tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 7, 2020 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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good evening. we are in a good place with this pandemic. a good place. we have done a good job. how does that sound to you? does that sound like reality? that we're in a good place? those are the words the president of the united states today, even as the numbers and his own experts, scientists with decades of experience have said. he said we are in a good place with the pandemic. i didn't actually believe it. but it's on tape. he was asked about dr. fauci's quote that we are knee deep. >> i think we are in a good place. we have done a good job. i think we're actually -- we are going to be in two, three, four weeks by the time we next speak,
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i think we're going to be in very good shape. >> this is a good place to be in a pandemic, in case you're wondering. soon, we're going to be in very good shape. the president spoke of california, and he said we are going to be very good, very soon. the same president that said that the virus would disappear by april. he wanted to say we have the best testing, keeping them honest. it's remarkable how things can look in a bunker in the white house where everyone has to wear a mask around and you get tested to come in contact with you. and it's a bunker, not only the sound of your own experts can penetrate it. dr. anthony fauci said this yesterday. >> the current state is really not good in the sense that as you know, we have been in a situation averages about 20,000 new cases a day. two days ago, it was at 57,500.
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so in a period in a week and a half, we almost doubled the number of cases. >> of course the president doesn't have to take it from the nation east most trusted infectious disease expert. he can take it from the coronavirus task force who acknowledged this on a call to state governors m this pike pence and dr. birx. >> they have seen a rise in cases, as of this morning. i think dr. birx, if you want to give a brief summary, we have nine and the district of columbia with rising cases combined with rising percent of positives. >> clearly, in california, texas, florida and arizona, growing issues in south carolina and georgia, and then really, just want to put the alert out there of both rising percent after positives in cases in
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oklahoma, iowa, washington state, d.c. and mtontana along with increasing numbers in louisiana, nevada, north carolina and tennessee. >> yeah that sounds good. i mean that sounds like a good place to be, right? california, texas, florida, georgia, oklahoma, iowa, washington state, washington, d.c., montana, louisiana, nevada, north carolina, and tennessee that is 14 states and the district of columbia, a good place. what you heard the vice president say, acknowledging the rice in positives, he is saying, when he said this a couple weeks ago, he wasn't being honest on what was happening in states the administration had pushed to reopen. >> we slowed the spread. we flattened the curve. we have saved lives. >> we slowed the spread. we flattened the curve. we saved lives in. that is from the last coronavirus briefing last month. he was talking in the past
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tense, you might notice. but he wasn't acknowledging the rise in cases. now, he has no other choice. the president want us to believe everything is good, and now today, forcing schools to reopen and pretending the governors might be reticent to open because he thinks it thems them politically. >> he believes most schools are going to reopen. they do it for political reasons. they keep the schools closes no way. so we are very much going to put the pressure on governors and everybody else to open the schools, get them open, and it's very important. >> the man whose ever decision is based on what will get him re-elected and appeal to people's fears is saying that governors and school officials don't want schools open because of politics, because it benefits them politically. we are so deep down in a well of
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lies, it's hard to realize how dark this is. there is no political benefit in keeping schools closed. and keeping kids angry and parents unable to work because kids are stuck and home. yeah, that is going to serve you well doing that. right now, outside of a few states, the country is dealing with the consequences, going too fast, too soon. and the president's direction, bout without the leadership, and without basic encouragement to wear masks and now, p 31 states heading steady. and it under scores the point, here is new york in green, florida in pink. new york worked hard to get its cases down. florida reopened quickly and now, new cases rising. the number of people hospitalized is growing in counties across the state.
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intensive care units, in beds available, and florida's governor ordered schools to reopen in the fall, and the president praised him for it. the plans to hold a republican convention in jacksonville are flexible. and washington today forecast more than 208,000 people in this country may be dead of covid-19 by election day. the president still does not think is all that bad. because he is still repeating the same falsehoods about testing the mortality, that fell and is sadly ticking up. >> therefore we have more cases. if we did half the testing, we could have fewer cases. but people don't do it that way. what they have to view f you look at the chart, and maybe mike has it. we looked at the charlt of deaths. if you look deaths are way down. what we want to do, we want to
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get our schools open. we want to get them open quickly, beautifully in the fall. >> dr. fauci calls the mortally claims a false narrative. and the numbers, they have been rising again. more than 600 fatalities. and the vice president who briefly acknowledged reality, nodded and agreed and praised for the leadership. that is what he does. and he tried to spin the president's lie, 99 prntd of cases totally harmless. here is what the vice president tried to reinterpret that lie. >> the american people know president trump is an optimist. he believes in the country and believes the american people deserve to have the whole story. >> what does that even mean? the president doesn't want to you know the whole story? if he wanted to you know the whole story, he would haven't stopped the task force daily
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briefings. he couldn't claim that we are in a good place. president trump is not an optimist like the vice president is claiming, who just believes so much in the country. he isn't an optimist at all. the vice president can call a lie a hope. but he doesn't make it so. it's lipstick on a pig, mr. vice president. the american people deserve the whole story. they deserve the truth as well. two public health experts in two states, texas and florida, and more on the big picture. >> taking a break for the first time since world war ii. the texas state fair just canceled as the military sends medical personnel to san antonio to help. >> the four days leading up to the fourth of july are the four deadliest days. >> in florida, icus in 43
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hospitals are now full. >> we need look at the younger population, that we know had a tremendous spike in their positivity rate, which has infected other people. >> florida still won't reveal how many covid-19 patients they have in hospitals. despite the governor claims today. >> all the data that goes into this are available. >> the spread sheets, they are not available. >> but miami-dade does release the numbers and they're up, 19% in just two weeks. still, the state just issued an order for schools to reopen next month. there's push back. >> we can't go on this path of putting our teachers in the petri dish of danger. >> i will not reopen our school similar august 24th if the conditioning are what they are
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today. >> in california, the state's capitol closed after four employees tested positive. quest diagnostics says last month, they were taking two to three days, now, 4 to 6. quick results are key in isolating the infected. >> the cases are rising so rapidly that we cannot do contract racing anymore. >> reporter: silent spreaders can be half of all new cases, and as cases climb, nearly half of states are slowing or rolling back reopening. >> if they keep moving up, we are going to dial back. it's the last thing anyone of us wants. >> now, the trump administration made good on its previous threats, and the withdraw from the world health organization today, saying it will take place in 2021.
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when is the withdraw complete? and i assume it'ser reversible defending on the next election. >> right. the letter was sint ent to the , and the u.s. will formally leave the world health organization in a year from now, july 6th, 2021. now, president trump has long criticized the w.h.o. saying they enabled china's cover up of covid-19. but they are very kritd cal of the president for leaving the organization in the middle of a pandemic. senator robert mendez tweeted, this won't protect american lives or interest. it leaves americans sick and america alone. but yes, a u.n. diplomat confirms this is reversible. it doesn't kick in for a year,
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so long after the november election. one more ade. i have seen it now. the u.s. set a new record for the number of covid cases in a single day, 55,274 today. >> nick watt, thanks very much. that is breaking news. the single today highest day of covid infections, 55,274 cases reported. that is breaking just moments ago. joining us now, dean of the national school of tropical medicine. also dr. marty, specialist at florida international university. a grim record, the record number, more than 55,000 new covid infections today. i hear president trump saying we're in a good place, is this a good place? >> anderson, today we broke that record. 55,000 in two days, we're going to break that record again. and then in two days from then,
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we will break the record again. and then we will break it again. this is -- there's nothing to stop this train. there's nothing to stop this steep acceleration in the number of cases. so the next week we will have this conversation, we will go over 60,000 cases. so we have to really reconcile with the fact this is not going -- this is not a question of not going well, this is a public health crisis. this is a public health broadcaster. people are piling in hospitals and emergency rooms, and the things we are seeing here, the health care staff are et going exhausted. it's exhausting taking on and off ppe multiple times a za. a lot of the hospital staff across the states are getting six. we are starting to see staff problems. it's not just a question -- everyone is focusing on the number of hospital beds we have,
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or icu beds. not just that. the staff, we are starting to see the staff shortages because everybody's getting sick. is a full blown public health crisis. we have to recognize and we have to start dealing with it. >> dr. marty, the white house -- vice president pence is saying that president trump is being an optimist when he says that 99% of cases are harmless. it doesn't send a good message if people are told 99% are harmless. i'm wonder what you are see in florida. it doesn't seem like harmless is the world. what is the situation you are seeing? >> what we're seeing is from the 26th of june to today, we have doubled the number of covid e admissions. we have doubled the number of covid icu beds. we are stressed tremendously. we are exhausted.
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and very significant per krentdage of the patients we are seeing and admitting to hospitals are younger people. it isn't just old folks that are ending up in hospitals and icus. >> from what i understand in florida, what you're seeing when they do contact tracing on the cases, what is the focus on the spread? i understand it's kind of family interactions, groups, parties, social interactions. is that correct? >> that is what we have been able to determine with the tools we have. one of the problems we have for managing the outbreak is that our contact tracing questionnaire doesn't give us the finesse to identify exactly many of the original sources of disease, because they're not even part of the questionnaire. what we do know is that a very
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significant portion is from personal parties, personal gatherings, graduation parties, et cetera. they are things we are able to determine because that is in the questionnaire. we are trying to change that so we can get better data, and therefore, better action. that is what we do contract trassing for. to dot action. >> why is there a bad questionnaire contract trassing at this point before the pandemic. >> so the entire process is managed out of tallahassee, and the way that we do the contract tracing for this outbreak hasn't been tailored for this disease and the reality that we know that this is an infection where a very significant portion of individuals are transmitting when they are presymptomatic or asymptomatic and the questions
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don't ask details where individuals were in certain situations or is it demanded that individuals have to answer, which they really need to. and where i don't want to force anybody to do anything, the reality is we need to help them/let them help us to help them back. >> doctor, i mean, the idea that we're so far into the pandemic, and the doctor there is saying the very questionnaire they are asking don't even get to the critical information about the pandemic, and i know we talked last night. you're saying this point in texas there are so many cases, contact tracing may not be possible. >> that's right. we just don't know if the measures that have been put in place in the states where the cases are accelerating the most,
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mostly in the south across the south, but now we are starting to see cases climb in tennessee and the northern parts of the midwest. the measures under taken are going to be adequate. this is the problem with the lack of strategy by the u.s. government. we are basically leaving it to the states to figure out. we'll provide backup support. but the states need the full force of the federal government behind them. and it's clear that we're not so far seeing significant action either from the executive branch, the white house or the agencies. we have to start looking at what other options will have, and there is something that congress will mandate to get a federal response under way. this is something they will look at as well. business as usual is not working. it's not a question of waiting for regime change in november. there's going to be too much damage done, permanent damage,
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if we don't intervene over the next few weeks. >> doctors, i really appreciate your time. coming up next, more than 208 fatalities that could save lives. later, the book the president didn't want to you see reveals his character, and the psychologist who wrote it happens to be his niece. right now at t-mobile,
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of washington. it projects more than 208,000 total for the november. joining us is dr. chris murray. what factors are affecting the number the most? >> well, the big increases we're saying in florida, arizona, texas, california, we're concerned and south carolina. seeing increases in turning the corner a little bit in ohio. that is one factor. the other factor is school openings we expect in august and september. that will increase the rates on current trajectories and the seasonality that will stick in in september and october, all those come together to kick in the numbers for the first of november. >> so schools -- kids going bah to school f that happens, that means more people will die. >> well, it's -- kids going back
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to school but all the other stuff around school. all the sbinteractions that kid go to school. we have seen when school closures came in, not just kiss with less contact but parents are less likely to go to work. there is after school activities and around school. and the package, that is a big con trib bite -- contributor to how schools are managed. >> the figure now goes up to november. is it still your expectation that once we're in november, december, january, that then there is -- there is the seasonal flu, and then there's likely to be a resurgence just seasonally for covid? >> that is certainly our very strong expectation. so we think it will be worse in november, december, january. those are probably the worst period for the pan dem nick the
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u.s. fp our understanding right now holds true. >> how much do your protections take into account whether or not state and local governments reimpose stay at home orders or business closures or mandatory mask wearing? obviously some political leaders are wary of doing that. they may have to consider that. >> we are trying to keep on top of the closures as we come in. and try to build those in the mod 'ems. we know that people if they wear masks f we get it to 95% of people wearing masks through man g mandates, that reduce the death toll by november by 45,000 deaths. if states start doing that, it will the come down. we have to keep on talking about it. >> if -- what percentage of the population started to -- you said 45,000 people would might
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day would survive? what is the percentage? >> when you get people up to what singapore has achieved in mask wearing. 95% of people wearing masks when they are out in public spaces at roifk of transmission, that is where we see we can save 45,000 american lives. >> amazing that you can look at just that one factor and equate that to 45,000 people being alive who would die. that an extraordinary thing. what is the current -- 95%, that is obviously singapore level. singapore is more draconian level. do you know what the percent outside is? >> well, the percent after masks varies a lot. in the northeast where the pandemic was bad, mask use was
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high. in the 70% range or even 80%. and mask use is really low in some of the states that vnts seen a big epidemic yet. we see where states put in mandates, we are starting to see an up tick in mask use. it's the power of states and local government in place. >> you have been tracking the data on the virus from the beginning. and we have been talking since the beginning on the outbreak. did the u.s. experience an end to the first wave? is it still the first wave? >> i don't think -- people talk about waves when they're thinking about the spanish flu or the flu season, where transmission goes to zero. so there is a very district
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first wave and a second wave. covid isn't like that. ed transmission went down for a period. didn't get down to zero enter now it's bouncing back in many places. it's sortd of an artificial distinction. we're just in the middle of an active transmission, it's expandsing in a lot of states and likely to get worse. >> dr. murray, i appreciate you being was. thank you very much. thanks for your work. with the projected death toll to november, vaccine research is ever more paramount. i will talk to a researcher who is focused on the short term but the long war ahead.
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warp speed, the federal government's efforts to fast track a coronavirus vaccine today awarded the single biggest contract so far. a contract with novavax. they hope to have a vaccine next year. and marketing a safe and effective vaccine is a very difficult process. to help guide us through the maze is a researcher on the team, and a director of infectious disease of walter reed research. thank you for your work and thank you for being with us. how optimistic are thaw a vaccine will come in?
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>> thank you for having me on. it's a pleasure to speem with you tonight. i am very optimist you can we will have a vaccine in the new future. a safe vaccine. how effective it will be, time will tell. i don't think it will be one vaccine. it will be multiple vaccines we will get across the finish line, and we may need multiple it rations of the vaccine going forward season to season. >> explain why the vaccine you're working on is potentially unique? >> right, so i work at the walter reed army research. the largest and oldest research institute in the department of defense. we have been working on other viruss and other coronavirus like mers. and one of the approaches is to develop a vaccine that attacks
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all coronaviruses within that virus family. and if you think about all the vaccines out there that are being advanced, it's essentially the same payload they're delivering. if you think of a chassis for a vehicle, what goes on the vehicle, that is the same. it's the spike bro teprotein th latches on the lung cells. what is different is the platform. and our platform is like a soccer ball, in that it has multiple faces on it. about 24 -- and the spiked protein goes on the 24 faces. when you present something like this to the immune system, a vaccine is teaching the imnmune system how to fight off the infection without getting the infest. it tends to boost immunity. and the benefit is that you can mix and match different
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coronavir coronavirus proteins so if this virus mutates. >> reporter: or rewant to address others viruss in the future, we can put the spike proteins with the coronavirus to make a vaccine. >> that is really fascinating. there are other coronaviruses and there will likely be new coronaviruses that we do not know about. dr. fauci has said given the circumstances, he will settle for a vaccine that is 70 to 75% effective. but there is a large percentage of the population that is anti-science, anti-science and anti-vaccine. if order for a vaccine to work, how effective does it meneed toe and what percentage of people need to receive it? >> it all defends on what your purpose, your intent is. are you trying to decrease the number of infections?
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are you trying to mitigate the disease severity. there are different end points for different vaccines. viruses that are transmitted more easily like sars, covid-2 that causes covid-19, you need a higher proportion of people that are vac nated. we have seen with measles when vaccine coverage goes down a little bit, you get outbreaks. we don't know what coverage you need to completely stop transmission. but a swrak seen that is effective and taking by a proportion of the population will have some impact. it's better to have some impact than nothing in the tool shed at all. >> and you talked about the long war. by that you mean other coronaviruses that are out there and others that are yet to come. >> yeah, this is a seventh
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book but an appeals court lifted the retraining order. one of those who order who read it, maggie, you have seen it. there are a lot of notable peassages already online. one, she writes that donald trump hired and paid for someone to take his s.a.t.s. and a smart kid who is a good test taker. the white house released a statement denying this. what do you make? >> a few things. certainly, the s.a.t. anecdote and with any other president, i would be mind blowing. with things the president has done over time, it's sort of smaller by comparison. she paints a dark portrait of hur uncle and grandfather, and describes him as the person who made her uncle the way he is.
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she drink p describes her grandpa as a sociopath. clearly some of this is not -- she was hearing it from other family members but she does talk about conversations she had with the president's sister mary ann and described him as a clown. they talked about mary trump's father to died of alcohol illness and was brutal lized by the four. she was very angly that president tump was talking about the memory of treaddy trump, saying she was using him. it's going to be a familiar picture to people who have red other books about the penalty. what is different this is a
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family member. >> what is interesting, what she says abl say about the rein between trump and his father. she writes his pathologies, and the tests they will never sit for. you know, others have called him a sociopath. and doctors have signed a letter saying that effect. she dull actually does have a phd in psychology. but the relationship how he grandfather created donald trump is fascinating. >> it is, and look, for people who have known that family for a while, that is what everyone has said. essentially, fred trump created his son. there was a competition for fred trump's affection, and affection is the wrong word. attention.
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and mary trump describes her uncle as in a state of arrested development emotionally, constantly still trying to get love and attention from a father who couldn't do it, or just is not able to, and a mother who had a variety of illnesses, and again, people who are interested in where the president comes from, there is a new york feel about the book. she talks about a famous steak house in brooklyn the family would go to. >> i saw you tweet about it. >> yeah, and i think that there are people who placing donald trump in a place in time in new york, i think will find it interesting. but again, i think in terms of the overall portrait of who he is, i think it adds to a pretty broad -- >> mary trump ryes about how trump was able to avoid contempt
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from his father, and that fred trump sr. was a sociopath, and that is consistent to what people have said about him. and it's fascinating how the father obviously had a lot to do with the son's success early on, and kind of funding it, and how donald trump moved from queens to -- he had his eyes on manhattan from a young age, and that is where he wanted to make his mark different from his father. >> he wanted to make his mark different from his father. but remember, part of donald trump's self-portrait that is not true is that he is a self-made man who got a small loan from his father. my colleagues in 2018 demonstrated how not true that was. he was heavily reliant on fred trump and part of it, the family was. they all were. everybody's money in some way or not descend from fred trump.
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despite his months of downplaying the virus, the brazilian president, jair bolsonaro, said today he's come down with covid-19. he made the announcement on brazilian television. he said he went to a hospital to receive a lung scan. he said he will not hold any in-person meetings in the future. now sure how this will affect his attitude toward the pandemic which has been ravaging brazil. time new to check in with chris. see what he's working on for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> none of us is immune. i mean, that's the sad reality. the virus is the only constant. and just wait until we find out how long a tail this tornado
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has. i'm telling you, i'm still not right. a lot of people have had this virus unless it's a light case and they get lucky. but even my wife had a light case but her lack of taste and smell -- not her taste in men. her lack of sense of taste. cooper, i know what you were thinking, but her taste and smell came back last weekend. we don't know what we don't know about this virus so we have to take it very seriously, and let's be honest, this country isn't doing it on the levels that matter most. tonight with the president saying, hey, schools, they've got to open, i'm going to pressure them. and we've seen this game before. he did it with reopening, he did it with testing, he did it with ppe. i'm going to make it happen but it's a state issue, same thing with schools. we're bringing in teachers from florida. that's not just the biggest hot spot we're tracking with cases, they want to reopen schools in like a month just when they're getting it their worst in terms of cases. got the head of the teachers union to talk about the realities and what they need to go back to work. >> all right.
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[ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. tonight, we remember more lives lost from the coronavirus. stephen cooper was a new yorker who grew up in queens. on the morning of september 11th, 2001, he was making a delivery in lower manhattan when the towers were hit. a police officer told everyone on the street to run. stephen was captured in this famous photograph.
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he's on the left in the black shirt running away as the towers collapsed. he was covered from head to toe in soot and ash after he ran but he survived and he never even realized he was in that photo until weeks later. his partner said for a long time he kept that photo in his wallet. he was admitted to the hospital in march. he died five days later. it was only after his death he tested positive for the virus. stephen cooper was 78 years old and he will be missed. dr. stephen camholts was a chairman of medicine in brooklyn. when the pandemic hit the patients started flooding in, doctors and nurses at his hospital were also getting infected, but he never even considered not going to work. that's the kind of person he was. because of his age he was in the high-risk group but his family says he would never ask his staff to assume the risk of catching the virus without assuming the risk himself. in april he tested positive and then became a patient in his own hospital, but he kept on working teaching doctors and nurses from his hospital bed how best to treat virus patients. he died eight weeks after
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contracting the virus. he was 72 years old. our thoughts go out to every family that has been impacted by this virus. the news continues now. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> thank you, anderson. this is "cuomo prime time." sadly today was not the day this president decided to create a national response to a pandemic that is holding this country back and literally making us sick. we just shattered our previous single-day record of coronavirus cases. more than 55,000 infections reported just today. and trump just trying to play you once again. this time about schools. saying the tough talk. he's going to crank up pressure to get all schools open this fall. >> we're very much going to put pressure on governors and everybody else to open the schools, to get them open, and it's very important.
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