hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm michael holmes. and coming up here on "cnn newsroom." a jump like we have not seen before in coronavirus cases around the world. as one u.s. state shatters a record of its own.

even as the virus rages out of control, the white house trying to discredit one of the nation's leading health experts. dr. anthony fauci. and dozens of cases of covid-19 detected on military bases in japan. we're live in tokyo with a look at what's being done to slow that spread. welcome, everyone. the world heath organization says a staggering 230,000 cases of coronavirus were reported around the world on sunday. the most in a single day. the surge in new infections is being led, of course, by the u.s., which has confirmed more than 3.3 million cases of its own overall. since last week at least 33 states have reported a significant jump in new

infections but the u.s. surgeon general believes the country can still turn things around. >> the disease course is about two to three weeks. so just as we see cases skyrocket, we can turn this thing around in two to three weeks if we can get a critical mass of people wearing face coverings, practicing at least six feet of social distancing, doing the things that we know are effective. and it's important for the american people to understand when we're talking about the fall, we have the ability to turn this around very quickly if people will do the right thing. >> meantime, florida counted more than 15,000 infections of its own on sunday. that set a new one-day record for any state in the country since the pandemic began. officials say the number of hospitalizations is also up. and it is pushing doctors and nurses to their limit. now, that astounding rise in cases is the result of a more aggressive move to reopen, of course, a push that president trump himself championed.

as cnn's natasha chen reports, city and state leaders in florida now scrambling to regroup and recover. >> the positivity rate in the state of florida is 19%. this is of concern in miami-dade county. the mayor there told cnn's dana bash he's particularly concerned about icu capacity. >> ventilator space or ventilator usage has gone up also, close to 200 now, and so we've had, you know, we definitely had a, you know, a sharp increase in the number of people going to the hospital. a number of people are in icu, and the number of people on our ventilators, we still have capacity, but it does cause me a lot of concern. >> florida governor ron desantis

said he is working on ways to get shorter turnaround time for test results and has reiterated they are staying put, status quo at phase ii of reopening. not moving forward in the timeline to reopen any more businesses. bars were allowed to reopen in early june, but they were shut down again a few weeks later when health officials there traced clusters of coronavirus cases to people who had made visits to bars. natasha chen, cnn, atlanta. as the outbreak continues to grow, the white house has been trying to undermine its own top infectious disease expert. with more on that push to discredit dr. anthony fauci, let's go now to cnn correspondent kristen holmes. >> reporter: well, it would be extraordinary to see this sort of broad siding of one top health officials by the white house in any situation, but it's particularly striking given that it's happening during a pandemic. we had seen this tension between

dr. fauci and president trump really start to boil up in public kind of lashing out at one another. at one point, dr. fauci openly disagreeing with president trump. he said that the government's response wasn't really that great to coronavirus. he also talked about how he wasn't sure where president trump had gotten certain information. and then you have president trump saying that dr. fauci was a nice man but had made a lot of mistakes. now in an official statement from a white house official, when asked about this relationship between the two, between the white house and this leading health expert, they said -- a white house official saying several white house officials are concerned about the number of times dr. fauci has been wrong on things. and then they presented a list here that looks almost like opposition research that we would get if they were talking about someone like joe biden or a political opponent. listing out early comments that dr. fauci made when talking about the pandemic, that you didn't need to wear a mask or that the epidemic is not driven by asymptomatic carriers. things that we heard not just from dr. fauci but from many medical experts early on when we

were still figuring out what was going on with the pandemic. but, again, the broader picture here is that during this pandemic you're seeing a white house that is actively lashing out at one of the nation's top officials. someone who is supposedly an adviser to president trump. he was a member of the coronavirus task force here. so it's very striking to see something like this going on at a time when these cases just continue to surge. kristen holmes, cnn, the white house. and with me now to discuss all of this, chief medical officer of usc hills hospital. good to see you again, doctor. i wanted to start with dr. anthony fauci because we have to. the president reportedly not even speaking with his top expert. you've got white house staffers sending reporters what's been called opposition research on their own top infectious disease doctor in the middle of a pandemic. what is the result of that sort of situation?

>> i mean, we really need to raise this to a higher level. this is starting to sound very juvenile and elementary. picking on each other or trying to pick at different facts. we're in the midst of a pandemic. which means one of the worst crises the human race will ever have, so it's very important that our leaders actually lead. and in order to lead, you need to all come together, both dr. fauci and president trump, it's time to put things aside and even if people were off or wrong or correct, who cares? we have to talk about today and tomorrow. and what we do know, which is a fact, is that the numbers are rising, and more people are going to die. so we really need to address this now. >> yeah. yeah, a lot of people saying there has been no national leadership all along, and that's creating its own problems. you mentioned the numbers. let's talk about those. just look at the state of florida, more than 15,000 new cases sunday, the highest of any state at all during the pandemic.

bigger than most countries, we should point out, today. what are your biggest concerns when you look at the overall covid landscape right now? >> the big concern is this is a train that once it starts moving, it's not something easy to turn around. it takes weeks, if we all come together, at best, to start slowing down. so when these numbers start getting out of hand, and we're seeing state after state after state go in that wrong direction, as a physician i'm extremely concerned. i'm concerned for human life. so i really need people to come together and just like you put shoes on when you leave the house, put that mask on. >> yeah, and, i mean, the problem is, you know, you do have -- the nation's top health experts and bodies like the cdc saying one thing, but then you've got the president saying or in some cases openly contradicting those experts. i mean, you said juvenile earlier.

i mean, it just strikes me that this can cost lives, right? >> not can, it will and it is. so every decision that we make when it comes to a pandemic, the consequence is death and disability. and just because it's not you or someone you know doesn't mean it's not happening, and don't wait until it's you or someone you know. this is a human problem. and we all have the ability to make rational, moral decisions. again, this not something that has anything to do with political party, color, or if you like somebody, you don't like somebody. it doesn't even matter what happened before this date, honestly. i don't really care because it's about right now and where we're headed from this point further. >> yeah. yeah. and as you said, what we do now is going to -- we're going to see the results of in several weeks. so, you know, you got the -- the administration pushing pretty hard for schools to reopen, even threatening to withhold federal funding to states who don't do

what they're told. what are your concerns about schools in session, especially in states with, you know, really alarming infection rates. everyone wants kids back to school, but when you look at places like texas, arizona, florida, georgia, for that matter, are you worried about that? >> i think, first, you said the right thing. everybody wants their kids to go back to school. we shouldn't even discuss that part. what we should discuss is how can somebody say, for example, everybody in the united states needs to take an umbrella out today. well, the true answer to that is, it depends, it depends how the weather is in your area. same analogy. it depends where the virus is peaking in your area. currently, however, we are going in such a bad direction that the entire nation is going in the wrong direction. having said that, once we start -- or hopefully get a handle on this, we will be able to make or address this concern in local areas according to where the virus is under control or not under control. very similar to how when you

watch the weather report that morning and you decide what you're going to do. >> yeah. yeah, not one size fits all. you know, in the broader picture, i was reading today about south korea. it's hard not to look back at a country like south korea, which had its first covid case the same day as the u.s. 50 million population versus 330 million, sure, but south korea's covid deaths are, like, 290. the u.s., 135,000. it is still stunning to make that comparison. i mean, i guess the history books will have to write about how that happened. >> yeah. and you know what? let's not be so proud to look over, you know, the seas and see how others are handling it. we did that initially. we watched how some suffered unfortunately with this virus first and learned some science from that and we able to prepare for that. we have to be humbled, if somebody is doing it better, we

have to learn and do it the same way. south korea seems like they're doing a great job. >> doctor, always great to see you. appreciate it. >> thanks, mike. despite the cases surging across the u.s., the white house is pushing an aggressive agenda to fully reopen schools in the weeks ahead. that, of course, as there is a fierce debate over how and when to resume classes and if it can be done safely for both students and educators. well, on sunday the u.s. secreta education secretary betsy devos and house speaker nancy pelosi appeared on "state of the union." pelosi responding with sharp rebulk. >> there is no -- nothing in the data that would suggest that kids being back in school is -- is dangerous to them. and, in fact, it's more a matter of their health and well-being that they be back in school. the reality is there is a way for those teachers to continue

to do what they do and every district, every state has the real opportunity to work with and figure out the best scenario for those teachers. >> should those teachers go in if they don't feel comfortable? >> and an older teachers -- that's something for them to work out with their local district. but it, again, that's the exception not the rule. the rule needs to be schools need to get open. kids need to go back to school. they need to be learning. teachers want to be there. >> i think what we heard from the secretary was malfeasance and dereliction of duty. this is appalling. they're messing, they're messing, the president and his administration are messing with the health of our children. it is -- we all want our children to go back to school. teachers do. parents do. and children do. but they must go back safely. >> as the u.s. debates the safety of returning students to class, some countries have already reopened their schools

successfully. others not so much. cnn's will ripley shows us what the u.s. might be able to learn from their successes and failures. >> this week for the rest of the school year they're closed after a spike in cases here in the territory. other countries like thailand are reopening, but with a whole new list of social distancing guidelines. >> reporter: students gather for assembly in thailand. their first day back to school since mid-march. there are new rules to go along with the new normal. educating in the time of coronavirus. first, the lineup. a pump of hand sanitizer. a full face visor. a temperature check and class is back in session.

one of this group's first lessons, how to keep their distance. makeshift cubicles made out of old ballot boxes help to keep students separated. one girl says she feels good studying behind the box. it makes her feel safer returning to school. before its reopening, thailand effectively contained the virus. its infection rate remains low, just over 3,200 confirmed cases. even though it was the first country outside of china to detect a case of covid-19. around the world other starts and stops. hong kong schools are closing again. it too restarted classes a month and a half ago. because of a new spike in cases, officials decided to start summer break early. one student says he just finished his exams and there was just one more week of classes to go, so not too much of a difference.

there have been similar rollbacks in beijing and parts of australia where officials opened up schools after a seemingly successful lockdown only to shut them again after a flare up of coronavirus. in global hot spots like south america, thousands of new cases every day. schools are closed with a few exceptions. most of uruguay's students have returned to class. it closed its borders early and it has about 1,000 total cases. unlike its much larger and denser neighbor brazil, which is topping 1.8 million. the remoteness of chile's easter island may have spared it the fate of the mainland. school recently resumed there. one student says it's an opportunity that's been given to them because on the continent it's not been possible to return to class because of the pandemic. an opportunity countries around the world are struggling to

manage as schools learn even after reopening there are no guarantees the virus won't return. >> in every country around the world except for the united states, there is not even a consideration to reopen schools until community spread of coronavirus is under control. that's why you've seen some schools open and then close again. like south korea, for example. it really depends how many cases there are in each particular school district. schools are switching from virtual learning to on the ground learning depending how many have the illness. of course social distancing, and hygiene, hygiene, hygiene. will ripley, cnn, hong kong. a team from the world heath organization has landed in china to investigate the origins of the coronavirus. let's bring in kristie lu stout in hong kong. a lot of people have been waiting for this, of course. tell us what they're going to be looking for and what help

they'll be getting. >> and also have to tell you, michael, we're waiting for an update. all day today our editorial teams have been chasing world heath organization to figure out what's happened over this mission over the weekend and yet to get a proper update. on friday the world heath organization did say a two-member advanced team was en route to china to set up an investigation to look into the origins of the coronavirus. and we know these two individuals are experts. one is an expert in animal health. the other is an epidemiologist. we know, again, that this is an advanced team. so they're there to set up and to determine sort of the agenda and also the scope and scale of the greater investigation. so this is still early days yet. and the w.h.o. did also say that they will try to get answers to two main questions. you know, number one, we know that the virus exists in bats, but is there an intermediate animal, is there another animal host that the virus went through? and secondly, and perhaps

critically here, how did this virus make that leap from animal to human? now, we know that the world heath organization has been under fire for its relationship with china. recently u.s. president donald trump said that he is withdrawing the united states from the world heath organization effective july of next year. because he argues that the w.h.o. is too close to china. the w.h.o. failed to ask hard questions of china, especially in the early days of this health crisis. but, you know, now the pressure is on. the pressure is on this two-member team that we understand are currently in china to see if they can get access to samples, data, files from chinese scientists and authorities, and also to get answers to find out the origin of this pandemic, which has taken the lives of so many people, 560,000 and more. back to you. >> all right. kristie lu stout there in hong kong. thanks. now, several u.s. marines on the japanese island of okinawa have tested positive for coronavirus. we're going to take you live to

japan next to see what officials are doing to contain the outbreak and what the locals think of it all.

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families at three different u.s. military facilities last week. and this is putting the troops between the japanese island of okinawa to the test time and time again. when there are accidents or crimes, this time it's being tested by a pandemic. it took days for the u.s. military to confirm the number on saturday, and they say these cases were counted within a period of five days last week. the governor of okinawa said he was shocked, shocked because okinawa has been virus-free or no new cases of covid-19 in okinawa for two months. and then the governor says he saw u.s. military personnel partying and he wants more information about these covid-19 cases. because they want to do better contact tracing. listening to the governor's comments, using words like very regrettable, it's clear that he walks a very fine tight rope between balancing the interests,

the security interests of japan, because washington is the bedrock of japan's security policy, and ensuring the health of his constituents. residents tell me that this time around -- around this time in okinawa, it's pretty busy because a lot of u.s. military personnel like to move their families in and out of the island timed to when the schools start in the u.s. around september. so, given explosive number of days that we're seeing on the mainland, the worry is mounting among residents of okinawa, michael. >> indeed. thanks so much. there in tokyo for us. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, disney parks reopening in florida despite what has been a sharp increase in virus cases there. but guests can expect quite a few changes because of the pandemic. we'll take a look when we come back.

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welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm michael holmes. you're watching "cnn newsroom." the u.s. bracing for another bruising week in the battle against the coronavirus. the latest figures showing a significant rise in new infections. all those states there in orange and dark red. on sunday, florida smashing the single-day record for new cases with more than 15,000 reported. meanwhile, the white house seems to be trying to discredit the country's top expert on infectious diseases. dr. anthony fauci has publicly disagreed with president trump and says the united states pandemic response has not been great. white house officials released a statement citing concern over what they called the number of times dr. fauci has been wrong.

>> joining me now is political analyst michael genovese. he's also the author of "how trump governs" and president of loyola marymount public institute. there is a populist aspect to president trump. this is a president who sees big issues, momentous issues like covid and racial upheaval as things happening to him, rather than to the country and, of course, he's always blameless. the question is, does that approach, what does it do to his standing? the polls was suggest it's not working. >> well, he does personalize everything, and i'm not sure that that's a function of his populism so much of his personality and his personality needs. but if you look at the, say, the populists who are governing around the world, bolsonaro in brazil, obrador in mexico, trump in the united states, left and right-wing populists, they tend

to be very good at throwing rocks into the stadium, but once they get inside and they have to govern, then they have trouble. you see all three of those populists in this hemisphere doing a terrible job of handling the pandemic. and so outsiders tend to be best when they're outside. now the populists are inside. and, you know, they really have not succeeded in dealing with the crisis within their own countries. >> you know, you -- i read where you said that donald trump basically has lost control of the narrative. and that does seem to be true. but explain what you mean. >> yes, he basically has lost his mojo. the things that he wants to talk about, that he used to talk about, strong economy, that's gone. he can't talk about those things anymore. and so he loves being the hammer and not the nail. right now he's the nail because he has been held responsible for policies dealing with the pandemic and the economy. things are going very poorly. and he doesn't like that.

he likes to be in command of things and he likes to be the hammer. so what he's done, he practicing a kind of missing in action leadership. he's an ostrich who puts his head in the sand when he caught to be dealing with the crisis and it's very, very visible right now. he's running away from the pandemic at a time when people are begging for leadership. >> i wanted to ask you about the commuting of the sentence of his friend roger stone. i mean, it's easy to be numb to a lot of the things this president has done, but how extraordinary is it for a president to commute the sentence of someone whose offense, in part, was lying to protect that president who does the commuting? i mean, on the face of it, it's pretty astounding. >> it's a bit mind-boggling, but you have to remember that the president has almost absolute power to pardon. it's one of the few things the president has constitutionally on his own. it doesn't mean it's always exercise responsibly. a number of presidents have mishandled and abused the pardon power. i think this a case in point. the formula is and the message

that trump is sending is, if you break the law in support of me, in aid to me, i'll take care of you. i've got your back. and, you know, that undermines the whole system of justice and the whole system of the rule of law. when you personalize it that much. and i don't know if he'll face a political fallout for this because maybe it's too small and the other issues are too big. but this really is a pernicious thing that's going on. and, you know, it -- it should probably have ramifications that it may actually not publicly. >> yeah, well, it sort of erases the boundaries of what you can and can't do with pardoning and commutation and stuff like that. we've only got a minute or so left. joe biden, you know, he's been focussing on battleground states. a lot of people say he should take advantage of polling well in places like florida, georgia, texas, red states. what do you think the democrats' strategy is going to be in the months to come? and in general, what's campaigning going to look like in a pandemic?

>> my advice to joe biden, if he asks for it, would be leave well enough alone. the basement campaign right now is producing results that you like. very positive. why would you shake that up? and if you need to change course, you'll have an opportunity to. so, for now, letting donald trump self-destruct has been probably the best strategy that joe biden can have during a pandemic. because you can't go out and do what joe biden does so well, pressing the flesh, meeting people, hugging people, you know, he's a very tactile politician. that has been eliminated in the pandemic. and so right now maybe less is more. maybe the less he does, the more people will focus on trump and find him lacking. >> yeah. a lot of -- hearing that more and more. michael, got to leave it there. michael genovese, thanks so much. good to see you. >> thank you, michael. the walt disney world resort in orlando, florida reopened two of its parks over the weekend. even as that state is seeing a surge in coronavirus cases.

guests welcomed back to the magic kingdom and the animal kingdom parks for the first time in almost four months. social distancing obviously encouraged, although judging by the line right there, might be tough to enforce all the time. the remaining two parks are set to reopen this week. cnn's eleni joins us. >> on the seem weekend you saw record numbers on coronavirus cases, disney opted to go ahead and open its flagship parks. what's interesting here is that the company has time and time again said, look, this is the new normal. this is our new reality. how do we resume business under these conditions? remember that disney is the single largest employer in the u.s. on one site, of 75,000 people. so imagine bring as these people back to work and then also dealing with the fact you've got

to ensure that people adhere to the new rules. so, for example, a mandatory mask-wearing. gone are the days where you can run up to mickey and give him a hug. no mask, no photograph. food is another big draw card and you've got restauranteers moving tables further apart. spraying down various rides and attractions and making sure you're controlling the flow of people constantly. i mean, i guess the question here is, what is the risk that people are taking on? now, disney see that interestingly they actually had a lot of demand and selling online tickets through to 2021. so demand is on the ground despite the fact that you've got coronavirus cases increasing. tracking and tracing here, michael, is going to be important. if you start to see cases rising and start to mention disney as one of the places that they visited. how is that going to impact the company? two more parks are going to be opening on wednesday. that is going to be interesting to see. and, remember, disney has actually opened other parks around the world and say they've done so successfully and safely.

>> all right. there in johannesburg. appreciate it. thanks very much. important for the disney business. okay. south africans are calling for action against the country's second pandemic as they're calling it. how women in the country are fighting to end gender-based violence and get justice for the lives taken by it. we'll have that when we come back.

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south africa fighting two pandemics in addition to the coronavirus. the country is experiencing a rise in violence against women. more than 2,700 women and 1,000 children killed last year, according to police. and south africa's president says more than half of the country's women have experienced violence at the hands of their partners. cnn's david mckenzie joins me now from johannesburg. i mean, that is just an extraordinary number. bring us up to date.

>> well, right now, by are we a the storm of the covid-19 pandemic, as the president calls it, with 1,200 cases roughly every day, that's 500 cases an hour. the president and others are talking about another pandemic, and it's women and girls that are most at risk. >> he kept her dead at his place behind a hay sack in the back with rubbish on top. >> reporter: in this corner behind the corrugated iron and concrete, neighbors found her granddaughter's body. when the smell became stronger and the stench of the garbage. >> when the people, what's going on, no, it's rubbish. i'm going to throw it away. that's the kind of person who was an animal. >> but why they didn't find this. >> reporter: he, the suspected killer, was her granddaughter's boyfriend.

and weeks ago when the police came to this shack, his shack, they didn't find her purse inside just feet away from where she was dumped. >> what does this tell you? >> it tells us that they're not doing their job. >> reporter: the police didn't respond to requests for comment and the prosecuting authority dropped the case against her suspected killer for lack of evidence. only taking it up again, the lead prosecutor told us, because of the public outcry. he is now in custody, formally charged with murder and awaiting trial. he is yet to plea. >> police must make their job very carefully because we're tired. we must do the work. we are scared because we don't know if we're going to meet with someone who is dangerous. we don't know. so we are not safe. justice must be served. we need that he be punished. >> the coronavirus pandemic -- >> reporter: in june south africa's president said the country is battling what he calls two pandemics.

>> violence is being unleashed on the women and children of our country. with a brutality that defies any form of comprehension. >> reporter: on an incomprehensible scale. there were nearly 180,000 violent crimes against women just last year. nearly 3,000 murders. according to official police statistics. >> this community calls for much-needed radical change with the urgency it deserves. >> reporter: but after decades of protests and promises of action, change hasn't come. daughters, mothers and sisters are still lost. and far too often, say gender rights activists, justice is delayed if it comes at all. >> is the state doing enough? >> not at all. i don't think they're serious about it. if they could deal with gbv,

gender-based violence, exactly the way they're dealing with covid-19, we'd be fine. >> reporter: her organization took on more than a dozen cases of gender-based violence in just the last week. they've supported victims from age 2 to well into their 70s. >> and it seems like there is almost a war on women in south africa. >> you can say that again. you can say that again. >> yeah. we're not safe. we go outside with fear. maybe it might happen to me. my sister who looks at me or my children. it's very hard. >> i know that this is still so raw for you. >> it is. it is. >> reporter: still difficult for her to find the words. >> i don't know what to say. i don't even know what to say. >> reporter: but she says it's important to try.

so her daughter's killing won't be ignored. >> why my daughter was killed like a dog. >> well that family, you know, their case is so horrific, but, michael, it's certainly not unique. there are cases every week like this, a woman murdered, rapeed, children even. and while the state is putting all its efforts into ending the covid-19 pandemic, activists say that, really, if they just put some of that effort into helping the women and children of this country, make the scourge of this violence against them could ease somewhat, but, you know, they are really pessimistic because for decades it just hasn't gotten any better. michael? >> the statistics are just staggering. david, appreciate your reporting. great reporting there. david mckenzie in johannesburg. we'll take a quick break. when we come back, an english premier league star speaks out against racism in football. why he says the online variety is actually worse than what he hears on the pitch. we'll be right back. when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage.

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president seen as an ally of the u.s. president donald trump. mr. duda faced a challenge from the more liberal center-right mayor of warsaw. he reached out to his more conservative, largely rural base with appeals to traditional values, especially in his opposition to lgbtq rights. again, poland's incumbent president duda has won another term. the nfl's washington redskins plan to announce on monday that they are changing the team's nickname. although reports say the new name itself isn't going to be revealed until a later date because of what they're calling trademark issues. the team did say earlier this month it would review the nickname redskins, which has long been criticized as being, of course, insensitive and offensive to native americans. the team facing pressure from corporate sponsors in recent days. fedex, which has naming rights to the team's stadium, has

called to a name change, and brands like nike and amazon have dropped redskins merchandise from their stories. a premier league football star says he finds online racism, quote, worse than racist incidents that happen inside stadiums on the pitch. the watford defender christian kabasele says that while all forms are reprehensible, sending monkey and banana emojis to players on social media means that somebody has taken the time to think about their message before sending it. kabasele spoke to "world sport" kareen wynter darren lewis back in march about the racism he's experienced and why he says social media platforms have failed to deal with incidents that he has reported in the past. >> when you're in the stadium, sometimes you are -- the fact that you are surrounded by other

person, you -- you just disconnect your brain and you do something stupid. but when you write -- when you write something on instagram or on twitter, you have time to think about what you are doing. and it's worse than something happening in a stadium. >> now, i know that you reported when you received the abuse. and you were quite shocked by the response. just talk us through that. >> yes. so i was abused in belgium during a game. and after i went to my instagram and i took a monkey picture and i put next to that picture a picture of myself and i was asking, am i looking as the same as -- as the monkey? and the -- i think the day after instagram deleted my post and

just said that i break the rules of instagram. that i was violent and i was spreading -- spreading violence and bad message on my instagram. so i should stop it. and it's quite, quite unbelievable because when i was abused again on instagram, i report the message that i received, and after their investigation, they find out that there were no violence message towards me and the accounts didn't break the rules. so it's quite -- it's quite amazing how you can have two -- two kinds of a reaction about this on various levels. it's unbelievable. yeah, it's difficult to understand and to believe.

but the truth, it didn't happen only once, several times. because that day i receive a lot of message, and, yeah, i reported maybe 10, 15 message, and for three, four of them, they said that they were not violence in the account that you reported. >> where do we go? what do we do with this? because i can't see a situation where this is going to stop. people are allowed to do all sorts of things on social media. >> yes, but i think the first step maybe it's to -- to obligate every person who is subscribing in instagram, twitter and all these kind of thing, to use their i.d. it's as simple as that. you put the -- all the details of your i.d. on instagram. if you do something bad, we know who is behind this kind of thing. and maybe it will -- it will --

it will make people think twice before making things like this. maybe that's the -- that's the first step. i don't know. >> now, when cnn contacted instagram for their comment, their media team responded saying that, quote, racism is not tolerated on instagram. when we find content that breaks our guidelines, we will remove it. and we will ban those who repeatedly break the rules. instagram added that they have new technology that, quote, allows public figures to prevent unwanted contact and control who messages them on instagram. we've also contacted twitter, the social media platform has not responded to our requests for comment. on that note, thanks for watching "cnn newsroom." appreciate you spending part of your day with me. i'm michael holmes. your day is about to get better because rosemary church picks it up from here.

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