their memories be a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." you can follow me on twitter and instagram. you can tweet the show. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. ♪ outfront next, u.s. closing in on 3 million cases, the virus far from under control as the president in a new interview blames dr. anthony fauci. plus trump's niece's book. she accusing the president of paying a friend to take the s.a.t.'s, his own sister calls him a clown with no principles. and richard quest on the symptoms he's still experiencing nearly 3 months after he had coronavirus. let's go outfront. and good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, spiraling out of control, the nation on the cusp of 3 million coronavirus cases. the president refusing to take

responsibility, tonight blaming dr. anthony fauci, the the nation's top infectious disease doctor came out and said point blank that the united states of america is still, quote, knee deep in the first wave of the pandemic while the president of the united states is saying this. >> i think we are in a good place. i disagree with him. you know, dr. fauci said don't wear masks and now he says wear them. he said numerous things. don't close off china. don't ban china. i did it anyway. i sort of didn't listen to my experts and i banned china. we would have been in much worse shape. >> okay. so, now he's blaming dr. fauci. look, the reality is that we're not in a good place. i don't think there's anybody that could make that argument right now. you've got nearly 3 million americans infected with the virus, cases surging, 130,000 americans dead. the president's own model forecasts less than half of that just a couple of months ago. dr. fauci has explained by americans weren't initially advised to wear masks.

at the time they were talking about n95, there was concern there weren't enough for health care workers and there weren't. fauci corrected course and told americans to wear masks. but the president of the united states does not do that. >> i think wearing a face mask as i greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, i don't know, somehow i don't see it for myself. >> i want to protect myself and protect others and also because i want to make it be a symbol for people to see that that's the kind of thing you should be doing. >> all right. so, the president doesn't care about that symbol and he doesn't do it. what about that claim about closing off travel to china? to state the painfully obvious, that did not save this country from the pandemic. we are five months after this and the people infected continues to rise in the united states at a rapid pace. particularly now in the state of

florida. the president is planning to travel there later this week. that state quickly becoming the epicenter of the pandemic in the united states. yesterday hitting a record high positivity rate on newest thes. you want that rate to be below 5%. right now it's 16.3%. that's where the president is headed, for the state, it's 16.3. in the county of miami-dade, 26% on sunday. to give you a comparison, new york city, we saw rates of that early on. but now the positivity rate here in new york is 2%. actions speak. and president trump's actions do show a lack of care. his visit to florida will divert emergency resources from floridians but he's going to go anyway. and perhaps maybe if not for floridians he would care about his own staffers, but his actions there speak loudly as well. his past two trips left his own staffers sick with the virus, still going to florida anyway, still moving ahead with that trip as well as to a trip to new hampshire on saturday. >> we've been traveling all

around the country. we'll be in new hampshire on saturday and we believe we can do so safely. [ inaudible question ] we've travelled. we've done so safely and we'll continue do to it. >> to be clear, more than a dozen secret service agents and at least two campaign staffers tested positive for the virus after working on the president's last trips to tulsa and phoenix. more for quarantined, a number had symptoms. herman cain tested positive days after attending the rally in tulsa. he's still in the hospital. president trump's son's girlfriend, kimberly guilfoyle tested positive over the holiday. so, it's not just that the president is careless with the lives of the people around him, it is that he is careless or worse in the message he is sending the world. he tweeted today, quote, we have the lowest mortality rate in the world. that is just false. it's not accurate. it is not the lowest. when you look at the 20 countries most affected by the virus, at least 14 have lower

death rates than the death rate in the united states of america. trump also ignores the fact that the u.s. total death toll is more than double the next highest country, brazil, where the president just tested positive for coronavirus after insisting on holding rallies. trump is not telling the truth on the death rate and his dishonesty on this is giving the public a false sense of security, something that could be deadly for some and something dr. fauci says is not okay. >> it's a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death. there's so many other things that are very dangerous and bad about this virus. don't get yourself into false complacency. >> and of course as we see younger people infected and going into the icus, that death rate will change. erica hill is outfront in new york. among these other things, overwhelmed hospitals which are once again something we did not think we would see again after new york, we're now seeing again

in several states. >> absolutely, erin. there is a concern in a number of states, texas, florida, arizona, even parts of california, concern that those hospitals could become overwhelmed because the number of cases is spiking. in fact, just a reminder, 24 states have now paused or rolled back their reopening as cases continue to rise. >> cases surging in the sunshine state. more than 7,300 reported on tuesday. 43 hospitals in florida report their icu beds are now at capacity. nearly 3 dozen more are close. if the governor is pushing forward with plans to open schools next month, touting his state's efforts to prepare for the long haul. >> the whole point of the curve, flattening the curve, was to make sure we had enough health care capacity. we're in a way better position today to be able to do that. >> yet 43 hospitals in florida report their icu beds are at capacity. dozens more are close. restaurants in miami-dade county

told to pull back as hospitalizations there surge. and that curve the governor mentioned looking more like a steep cliff. it's not just florida. arizona now has the highest number of cases per capita in the country. >> in arizona, the cases are rising so rapidly that we cannot even do contact tracing. the epidemic is out of control in the southern part of the united states. >> tex exjust reported more than 10,000 new cases, its highest single day increase. houston's mayor urging the republican party to cancel the rally in his city scheduled for july 16th. >> i believe cancelling the in-person convention is the responsible action to take. >> the texas gop still planning to hold the event t, adding a mask requirement. the texas state fair cancelled for the first time since world war ii. the governor saying he allowed bars to reopen too soon.

>> you have to wonder if they should have been allowed to open at all because bars really aren't made in a way that promoting social distancing. >> california state capitol closed after five assembly members tested positive. a new study finds so-called silent spreaders may account for as many as half of all cases. >> even the states that are doing it well right now should be on guard because they could be next. >> reporter: something else to note, erin, that remains a major concern is testing. two of the country's largest labs are seeing a longer turn around time because there has been such an increase in demand. we've seen lines at testing sites. and the department of health and human services today announcing its adding three new testing sites in the hotspots of jacksonville, florida, baton rouge, louisiana. >> thank you very much. dr. jonathan reiner, card

cardiologist. you heard the president blaming dr. fauci and trying to find fault with him. what do you say to that? >> dr. fauci is the only person in this administration that seems to speak the truth. and to tell the seriousness of this pandemic and also to point a path forward. i listen to dr. fauci because he tells it like it is. and the way it is is a roaring pandemic affecting large parts of the country now, particularly the south and southwest. parts of the country still remain relatively stable. the northeast and midwest seem to be stable and doing well. but what dr. fauci says is painfully honest. everyone needs to wear a mask. we need to continue to test. we need to put the fires out. there is -- this is not going to

go away by itself, and only when we have leaders like dr. fauci and we listen to them do we have a chance of limiting the carnage. >> and the president point blank said, i disagree with dr. fauci, and the president says, i think we're in a good place. dr. fauci says, we are knee deep in the first wave. what do you think? it's pretty incredible we have these two opposing views. >> i think the president is right. we're not knee deep. we're hip deep, and if we don't do something dramatically, we'll soon be neck deep. you know, if you think that one out of every three persons who gets the coronavirus in the world is an american today and only 4% of the world, how can anyone in their right mind think that we're in good shape? >> i mean, dr. reiner, the president then continued not just to say that he disagrees, we're in a blood place.

he disagrees, i think we're in a good place. he then says we've done it right. now it's time to be open and stay open and put the fires out as they come up. that's a quote from the president of the united states. is that what they are? orange and red across the country when we look at cases, these are just fires? >> well, the -- it's an inferno in some parts of this country. and, look, the president has been trying to make this go away with magical thinking for a long time. he's -- he was desperate to open the country in april, and his urgency to open the country is really one of the prime reasons we are where we are now. states throughout the south and southwest opened while cases were not just not declining adequately but were rising. so, the president is really panicking and is so anxious for this to sort of go away to go

back to normal that he parrots this really fantasy world. the truth is we have a lot of hard work to do. we can do this. we absolutely can do this. and the governors are starting to get it. when you start to see governors like dewine now call for mandatory masks in certain counties, we've seen that in texas. and when we start to see governors shut down areas where the virus is out of control, then we'll really start to see governors taking control. that's where we need to look for leadership now, at the gubernatorial level, not at the federal level. we're not getting it from washington and we simply won't. the president can't do this and run for re-election at the same time. it's an ir resolvable conflict of interest. >> dr. brilliant, the white house says they've travelled safely. they point to these places where you have the secret service agents and advanced staff who contracted coronavirus, the president's son's girlfriend

contracted coronavirus, but herman cain at that tulsa rally. he's in the hospital still. so, you know, these aren't just young people who aren't getting sick. it was somebody in the hospital for days. is it wise for the president and all these people to travel to go to florida which has a positivity rate, the county he's going to, of 26% right now? >> i'm really worried about florida. i'm looking at miami and also looking at houston. and you're looking at places that don't have any excess capacity in their isolation wards, in their intensive care wards. i've watched and you've watched, the whole world has watched these doctors in houston and miami say that they get eight or nine, ten people coming to them who should be in an intensive care ward and they've got one or two beds. they have to choose which one is going to have rationed a bed. what happens to those who can't get into the hospital? who are they? sooner or later, they will wind up someplace and it won't go well for them.

to think that you can go there, parade in florida, without a mask and signal to people that it's okay for them to go out and get exposed is irresponsible. it's not the kind of leadership that we want or we need to have in order to extricate ourselves. remember dr. reiner, we can get out of this. we have the tools to do it. but we have to be serious. >> all right. i appreciate both of your time very much. remind anyone watching last night we had the icu director for the largest system in miami saying they're seeing younger patients and younger patients in the icu, they're dying too. thank you both very much. next president trump putting the squeeze on schools to open in weeks no matter what. the president of the national education association is my guest. plus trump's niece calls him a sociopath, a tell all book the white house was trying to block. and a tornado with a tail, how

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the fall despite the coronavirus pandemic. >> we're very much going to put pressure on governors and everybody else to open the schools to get them open, and it's very important. it's very important for our country. it's very important for the well-being of the student and the parents. so, we're going to be putting a lot of pressure on open your schools in the fall. >> outfront now, the president of the national education association, lily garcia, more than 3 million members. and of course i should note the union has endorsed joe biden for president. i appreciate your time. president trump says he wants schools to be reopened. i know you've said plans to reopen schools right now, your words are quote, an emergency, all hands on deck situation. you've used the word panicked and worried to describe teachers. parents also should be panicked. i am a parent. i'm panicked. i want my kids back in school.

what's going to happen? >> here's what my advice to all parents including you is, please under no circumstances take medical advise from donald trump or betsy devos especially when it comes to the health of your children. i have 39 sixth graders one year in my tiny classroom with one window. that was not healthy before the pandemic. and what i hear the president of the united states saying is just open the doors, crowd those kids back in there. my classroom was a germ factory. i knew that i was going to catch someone's cold every year. this is different. this is a virus that kills people. and donald trump and betsy devos are making a mockery of the danger that they would be in if you rush to this, if you do it wrong. there is no infectious disease expert, and that includes those pa pediatricians that said you have to consider the mental health of children. of course we do. but they didn't say at the expense of the physical health

and they didn't say that you should do it under all circumstances. they said when it's safe and where it's safe. it's just absolutely mind boggling to me to have donald trump have this press conference, this publicity stunt about saying i'm going to use my bully pulpit -- and he does mean bully -- to pressure people to do something before it's safe. >> so, joseph allen -- and i know obviously you've read his op-ed as well, right? he's a harvard professor on exposure assessment science. he wrote an op-ed, the title was "yes, kids should be going back to school in the fall." he said something i wanted to give you a chance to respond. he said whether we open schools determines our risk tolerance as societies. what will we accept as schools? zero cases? that will require shutting schools another year. the cost of that approach are too great. what do you say to that?

that's a top harvard scientist saying kids should go back, it wasn't donald trump. >> so, listen very carefully because you can read a lot into this. here's what i am saying. they're giving us a false choice. basically they're saying here's an unsafe school, and i'm telling you 39 kids in a class during a pandemic with no hand sanitizer, with no ventilation. this is a recipe for someone being hurt, someone dying. and they're saying should we open schools unsafely or keep those unsafe schools closed? why aren't we talking about what we would have to do to open schools safely? and what i'm talking about is there are ways you can distance kids, and it's not easy. it's complicated. we do need the ppe, the masks and the sanitation. but no one -- no one -- is

talking about did you hear donald trump say and here's what i'm going to give them. here are the resources that will help make this possible to do it safely? no. in fact, quite the opposite. it's like don't even talk about creative ways to space kids throughout the day. nope, they all get in there. and to say that it's some politics that people are playing is so insulting. to say that teachers or joe biden has some need to hurt kids. what we're asking for is the same consideration they gave shake shack. you know, when a business was looking at laying off workers, when a business was saying how do we keep our business open, republicans and democrats say kumbaya and threw money at it. why isn't anyone talking about the resources that we're going to need to open schools safely,

especially when our funding source ju source, just running a public school, our tax -- >> so, when dr. fauci says -- i quote dr. fauci. he says it's very important to get children back to school for the unintended negative consequences that occur when we keep them out of school. he continued to say i feel strongly we need to do what we can to get the children back to school. it sounds like you're agreeing but saying we need resources. do you feel it's crucial to get kids back in school? when we see the numbers of who logged in and who didn't on online learning, it was the kids who were the poorest who didn't, right? and they may never catch up. these could be long-term societal implications if these kids don't get back in school. >> yeah. please understand there's no one who wants their kids back in that building more than their teachers. but we know we can do it safely. and that's what we're hearing

constric crickets when it's like and here's what we need for ppe, for distancing. by the way, terahhey're talking about laying off a million teachers. they don't have money to pay them. there's going to be 40 kids in a classroom. here's what i know, parents, democratic parents, republican parents, socialist parents, they want their kids back in school just like teachers do. we know we can do it safe. why isn't the president of the united states, why isn't betsy devos saying here's what we're going to do to make sure schools have what they need to open up safely? it's almost like he wants chaos. it's almost like he wants it to be done in an unsafe way. >> i really appreciate your time. thank you very much. and next, trump's niece ripping into him. she calls the president a sociopath. she says he cheated on his

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tonight president trump's niece calling him a, quote, sociopath who practicing cheating as a way of life. she writes this in a tell all book where she says donald following the lead of my grandfather and the inaction of his siblings destroyed by father. i can't let him destroy my country. david k. johnson who has covered donald trump more than 30 years. it's good to see you, david. and sara has read the book. so, sara, let me start with you. you've been through it. this is a rare look from a member of the trump family. what does she say about the family dynamic and donald trump? >> it is an interesting look from someone who is beyond the family that we're used to seeing in the white house. and she describes, erin, extremely dysfunctional family environment. fred trump, donald trump trump's father, her grandfather, she

describes someone who created a toxic environment that affected the rest of the family and made donald trump the person he is today. she sort of says that donald trump became the golden boy in the family, took on a lot of his father's worst qualities and that others in the family were sort of neglected or bullied. and she points to her father as an example of that. her father was fred trump, jr., who struggled with alcoholism throughout his life and has sense passed away. that's what she's referring to when she talks about how donald trump destroyed her father. she feels like the way the family treated him, a man who didn't want to go in the family business, had a lot to do with how her father struggled throughout her life. >> she claims trump paid someone to take the s.a.t. to get him into the university of pennsylvania. she writes he enlisted joe shapiro, a smart kid to take his s.a.t.s for him. donald who never lacked for funds paid his buddy well. he went to ford ham university

before transferring to pennsylvania. he claims he was a top student, best of the best. what do you make of this, david? >> the story makes perfect sense. first of all, back in the 196 # os, it was easy to have someone go and take your test for you. there weren't ids and the checks we have today because of the kind of cheating. the idea that a rich boy paid someone else to take the test to people of my generation is no surprise. trump claims he was a great student, yet one of his former professor described him as the blank blank dumbest student he's ever had but thinks he knows everything. there were no honors for trump at fordham or penn. >> there's a lot of detail in this book and she also says that trump's sister, her aunt, who is

a federal judge in new jersey, an accomplished professional, that his sister called him a clown when he announced his run for president. she was shocked to see evangelicals supporting him. mary writes, maryann, a devout catholic was ensensed. what the f is wrong with them, she said. the only time donald went to church was when the cameras were there. it's mind boggling. he has no principles, none. the detail in here is, you know, pretty excruciating. >> it is. it's really incredible because it does give you a look at donald trump from a different perspective. and this is part of the reason i think that the president didn't want this book to see the light of day because you see embarrassing anecdotes throughout this book whether it is the fact his own sister is trash talking him to his niece, whether it's this allegation he paid someone else to take his s.a.t.s for him because he knew he wasn't start enough, even the notion it was his sister doing his homework for him. the overall portrait of the family is extremely unflattering

and obviously donald trump comes across, i think the worst of anyone in this, perhaps second only to the patriarch of the family, fred trump. >> you know, it is fascinating to look at that. whatever you think about donald trump, the man is not like others. so, it came from somewhere. and i think everybody is looking for color on how he became who he is. mary trump also writes about her father's death, donald trump's brother, and she says, quote, the ambulance took my father to the queens hospital center in jamaica. no one went with him. the doctors think freddy probably won't make it, linda, donald told my mother. would it be okay if i come to the house. she didn't want to be alone. when my mother arrived, my grandparents were sitting alone by the phone. donald and elizabeth had gone to the movies. that's a pretty stunning allegation, david. >> entirely consistent with everything that i know about donald. he has no empathy or connection

to other people, and he would want to run away from situation like this just as he had the coronavirus and the intelligence on bounties or killing american troops. and remember, this book is written by a woman who has a doctorate in clinical psychology, so she both knows the family intimately as one of the people who were in it. and all families are complicated. but she knows the family well, and she had professional training to tell us what's significant about it. everything i've heard from the book, i won't have a copy until tomorrow. everything i've heard about the book is consistent with what i've known about him and what others have written about him as well. >> the white house released a statement saying mary trump and her book's publisher may claim to be acting in the public's interest but this is in the

author's self-interest. the president describes the relationship he had with his father as warm. he said his father was very good to him. he said his father was loving and not hard on him. also the absurd s.a.t. allegation is false. i have to say, sara, that is where you have to smile that clearly the president is involved in that, he had to take on that s.a.t. allegation. >> absolutely. there are a lot of things that mary trump put in this book that are going to just dig right under the president's skin. that is why the president didn't want this book out. granted it was his brother who went to court to try to block its release unsuccessfully, but the president made clear he did not want it to see the light of day. it's the things like that that tend to really irritate him. >> thank you both very much. we should say, mary trump, as david mentioned, has a doctorate in clinical psychology. outfront next, the unexpected toll of coronavirus. our own richard quest says three months after he got it, he is not the same. there have been changes. i'm going to talk to him next.

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breaking news, a study just released finds an increase in stroke, delirium, rare brain inflammation, and other neurological issues connected to coronavirus. we are still learning more about this virus every single day including the very real and scare reality that many people are experiencing lingering symptoms and we have no idea for how long they will last. one of them is my colleague richard quest, my friend richard quest, who contracted the virus is april and still feels its effects nearly three months later. richard is with me now. it has been nearly three months. i know when you went through it you were experiencing the newness of it every day. and now three months later, you still have symptoms? >> yeah. they come and they go. and that's the awful part in a sense. my virus back in april was on the mild side. i thought that's it, all done. and then a few weeks later, that covid cough, that raspy cough, it doesn't cough up anything.

it just sort of right in the throat and the upper chest. that came back. then it went away again. and then last week, it came back again. and this time it really came back for several days. and the fatigue came back. i had to lie down on the sofa after i finished work. i'm not saying, erin, that any of this is debilitating to the point where i can't work, but when the closeness started and there were questions of neurological issues. suddenly i was falling in the streets, dropping a bowl of sugar because when i went to get it, i missed it. these minor little thing which we're now starting to learn are evidence of deeper damage as a result of blood clots, possibly, that's going to require more investigation. and i'm not alone. since i wrote the article, many people have said, hang on, i too have lingering symptoms of coronavirus. >> i mean, i know you described

those things as minor, but they're not. and they're scary. they're scary, richard. i'm sure that you feel that. i mean, you talk about the clumsiness when you say reaching for the sugar and missing the distance or tripping over something right in front of you. you also have talked about digestive changes. what has that been like? >> oh, oh! so, during -- when i actually had the virus -- i'm one of these people who can go hours without eating. hours. but when i had the virus, if i didn't eat every few hour, i would get this most incredible craving. it literally had to stop what i was doing and eat. and then now i have terrible digestion problems, indigestion, the sort of things you don't talk about in polite company, all of which an entire range of symptoms. again, none of them are so bad that they stop me going about my daily life, but all of them, erin, create a real unease about what's really going on inside my

body. >> i'm sure, richard. so, i know you've been going to the doctor eregularly. when you discuss this with them, all these unknown things, neurological issues too, do they have any idea of whether it will go away or whether it's permanent or what do they tell you? >> so, what they say is we recognize something of what's going on. but, quote, we don't know, unquote. this virus is only been around since january that we know of. they're still learning exactly its full ramifications. that's the point to make tonight, erin, to those who are looking and thought like i did. i got the flu. it'll be fine. no, no, no. you do not know what the long-term damage can and will be. if the price of this is a mask and the price of this is social distancing -- and i did all of it, by the way. i followed the rules as best i could -- then you're left saying i sat in a doctor's office this

morning doing tests to find the extremities, if you like, of what might be the damage. and now i've got a load of other tests, mris, mrvs and the like that have to be done. not because i'm incapable or disabled or whatever, but simply because they need to know just what is likely to be the damage from this virus, the tornado with the long tail. >> richard, thank you for sharing. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. and next, companies associated with jared kushner's family businesses, conservative media, congressman devin nunez, just a few who benefitted from government loans meant to help small business who is had no other means of survival. and a world leader and coronavirus denier who refused to wear a mask now testing positive for coronavirus. wonder if he listened to what richard quest just had to say. wayfair has way more ways to renovate your home,

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new tonight, a big pay day for president trump's inner circle, giving millions of dollars in taxpayer money for small business pay outs. >> nonetheless, we're processing loans at a pace never achieved before. >> trump's friends, business partners, and family members grabbing cash, receiving millions in potentially forgivable loans as part of the paycheck protection program, intended to help small businesses keep employees on jobs that have also been saved incredible. >> the long awaited data just released by the white house revealing that among the struggling small businesses like gyms and hair salons, the politically well connected, the powerful and those with close links to trump benefitted greatly. companies associated with jared kushner's family businesses received several loans totaling at least $8 million. backed by the president's son don junior received at least 150,000. >> one right over here.

stand up, albert. where the hell are you, albert? >> trump's dentist and golf partner, 150,000. >> he's a good golfer but i'm better than him, right? >> conservative website news max got up to $5 million. the data caller co-founded by fox news tucker carlson up to 1 million. the law firm which helped trump in the russia investigation received between 5 and 10 million, a trucking company founded by trump's agriculture secretary sunny purdue received over 150,000. the family business of transportation secretary eileen chow and wife of senate majority leader mitch mcconnell received over 350,000 and two wineries that republican congressman devin nunes co-owns received $1 million each. $520 billion was given out to more than 4.8 million small businesses. among those, 273 million dollars

in loans went to more than 100 companies owned or operated by major donors to trump's election efforts. it wasn't just those close to trump. among them a firm linked to nancy pelosi's his and the consulting group. it's important to point out here there is no indication whatsoever that any of these companies did anything wrong or received any sort of special treatment. and while certainly interesting they of course only represent a very, very small portion of the 5 malcoillion company, erin, wh received these loans. >> thank you. next, the president of brazil has been mocking coronavirus for months. today he tested positive. bill wier is there on the ground and he's "outfront" next. at a price built for everyone. with $700 off our best phones when you switch. because everyone deserves the best.

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. tonight, brazil's president

posting a video of himself taking hydroxychloroquine after testing positive for coronavirus. of course, bill wier is "outfro "outfront" with this report. >> after months at sneering at a little flu and wading in the crowds of unmasked fans, he said he has covid-19 but there was no sign of a president humbled. i'm feeling very well he said and gave much of the credit to two doses of hydroxychloroquine, the controversial anti malaria drug first pushed by donald trump and then stockpiled by bolsonaro but unproven as a treatment for covid-19 and insisted the millions he's urging back to work can still feel invincible. >> translator: younger people take care but if you are affected by the virus, rest assured for you the possibility of something more serious is close to zero.

>> when you were health minister, did you try to warn him, try to get him out of the crowds for his own health. >> everybody did. not only the health minister, all the other minister, we all advised him. >> this doctor was brazil's health minister until bolsonaro fired him for trying to get the nation to stay distant or stay home. but instead of the virus converting the president to science, he worries it will only amplify a message of more malaria pills and less quarantines. >> he stands for it and makes a political stand for well, i had the disease. look at me. i'm okay. i'm a super hero. i took this medicine. i really did well. i used to do this also. his message could be a disaster. >> meanwhile, the largest cemetery in latin america is not large enough these days. and in his 25 years digging, he

has never seen fresh graves fill up so fast. >> translator: there were four covid families here this morning and were shocked. everyone is the same, ten minutes max, no wake, no way to look in the coffin because it is the last greeting they will ever give to the loved one they lost and there is no time for a ceremony. he told me they dug 8,000 fresh graves in this one cemetery. the numbers out today, 45,000 new confirmed cases and about 1250 deaths. that's twice the amount of the day before and keep in mind, academics at different universities around brazil believe those numbers could be low by a factor of ten. >> wow. by a factor of ten. well, of course, you hope for president bolsonaro not to have complications and not experiencing what richard quest

is experiencing after a mild case. appreciate your time. thanks for joining us. ""ac 360" starts noac 360" star. good evening. we're in a good place with this pandemic. a good place. we've done a good job. how does that sound to you? does that sound like reality that we're in a good place? because those are the words the president of the united states today even as the numbers and his own experts, scientists with decades of experience say otherwise. the president says we are in a good place with the pandemic. those are his actual words. i didn't actually believe it when i first heard it but it's on tape. he was asked about dr. anthony fauci's assessment the country is knee-deep in the first wave of coronavirus. here is what he said. >> i think we are in a good place. i disagree. i think we're actually -- we are going to be in two, three, four weeks by the time we next speak, i think we'll be in very good shape. >> so this is a good place to be in the