- get details on this state program visit right now or call during business hours. hello, everyone. i'm kate balduan. thanks so much for joining us. coronavirus continues to surge in large parts of the country, and that means what's old is new again. hospitals in multiple states are in danger of being stretched beyond their limit. at least seven states are reporting record hospitalizations today. nearly all of them in the south.

the situation is particularly bleak in florida despite the governor there saying the outbreak has stabilize. 43 hospitals in 2 is counties have now hit capacity with zero icu beds available and this is also likely an incomplete picture since the state has yet to release specific covid hospitalization data, data that many other states have been putting out for months. even with the pandemic raging in florida, president trump has announced that he will be heading to the state's hardest hit county miami-dade later this week not to talk about the coronavirus. he said he'll be holding an event on drug trafficking. all this as the overall picture in the united states does not appear to be getting any better. cases are up in 31 states. 15 are holding steady and just four states, all in new york, are trending down. dr. anthony fauci is helping to explain all of this as he did a

new interview. thank you. >> we are still knee deep in the first wave of this, and i would say this would not be considered a wave. it was a surge or a resurgence of infections super imposed a blaine. we went up and never came down to blaine and are not surging back up. it's a serious situation that we have to address immediately. >> let's start with cnn's rosa flores in miami where new restrictions will be going back into effect tomorrow. rows, a, what's the latest where you had? >> reporter: you know, kate, there is a lot of concern, both experts and local officials because of the surge in cases and because of hospitalizations. let's look at at facts statewide. 43 icu hospitals across the straight in 2 is counties are at capacity. that means that there are zero icu beds in these facilities. now, five of those are right

there where i am in miami-dade county. now the county released the number of patients with covid-19 that are hospitalized actively, and so if you look at those numbers in the past 13 days there's been an increase of 90% of the number of covid-19 patients hospitalized right here in montgomery county. icu beds up 86% and number of ventilators are up 127%. let's talk about theums in statewide because the florida department of health just released them today. 7,347 new cases. the positivity rate is key. about a month ago that was around 5%. now it's been closer in the past few days, closer to 14% and 15%. now despite all of this that we're reporting right now, just yesterday the florida education commissioner announcing that

he's issued an emergency order requiring all stores to reopen at heat brick and mortgagean stale five days a week. the commissioner says there is a need to open schools to fully ensure the quality and continuity of the education process. the comprehensive well-being of students and families and a return to florida hitting its full economic stride. now teachers are fighting back including in orange county saying the following. the governor and secretary are pushing a political and economic agenda over the safety and well-being of students, teachers and school employ eds, and while we no face-to-face is optional, cta will not implement a reopening problem that will

exposh teachers and children to danger. the course subjects can be made up. someone's life cannot. >> we'll bring another report to you live later today. interesting to hear how the governor answers the questions. schools is just the hardest, most complicated question in this whole equation of how to get back and how to be safe. >> thanks, rossa, back to you in a little bi. let's go to texas now, number of poem needing military care is jumping and support personnel is being sent to the san antonio area for help. ryan, what is the cases from there? cases -- nearly 200,000 people here have tested positive.

that's nrg stadium. what's no know there are doing shiva test instress of the nostril. one of the reasons we want to do that here is it's hot here in textad and poem are waiting in lines up to six, seven hours to get this test. they say this has been a little bit easier for them. we talked about this before. it's the whole idea of getting people to be tested. what have you guys experienced so far with people first of all in coming here to get tested. what have they been telling you guys? >> i've seen a big lev. just the option to have this type of a test, just a simpler testing method on the patient side. i can really relate to where mashts have gone to. >> reporter: even if you in the

testing process, very frustratesing to through the process? i've been related to these patients. i went two the presses if. we're all in this together and interwas doing my part. i actually feltcism testimonies throw days baiter and got tests again. you come here and you fill it up to about the five mark and they are able to test it over and over again. when you think about the state and think about all the kids who have been involved, 1,300 of them in day caress who have tested positive for covid, you can really follow the impact, so these two folks here have worked together to create this testing center to make it easier. like our boss was telling us earlier, one of the reasons why they like this test so much and

certain people have been bringing their kids here and you can understand kids will most likely spit than have something stuck in their nose. this is all part of the process, something else that has happened. you've got minimum wage workers who are trying to make people wear their mask, and that's something you don't want people to have in terms of coming to a door and seeing that, can. we've seen it over and over again. these two people have been telling them at the testing center at 5:00 of poem are going home. the lines are super long and some people will have to get tested before returning to work so financially they have to get tested, and that is really creating a situation here in this area. a lot of conversation especially with all the military troops coming into san diego. this state needs some help and there's people asking piece. kate? >> getting the test results back in a timely perspective, this is

actually an important point that ryan is hitting on. arizona is joining florida and texas in the same bra jectry and cases can, and as the case numbers jump, you just heard it from ryan, so are concerns once again around the availability of testing in any state, but especially in arizona right now. the mayor of phoenix is speaking out about it that they need help from the federal government. >> my top request is more aid from the federal government or testing. we are only testing the sickest. this weekend i was out at a testing site where people were waiting eight hours to get a test in is so-degree weather. they are sick and watching the face tank goes towards empty, it was a terrible situation. i were love to seat federal government step up and help up. >> people are routinely having

to wait more than a week for results. one person waited 27 days it isolating from his own family to be safe during that to imas he waited only to find out that he tested negative, thankfully negative. joining me right now is the mayor of tuesday op. mayor, thank you. that reporting from the lobel rall. one man waited 27 days to get their test results because. at thy point do you have any kins of getting around voyeurs and surge right now. >> oufrl, what's interesting in -- is a microcosm of the direction that president trump has led us in. there is no coordinated effort for testing in this country, much less here in arizona.

we don't -- we don't have the access to -- to testing from the federal government. we -- we need help. we're in crisis, and so we are seeing the same thing that test results are taking ten days to come back. we can't do contact tracing if the test results don't come back and that's why you see disjoint the, disorganized process because there is no statewide coordinated effort for testing and then contact tracing which is what -- what will -- what will help have this virus under control. the only way to get the virus

under control as we wait for just a second. >> on the issue of testing what are you hearing back from the governor about this need for help. what can't you do? what do you need more of at this point immediately? >> immediately i am absolutely concerned about icu bed capacity here in tucson,s as a. tucson is located in peoplea county which peoplea county has the health department. what we hear from our health department is that days we have five to ten icu beds available. this is a county of is milli1 m people. i've contacted governor ducey's office several times but, unfortunately, i've not received a call back so what concerns me

the most right now is the availability of testing and contact tracing is the icu bed capacity which is at the limit and any day we'll have to be accepting patients to other states because of our lack of capacity. it's very concertain, let me ask you about contact tracing. dr. peter hotez offered a plea bargain assessment of what's happening in your now. >> we've seeinging this inny in and we can't even do could be tact tracing anymore. >> at this point can you not even do contact praising? it. >> people rarp county health department has been in the process of hiring at least 100

to is is a contact tracers for people rarks county. we are, like i said, a coupety of a million people bow i think the concerns from our peoplea county health department is that the cases are rising so quickly and what i ask and what thousands of medical experts and public health experts have asking governor ducey here in arizona is to institute, at least institute, a statewide mandatory mask executive order. they are also asking for a stay-at-home order, but what would help tremendously is a statewide mandatory mask, and so it's the lack of organizing the cities and counties throughout arizona. the patchwork of -- of actions that mayors have taken because the governor has refused to take

additional action. it's concerning and we need the governor and the federal government to come and help organize our efforts so that we can take this under control. >> yeah. just so everyone know, have you ordered required face conversation in your city, but if that is not -- that is not statewide right now and that's what you're talking about. mayor, i fear what our next conversation is going to sound like if things don't change quickly. thank you and good luck. >> thank you so much. >> coming up for us, president trump seems to think defending the confederate flag is his ticket to re-election right now, but not all republicans are in agreement with him. plus, the u.s. government just handed out its biggest contract yet to a company working on a coronavirus vaccine. what does this mean for the global race for a vaccine? ♪all strength ♪we ain't stoppin' believe me♪ ♪go straight till the morning look like we♪ ♪won't wait♪ ♪we're taking everything we wanted♪ ♪we can do it ♪all strength, no sweat

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a president standing alone, increasingly where donald trump is finding himself as he focusesed on defending confederate symbols and refruits to lead by example on wearing masks just as an example in the midst of the pandemic. he's not getting the kind of backup that he once could count on from republicans on capitol hill on these issues. trump's white house aides then left with the task of trying to explain away and thread the needle on the division that the president continues to sow. listen to his press secretary on the president's criticism of nascar for banning the confederate flag, for example. what is the president's position? does they think national car made a mistake by ban being the confederate flag? >> i spoke to him this morning saying he's not making a judgment one way or the other.

the point of the tweet was to stand up for men and women nascar and the fans and a rush to conclusion by the media saying that this was a hate crime when in fact it was not. >> a lot of republicans are privately shaking their head or starting to push back when asked about what the president said. yesterday when he tweeted criticism to ban the confederate flag from its events, first lindsey graham, the senator from south carolina, said that nascar is trying to grow its business. you don't try to grow your business by having -- by allowing the confederate flag be visible. i talked to senator roger wicker who is a mississippi senior senator who is pushing for his state to remove the confederate

emblem which it did for last week after standing more than a century. he told me this saying that the confederate flag is a symbol that more and more represents a day in the past that we don't want to celebrate. he told me the confederate flag, the move by nascar was absolutely the right thing to do. now, this comes as a larger battle is heating up in congress after the president said that he would veto a major defense bill because it has a provision to require the removal of confederate leaders' names from the property. a sizable number of republicans support that provision and are urging the president to back it ultimately when it ultimately comes to his desk so you're seeing here in 2020 this debate over racial injustice in the united states. many republicans don't feel comfortable about the direction that the president is taking. >> joining re right now is the democratic mayor of st. louis, missouri. thanks so much for being here.

as you heard from the white house from kayleigh mcenany. it's clear they are saying that the president didn't mean what he was saying when you can just take him at at his word. what's your opinion of the president continuing to push this racial division at this moment that we're in? >> we're dealing with so much in america right now from covid-19 to protests to the future of policing. i say as the mayor of a city who is in a red state we need somebody who brings us together. sometimes i think of president bush in the los angeles riots in 1992 tried to heal different sides and knowing that there's a time to bring people together and a time to divide. by the way, that was an election year. we really need that sort of leadership from the white house. we're not getting it and it makes my job harder. i think it makes every police officer in america's job harder if we're building more tension but we need to build trust in communities and that's not doing that on the slightest

>> the that's what i wanted to drill down. his words and actions they have an impact and an effect on the tone and tenor and what's happening in this country. what is clear is that the president wants to focus on enflaming racial tension and not focus considering on the coronavirus pandemic. there's no other way to -- no other way you can -- or any other conclusion that you can reach from what you hear from him. if that is where his focus -- he wants his focus to be and where he'll be putting his focus, what does that choice mean for your city? >> it means our job is that much harder. it means that we're -- every time we're putting out a new order about a mask, for example, it becomes a significant political debate. i know i've received a death threat, racial slurs coming my way because the mask itself is so politicized. i know across the line over in kansas the governor of kansas had an editorial put out against her that compared an order to wear masks to the holocaust. i mean, you're seeing more of

that because i think we're getting from leadership some sign that it's okay, and it's incredibly unfortunate and i'm a mayor and proud to be a mayor of democrat and republicans and people who don't care. all we want is for people to be safe and i would love to hear a message in some ways like we heard some months ago when the president actually said for a day or two we have to shut down, we'll have to actually try to get through this together. we need that sort of united message because and if not we're we need to continue to keep people safe. >> "the washington post" had some reporting yesterday that is honestly startling, that i really don't think anyone should look past with regard to the white house's position right now. i'll just read a part of it. white house officials also hope americans will grow numb to the escalating death toll and learn to accept tens of new cases a day, familiar with people

familiar with the white house thinking. americans will, quote, live with the virus being a threat in the words of one of these people, a senior administration official. is that happening in kansas city? people are growing number to the fact that this. what direction are you heading right now with this virus? if you think it's a positive step, it's not. i was afraid as we were seeing reopen palooza starting in georgia and florida, texas, other places that are really negatively impacted now, that that would spread to where we are and we had some of that, but i think as you're seeing spikes, as you're seeing the conservative governor of texas having to shut down more things and the conservative governor of florida, people are seeing it's a real deal and it's important and frankly that we do need to follow some of these rules so i would hope the president stops his bluster and we all get back to at least being able to talk about saving lives. it's one to actually having is

and have president. but there's a whole group of people that are kaying -- not just on the covid issue but policing measures. >> cnn just learning that brazil's president, president bowls naro, his test results have come back and he's tested positive for the coronavirus. 9 leader of brazil. let's get straight to bill weir who is in sao paulo right now with much more. bill? what are you learning? >> yeah, kate. we're actually at the biggest cemetery in latin america. we came out to see the mask graves that have been dug in just the last few weeks as a plot that normally takes a month to fill, two and a half months to fill is filling up in a month

and as the numbers of infections spike, the number of mortalities spike, it was such an ironic stunning twist last night to learn that the president had enough symptoms that he went in to get a lung mri, got the covid test. this is his fourth one that we know of. he took three back when he visited the white house in march. he just announced that he did test positive. he said we knew it would reach the great coverupers of the population and today essentially i have it. it's no surprise he's taking doses of hydroxychloroquine. this, of course, is the malaria drug that trump floated, and when he it that he had the military spock tile millions of dozes, the w.h.o. stopped a trial because it wasn't reducing the mortality rate in patients at a sufficient rate to keep up with the trial, although there was a small study out of sali

berisha that found it did help somewhat, but there's no consequence us a at well that should be used so in this can go a couple of different ways. he can get better and credit the hydroxychloroquine for curing him. he could get worse, who knows, and it might change his attitude, but, kate, what makes this if -- another world heard has dismissed this as april, much ado by nothing. he's taken to use that trump. by some academic estimates the number of cases could be liar than that because there's so few tests here. big cities are starting to open. sao paolo, it's very much on the local states going on the local

mayor and. we saw people elbow to elbow in a shopping district. a lot of masks out not. there's opinion a. now we'll see how he fares now that he actually has that disease. >> kate? >> i must say, it is striking where you are or you're reporting from right now, bill. no question about the seriousness of the disease when you standing in front of. -- he had gone in for a lung scan. one of the things that he had gone in for that kind of prompted this test, and obviously now we know that he has it. >> yeah. we've seen video of him, and it's become somewhat of a -- of

a -- a crowd sourced effort to watch how many videos you can find of president bowls bolsona. the president had lunch on independence day and he and everybody else in that group l have to be. these are all things that he's being warned about. he fired hisfies, his health minister. the second one didn't last a month and now a general is running things rights now, will you, again, i met a grave

dinner. he as i he's never. they are digging in the graves as fast as they can and because there's such a demand, basically your funeral for familiar liltz, and owe it's plmgs pm. so many people are so fascinated to see if the president's diagnosis will hip -- will help in this cause. >> doctor, just your reaction. there's very little we know about -- about the brazilian president's condition. i'm just looking at some notes that were just sent to me. he was hoeg symptoms accident

with covid, will be a temperature of 100 degrees. that's what they had said yesterday but they also say today that his term you are. just your reaction to this diagnosis. >> reporter: well, i think he's certainly who are had a per -- he's advised his country not to talk propugs tuesdays. i don't know his medical history-ins terms. the president in the. went pechet think mope p.toe nofs. it is a bit concerning. >> i was to say he's 65 years old so high disc find of pat

let's or understanding the between probably age. he may well -- some people with no known risks, of course, don't do well. we obviously wish him well. i hope that this will mean something to him personally in terms of how he projects what is the best thing to do to prevent others getting what he sounds like he's developed, so i hope that there will be a good public health consequence of this. >> yeah, i think that is a very -- when you pose is very important god ford. what the president polsanaro says when he speak, about the

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this morning a big announcement in the government's quest to find a coronavirus vaccine. committing this morning more than $1 billion to the company novavax and its trials under way for a coronavirus vaccine. this is the largest federal contract yet given for a vaccine. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins me now with the details. elizabeth, what do we know about the vaccine candidate? >> reporter: you know, one thing that we know about it, kate, is that it's different. it works differently than the three that have gotten federal funding for large-scale trials from the federal government. that's good. you want to have as much variety as you can get because some of these might not work and you might want to increase your shots on goal, so to speak. right now novavax is studying this and i asked the ceo of the company when will you move on to the large 30,000-person

large-scale clinical trials? >> i think in the fourth quarter. we don't have a date set yet but hopefully in early as the fourth quarter as possible. maybe if we're lucky we can start phase three in the late third quarter. >> reporter: now the ceo, he told me that he thinks they could have their vaccine on market by the first quarter of next year. kate? >> and the epa also just approved two disinfectant products that kill covid on surfaces. what does that mean? >> reporter: so these two products are both by lysol and it says it kills it on non-porous surfaces. it doesn't mean other products don't. there's lots of good products  out there. they have applied to the fda or told the fda what their products can do, but these two have the official epa stamp of approval that it will kill the virus. >> elizabeth, thanks so much. appreciate it. we also have this just into cnn. the much-awaited tell-all book

from president trump's niece, mary will hit book stores and the trump administration blocked the copies but let me bring in sara sidner. what did do you know about this? >> reporter: it's a 13-chapter read but an indictment of president trump from a member of his family. we haven't heard a lot from the members of the trump family. this is coming from mary trump who is his niece and a book that one of the president's siblings has actually tried to block from publishing but the publisher got the release to go forward. we're looking through some of these things and in it you see mary trump writing about the hubris of her uncle. she writes about how she didn't actually think that he was taking his presidential election seriously, and she even had lunch at one point with mary anne trump, who was a federal

trump, and they are discussing donald trump running for president. this is back in 2016, and it recounts the conversation in which mary anne trump says he's a clown. this is what the book says. he's a cloupt, my aunt marry anne said at one his lunches at the time. this will not happen. mary anne trump has had a fraught history with many of her family. there was a big deal after the patriarch after mary trump and her brother were being cut out of the will. she was no fan of her uncle winning the presidency. she says she got invited to donald trump's election night party and turned down the invitation because she shout it would be rude if she was out there celebrating hillary clinton's victory. that's not how it panned out. she writes in the book that she stayed silent for a long time when donald trump won the presidency and when he's been in office, but she just felt like

she was sitting by and watching her uncle ruin the country and writes in her book that she could not stand by and be silent any longer. now there's a reason that this book is coming from simon shuster and you're not seeing mary trump on television doing a bunch of interviews because as of right now there's a temporary restraining order against her not allowing her to talk about her own book. the restraining order order against the publisher was lifted and that's why we're seeing the copies come out there. >> october question in everyone's mind is how much detail does she go into her relationship with donald trump but also why she is writing -- why she's writing this book. what she wants to come out of it? >> right, of course, we're still a team and cnn is just reading through it because we just got our hands on this morning and it is, it's a quick read but hard for one person to digest all at once. i think there are a couple of things going on here. one, there's certainly bad blood within the ranks of the trump

family as there was with this lawsuit to years ago, this litigation that happened over the will of fred trump. you know, the other thing is she writes in her book that she's really offended by the way that president trump invoked her father's memory. her father was named fred trump, and he died, and he suffered are alcoholism, and she said she watched the way donald trump used her father's story to relate to people who are dealing with the opioid crisis, and she just felt that her father's memory was being used for political purposes. she writes in the book that mary anne trump barry, again, the former federal judge, also agreed with that and was also agreed with that assessment and she makes it very clear she did not want donald trump to win the presidency, an avid hillary clinton supporter and she was sad she stayed silent long enough and has watched the things a have happened throughout her uncle's presidency and had to come forward and speak up. this may be the first time we're

seeing her put her face and name to these words, but we have heard from her without realizing before, you know, she writes in her book and confirms that she was a source for that big "new york times" investigation into the trump family taxes that really sort of allege that a lot of what they were doing was not up to par and that they, you know, may have misstated things in their finances over the years and may have even committed fraud. it's interesting because now her lawyers are using that as a reap she should not be silenced. they are saying, look, this settlement agreement she signed years ago was all based on fraudulent dealings. >> stay with me. thanks for bringing that to us. now let me bring in brian stelter. the publishing date was moved up. >> that's why the copies are being looked out. this book is essentially an anti-trump campaign book, kate,

from my initial read of it. joe biden couldn't have written a more effective book against the president of the united states, but you say that, you know. i say that. i say it's like an anti-trump campaign book but it's coming from inside the family. there's never been anything like this in modern political history to have the niece of a president write a scathing tell-all. let me read a couple of parts that stand out to me from the very end of the book talking about the president's cruelty. saying the cruelty is the point which is a quote from "the atlantic" writer adam sze erwar. it's meant to distract the rest of us from himself. and she said we must dispense with the idea of donald being a strategically person, understanding media and politics. he doesn't have a strategy, mary says. he never has. she said it was a fluke he won the election. she says she never thought he was going to win and he takes these rebuicks and challenges and doubles down on his behavior

because of these problems in his family that she describes in detail as sara just mentioned. at the end of the book, kate, what you hear from mary trump, is you know, it's a lifetime of failures by the president of the united states. she says the lies may become true in his mind as soon as he utters them, but they are still lies. it's just another way for him to see what he can get away it, and so far he's gotten away with everything. this is the ultimate disappointed relative, you know. you think about any family drama. you times it by a thousand, and that's what you get with this book by mary trump. >> but you hit on it. we'll continue to go through, of course, and everyone will read the quotes and we'll, of course, wait to hear how the president does and all of that but just to sit for a second and absorb the fact that this is a skating rebuke hitting at all of the major sensitivity points that we

know of from donald trump and it's coming from his own family. >> it's sad. >> coming from his niece is how he's a clown as how he's described and as you say failures and the fact he didn't have a strategy and a fluke, it is somebody. >> the reason i say sad. page 202 t.donald continues to exist in the dark space between the fear of indifference and the fear of failure that led to his brother's destruction. she goes on to say that every time you hear donald talking about how something is the greatest, the best, the biggest, the most tremendous, you have to remember that the man speaking is still in essential ways the same little boy who was desperately worried that he, like his older brother, is inadequate and that he, too, will be destroyed for his ined asy. his bragging and false bravado is not directed at the audience in front of him but his audience of up, his long death father.

>> wow. >> mary trump is saying it all comes back to that relationship. but to see it about the president in a book is astonishing. >> so many people in conversation about what the president is doing and why say, i can't get into the president's head. from what you just read to me it sounds like the president's niece may be trying to do exactly that in this book. brian, thank you. sara and the whole team reading through, thank you. still ahead for us, president trump is demanding that schools reopen in the fall. i'm going to talk to a superintendent of dallas, texas, schools about what that could look like and can they do it when you know what is going on in texas and the coronavirus surge? we'll be right back. 100% online wouldn't work. but we went to work. building an experience that lets you shop

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have to make that happen and responsible for the health and safety of students, teachers and staff? joining me is michael hinojosa of the dallas independent school district. thank you so much for coming in and so much has happened since we spoke two months ago. you were talking about all of the plans that you were putting into place with the anticipation of trying to reopen. where do the plans stand now, michael? >> they have shifted significantly. two weeks ago we surveyed the parents and 20% said they did not feel comfortable sending the kids to school. that shifted to 50% and i bet if we surveyed them again that will be up to 75% who do not want to come to a school building. >> wow. >> you cannot legislate behavior but obviously that's how the parents are feeling right now. >> that is an important --

that's an important litmus of what your plans will look like. what are you waiting for to make a decision? you need to hear from the governor but i've also -- we are hearing -- cnn is reporting that the cdc is planning on putting out more guidance about safe school reopening. are you looking for that? would that be helpful in making this decision about what school will look like? >> therein lies the problem. we have mixed messages from the fed, state and local officials. we are going to have a social distancing, masks, face shields, plexiglass in the classrooms and told we won't get funding for at-home learning unless we have a building open physically like you have reported in this hour of what florida is requiring to have bricks and mortar so we are still waiting for that. our parents are frustrated and the board because we can't make a decision and getting mixed messages as we go along. we have to make a decision and move forward with it.

>> this is -- school is last i saw schools set to be opening mid-august. it is time to start making some plans for you, for staff, for families, for everyone. the governor has completely reversed course on when it comes to wearing a mask in the state of texas. what do you think that means for schools? first it was not having masks in schools. you always said you plan on people wearing masks in the schools. what would that look like? >> i think that's a hopeful change. you have to respond to the data and i do applaud the governor for making a pivot once the data is clear and there is no way to school safely without the protocols and don't need to be second guessed with the safety measures and then someone says you can't do it that way or for funding you have to do it some other way. we need direction because the families are impatient. we need to get the schools open only if the families and the

teachers and the staff feel safe to safely operate a school in that environment. >> look. you have hit the most important part about it. if you survey families and they come back and they say 50% of them comfortable having the kids in the classroom it doesn't matter what the governor or president says. if you open a school and no one's showing up you need to figure out a way to teach those kids. >> precisely. that's why we have to have options and need some funding flexibility. we can have parameters but you got to give local governments some flexibility how you implement the parameters and if we are given that we think we can pull it off safely and some kind of virtual format and in-person format. >> you have been thoughtful about this all along and i hope the officials are listening to you on this in needing flexibility to get kids in the classroom if it's possible but get them learning at the very least again starting next month.

thank you very much. >> thank you very much. thank you for having me. it is the top of the hour. i'm kate bolduan. we have a lot of breaking news to get to. we want to start in brazil, the country's president has tested positive we just learned in the last hour for coronavirus. this diagnosis, of course, comes after months of bolsonaro dismissing and mocking really the seriousness of the crisis calling it like a little flu like president trump has done coming to covid-19. cnn's bill weir is following all of this from sao paulo. bill, what more are you hearing? >> reporter: well, we are hearing more of the president's words after he broke news in a little press gaggle in front of the palace. he did give an interview to cnn brazil and he talked about