tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 13, 2020 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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and good evening. the coronavirus outbreak in this country is bigger now than it it's ever been. i just want to repeat that. the outbreak in this country is bigger now than ever before. nearly twice as big as ever before. the president likes to be number one. he can certainly take responsibility for this number-one ranking. the most powerful man on earth has been doing everything he can to divide people, make them doubt their own scientists and their recommendations. and now, he is marginalizing and trying to knee cap the most trusted public health official on the subject. dr. anthony fauci, the same scientist who warned how bad things could get. the white house is now smearing him as though he were some kind of political opponent. just think about that. the white house is working hard to smear the nation's top scientist, who's been working nonstop to inform people and save people's lives. meantime, the president is embracing and promoting conspiracy theories and doubling
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down on falsehoods that might make him femael better, for som sick reason. but getting hundreds of people killed, every single day. here he is outright deceiving. >> when you test, you create cases. so we created cases. at the same time, we have the lowest mortality, or just about the lowest mortality in the world. we're doing a great job. >> keeping him honest. for the thousandth time, that is just a bold-faced lie. the rate at which tests are coming back positive has been rising. so has the number of people being hospitalized. as for new deaths per day, take a look. the pink one is the european union with 100 million more people. so no, we don't have the lowest mortality in the world. and our number is rising. it's not as high as it was in april, thank goodness, because of better treatments and more young people being infected. but deaths lag behind hospitalization and hospitalization lags behind positive test results and both have been skyrocketing. new confirmed cases in this
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country are now averaging more than 60,000 a day. that's about double the previous peak back in april. you can see, we, as a country, never got a handle on this. we were not able to do what europe did and drive cases down to the point they truly could reopen their economies. we never did what south korea did, from the very beginning of their outbreak. that scale on the right, by the way, is new daily cases. not in tens of thousands or thousands but in hundreds. it shows that south korea, a country of 51 million people, has had about 13,500 cases, total. total. since the virus first got there. by contrast, the state of florida, less than half the population, reported 12,624 cases, since yesterday. >> so right now, we're at icu capacity of 103%. and then, if you just carve out the covid icu, it's at 180%. that's a 26% increase from last monday.
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>> that florida hospital executive is not alone in seeing what she is seeing. as we speak, more than 8,000 floridians are now hospitalized. miami-dade county, hospitalization rates have risen 116%, again, since yesterday. in neighboring broward county, they're up 279%. california today reported more than 8,000 new cases. governor ordered all counties to stop indoor activities in the state's biggest school system in los angeles announced that all classes will be only online in the fall semester. in texas, with hospitalization climbing, the governor who once boasted of reopening the state early, is now warning, quote, things will get worse, in the week ahead. he's a diehard trump republican, by the way. but he has ears and eyes and enough sense to use them. as does california's governor, who is a staunch opponent of the president. and while governor abbott isn't apologizing profusely for reopening the state too soon, he is adapting to a bad situation
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for the people of his state. he is facing facts. the president is not. have not attended his own task force meetings for months. i mean, can you imagine this? the commander in chief has not attended his own task force meetings since april, according to our kaitlan collins. not spoken to dr. fauci for weeks, he now seems to be silencing the one person americans trust more than anyone else on the outbreak. the way the president apparently sees it, people trust dr. fauci. people don't trust the president. therefore, dr. fauci must be silenced or discredited and that he is that's what they are doing right now. the president, as you know, has been trash talking him for weeks. however, this weekend, the smearing in earnest really began in the middle of a growing pandemic naturally. one of dr. fauci's fellow task force members, assistant health secretary, spoke up. >> i respect dr. fauci a lot. but dr. fauci is not 100% right. and he, also, doesn't necessarily -- and he admits that -- have the whole national interest in mind.
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he looks at it from a very narrow public-health point of view. >> he looks at it from a very narrow public health point of view. that uniform, by the way, and the title that guy has. admiral. he's not a navy admiral. he looks like -- it's a navy uniform. but he's not in the navy. he's not served in the navy. he's not an admiral. he's an admiral of the u.s. public health service commission corps. they get to wear uniforms, too. and it's fascinating. a "washington post" report on that admiral's vaccine research when he worked at texas a and m university cites the local paper which obtained his evaluation after his firing. among other things, says he apparently got low remarks for being a team player. he was told he could either resign or be fired and he resigned. sure seems like he is on the team now. on the trump team. the man who appointed him to this job. he was in the private sector before this. his remarks followed a statement on saturday. a white house official, who had
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neither the courage nor the decency to be named, told cnn that, quote, several white house officials are concerned about the number of times dr. fauci has been wrong on things. the official went on to write a long list of examples, including this from late february. >> at this moment, there is no need to change anything that you're doing on a day-by-day basis. >> that was february 29th. now, when he said that, five people had died in this country. still, you might think the nameless official wants you to think dr. fauci wasn't taking it seriously. by the way, that was february 29th. the end of february. that's the lost month, for the white house. by their own admission and their own surveys of how great a job they've done, february's the lost month. you might, until you didn't hear anything from the president february about this except for him talking about how it's just going to magically vanish. but don't tell you about what fauci said on that very same program, you might not understand what he was saying because they didn't give the whole sound bite.
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here are his words which came next, what the white house didn't mention. >> right now, the risk is still low. but this could change. i've said that, many times, even on this program. you've got to watch out because, although the risk is low now, you don't need to change anything you're doing. when you start to see community spread, this could change and force you to become much more attentive to doing things that would protect you from spread. >> well, community spread was identified shortly thereafter and public health officials soon stopped telling people that it was business as usual. the white house and the president, lately, also point to dr. fauci's initial opposition to mask wearing which is, i mean, ironic, i guess, as a word. completely hypocritical. that's nor phras that is another phrase. coming from the president, who's only worn a mask once in public. what they don't mention is the initial fear was that hospitals
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would not have enough masks, which was correct. that the science back then was more focused on the mask protects the person wearing it, not everyone else around them. as science evolved, to did the scientific advice from dr. fauci and others. the same can't be said about the president, who's been consistently wrong on the facts. consistently, from the beginning, and to this day. and you don't hear white house officials say, wow, we're worried about how many wrong things the president has said. no, they're just smearing fauci by saying that. that's where we are. it's where we have always been. it's where we were when the president talked about putting disinfectants inside people's bodies. testing disinfectants on human beings. and the experts around him. they either fidgeted and cringed, like dr. deborah birx did. pretending she wasn't even there. or nodded their heads and promised to slavishly get right on it, like the guy did to her right, not on camera. he told officials to slow down testing and spokespeople said he was just joking and then the president said, actually, no, i don't joke.
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it's where we were when he said the virus is 99% harmless. and people like the vice president said, oh, you know what? he's just so -- he's just a positive optimist. he's just looking on the bright side. >> well, look. the american people know president trump is an optimist. he believes in this country. but he, also, believes the american people deserve to have the whole story. >> he just lies with a straighter face than the president. you get the point. whether the quietly cringing yessing him off or licking his boots, the president has no shortage of enablers. but dr. anthony fauci hasn't been one of them. he's tried to be diplomatic. perhaps, stay in the arena and consider being useful. he's never shied away from putting the facts first, even if they clashed with the president. take a look. >> we've done a great job, whether it's ventilators or anything you want to look at. >> as a country, when you compare us to other countries, i don't think you can say we're doing great.
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i mean, we're -- we're just not. >> we have some areas where we're putting out the flames or the fires. and that's working out well. >> right now, if you look at the number of cases, it's quite disturbing. we're setting records, practically, every day of new cases. >> we test so many people that we have more cases. everybody says we have so many cases. that's because we test so many people. >> even though the numbers look good, and this is the thing that is a little bit concerning. say, well, we now have 37 million tests have been performed. when you get on the phone and talk to the people in the community, there are still lapses there where the dots are not being connected. >> i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. >> to my knowledge, none of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. that just is a fact. in fact, we will be doing more testing. >> what we do have is we have, perhaps, the lowest, but among the lowest, but perhaps the
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lowest mortality rate, death rate, anywhere in the world. >> it's a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death. >> we are going to be in two, three, four weeks, by the time we next speak, i think we are going to be in very good shape. >> i would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day, if this does not turn around. i think it's important to tell you and the american public that i'm very concerned because it could get very bad. >> and it certainly has. so who, exactly, is the president listening to? well, the admiral's still being allowed to appear on television and he threw dr. fauci under the bus very quickly. remember, not a navy admiral. a public health admiral, who gets to wear a uniform. he was the one actually supposedly the testing czar charged with the diagnostic testing. well, we all know how well that's been going. so who has donald trump's ear? well, we got a hint this morning when he retweeted this conspiracy theory. quoting now.
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everyone is lying. the cdc. media. democrats. our doctors. not all but most that we are told to trust. i think it's all about the election, and keeping the economy from coming back, which is about the election. i'm sick of it. and who said that? where, might you ask, is that load of crap coming from? presi states of america decided to endorse, by retweeting this morning. what authority, what world authority, what medical authority, or public health authority? none other than chuck woolery. yeah. chuck woolery. the former game-show host. that says it all. even as he undermines the most experienced, most trusted man in public health today, he is passing on conspiracy theories from a game show host, former game show host, i should point out. actually, though, it doesn't say at all. these two sound bites do. first, former president george w. bush's tribute to dr. fauci. >> as the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases for more
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than 23 years, tony fauci has led the fight against hiv and aids. for his determined and aggressive efforts to help others live longer and healthier lives, i am proud to award the presidential medal of freedom to dr. anthony s. fauci. >> presidential medal of freedom, dr. fauci got. that is who the president is now undermining. and all the folks around him are dropping lines about him. saying things about him sending out hit pieces about him. and this is who the president is listening to on the outbreak that's now claimed nearly 136,000 american lives. chuck woolery. >> hey, chuck woolery here with a bit of a confession. i have a favorite emu oil. get american-made blue emu. it works fast and you won't stink. >> the ointment might not stink. something sure does. more now on all this from cnn's
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jim acosta at the white house. jim, what exactly do we know about the relationship between fauci and the president right now? the fact that the president hasn't been to a task force briefing, apparently since april, and fauci hasn't directly briefed him in two months. >> formerly the love connection game show. but as you know, the president doesn't exactly have a love connection with the truth. and we have been seeing that play out ever since the pandemic began. you know, anderson, i talked to a senior administration official earlier this evening who said, listen, the frustrations that have been expressed by the white house. they don't reflect a crisis in confidence, according to this senior administration official, in dr. anthony fauci. and it's not a warning shot. but they are, certainly, freezing him out. no question about it. they've sidelined him, in terms of these white house coronavirus task force briefings. he hasn't been showing up. dr. fauci hasn't, at some of these briefings and public appearances by members of that
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task force. they have been saying no to dr. fauci's television interviews. that's why you don't see him on u.s. television, by and large. he has been blocked by the white house from appearing on a variety of programs. but, even more sinister, anderson, is what we saw happen over the weekend where anonymous white house officials were sending out talking points, trashing the nation's top infectious diseases expert, like he is a political opponent. and when i asked kayleigh mcenany, the white house press secretary, earlier today, why they were doing that. why they don't put their name on these talking points and these statements that they are giving to reporters around town. especially, since the president doesn't like anonymous sources and has said he doesn't believe in anonymous sources. the white house press secretary tried to claim they weren't sending around opposition research, which of course, anderson, is false. they were sending out opposition research on dr. anthony fauci. and the sad irony of it all is if they had been listening to people like dr. anthony fauci all along, they would be further along in recovering from this
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pandemic than they are right now. >> and would the president be able to -- to fire fauci? i mean, i guess he doesn't even have to. he just sidelines him, tries to destroy his reputation. keeps him off the airwaves. but he keeps doing what he does at the nih. >> right. they're trying to force him out. obviously, they would like to see dr. fauci leave. but, my understanding, from talking to people who are familiar with dr. fauci's thinking, he has no intention of doing that. he intends, at this point, to keep telling the american people the truth. to give a dose of reality, in terms of what's happening with the coronavirus pandemic. but technically because dr. fauci is a civil servant, he can't be directly fired by the president. the senior administration official i spoke with earlier this evening conceded that but they can make life difficult for him and that's what they are doing right now, anderson. >> jim acosta, thanks very much. coming up next, an extraordinary veteran hiv-aids activist who has worked with dr. fauci for decades.
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he's stood across from him, negotiating tables, and opposed him. but also, worked with him on professional, public -- on the professional, public servant that he knows and whether fauci can survive this. later, with los angeles saying no, today, to in-person schooling, we are going to look at what is and what is not known about reopening schools safely. and whether that's possible right now. for info on options trading, and look, it feels like i'm just wasting time. that's why td ameritrade designed a first-of-its-kind, personalized education center. oh. their award-winning content is tailored to fit your investing goals and interests. and it learns with you, so as you become smarter, so do its recommendations. so it's like my streaming service. well except now you're binge learning. see how you can become a smarter investor with a personalized education from td ameritrade. visit tdameritrade.com/learn ♪
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the perfect man for this moment. that is what our next guest calls dr. anthony fauci. the president, again, today was 1917. that is what he is up against. peter is a longtime aids activist. he's opposed him at times. he's worked with him. first, on hiv-aids and now on this pandemic. as member of the covid-19 working group of new york. he is also a member of prep for all, an organization dedicated to increasing access to
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lifesaving and life-enhancing medication. joining us now, chief medical correspondent. dr. sanjay gupta. peter, thanks so much for being with us. sanjay, you as well. i know you have known dr. fauci for more than three decades and i know you have spoken to him regularly. think you even spoke to him today. just first of all, how would you describe his -- how is he doing? i mean, does he talk about the white house attacking his credibility? how is he holding up? >> yes. but first, we haven't spoken since your stork arrived. so i just wanted to congratulate you. >> yes. oh, thank you. >> yeah. he is deeply, deeply frustrated. i think -- and i think that feeling is shared, by many americans today. and baffled with deaths rising, by over 50% in a week. he sees this as a ridiculous sideshow that makes no sense.
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to have an anonymous opposition research, generated by the white house, against our country's top infectious disease expert, during the worst pandemic of our lifetimes, makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever. and he gets up every morning, wanting to fight this virus. wanting to save lives. and this is just a major, major distraction. we all need to get back to work. >> peter, for -- for -- in the audience, for people that don't know peter staly, i first learned about him by watching how to survive a plague, an extraordinary documentary that i recommend you watch. i think it's on netflix now. and peter just did extraordinary things during the epidemic, the aids epidemic. and that's how you came to know fauci. you have been across the table from him, i assume, you know, there was -- back in those days, there was a lot of, you know,
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fury and justifiable anger. and -- and just at what was going on. you, also, clearly respect him. can you just talk about why you think he is the perfect man for the job now? >> well, he is our top infectious disease expert. he, also, is -- has a wealth of experience explaining new bugs to the american people, when new epidemics arise. translating that for us. helping us come together, and fight it together. and through six presidencies, over 40 years, he has been able to help multiple presidents, regardless of party, fight epidemics, as they come up. and i -- i've watched him, for all those decades. and to my frustration and most aids activists, he has never once criticized a president. and we've wanted him to. he has never once thrown under
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the bus, another public health official who is fighting an epidemic alongside him. like, brett gerard did yesterday, who is first time at the rodeo, by the way. and -- and he does that so that, when a new bug arrives, he has the credibility and nonpartisanship to get the president's ear. he is -- he is -- he is brought in. he is in the room, where it happens. when -- when it matters. and he's able to help steer things and -- and -- and help direct things so that the bug is fought against, and lives are saved. that's what he gets up every morning doing. >> let me -- sanjay, you know, you and i have talked so often. but i was thinking about this a lot this weekend. i just cannot believe we, as a country, are in this situation, sanjay. and back when this pandemic
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began, the idea that anyone would -- i mean, that the trump administration, not only all the failures that they have done. but would be seeking, now, to discredit the u.s.'s top infectious disease expert. i mean, we -- we knew this was going to happen when trump started to say, out loud, wow, dr. fauci, your ratings are huge. you know, people really admire you and respect you. that is the -- that is for, this president, the kiss of death. but can you believe, sanjay, that we are in the middle of a pandemic, and this is what is happening from our government? >> it's astonishing. there's no question. whether i can believe it or not, i mean, i guess, part of me, you know, can, anderson. you know, i mean, first of all, there's been a crescendo, right? the task force briefings went away. you saw dr. fauci becoming sort of more marginalized. there was this idea that, look, i don't dislike dr. fauci, you're hearing, but i'd rather not see him. out of sight, out of mind. and now, it's sort of
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crescendoed to this point now where there's an active-disinformation campaign that's going on against him. but the thing that sort of strikes me is there's always been this sort of i'm not going to believe the science, vaccines, autism, climate change, you name it. it always matters but it really matters right now. >> sanjay, i think this really caught tony off guard. and as i told him when the shit hit the fan on saturday night, i have my suspicions as to who is trying to undercut him. he's been tangling, since march, with trump's trade advisor, peter navarro, who is the godfather of two main conspiracy theories around covid. first, he's been relentlessly going on cable television, including last week, saying, quote, the chinese spawned and weaponized the virus.
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and that, quote, they sent hundreds of thousands of chinese nationals over here to seed and spread the virus. this is crazy, racist talk. and he's, also, the guy who, since march, has birthed the hydroxychloroquine movement. he's the reason trump thinks hydroxychloroquine can save his ratings. now, we have 63 million doses, stockpiled in a fema warehouse, gathering dust. after placebo-control trials showed it didn't work and probably hurt, which proved fauci right. so, you know -- >> right. we have stockpiles of that. and yet -- we have stockpiles of that and yet, ppe is now back in the headlines as something that we've let slip. we're going to have more on that tonight. we're out of time. peter, i got to move on but i appreciate you being with us. peter staly. and thanks for all you continue to do. sanjay, as well. up next, more on the president's
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house task force tells cnn dr. sanjay that while there are no hard and fast rules about when schools should reopen. quote, if a particular community has had a five-day sustained increase in community spread, they probably should not be opening schools. is th that directly contradicts advice. just how long president trump and others were to demand schools fully reopen last week.
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according to the new york time, those comments were made the same week the government setting reopening guidance the highest risk of spread of the virus. available to read by anyone since may. meaning they should have known how wrong they were. the report is also critical of the gaps it sees in states' plans to reopen. and rather than help schools with these issues, the administration appears to have another plan. throw money at schools desperate for cash to get them to do what you want. >> the president has argued that he is looking at the potential to defund, if the schools do not open. ms. devos said the same thing. now, having said that, i think the president would be willing to consider additional funding for state and local governments. if the schools do reopen. so that's, perhaps, an incentive. >> joining me now, dr. leana
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wen, emergency room physician and former baltimore health commissioner. also, arnie duncan, former education secretary under president obama. secreta secretary duncan, thanks for being with us. you just heard larry kudlow said. did that make sense to you? >> this is not the time to threaten to take money. they don't have the power to do that. he doesn't even have the power to give money. that would happen through congress. if they want reopening schools, they need to put 150, $200 billion out there to schools to get the ppe they need. we need a massive tutoring program to help kids catch up. unfortunately, too many places where we are seeing cases skyrocket to have to stay closed physically. >> dr. wen, i mean, it stands to reason if any kind of financial incent i have was offered, the schools most strapped for cash would be first to open. but aren't those schools the very same underserved
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communities that have been devastat devastated by the virus already? >> yeah, that he's right. these are completely backwards. you don't incentivize someone to reopen too soon and take a shortcut. because, frankly, we've seen what happens when we try to take shortcuts and bypass the science. it's what we are seeing right now with all these surges happening all over the country when we open too soon. there is a way for us to reopen safely. and that involves keeping the level of infection low in communities because you are just not going to be able to reopen and keep covid out of schools if, in fact, you have raging infections out of control in the community. and there are these interventions that secretary duncan mentioned. and that, frankly, that we have seen the cdc put out guidance on exactly how to do this. we need to put in the hard work. and not just have rhetoric and empty threats. >> and, secretary duncan, the cc cdc document that was obtained by "the new york times." it calls for the full reopening
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of schools and universities. it calls that the highest risk for the spread of the coronavirus. the full reopening. squaring that with the message that we have been hearing from the white house, i mean, you can't square those -- those two things. what do you think is actually going to happen here? >> well, what's happening is people aren't paying any attention to -- to president trump's bluff and bluster and threats and bullying. what you have is really thoughtful superintendents, university presidents, across country, figuring out what is safest? what is right for their faculty, for their staff, for their teachers, for our children, in their communities? and where they can open slowly and gradually, with some physical presence. again, the goal is not to reopen schools. the goal is to keep them open. they will do that. we see cases surging, whether it's in california, florida, or whatever. people are going to make decisions they hate to make because they have no choice because we have not done what we need to do in march and april and may and june and jewuly to
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give our children a chance to go back to sool chool in august an september. >> but, secretary duncan, do school superintendents have the power to? i mean, if the governor of the state says i want the schools open by this date, do they have to open? >> no. to be clear, president trump has zero power here. governors basically have zero power. what you have is slowly superintendents figuring out what is right, what is safe for children, for teachers, for parents, for grandparents, for custodians, for bus drivers, for all these staff. they are figuring out what is right and safe. and they are being so thoughtful for all the devastating lack of leadership at the federal level, as i talk to superintendents across the country, they are being so thoughtful and care frl about trying to do the right thing for people's health and safety, educationally, and for students' social and emotional needs as well. that would retraumatize kids if we open up everything, and have to close everything back down because we opened too early,
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after two or three weeks, that would be devastating. let's do this slowly. let's try and do it gradually. and if, if, if in communities, we can reduce the number of cases, then gradually, we can increase the number of students who have a chance to go to a physical school building. >> you know, dr. wen, redfield from the cdc said, last week sometime, that not opening schools, having kids stay at home, would cause -- i'm not sure if he said as much damage or more damage than kids going to school. but the implication was, basically, that there is a high cost to having kids stay at home. and that harms them, as well. >> he's right about that. kids should be going to school. i mean, i have young children. you, now, do, too. we know that kids do need the -- not only the educational support at school. but there's so many other reasons for them to be in school. for many of the students in baltimore that i served, for example, they depended on the school for lunch. 80% of students qualified for free or reduced lunch.
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school was also, in many cases, where they received healthcare. it was their safe place to go. one in four to one in five cases of domestic and sexual assault is diagnosed by teachers. but we also have to remember even though children are not the ones who might get severely ill from coronavirus. although, some do get ill, they tend to get less ill. we are also talking about the family members they're coming back to. we're also talking about the staff and teachers who may get the infection. and about the community being infected if we have too many students going to school in an unsafe environment. and so, that's why it's so important that we put in the hard work right now. reduce the level of coronavirus in the community. and that window for intervention is actually closing. because it takes two to three weeks for us to see the impact of interventions. so we need to put in that work right now. and urgently get the resources that secretary duncan mentioned from the federal government to really make a difference. >> yeah. and of course, the white house is -- is not calling for the one thing that we know works, which
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is everyone wear a mask. social distance. that, i cannot reconcile that. reopening. pushing for reopening, without pushing for mask wearing. secretary duncan, appreciate your time. dr. wen as well. just ahead, as healthcare workers across the country do what they can do to help coronavirus patients. what a cnn investigation uncovers when it comes to the availability of masks and other personal protective equipment. ppe, still, an issue. we'll have a report on that ahead. at the golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2020 nx 300 for $339 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. ♪ ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪
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well, early on in the pandemic, you may remember there was widespread concern about a lack of personal protective equipment for those healthcare workers on the front lines, treating vic kims of coronavirus. things like masks and other gear. now, months later, for some of those workers, the problems persist. cnn senior investigative correspondent drew griffin has more. >> this is a face mask nurse judith will use in a massachusetts hospital this week. dirty. reused. one of three she has to recycle, disinfect, on her dashboard. >> and the sun will hit the mask, and it will -- will leave them there for a few days. and then, use them again. >> hardly sanitary but health workers say there just aren't enough masks. on cape cod, michelle brom says it's one recleaned mask a shift. >> they want you to reuse that
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mask multiple times, and they send it for cleaning. >> and how often are you reusing the same mask? >> they do this process five times. >> across the country, nurses, doctors, some state health officials, contacted by cnn, say the lack of personal protective equipment, or ppe, is their most dangerous challenge. with n95 masks the toughest to find. >> this is something that we were talking about, four months ago. >> the american medical association has been begging the federal government to direct the manufacture acquisition and distribution of ppe. >> it's a national shame that we've run out of masks and other ppe to protect our healthcare workers. there was no excuse in march, and even less of an excuse now. >> this month, a democratic congressional house oversight committee, said lack of leadership from the trump administration is forcing local governments, states, and hospitals to compete for sacarc supplies. just endorsed joebtd because of what it it calls trump's
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abandonment of public health and safety. >> it's not just n95s. it's everything. we really need the president to fully invoke the defense production act. so he can mass produce the things that will keep us safe. and, to this point, he has refused to do so. >> the department of health and human services disputes that account. telling cnn it has moved with deliberate and determined speed, to ensure we secured supplies and equipment needed by frontline u.s. healthcare workers. hhs listed 19 companies, that had received orders under the defense production act, or dpa, to acquire emergency supplies. including, 600 million n95 masks. but experts say it's not enough. and it started far too late. only half of the masks ordered will be delivered by the end of this year. >> this is going to be a really serious, serious and persistent challenge for the united states, you know, for several months, if not longer. >> kelly, a former pentagon official under the obama administration says the trump administration hasn't used the full power of the defense
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production act. >> the administration listened a little bit too much to corporate interests, early on in the crisis. dpa was not used early enough, nor aggressively enough, to put us in a position to get the kind of equipment and ppe we need in time. >> some major hospitals tell cnn they are making their own deals to buy ever-scarcer supplies. some, even stockpiling ppe. but smaller hospitals, nursing homes, and doctors office' are left out of the supply chain. jeopardizing even routine medical care, according to the ama. >> a few months ago, we're in this really dire, emergent situation. and our hope was that situation would change and improve. and it's really unfortunate that here we are, in the middle of july, and things look, more or less, the same as they did in mid-march. >> dr. gupta helped start an organization to do what the federal government has not. trying to fill shortages of ppe where healthcare workers were going without. today, she says her group has
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13,000 requests. they can fill just 10%. >> it shouldn't be seen in the united states. we had the opportunity to do a better job of preparing ourselves, and preparing the people that we're trusting to care for covid patients. and we didn't do that. we really fell short, as a country. >> drew, i mean, we are stale talking about shortages. how much worse can it get? >> we talked to a medical supply chain, and experts are forecasting it can actually get worse. that is because the search of the equipment, it's expected to get fiercely competitive in the next weeks or months. as you talked and, with the school systems going to enter the market. they need supplies too, and like you said, anderson, we never solved the problem with ppe. the virus went away for a little bit. it came back and the pp serks problem with ill stch.
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>> thanks very much. coming up, the big change for the nfl team in our nation's capital. the nfl redskins now say what they do about their name. details about that ahead. with their financial needs. with over 90 years' of investment experience, our thousands of financial professionals can help. go to prudential.com or talk to an advisor.
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today the nfl team in washington, d.c., announced at the end of a review process it would be changing its team name and logo. one the navajo nation called racist and disparaging. the team name was chosen by george preston marshall before he moved the team to d.c. he was a known bigot. the last nfl owner to end grate his team. pressure has been building for decades to change the name, thanks to indigenous activists as well as the environment created by the black lives matter movement. that change finally came with investors placing pressure on the team's sponsors. according to the washington post, those sponsors, including fedex, which own the naming rights to the team's stadium demand they change their name. the new name will not be announced to a later date due to trademark issues. some possibilities floated include the red tails. an allusion to the tuchkegee airmen. president trump called the change political correctness. today the navajoe nation today is an historic day for all indigenous people around the world. i hand it over to chris
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