she told her son she was ready to go. after hearing that news, curtis started to deteriorate. nurses were able to bring them together one last time, and they died within an hour of each other. a nurse put betty's hand on curtis' arm, and they held on to each other until the very end. let's go to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> when we hear about the stories, we say, they had a good life. but what if they could have had six more months or another year or two? ask their families how they feel. we both know the answer, having lost parents, you would give anything for a little bit more time. thank you for telling their stories, as always, brother. thank you, anderson. i'm chris cuomo, welcome to "prime time." another day gone without the president deciding to lead us

with a plan of action to fight the pandemic. instead, we now know what he meant by pressuring states to reopen schools, ready or not. without ever offering them a plan to help. if they don't reopen, he will punish the poorest students. he said he's going to pull federal aid, and the kids that get most of that aid are the neediest. many of them are white, by the way, and from families that may be trumpers. you may argue, wait a minute, the cdc put together some guidelines to help states figure out how to reopen. you're right. but trump attacked the cdc for putting too much emphasis on safety. calling the suggestions too tough and expensive. guess what, the cdc buckled. new recommendations are coming next week. do you think they'll make schools more or less safe?

that's a rhetorical question. and i told you the scientists would be silenced last night. today, who don't we see? no fauci at the task force briefing. i wonder why? because fauci is saying we're not on the right side of the pandemic. that we shouldn't be complacent, that we're knee-deep in the crisis. the president wants you to ignore his own health officials, and at the same time, he says he should be given more credit because fauci and the others are seen as so credible. maybe if you start listening to fauci, and doing what fauci says you should do, you'll be seen as credible as fauci is. but not now, and here's a reason why. trump just pointed to countries like germany, denmark, norway, sweden. he said schools are open there with no problems.

so the u.s. should have no problems, right? you know how many cases germany reported yesterday? look on your screen. 279. denmark, 10. norway, 11. sweden, 283. the united states? single day record of the wrong kind, my brothers and sisters. 60,021. we topped 3 million cases today. the other countries have plans and leadership at the top. we should be first, but we're the worst. arizona is a disaster. icu beds are almost all being used as cases surge. where is the plan to help them. the governor is a republican, he said nice things about you. help him, mr. trump. the school concern will grow with every day that we get closer to the fall. and every day without a plan to help the states. my first guest says the right

question isn't, can we open schools? of course we can. the real question is, can we keep schools open? dr. ashish ja, good to see you as always. >> chris, thank you for having me on. >> whether you can keep schools open, meaning can we go through with schools what we did with reopening, and what is your suggestion about which way it's looking now? >> chris, here's the bottom line. i'm a dad, i have three kids. i desperately want them back in schools. we all want our kids back in schools. >> yup. >> the issue isn't, do you want kids back in schools. it is, are we ready to have schools open and stay open in the fall? and the size of the outbreak in the community dom mainates the issue. and do you have the ventilation,

the spacing, and the testing? if you don't have all of that, you can say you want schools open all you want, but you won't be able to keep them open. teachers, staff, and students will get sick. >> the president says no, no, no, we're good here. because kids don't get as sick. that's why the death rate is going on. so this is a good thing. even if they get it, they're okay. open the school, jha. >> you can open the schools, and if you can run schools without adults, just have the kids teach themselves, that would be great. two points. first of all, kids do get sick. absolutely not as often as adults. but you do need adults to run schools. and without adults, it's very hard to run schools. >> help me understand. put up the full screen of the cdc guidelines on reopening schools. the president has pushed on them, and new ones are coming next week, but which ones are

too tough and expensive? wearing masks, staying home where appropriate, staggered scheduling, modified seating, closing communal spaces. the white house said they also want some kids to bring lunches to school. do you see any of that is onerous? >> i think it's basic. where is the testing protocol? where is the real aggressive surveillance program? the cdc toned this down. the scientists at the cdc are world-class. they toned it down. >> they're going to tone it down more. >> i'm worried about that. here's the bottom line, chris. you can't bluff your way through this virus. you can't tone it down with the virus. the virus is going to do what it is going to do. and we've got to be smart and we've got to outsmart the virus. and the cdc plan isn't good enough, and if it's toned down

further, that won't be good. >> why is california going through 44% hospitalizations going up. icus, testing, 100,000 a day at 8%. these numbers, why so much growth? why so many positive tests in just the last two weeks? >> i have to tell you, i'm puzzled. gavin newsom was one of the country's leaders initially. >> yes. >> he did a great job in march and april. i don't understand what happened, but it feels like me he let his foot off the pedal, and let a lot of counties open up way too fast. didn't react fast enough. i'm a fan of governor newsom, but his performance in the last couple of weeks has not been as science and evidence-based as i would like him to be. >> i would love to talk to the governor and his officials, they have an open invitation and that stands. arizona has a 25% positivity

rate with its testing. and they're about to start doing, we're going to take this on with a doctor on the front lines, they're starting to do, like, italy-type triage there. jha is sick, cuomo is sick, we can only help one. should there be federal emergency response? >> i don't know what to tell you, chris. this is unbelievable at this point in the pandemic. we're six months in, and i thought we had this under control. i thought we would have the federal response. but we're just letting the ball drop. so that is why we have state after state struggling. and it's a real problem. >> i've never had a conversation with someone like you about something like this where i wasn't standing in haiti or the middle east, saying the united states has to get over here with

money and help. amazing. dr. jha, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. i know the numbers get numbing. and they don't capture the distress in places like arizona. when we come back, we'll go to a doctor on the front lines. you'll hear why she says she can't keep up, and as a result they may be forced to do something you can't believe would happen in this country, next. choose between a great network and the best prices. we give you both. switch your family from at&t or verizon to t-mobile and you will save up to 50% off your current service and smart phones.... 50% with three or more lines of essentials with unlimited talk, text and data. all on a network built with our best signals for coverage. and keep your current phones. we'll pay them off up to $450 bucks each. now get an amazing network for an amazing price. only at t-mobile.

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arizona is now ground zero in this pandemic. we have to spend time there and figure out why and help these people. there's real concern about the state's ability to fight it on your own. you wouldn't know that listening to the vice president today. >> we're actually seeing early indications of a percent of positive testing flattening in arizona and florida and texas. and in arizona and florida, we're beginning to see declining numbers of emergency room visits as well. >> look, i know somebody else is giving the numbers. and i know fauci said he believes the vp is doing a good job. i trust dr. fauci. i guess he's seeing something that we're not. but we're going to go to arizona right now, okay? and we're going to talk to somebody who is on the front

lines, seeing the reality without any politics. 145 icu beds, that's all they've got left. 2,008 covid patients in the e.r. positive rate is 25%. arizona, not flattening. fact. let's talk more about what happened, this is not about politics. we don't do that to doctors. let's bring in dr. hannah dillon, who treats covid patients in tucson. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> what are you seeing in terms of hospitalization rates and the types of cases and the ability to deal with them? >> so our hospital has been doing everything we can to expand our capacity to take this

increasing surge of patients. but the patients don't seem to be slowing down. our icus have been full in arizona for some time. we have beds variable heavailab there, and we have a surge line that allows hospitals to transfer patients to where there are resources. we've been doing that now for some weeks, having to transfer two patients to a hospital that has two beds for them. and the next day, our hospital accepts a patient or two. so it's been a real challenge to get patients the care they need and the physicians, the nurses, our excellent health care teams, are really being stretched to their limits at this time. >> are you seeing people get sick in your ranks? >> we have had a few people get sick amongst us.

fortunately, nobody has gotten really sick yet. >> good. >> we have adequate supplies of ppe, so it's slightly better than two months ago in our country. >> so if i took the position, all right, you guys are great, you're dealing with a problem, but you're handing it well so far, why the concern? >> the concern is, every day we're seeing increasing numbers, not decreasing numbers. with that pattern, and with the amount of work we're already doing across the state, to transfer patients and expand our capacity to care for patients, we do worry that at some point there will be a breaking point, where our system can't stretch further. icu nurses can't safely care for more than two to three patients with covid. it's a complex illness. it affects patients in many

ways. and they are very demanding patients. it would not be safe to stretch our staff more than that. so humans are our greatest resource right now, our nurses, respiratory specialists. >> i want to get this right. you helped write the crisis standards of care for arizona. we're being told that you may get to a point and soon where you have to start making really tough choices about whom to help and how. help me understand this. what are we talking about here? >> so, no physician, chris, eveever wants to be in the position to even have these conversations. it's uncomfortable for us to even talk about, because we enter this profession with the belief that all life is valuable

and worth saving. and that we will do our best to care for every single person who needs our help. a few months ago, when we were watching the situation unfolding in new york and other places around the world, we started to realize we might have to make plans for the absolute worst case scenario. the crisis standards of care is a very large set of guidelines that arizona uses to guide its decision making when we reach really severe levels of this pandemic. >> what kind of choices do you have to make? >> so our resources are strapped in some ways. it's not ventilators anymore, as you experienced in new york. >> right. >> but we're looking at, you know, we only have so many ekmo machines in the state of arizona, it takes blood out, oxygenates it, and returns it to the patient's body.

we don't have any of those available, so a patient would have a hard time getting placed on an ekmo machine in arizona. we have have dialysis machines >> you will have to start making choices about who gets this care, even though you have three or four equal patients? >> those of us who authored the crisis standards of care, we hoped we wouldn't need to get there. >> how far are you? >> i hope it never comes to that. >> how do we keep you from getting that? >> we need people. we need nurses, patient care technicians, and respiratory therapists. >> i haven't heard the governor

put out the call. we're not talking politics. but is it clear, this need, on all levels? this isn't something you guys are keeping to yourself, or that other people say, no, no, no, listen, i know dillon, she's a good doctor. but she's wrong about this. is there any gray area here, or is everybody on the same page about the need? >> there has been some good effort. my hospital received about 40 support people from a medical disaster relief team, and they've been doing a tremendous amount of good. so we are getting help. it's just that the case numbers are rising so quickly. >> you need more. >> it's very hard to keep up with our needs. >> texas has some military personnel going there. do you have a request in for that? >> i believe our hospital does. but we are competing with other hospitals across the state of arizona who are just as desperate as we are.

>> but we haven't heard about any military going to arizona yet, have you? >> i haven't. >> oh, my. listen, dr. dillon, here's what we can do. i'm privileged to be able to tell you a story because i've heard we've been in and out of arizona with our reporting. i know how hard you guys are working, how much you love the communities, and how much the communities come together in time of need. as the situation progresses, you have an open invitation on this show to tell us what is going on and what is needed. i promise you, people in positions of power are aware, and they will be made aware of this segment that the need is great in arizona, and they have to answer why they're not addressing it. >> thank you so much, chris. >> all right, dr. dillon, god bless you and your teammates there. stay healthy and thank you for helping. >> thank you. >> boy, oh, boy. can you believe that, in america, in arizona. why aren't they helping?

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spiking. new york, denver, miami, other places. and the white house says it cares. >> i didn't receive one question about new york city shootings doubling for the second straight week, skyrocketing by 142%. not one question. we need to secure the streets, making sure no lives are lost. >> they have offered no way to do those things. so why do they care? well, they care if they can blame it on their opponents. but let's see how ms. i won't lie to you feels as we drop some truth on their roof. they say, didn't it start right around the protests, all the calls to defund the police? the criminals are running wild. that's why she wants questions about it, to say that, right?

but what else started in june? states started lifting stay at home orders then, didn't they? well, you don't know that that's what it was. okay. why in april and may, when businesses were closed and we were forced to stay home, were homicides down? also, homicide rates, as you may now, almost always spike in summer. why? kids are out of school, more people are out in general and in contact with each other. more chance for beefs, good and bad. you get more of us at our worst. but people are not out and about as much, at least they shouldn't be. another curveball. homicides are up in 25 american cities, but overall, crime is down. why? we can't really know, because our federal government under trump has not improved slow and incomplete reporting on such things. but here's what we do know. during the pandemic, reports of

domestic violence, spiking. calls to mental health hot lines, same. overdoses, same. all reasons to end the pandemic as soon as you can. you know, with a plan, mr. self-appointed wartime president. or you can just go after the reasons that were here long before covid and will remain long after if things stay the same. entrenched poverty, a culture of exclusion that leads to crime and killing and tragic faces like these. six dead kids shot over the holiday weekend, between the ages of 6 and 14. they were living in the wrong place at the wrong time. violent crime rates have been falling for decades. but that stat belies the reality that black lives just don't seem to matter as much. black people are still ten times more likely to lose their life in a shooting than whites. chicago had 1,200 extra officers

patrolling the fourth of july weekend. it's not enough, because cops can't change poverty. desperation that leads to crime and killing, if your life seems to have few good options, legit legs up are few. college is a pipe dream. good jobs seem to not exist. as krs-one asked, what the hell do you think they're supposed to do. here's what the president says. >> we're fixing the inner cities. we're doing far more than anyone has done, fixing the inner cities. >> he's lying, period. income inequality is the highest it's been since the government started tracking it five decades ago. this administration has made it harder to be poor, kicking people off food stamps, they're

rolling back fair housing rules during a pandemic. he's tried every year of his administration to cut billions from public housing. he's also tried to get rid of help for minority businesses. before and after-school programs. heating assistance, rental assistance. and from "k" to 12, we spend way less on black kids than white, even when you adjust for poverty. when it comes to guns, you know where we are. even things with bipartisan support like universal background checks are stuck. even the crickets are getting tired. the trumpers have spent years quietly making it easier to buy, sell, and move guns. he has never even said there is

systemic racism, or that the outraged deserve recourse. he has no position on confederate flags flying in america in 2020. and he basically blames the recent crime increases on the black lives matter movement. but he wants you to believe he's about fixing things. don't believe the hype. know the history, and compare it to his story. the two are very different. we're losing too many lives. you got this crisis, you got covid, but ohio's governor just did something that is no doubt going to save lives. he just issued something that you don't like hearing, especially from the right side of the aisle. mandatory mask orders in counties where infections are surging. what changed his mind? how can he enforce it? how will he deal with the political blowback? does he care? next.

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just over three hours ago, ohio's governor dewine made mask wearing mandatory for seven counties, as the state continues to see a spike, with the fourth highest number of cases daily. governor dewine, good to see you, i want you to have this platform to make your case for what is happening. why has the state taken a downturn? >> well, i think summer is here. people are out, people are moving around. chris, i don't think there's any secret about what is going on across this country. and, you know, when we had

people staying home, they didn't have as much contact. i spent some time on the phone talking to different health directors in the different counties, i called all seven counties the other day. and i said, what is causing this? the answer is, look, people are out. these are sometimes big family events occurring, sometimes a wedding, sometimes a funeral. sometimes they're going to a bar. you know, all kinds of things. some of that is, of course, an institution such as a nursing home. but the majority of it is not. most of it is community spread, people are moving around. and our message continues to be the same, this is a mask that fran made, an ohio mask here. and our message is, people need to wear these. and we need to focus on what we have to do. that we can go about our lives, we need to learn to live with this virus, but if we're going

to live with it, if we're going to continue for the economy to grow and for people to have jobs, we need to be very careful, observe the six feet, wash our hands, wear masks when we're in public. these are just very essential things. >> you know, nobody should be happy to hear that you've had to make masks mandatory in counties, because that means you have great need. but what is easy to dislike is what seems to be a pattern of republican governors not doing what you just did. and desantis, he has every reason times severalfold to do what you just did. arizona, you know what is happening there. is it fair to say there is some type of political element to a decision to put masks or not in some of these states? >> no, i mean, look. this is a matter of public health. chris, you and i have talked

about this before. we originally put out an order that said that anybody in any workplace has to wear a mask. and i think that has worked very well. in many cases, the safest eight hours a day is the time that people are at work, following the protocols. and they're doing by and large a very good job. we talked about to put out a mandatory mask for everyone in public, it was clear early on there was not only not support for that, but there is a big, huge pushback and that was not going to work. but what we've now done is we've taken all of our 88 counties, and measuring the amount of spread. we have four colors. the third level is -- there's four levels, the third level is red. and the seven counties that we

put the mask order in at 6:00 p.m. tonight are all counties that are unfortunately moving forward with the coronavirus, and we have to stop it. >> right. >> and part of this is, it's not just -- we want people to wear a mask, but putting a mask order on is another way to signal to people, look, your county is different. it's spreading very quickly, and we need to do it. >> that's leadership, gov. you're not a rush to judgment kind of guy. the reason i bring up the politics is, again, i give you the platform because you deserve it. you're doing something that is not popular, but that's leadership. to my point, you got the sheriff in one of your counties, you make the order, it's based on the numbers. everybody can see the basis. i know you know what i'm talking

about. but let the audience listen to this man. >> i'm not going to be the mask police. don't call 911. if you want to call the governor's office or health department, they can put a light on their car and stop people for it. i'm not going to do it. it should be a choice. you shouldn't have to wear a mask if you don't want to. our governor is a nice guy, and he's doing the best he can, but he's not communicating with the people in the communities. >> does this guy want your job? he's right, you're a nice guy, but you're also his governor. he doesn't get to decide which one of your laws he enforces. >> sheriff jones is a friend of mine. we do disagree on some issues. >> some friend. with friends like that -- >> you know, chris, really, we're not looking to arrest people. we're not looking to -- >> but what message does that

send, gov? you're doing something that is difficult. it's easy to do nothing. we're seeing that every day on high. what do you do if someone like him doesn't want to enforce it? >> the law is a teacher. the law sets norms for society. we had already seen, you can't prove it, but we had already started to see a significant increase in people wearing masks around ohio. and something we started two weeks ago, we were on tv with some, i think, very compelling ads, not mike dewine talking, but medical people talking. doctors, nurses, and basically saying, look, we need to wear a mask. we need to protect each other if our economy and businesses will move forward and not shut down. we need to move forward. we have a businessman, he owns a

bar and a restaurant, he ends the ad and says, hey, we can do this. but we have to be careful. we need to wear the masks. >> all the families who want their kids to go back to school. they can't go to school where cases are spiking. it would be political suicide, i know you're trying to get ahead of this, because we know what happens if you don't. >> well, what we are telling people, everybody wants to see friday night football, high school. >> sure. >> we want to see saturday football with ohio state. we want a lot of different things to occur. we want our kids, as you say, back in school, actually in the classroom. what we do now over the next several months, you know, the next six weeks, is really going to determine what that fall looks like. that's been my message to my fellow ohioans. we can do this.

we don't need to get 100%. if we get 80%, 85% of the people out there wearing a mask, already everybody in the store is wearing a mask who is working there. so if we can get 85% of the people to do that, and i think we can, we're going to slow this thing down dramatically and make it a lot better fall for all of us. >> test your friendship with the sheriff, see if he'll do an ad, and put over the top, don't be this guy. >> i'll see if the sheriff will wear a mask. >> he may have to to hide himself after that sound bite. governor, good luck. thank you very much. be safe, and be healthy. >> thank you. thanks, chris. >> take care, governor. can you believe that, like, that's tough now? it should be a choice. what? yeah, it should be a choice until people don't make the right choice. and the numbers are suggesting

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sorry about that. i was trying to look up the song. now, back@matter at hands. more than 20 times some context. what was george floyd saying to the officers? what were the officers saying to each other? you know that he was

communicating he couldn't breathe. we had never heard the actual footage of the body cam. all right. which will be a big part of the official record. we now know because a court filing what's on the camera. specifically because lawyers for one of the officers charged are trying to get his case removed. dismissed. we haven't seen the body cam video, but this filing includes an 82 page transcript. there's a lot to dig through. no better than with laura coates. floyd was telling them he couldn't breathe before they had him on the ground. what does that mean? and accent that with the aspects. tell my mother i love her. that type of talk. significance? >> this case really remains heartbreaking even with the transcript. i'm glad you mention the part we haven't seen and heard.

we don't know about the tone used and the demeanor of anyone. all we see is the black and white issue. what we see gives a clear picture. a couple interesting points. we were all led to believe in many respects the very first time he indicated inability to fear is on the ground under the knee of the officer. apparently before that he experienced some fear of his claustrophobia and reason he didn't want to go not back of the squad car. you were talking about why do they keep moving him around. from place to place. part according to is he wanted to get out of the car. he felt claustrophobic. concerned he was in there. he had been shot before. >> he told them. he couldn't breathe. they were trying to get him in the car. you can have the argument about whether they believe it or not.

that is something that was being said. he asked him not to soot him. the other side. lane may have a case that he did say to chauvin should we turn him around. should we turn him on his side. but never got off of him. his argument will be i didn't know what to do. how strong is that legally. >> the idea he is following orders. we know people have said however it has to persuade a jury that he really didn't understand that the probable cause of the action of chauvin would result in the killing of a human being. he can't blindly follow and pretend as though he's a rookie and that's the reason he's in the going anything. if he knows better as a human and experienced officer. even of four days. it's interesting in minnesota. remember officer chauvin the lead charges of the second degree murder and manslaughter those are non-intent.

unintentional based crimes in minnesota. but the aiding and abetting that lane and the two others are intent. they have to prove they intended they knowingly engaged in behavior to assist committing a crime. his defense will be i didn't know a crime was being committed. i was following a commanding officer and didn't intend this. >> interesting question. we'll follow it with you. we'll be right back. t-mobile and sprint have merged.

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tonight's american't. ohio state rep. he first made headlines in may said wearing a mask would dishonor god. he hasn't wised up despite 2 million more covid-19 cases in his own state going south. now he's barking about his states new mask mandate. ordered by governor. who you heard from.

he has to do it. the representative cries quote are you tired of living in a take into accounter ship yet? this is what happens when people go crazy and get tested. stop getting tested. it's giving the government to claim something is happening that is not happening at the magnitude they say it's happening. what a dummy. someone needs to give him the memo. covid-19 is killing us. testing, masks, distancing. wash your hand. that's our best hope. not this talk from this guy. waving religion around. wwjd. you think that would be the instruction? remember the new model trusted by the white house. if 95% wore masks we could save 45,000 lives by november. get tested if you can. he failed his test. it was one of leadership in the

pandemic. he's a demagogue. not a leader. that makes him an american't. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" starts right now. >> what are these people -- come on. really? >> he's irish. >> i'm not saying -- >> couldn't be more italian than that. >> i'm not getting in on that thing. i wonder if the people work for the pretzel company. open -- >> they got it twisted. it's religion. you can't wear a mask. you don't see one on jesus. >> what is happening? have you seen the videos of the people in the stores who are like get away from me! you're threatening me. i don't have to wear a mask. i want to