked about a slow summer. i wish that's where we were. in the significanx weeks betwee memorial day and fourth of july, we ever seen this virus re-explode across the country. texas and florida, they never really had a big outbreak to begin with. this is really their first wave. we are seeing it in places where people haven't seen the virus,
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and it is totally out of control. and i am really worried about what is going to happen in the nine weeks that lie between the fourth of july and labor day. when we had hoped that children would be able to go back to school. >> you know, "the washington post," josh dawsey, among others, they're declaring victory. don't talk about the virus. and just based on the idea that americans will just grow numb to the escalating death toll. and that, they'll just kind of accept, just like we accept that kids get, you know, shot to death in schools, from time to time. as just one of those things that, you know, gosh, you can't really do anything about. that americans will just accept that, you know, this is just the way life is. we've got this virus and it kills a lot of our old people and -- and, you know, ruins a lot of lives. it seems like a very cynical
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and, frankly, outrageous strategy. >> well, it's a totally outrageous strategy. it, also, is very interesting that it all has to do with the president. it all has to do with his timetable. it has nothing to do with the country. we cannot get the economy back up and running in states across this country, unless we get a handle on the virus. this president has been lying about the virus, from the very beginning. has been slow walking testing. has refused to use the muscle that is unique to the united states government, to mobilize the supplies, the equipment, the personnel, that we need. and now, he's saying very dangerous and deceptive things. he talked, in the 1st of july, about the virus just going away. that's been a theme of his. it's just going to disappear. he now says 99% of the cases are harmless. tell that to the frontline healthcare workers who are seeing icu beds fill up, all
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over this country. tell that to loving members and family members, who are watching their loved ones die, needlessly, in hospitals where they can't even go and greet them. and tell that to parents and grandparents, who are terrified to interact with one another because the president of the united states. he insists on giving it. it's all about his reelection and i can't imagine a worse message for the public. the president refuses to wear masks. he flies in a private airplane. everyone who comes with him inches of him gets tested on a regular basis. but the virus has gotten into the white house, has gotten into his family units. this is a dangerous disease and
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most people don't have the luxury that he does to protect themselves in a little bubble that gets cleaned every day and tested every day. we have to go about our lives. >> yeah. i keep saying he's in a biological bunker yet he is in this bunker protected and he is yelling out of the bunker don't take the same precautions that i'm taking, that i'm making everyone else around me take, it's not real. but he's not coming out of the bunker. secretary sebelius, i appreciate your time, and i wish the news was better, that we could talk about something else. thank you for being with us. >> i do too. always good to be with you. still ahead, broadway actor nick cordero has died after a long battle against the coronavirus. 41 years old. ♪ day trips are better than daydreams. experience the adventure of a bigger world, in a highly capable lexus suv. visit your local lexus dealer, in person or online,
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intentionally ignoring a pandemic and that he is intentionally stoking bigotry and they no longer have to wonder, because he opened his mouth and removed all doubt. tonight we have the mayor of atlanta, keisha lance bottoms, who is dealing with both of these problems in society, what's going on with race, what's going on with covid now in an ever more personal way. she was just diagnosed positive. what does this mean for her and her life? we'll take that on tonight. >> all right, chris, thanks. we'll see you in just about five minutes from now. up next, we remember broadway star nick cordero, who has died of coronavirus. when the world gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. with fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management.
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with the u.s. coronavirus death toll growing, we remember more of the victims. nick cordero was a broadway actor with roles in hit musicals like "bullets over broadway" and "waitress." he came down with the coronavirus in march. his wife, amanda kloots, chronicled his complications on her social media account. she says he was placed into a medically induced coma and had his right leg amputated after developing blood clots. he battled for 95 days. he passed away yesterday. "god has another angel in heaven." his wife posted on her instagram account. he in addition to his wife, he is survived by his son elvis. cordero was just 41 years old. >> richard talamo was a veteran of the vietnam war.
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