carolan christine gann was 75 and a career nurse. her daughter is grateful to another nurse who was at carolann's side in the final hours to use her own cell phone to be sure they could face time their final good-byes because relatives weren't allowed to visit. may they rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. erin burnett outfront starts right now. >> the u.s. headed for another record day of cases with more states shutting back down. america going in the wrong direction as president trump is at odds with dr. anthony fauci. a new study suggests immunity from coronavirus antibodies may be incredibly brief. does this mean people who have the virus can get it again? plus the president says he is getting rave reviews for commuting roger stone's sentence, is it back firing with his own party? good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight the grim, new

milestone the number of coronavirus globally now 13 million and the number of deaths more than 570,000. in the united states, only 4% of the world's population, makes up nearly one-quarter of those deaths, 135,512 dead americans tonight. the number of the cases in this country headed for another single day record. as of tonight 35 states are going in the wrong direction in case count, too, including california the most populated state in the country just announcing rolling back measures today. and while dr. anthony fauci meantime and president trump are on completely different pages. >> here it is. it's happened. your worst nightmare. the perfect storm. it is truly historic. we haven't even begun to see the end of it yet. >> we haven't even begun to see the end of it. that is not the message president trump wants you to hear. he knows it reflects poorly on his leadership at this point and highlights a failure to get the pandemic under control.

that is why trump is yelling the opposite as loudly as he can and in this case the opposite is blatantly untrue. >> we test more than anybody by far and when you test you create cases so we've created cases. we have the lowest mortality or just about the lowest mortality in the world. we're doing a great job. >> as usual it is necessary to spend some time here putting facts out there because the president did not. first, the mortality rate. he says the best in the world or about. that is not true. the u.s. is the ninth worst mortality rate according to john hopkins. second, the claim that when you test you create cases is false. new cases are at a daily all time high, nearly 50,000 today. that vastly out paces any increase in testing. here are the numbers. since june 12 there has been a 37% increase in testing in the united states and over that exact same time frame the number of cases has gone up 152%. so the president's claim on testing is factually incorrect

as it has been every single time he has made it. and because he ma iks that claim, almost every single day, and it is corrected almost every single day on this program and others, at this point it is fair to say he is lying. he is not misinformed. he is not unaware. on this he is simply not telling the truth. his top doctor does tell the truth on the facts, the figures, the data. so even as trump's team tries to put out a list of mistakes fauci has made and trump publicly has slammed him we are left with the reality that fauci opens his mouth with facts and trump opens his mouth to say anything that makes the virus seem small and not a problem. >> well, i think we are in a good place. >> we're facing a serious problem now. >> we are almost up to 40 million in testing and 40 million people which is unheard of. >> i think what we do need is better screening, broader screening in the country to get a feel for really what the

penetrance of the infection is. >> you look at the deaths. deaths are way down. >> it is a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death. >> so we were able to close our country, save millions of lives, open, and now the trajectory is great. >> in some states we went from shutdown to complete throwing caution to the winds. >> talk about cognitive dissonance. this is much more than that. this is one person sharing facts and the other not. as for fauci's point about some states throwing caution to the wind take florida. a state the president praised for reopening when it did so without meeting the white house coronavirus task force guidelines. the state recorded more than 15,000 new cases yesterday which is the highest number in a single day for any state at any point during the entire pandemic. florida has more cases than most countries on the planet. more than 8,000 people are currently hospitalized in florida. infectious disease expert in miami saying, quote, miami is now the epicenter of the pandemic. what we were seeing in wuhan six months ago now we're there.

so when the president says we're doing a great job, what exactly does he mean? we'll go outfront near the white house to begin our coverage tonight. even as we laid out, as i said, the facts and fiction here, the trump administration is going out of its way now to discredit fauci who is the top infectious disease doctor in the country in charge of this. >> i think that is really one of the big takeaways for people sitting at home wondering when they are going back to work or when schools are going to reopen and if it is safe to send kids back. you were seeing people inside the white house go behind dr. fauci's back and distribute this anonymous list of things that he said publicly several months ago compared to what he is saying now. things like when he initially said there wasn't guidance to wear masks, something the surgeon general also said and told people do not go out and buy masks yet those statements weren't included in the list the white house sent around over the weekend and neither were the many false claims of the

president himself that he made about the virus like the one about testing you just pointed out. it has been pounted out to him many times by his own health officials that is just not the case. we've seen this for months. the white house tried to deny there is any kind of tension between president trump and dr. fauci. they say they get along when they're in person. there's never raised voices in the same room. it is pretty clear what is happening here and they are trying to undermine dr. fauci at times by distributing statements like this that he made and then denying today at the press briefing they were doing that. you know, it is one thing to do it and to just say you did it but they are denying they are actually pushing this out there and saying they are just answering questions when they're not. it was on background. it was not attributed to any official inside the communications shop. this comes as you've seen several television programs including cnn say they tried many times to get dr. fauci to come on air so they could do an interview to only be rejected by the white house.

he is doing some of the print interviews like the one last week where he revealed he had not briefed the president in over two months. it does reveal this gulf between the president and one of his top health advisers no matter how much the white house is trying to deny that anything is happening there. >> all right. thank you very much. i want to go now to our dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner director of the cardiac katherine lab at gw also advised president george w. bush's medical team for eight years in the white house. the white house has been making a concerted effort to discredit dr. fauci. the president and fauci haven't spoken in months. fauci has been left -- we just saw him at this panel, these sort of panel events think tanks or universities are holding. that is the only way we hear from him not in interviews on television. how much does this concern you right now? >> it is very destructive. if you're trying to get the public to believe a fantasy you have to discredit the truth tellers and that is what the president is doing. over the last few months, the

white house coronavirus task force has really been pushed to the side. a lot of the initial functions of the task force in terms of coordinating a nationwide response have been out sourced to the states. so the states are primarily responsible for testing now. although the cdc and the federal government issued guidelines, really careful guidelines for opening the statements. the states were given the authority to open on their timeline and the president tacitly encouraged them to speed that up. we've also heard that from people like jared kushner that the strategic national stockpile is for the federal government's use not for the states' use. so in some ways the coronavirus task force has become marginalized and when you see the leader of the task force discredited by the president, it is for a purpose. >> sanjay, dr. fauci said about coronavirus today, you know, we haven't even begun to see the end of it yet.

and he said that this is clearly the most challenging public health crisis he has ever dealt with in his many decades career which included hiv, anthrax, zika, ebola. but the president obviously doesn't care. one of the comments the white house pointed to from fauci as they've been trying to discredit him was this one. >> right now at this moment there is no need to change anything you're doing on a day by day basis. >> that was of course very early on. then he went on, sanjay, to say this. this is what they left out. this is what he then said. >> right now the risk is still low but this could change. i've said that many times even on this program. you have to watch out because although the risk is low now you don't need to change anything you're doing. when you start to see community spread, this could change and force you to become much more attentive to doing things that would protect you pr spread.

>> that was in february. nbc still promoting the olympics. okay? he said if you see community spread this is all going to change. guess what? we saw community spread. he was very clear as to what would happen for him to change his point of view. they left that part out. how harmful is this effort to discredit fauci? >> it is really worrisome. you know, i think obviously the briefings went away. that took away a certain seriousness. i think if the briefings went away a lot of people thought this thing is essentially over. the states are starting to reopen. the briefings have stopped. at the same time our reporting, we knew people were saying as you pointed out it wasn't that people were necessarily mad at fauci. he just reminded them of the pandemic so it was an out of sight out of mind situation for a while. now there is this active sort of very unfair -- these chop edit sort of things being released to make him look bad. the country is confused. there's a lot of whip lash going on. people still think, there is still a segment of the population that think this is a hoax or over whatever it may be.

if they discredit fauci who is saying hey we are still in the early days of this, it's harmful. we're not going in the right direction. we know that. we see the numbers. this makes it even worse. >> here is what the president said today on testing in full. >> we test more than anybody by far. and when you test you create cases. we've created cases. it is a big factor that we have a lot of cases because we have a lot of testing. far more than any other country in the world. and it's also the best testing. >> as i made the point you don't create testing -- cases by testing number one, dr. reiner. new cases are vastly out pacing any increase in testing. number two, we're not testing enough. right? we know that. number three, quest diagnostics admitted tonight it is taking more than seven days for nonpriority tests. the former white house chief of staff mick mulvaney came out today and said we still have a problem in this country because it took his son five to seven days to get results. his daughter couldn't even get a test. according to the "new york times" only 12 states actually meet the testing target.

florida, texas, arizona, california, epicenters? none of them -- none of them meet the testing criteria. how big of a problem is testing right now? >> it's a big problem. all around the united states we're seeing these significant lags in the return of tests. so you can imagine if you're trying to contain a virus and you go for a test and it takes a week to get the results back, you don't really have the ability to quarantine that person until they know they have the test. you would hope they would do it anyway but it doesn't work that way often. look, the president either lacks the cognitive ability to understand how tests work during a pandemic, or he is intentionally misinforming the public. either way it is unacceptable. it is like telling the country if we did half the number of mammograms we'd have half the amount of breast cancer. it doesn't work that way. and the big difference using that analogy is that in this case the people that you don't diagnose are giving the disease to somebody else.

actually on average about two other people. so the president really has to stop repeating that nonsense. it is nonsense and very destructive. >> right. >> it creates this sense that testing is unneeded and over rated. >> right. it does. it absolutely does. and sanjay the president went on today to retweet a tweet. but in this tweet he accused a whole lot of people of lying so let me just see. it said the most outrageous lies are the ones about covid-19. everyone is lying. the cdc, media, democrats, our doctors. not all but most that we are told to trust. i mean, let's take a deep breath here. he is accusing doctors of lying. i don't know for what purpose but just accusing them of going out and lying. i want to make it clear the cdc had no comment today about when the president spoke with dr. redfield. obviously he says they are lying as well. you know, what do you make of this? >> it's very destructive. i called the cdc. i called my source at the cdc

after the president retweeted that and said am i missing something here? are they referring to something in particular? they have no idea why that tweet went out. why the president retweeted it. it's a real problem. and, you know, we are in the biggest public health crisis of our lifetime and this is the sort of stuff that's going out there. i mean, i feel for the people who are confused to some extent by this now. it's confusing if you're being told by the president that the doctors trying to give you the scientific information are lying. that's what he accused them of today. so i -- it is not a medical story, erin. >> it is not. unfortunately, it has become a political story with deep, medical implications of life and death for many and that is the true tragedy. thank you both very much. next, the mayor of houston pleading with the governor to shut back down. plus -- >> schools should be open. kids want to go to school.

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tonight the largest state in the country shutting back down.

california governor gavin newsom closing indoors restaurants, bars, movie theaters across the state and in the hardest hit counties shutting down gyms, salons, malls, and places of worship. the mayor of houston making an urgent plea to the governor of texas to shut down that state as well. erica hill is "outfront." >> reporter: california shutting down again as cases skyrocket. >> we are now effectively, rather effective today, requiring all counties to close their indoor activities, indoor operations in the following sectors -- restaurants, wineries, tasting rooms, movie theaters, and the shuttering of all bars. this is in every county in the state of california. >> reporter: miami's mayor warning his city could be next. florida reporting more than 15,000 new cases on sunday. more than any state in a single day since the pandemic began. >> we have to get control of these numbers. these numbers are out of control. >> reporter: it is not just florida and california.

the majority of the country is moving in the wrong direction. >> i think the lesson to be learned in texas is you cannot open up the economy in ways that look like the economy was open before. >> reporter: 19 states posting their highest seven day average for new cases on sunday. hospitalizations are up. icu beds a growing concern. >> we are at an icu capacity of 103% and then if you just carve out the covid icu, it is 180%. that is a 26% increase from last monday. >> reporter: atlanta now moving back to phase one which includes a stay-at-home order the mayor joining new york governor andrew cuomo today. >> he told us very clearly if we didn't do things differently in our cities and states we would find ourselves in the same situation that new york was facing and, unfortunately, you were correct. >> there are things you can do now -- physical distance,

wearing a mask, avoiding crowds, washing hands. those things as simple as they are can turn it around. >> reporter: in the nation's former epicenter there is one bright spot. for the first time in months, new york city did not have a single covid-19 related death. >> it's something to make us hopeful but it is very hard to take a victory lap because we know we have so much more ahead. >> erica, just looking at the point about new york, no death today for the first time in months. mayor de blasio there sounding a note of caution. i know there are concerns about new infections. what do you know about that? >> reporter: absolutely. in fact, he said specifically he is worried about 20 to 29-year-olds and the spread there and the governor saying very clearly this virus can travel. it is coming into the state. he put out an emergency health order today to enforce the 14-day quarantine which impacts

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president trump doubling down on reopening schools as the pandemic worsens tonight. >> reporter: schoo-- >> schools should be opened. kids want to go to school. you're risking a lot of lives by keeping things closed. >> the two largest schools in california announcing they'll stick with online learning in the fall. other hot spots like florida are mandating schools reopen. upfront now a teacher in broward county in florida which has the

second largest number of hospitalizations in the state and of course your state currently more cases than anywhere in the world. i know your district still has not made a decision on whether you'll reopen even though obviously there is an order from the state to do so. do you feel ready to return to your classroom? >> i do not, erin, and i feel like with speaking to my colleagues we all feel the same way. we're very fearful of going back into the classroom at this time with the surge in cases in the state of florida especially in southern florida where we are. you know, we had a reported surge over the weekend with record breaking cases more so than even in new york city during their -- their worst numbers when they had their surge, and we currently have 17,000 children diagnosed in florida with the coronavirus

today. >> those children of course could be in schools. you know, we're learning and i know you saw this, cheryl, this horrible story, this teacher in arizona who died from the virus. she was teaching summer school. they were open and she shared a classroom with two other teachers who also became infected. and she died. they say they were all doing everything the way they were told to. they were wearing masks, social distancing. look, this is a tragedy and i know you've thought about it yourself. you've talked to your fellow teachers about it. i mean, what are they saying? >> that is such a tragedy, that story, and we all are just -- our fear is we don't know what we don't know. every day we're learning something new about this virus. and i, personally have lost sleep over it. i cried over it. i cry over it a lot. it's very, very scary.

when we closed our schools in march, we had about 11 cases. and we didn't know we weren't going back. but within a week, we took our spring break and we flipped our classroom into an online learning platform. and we made it work. the one thing i am going to say, i will say online learning is not ideal. but it will keep our children safe. >> so i know you teach pre-k. i have one of my children just finished pre-k. i understand what you are saying here. you've said it will be impossible to do very basic things like wear masks. you know, it is obvious to anyone who has dealt with children that age but to those who don't perhaps it isn't. do you think age should factor into whether children should return to school? because at certain ages they can't social distance. they can't wear masks or anything else. >> i think that there are special populations that make it

more difficult for children to wear masks. the younger children, would be very difficult. we're in a very daunting position in those younger grades. it is not just kindergarten. pre-k. it is our kindergarten and first graders. some still can't blow their nose without assistance. they can't help but sneeze. i've mentioned i've been sneezed on, coughed on, thrown up on. you know, it is something teachers endure and we love our babies and we -- it's just never been deadly. the next time someone coughs in my face it could be deadly. and no teacher, no student should be put at risk like that. we have too many things every day we're learning something new. is it airborne? are there aerosols in the air? you know, we have, since schools reopened here for essential employees like cutsians and office staff and administrators we've had over 70 cases of

positive covid tests, people testing positive. and there are no students in those classrooms yet. >> cheryl, i appreciate your time. i'm sorry about the delay. i don't mean to jump on you. i really appreciate your time and honesty. thank you so much. >> thank you. you heard cheryl talk about her situation in florida. i want to go to professor joseph allen back with me, his group at harvard wrote a 60-page plan on how to reopen schools safely. you've said if the things you put out there were adhered to you would want to send your kids back to school. you just heard that teacher i spoke to, though. her husband is vulnerable. he is terrified to go back. she is talking about the things that change every day, infections that happened even before the schools reopened when they started having custodial staff come in. what do you say when you hear that? >> thanks for having me back on, erin. the first thing is thank you to the teachers. i have three kids and i know the teachers have the most important job in the world.

i see it first hand every day. i also understand the anxiety teachers have. i really do. what i'd say is they need to demand more from our country and also all of their districts to put in the control measures we know work. you heard fauci talk about these. the basics of hand washing, distancing where you can, mask wearing but, also, healthy building control strategies that are not always thought about. for example, more fresh outdoor air. better filtration. the use of portable air cleaners. these are evidence based strategies that we write about in the report. look, i think, you know, trump is out there blurting these things out. same with devos, same with pence. the reality is we have to follow the scientists. follow the faucis out there. look for the science. the science is actually quite good and tells us there is a way to keep adult and kids safe in schools if -- if this country has the will to put in the control strategies that are necessary. this is not schools as usual in august and september. it has to be different. >> so even in new jersey where

currently numbers have improved, one nurse who serves in the state's committee to reopen schools told the "new york times" and i quote her, i'll just say it, it feels like we're playing russian roulette with our kids and our staff. what do you say to that, to a sizable group of people, parents, teachers who ask why the rush? >> i'd say if you think about your role as playing russian roulette and you're on a committee to reopen schools you probably shouldn't be on that committee because nobody should be playing russian roulette with teachers, kids, or administrators. what i am talking about in our report are scientific based strategies to keep kids and adults safe that can be put in place. this is not russian roulette. i've done forensic investigations of sick buildings for over a decade including schools where kids and adults had been getting sick. we know how to put controls into schools to keep people safe. this is not a chance. we're not rolling the dice here. but we are rolling the dice if we just say we'll go back to schools the way we've done it in

the past. that can't be the case either. we have to, have to put in these stringent controls. >> professor allen, thank you very much. good to have you on again. >> thanks for having me, erin. next a new study suggests coronavirus antibodies could start fading within weeks. so does this mean people can get the virus more than once? and the president trying to muzzle his niece who is out with the tell all. it comes out tomorrow. a new ruling tonight says he cannot keep her quiet. home instead has helped seniors stay home. now, staying home isn't just staying in the place they love. it's staying safe. home instead. to us, it's personal.

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tonight immunity may not last. a new uk study suggests those infected with coronavirus could see their immunity decline within months. with antibodies starting to fade 20 to 30 days following the first sign of symptoms coming on the heels of a spanish study which suggests the antibodies disappear after a few weeks. all of this of course raising questions about how protected you are once you've had it against getting it again. up front now william hazeltine former professor at harvard medical school and the school of public health and author of "a family guide to covid." i appreciate your time. you have been looking at studies

like these. how significant are these sorts of conclusions? >> these are very significant for the future of this epidemic. what they show is something we suspected but had not really known until now and that is this, like its sister coronaviruses, the ones that give us colds, are very different from the childhood viruses. those things like measles and mumps you get them once and you're protected for life. we know with the cold viruses it is different. you get them and you forget them. your body forgets they were ever infected and they come back and get you again every year. you can be reinfected by the same cold virus every year and get the same cold. we didn't know that was happening with this virus but there was an early study from china and now there are two studies. one from spain and one from the uk that actually measures the virus in people and the antibodies and watch the immunity decline. that is what we were afraid of. >> obviously the time frames they're talking about are incredible. a few weeks, 20 to 30 days. we've all been told you may only get a few years of immunity but

it was assumed you would have some. this is really quite different than what people had been hearing. you know, professor, one clinic in new york city in the neighborhood that was particularly hard hit by the virus had 68% of its antibody tests come back positive. obviously those are people who actually went in and got the tests. it wouldn't be 68% of the whole community having had it but it was a lot and it had people talking about herd immunity, right? once you tibet get to herd immut is essentially the same as vaccinating everybody and you're good. this thing is gone. you say herd immunity will never likely be achieved for this coronavirus. how come? >> well, first of all, herd immunity depends on long lasting immunity. if it doesn't exist, you can't get herd immunity. so we don't have herd immunity for the cold viruses that are coronaviruses. we know that already. this looks just like its brothers and sisters except a lot nastier. it doesn't look different in the sense it makes your immune

system react any more strongly. your immunity seems to fade away. in fact, we knew from the very beginning your immunity was odd with this virus because some people get over it and you can't find any antibodies. so it is a very strange virus that is messing with our immune system in very interesting and unusual ways but ways that are very concerning for anybody who thinks that herd immunity is a good idea. it isn't and it won't happen. individually that means if you had it, you have to be just as careful as if you didn't have it because you might get it again and it might cause exactly the same disease as it caused the first time or worse. >> which, okay. so look. this is all really sobering. what does it mean, then, i guess you're left with therapies that may work but also this concept of a vaccine. and so many people are now just betting on a vaccine as a sure thing and a matter of time and even in this country, hundreds of millions of doses ready by the end of the year even before they found out if the vaccines work because they want to be sure they're ready if they do

work. do you think a vaccine will work? obviously we don't have one for the other coronaviruses. they are not as deadly. we never felt the need to. do you think a vaccine is a sure thing or not? >> it is definitely not a sure thing but it is also not a sure thing that it won't work. i tell you, it gets a little complicated. when a virus is messing with your immune system. it has its own tools. it goes in, it changes your immune system. when it leaves it doesn't leave much trace. a vaccine doesn't have all of those tools. a vaccine is just a tiny part of the virus. most of the time. and so it might not do that. on the other hand, if you have a -- the virus comes in and uses its tools to make you forget you ever saw the virus it could be a different situation. we're left again with an uncertainty and one thing we all hate is uncertainty. but that is our life today. >> all right. professor hazeltine i appreciate your time. thank you.

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breaking news a judge in new york ruling president trump's niece is free to promote her tell all book about the president which publishes tomorrow. it comes after the trump family tried to block the book arguing it violated a nearly 20-year-old confidentiality agreement signed by mary trump. john kasich former governor of ohio and our senior commentator. governor the president tried to block the book but it is publishing tomorrow. her restraining order has been lifted. can't believe we're using words like this about a book. this is it. michael cohen the former lawyer of the president is in jail following a dispute over his book. they said if you stop writing it

we'll let you stay out. he said no so he is back in. does this president take muzzling critics to a different level? >> you know, no one wants their family writing a book or telling tales on them, so i can understand why they're concerned about it. i mean, in terms of mary trump, it just illustrates that, unfortunately, and sadly, the dysfunction that exists inside of that family. you know, i wrote a book after i had run against donald trump called "two paths" and the one thing i didn't want to do was use that book to just trash him. i didn't. i can state my opinions and my disagreements with him but i don't want to get into the trashing mode. frankly i haven't read any of those books. i have other books i'm reading and you only have so much time in life to read and those are not the books that i'm spending my time on to be honest with you, erin. >> so the president was asked earlier about roger stone and whether his decision to commute the sentence of roger stone, right, a long time political

confidante kind of inner circle in that sense for the president as to whether his decision to commute this undermined law enforcement because a jury of our peers in this country convicted him. this is what the president said. >> i'm getting rave reviews for what i did for roger stone. roger stone was treated very unfairly in my opinion. >> rave reviews. is that what you're hearing from people in your party? obviously i know people like mitt romney have spoken out just one example. >> yeah, not many people are talking about this but i don't think this is a game changer nor is the mary trump book a game changer in terms of electoral votes. i mean, when you think about roger stone, and the fact that this was commuted, the trump people are probably saying, great. because of the russia investigation was a hoax and other people are just paying no attention to it. and the same is true with mary trump. i think in that case people, you know, who like him are going to just say she's crazy and the people that don't, that is not

what is going to change things. what's changed things here in my view, erin, is the fact that he has bungled the coronavirus and continues to even today. even at this point. even attacking fauci. this is very personal to people. this is not some amore fouse book on the best seller list. this is about my health, my life, my family. and i think he's blown that. the same is true on the issue of race. but i must tell you as i got a new bicycle today. i look people are going to leave trump because of these things, the question is will they cross the rubicon and vote for biden. >> you've talked about the flags. i've seen a lot more flags this time than last and i don't know whether those are people who show how they feel and felt that way last time but i hear you on that. the point about coronavirus that you make, in places key to

trump's reelection, you have seen a surge now. we'll see what happens in a couple months, it comes back down, depends where you are on the curve. joe biden is leading in florida 48-42. trump up one point in texas tied with biden in arizona, majority of voters saying efforts to contain the virus are going badly. is this a wakeup call for him at al all? >> i don't really know if he'll say okay, this is a problem. i saw he wore a mask and a doctor i talked to today said it was good he did it. i don't think he's leveling with people about this and i think in those states, first of all, he'll win texas. but if you have to spend time in texas, you really have a problem. what joe biden has to be careful of, erin, is this, if people think that, you know, aoc will run the country and have some hard left agenda if joe biden wins, that's a real problem. that is what trump is going to

seize upon to try to get reelected. biden has to diffuse that because people are saying okay, i don't like trump but wow, you mean i got to cross over and vote for a democrat in joe biden and they will be radical and he has to calm that down. his people have to settle that down. his people don't want hard left. they like things that are pretty much in the middle. they don't like trump, many people don't like him but the problem is biden is going to have to let people know who he is and he's going to come across as a measured and thoughtful guy who can bring the country together. >> governor, as always, thank you. next can trump keep his former attorney general jeff sessions from getting his old senate seat back? he's trying. we'll see because election day is now hours away. (vo) verizon knows how to build unlimited right. start with america's most awarded network. give people more plans to mix and match at a price built for everyone. with $700 off our best phones when you switch. because everyone deserves the best. this is unlimited built right.

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up for the old senate seat and jeff zeleny is "outfront". >> reporter: jeff sessions never lost a political race. >> what i'm saying to the people of alabama is i can represent you best. >> reporter: yet in the fight to get his old job back as senator from alabama he's the clear under dog. a republican primary against former auburn football coach would be hard enough. >> jeff sessions quit on the president and failed alabama. >> reporter: but made harder when the enemy is president trump. >> jeff sessions was a disaster as attorney general. >> reporter: the president still carries a grudge against sessions for accusing himself from the russia probe. he's been tweeting about the senate race including this weekend with the president fuming we don't want him back in washington. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: the alabama senate race is all about trump. >> i'll keep fighting for president trump and his agenda.

>> god sent us donald trump because god knew we were in trouble. >> reporter: in deep red alabama, loyalty to trump is paramount. >> welcome to my hometown. >> reporter: and sessions reminds voters five years ago he was one of the only u.s. senators to take seriously trump's white house bid but through more than a million dollars in tv ads, tubberville is blasting sessions and locker room talk, for being weak. >> you're either strong or you're not and jeff sessions, he's not. he wasn't man enough to stand with president trump when things got tough. >> reporter: sessions has returned fire. >> this is no fresh face. this is a 65-year-old former football coach who finished 4-8 at cincinnati and was terminated. this person does not have a record of political conviction. >> reporter: sessions drawing criticism last week for a comment he made about henry

lewis gates junior, the celebrated black harvard scholar. sessions called him some criminal in a "new york times" magazine story referring to a 2009 incident where gates was wrongfully arrested trying to enter his home. president obama later invited the professor and the police officer to the white house for a beer summit. watching it is doug jones d democratic senator. in november, it's still an uphill battle for democrats to hold the seat. the republican run off will test trump's ability to influence a race or show whether old loyalties hold more value. >> donald trump is not on the ballot this time. the charge between jeff sessions and tommy tubberville. >> reporter: campaigning on the eve of the election, sessions said people of alabama will decide the race, not those in washington so certainly a dig there at the president but it is the president standing here that is also on the ballot. it will be a test to see if he can pull tubberville over the

finish line. erin? >> jeff, thank you very much. thanks very much to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" with anderson starts now. and good evening. the coronavirus outbreak in this country is bigger now than it's ever been. i want to repeat that. the outbreak in this country is bigger now than ever before, nearly twice as big as ever before. the president likes to be number one, he can certainly take responsibility for this number one ranking. instead of doing something about it, the most powerful man on earth is doing everything he can to divide people and make them doubt his own scientists and marginizi marginizing. dr. anthony fauci who warned how bad things could get, the white house is smearing him as though he was a political opponent. think about that. the white house is working hard to smear the nation's top scientis h