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wonderful mother of four girls. guy tetra of new jersey was 50. he was passionate about music and dungeons and dragons and founded a software company. may they rest in peace. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. outfront next, dr. anthony fauci warns coronavirus could eclipse the 1918 flu which killed more than 50 million people. as the president holds an hour long press conference attacking joe biden. plus how should school lunches be handled? how can you keep masks on young kids for a whole school day? we've got a lot of questions and experts are here to answer them. the president says flying the confederate flag is a freedom of speech, saying wildly misleading statements. atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms is my guest.
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. a chilling warning from the nation's infectious disease expert dr. anthony fauci who warns the coronavirus pandemic has the potential to be as serious as the 1918 flu, which the cdc estimates killed 50 million people. >> that was the mother of all pandemics and truly historic. i hope we don't even approach that with this, but it does have the makings of the possibility of approaching that in seriousness. >> okay. to state what you are just thinking after hearing that is what? this is alarming. this is upsetting. this is incomprehensible. it's terrifying. after all the current death toll is a fraction of what it was in 1918. to date 575,000 people are known to have died from coronavirus. so, 50 million people in 1918 is equivalent to 211 million people
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dying from coronavirus now. fauci is opening the door to something well beyond unnerving. as the pandemic escalates in this country, fauci with a message for the nation, the doctors, the truth tellers. >> i would stick with respected medical authorities who have a track record telling the truth. i would say that's the safest bet. >> okay. this is not even a thinly veiled swipe at the president of the united states who just held a campaign rally in the rose garden for an hour barely mentioning coronavirus. fauci says trust the medical expert who is have a track record of truth. he didn't randomly say those words. he isn't talking about someone generally. he's talking about someone specifically, the person who is peddling false statements. >> we are in a good place. >> we're facing a serious problem now. >> and we're almost up to 40 million in testing, 40 million people which is unheard of.
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>> i think what we do need is better screening, broader screening in the country to get a feel for really what the penetrance of this infection is. >> if you look at the chart of deaths, deaths are way down. >> it's a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death. >> so, we were able to close our country, save millions of lives, open and now the trajectory is great. >> some shtates went from shutdown to complete throwing caution to the wind. >> okay. so, there's the person making false statements and the truth teller. and now the american people are making their own decision on who to trust. let's take what president trump said today on schools. >> what do you tell parents and teachers who feel that it's unsafe to go back? >> i would tell parents and teachers that you should find yourself a new person, whoever's in charge of that decision because it's a terrible decision. because children and parents are
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dying from that trauma too. they're dying because they can't do what they're doing. mothers can't go to work because all of a sudden they have to stay home and watch their child and fathers. >> trump wants kid bas back to school. he's gone so far as to withhold funds from districts that don't open up. but he hasn't offered changes to help this happen safely. zero actions. 71% of parents in a new poll say it's moderately high risk to send their kids back to school. 53% of republicans. major school districts saying no deal. north carolina and the largest school district here in new york city will split time between in person and online learning this fall. and los angeles, classes online. americans also don't believe what trump is selling when it comes to reopening our economy. >> we're working to safely and responsibly reopen our country. we're safely reopening our country. our country is now in the next
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stage of the battle, a very safe, phased and gradual reopening. >> except the next stage in 27 states is a step back, halting reopening or going back into lockdown. and tonight, even trump's closest allies don't believe what he has been saying for months when it comes to testing. >> we have the best and certainly the biggest, by far the biggest testing program in anywhere in the world. our testing is far superior to anybo anybody's. we have great testing, the best in the world. >> it's not true and now ron desantis, a close ally of the president and lindsey graham, another close ally of the president, say the administration must do better. >> we just don't have enough testing in real time for the population as a whole. >> we also understand there's a need for faster results. they are backed up. >> okay. they are backed up. it can take a week to get results, which as we all know
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renders them useless. even trump's own former chief of staff wrote about how unacceptable it is. there's all of that. then finally masks. just about everyone has stopped believing president trump's example of not wearing one. 24 states and washington, d.c. now require people to wear masks in public, even people trump considers his allies, corporate america, are stepping up where trump's federal government has been silent. best buy requiring all customers wear masks, and the ceo of walmart, a man trump has tried hard to win over, now saying a mandate requiring all customers to wear masks inside walmart is on his mind at a time when 37 states are seeing increase in cases and the number of deaths in this country has topped 136,000 people. this country needs someone to lead and someone we can trust, not somebody who keeps saying false things, at best to make people feel better, or at worse to hide the truth and help his own re-election. that is why fauci is not being
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nuanced or vague anymore. >> i would stick with respected medical authorities who have a track record of telling the truth. i would say that's the safest bet. >> you can see by how he tightens his slips and his jaw about how he feels. kaitlan collins is live outfront outside the white house. more than an hour from the president of the united states. the focus was not on coronavirus at all. >> reporter: no, the focus was on a lot of different topics actually erin. it was supposed to be on china and hong kong, but the president quickly got off script there and instead starting hitting joe biden after you saw all three cable networks carry the vice president's remarks earlier. not only hitting him on chide na. asking about infrastructure, asking where his son is, didn't answer any questions about coronavirus, and only barely brought up the pandemic sweeping the nation to repeat his false
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claim that we have checked the many times on this program about whether or not more testing being done in the united states is leading to more cases. he did not address people waiting in line to get tested for hours on end and then being told the place is out of tests. he only briefly mentioned dr. anthony fauci as we are seeing the fallout from that continue because we're now hearing from people inside the white house who are questioning just how wise it was for the press to anonymously circulate that memo hitting dr. fauci questioning his judgment because really is question is not just whether or not the president is dealing with the pandemic but also what he's doing politically because he's just a little over 100 days from the election, erin. and this is what exactly some of the worst fears that we have been hearing from the president's allies which is that this is a directionless white house and the president is not really campaigning on anything and now is instead picking arguments with a 79-year-old scientist inside his own administration. so, you heard fauci there.
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we're not expecting him to lead the task force or anything like that. the white house is trying to recalibrate that criticism of fauci from yesterday, but it is raising a lot of questions among the president's own allies about what exactly it is he's trying to achieve here. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. i want to go now to dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner who advised the white house for eight years, white house medical team and at the cardiac lab. gloria borger is also with me, our chief political analyst. the administration continuing to attack dr. fauci who fought back today. one senior official just tweeted out late last night a cartoon mocking fauci as spewing ridiculousness. fauci today responded you can trust medical sources. i'm one of them, you can trust me. you saw the set, his jaw, his mouth. he's not even veil ld. you know him as a fellow doctor. what goes through your head when
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you hear him say that at this point? >> well, i think it's been very disspiriting for dr. fauci. i talk to him on a regular basis. he still takes calls. he's still trying to be out there trying to get this knowledge and this information across. but it's tough. i mean, erin, i think there's two things that really strike me. one is that the idea of not trusting public health figures is not totally new. i remember when i was covering ebola back in 2014 there was some of this. there was an article in "the new england journal of medicine" about what the trust levels were in public health officials and about a third of the country said it was very high. probably more than it is now overall, by not spectacular numbers even back then. i think what really strikes me about this is that eventually all these states and these communities are going to have to do the thing that needs to be done in terms of trying to curve the transmission of this virus. i think what dr. fauci and others sbrn trying to say is
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look, this is a less painful way to get there if you follow these guidelines and these evidence-based recommendations. we're trying to give you the power to make these decisions because ultimately the virus will make the decision for people. the hospitals will become too full. they won't be able to take care of patients and the decisions will become obvious at that point of what needs to be done. so, in the end, the same outcome is going to happen. it's just going to be a lot more painful, i think, if people aren't listening to people like fauci. >> so, dr. reiner, dr. redfield, obviously chair of the cdc, made a pretty stunning admission today. let me play it for you. >> between march and april and may we probably had 20 million infections in the united states even though we only diagnosed 2 million. >> so, dr. reiner, how do you see that? is that a massive testing failure or is that -- or also, i suppose, is that a sign that this, again, is much less deadly than we have believed? >> well, both. we certainly had a massive testing failure.
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we tested -- i think today was the second highest number of tests. we tested about 760,000 people today. that's about 30,000 people an hour on a 24-hour basis. but it took us an excruciatingly long period of time to ramp up. so, first patient tested positive january 20th. we didn't test a total of 20,000 people for 51 days. that's seven weeks. we test that in less than an hour now. but during that 51 days, that's when the virus rode the railroads and subways and airplanes of new york city. that's how the virus got embedded in the soil of this country, in the soul of our country. that was a critical error, one of the two major mistakes we've had. >> we've got studies saying just because you had it you can get it again even within weeks, we don't know. there's question marks on what even having had it even means. the president had an opportunity
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today to talk about coronavirus which is as dr. reiner is currently embedded in the soul of this country and in the minds of everyone. he did not take that opportunity. he spent an hour in the rose garden giving a press conference and attacking joe biden. what's the strategy here? is there any strategy? >> no. there's no strategy. look, this is -- we are in the middle, as tony fauci says, of a pandemic of historic proportion. tony fauci's words. and what does the president do? he goes into the rose garden, decides of course that he misses his campaign rallies, and has a new venue. the venue is the rose garden, owned by all the taxpayers, goes out there and delivers a campaign speech using journalists effectively as props although as they're not sitting and applauding like trump supporters would applaud for a president they support. and he goes out there, and
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instead of starting out by talking about those who have been lost, he talks about the stock market. he did say that there were advances being made on therapeutics and vaccines. but what we saw was a president focused on himself, full of grievance, not only grievance about joe biden but grievance about covid. and it's almost as if he's lost because this is a president who really likes to deliver the first punch. and what we're finding with covid is that this president doesn't know how to fight back. and it's put him on the ropes. he can't -- you know, he wants to reopen schools. there are problems with reopening schools. battleground states, florida for example, arizona for example, two-thirds of the people in those states believe that the virus has not been handled well and most of them blame the president for it. so, what we saw today was the president who doesn't know anything else other than trying
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to punch. that's what he was trying to do. but to do that from the rose garden was really disgraceful. >> so, sanjay, gloria mentioned vaccines, and there was -- there is some new information from moderna. there's several in progress and they're ramping up. there's hundreds of millions of doses ready if they even work. we did get information tonight from one of them. what do we need to know? >> yeah. a potential bright spot here, erin. very early still, but i think the cautiously optimistic tone we've had toward vaccines remains based on now what is the first peer reviewed study on a u.s.-made vaccine. again, very early. 45 people between the ages of 18 and 55, healthy people. they got this vaccine. they got two shots separated by about a month. and what they found was that they did seem to produce these antibodies, both neutralizing antibodies and what are known as binding antibodies. that's good. what we don't know still is just
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how much that's going to protect somebody. i mean, the ultimate question we're trying to ask, you give someone the vaccine, does it inoculate them, protect them from getting infected. and despite what this study has shown, that doesn't answer that question. we need more phases of the study. there are side effects, erin. in the middle dose which is the dose that is used, people did get systemic side effects, muscle pain, fever, headaches, things like that. but they were short duration and not limiting in terms of having the trial go forward. so, this is -- this is good news, erin. this is probably the bright spot in this at least when it comes to vaccines and therapeutics. still need more data. it doesn't mean that the vaccines are guaranteed by any means but the trial moves forward for sure. >> we'll take that good news. you're looking at the possibility of the 1918 coming
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out, we'll take that bright spot no matter how small. thank you all three very much. florida reporting a record numberntfficial there says the government has lost control of the pandemic. plus the mayor of atlanta is my guest. what does she think about the question of the president's question about police violence. >> what a terrible question to ask. so are white people. more white people by the way. more white people. and the president's niece, mary trump, speaking publicly for the first time about what she wants the country to know about donald trump. >> he is utterly incapable of leading this country. and it's dangerous to allow him to do so. ld unlimited right. start with america's most awarded network. give people more plans to mix and match at a price built for everyone. with $700 off our best phones when you switch. because everyone deserves the best. this is unlimited built right.
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this pandemic than ever before. >> you can't keep telling people that everything is just fine and not to worry because this is not a virus that responds to political speaking points. >> reporter: at least 27 states have now paused or rolled back reopening, but case rates are climbing in 37. more people were reported dead from covid in the past 24 hours in florida than ever before. >> some of the metrics have written. >> reporter: but the governor didn't specifically mention the deaths. a member of florida's cabinet says he's lost control. >> the governor continues to down play the seriousness of what is happening here in the state of florida. quite frankly, we have seen very little to no leadership from governor desantis. >> reporter: north carolina just announced it's pausing its phase two for another three weeks. chicago just cancelled its marathon. philly just cancelled all big events for six months. in california, every bar and indoor restaurant just closed
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again. los angeles currently threat level orange. >> we are on the border of going to red. red is when it's -- everything shuts down again, everything, to our strictest level. >> reporter: we hoped warmth would bring res spite. >> i was one of the individual who is thought we would get a little break in july and august. >> reporter: it didn't. so the director of the cdc says he's reluctant to make decisions. >> i think the fall and winter of 2020 and 2021 are probably going to be the most difficult times we've experienced in american public health. >> so, nick, the trump administration today, you know, in the back of that rescinding its policy. they had a policy that said if you're an international student, you have to leave. your visa expires unless you have a physical class. but they've rescinded that. what can you tell us about that?
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>> reporter: the rationale was simple. if the classes are online, why do they need to be in the country. of course that was ignoring the fact these people have built lives here and they have been stuck here for months during this pandemic. a bunch of states and colleges filed suit. one college president called it cruel. people inside the white house, inside the west wing, apparently were saying that it was ill-conceived. so, now about a week after it was announced, it has been rolled back. unclear what happens from here. some suggestions that the trump administration might now try and make this rule to stop any new students coming in to the country to enroll in colleges that are going to be online. but no comment from the white house. so, we'll see where it goes, erin. >> certainly makes a big difference for those students and for the schools. thank you very much, nick. outfront next, socially distancing at school. school lunches. i mean, we all have a lot of
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questions about how this is going to work because you can't have an economy without it and people want their kids safe. tonight, answers. plus the president defending flying the confederate flag. >> all i say is freedom of speech. it's very simple. my attitude is freedom of speech. ntial. but some can't do it alone. they need help to stay home... ...and stay safe. they need us and we need you. home instead. apply today.
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. tonight dr. anthony fauci weighing in as the president pushing to reopen schools. >> so, as a principle, we should try as the default to get the kids to stay in school. however, that's going to vary from where you are in the country and what the dynamics of the outbreak are in your particular region. >> outfront now, robin cogan and school nurse for 20 years in camden, new jersey. she serves on the state's committee for reopening schools. and he has a 60 page plan on how to reopening schools. he's said twice he would send his own kids back to school. i'm a mother as well with kids trying to make this decision.
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you said you feel like we're playing russian roulette with our kid's safety by reopening schools. but today we heard president trump say parents and children are dying by keeping schools closed. >> what i heard before you asked me about president trump is what dr. fauci said, and we have to be safe. we can do this. we absolutely can do this. and i am an absolutely proponent of kids what i am saying is that in this moment, in the circumstances that we're in, are we safe? do we have exactly what we need to make sure that we're making the decision that will keep our students and staff safe? is safety at the center of everything that we're looking at? that's why i said what i said because i don't believe we're there yet. i do believe we can get there, and certainly there are lots of amazing strategies in the book that was put out by harvard public health -- school of public health that i believe in.
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but the things that we don't have in place, the really important things like testing, tracing and isolating, they're not there. even the infrastructure isn't there. so, that's just one example of why i think we're quite not there yet? >> you know, professor allen, to the point she makes, you know, i'm not going far out on a limb here to say that the whole country is not going to be at the point it needs to be in terms of testing and tracing and isolation by the time kids go back to school, if ever, right? it's just not. do you think that needs to be in place fully? and when i say testing in this capacity, i'm saying testing that people can get immediate results whenever they want them, not some test you get the results back in seven days. >> yeah, so thanks for having me on erin, i really appreciate what the school nurses are doing. i agree. we're all aligned here. we want to get the kids back, get them back safely. we want to follow the safety here. fauci got it exactly right.
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we need to have cases in control in the country. we have grossly failed to put plans in place. now we find ourselves in the position in july with cases increasing in many states, knowing that we're trying to get kids back to school. first and foremost, we absolutely have to control the spread of these cases so that we can get kids back to school which should be a national priority. >> so, let me ask you, robin -- as a parent and anyone who's a parent out there has questions. so, we asked viewers for their questions. we got several of them again and again and again. one of them, tony williams, asked us how can you keep the room sanitized after each class? this is a crucial question. some cases they're saying kids won't change classrooms at all. but how do you do this sanitizing in a way where it doesn't just become cursory and partially done? >> and that's a really good point. so, this takes the collective effort, right? this is -- so, if our community
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is not well, our school is not well. we need to get the community involved in what has to happen in school so that everybody feels -- it's a sense of safety and security for parents to say wait a minute, my school has a plan. i know every step of that plan. if a happens, then b is going to happen. when you talk about things like sanitizing, there's a difference between disinfecting and sanitizing and cleaning. we need to understand what's needed for each of those steps. who's going to do it? where are the supplies? and i just have to say this in term of school nursing. i want you to understand that 25% of schools in this country have no school nurse at all. there's no public health nurse in 25% of our schools, there are only a part-time school nurse. so, 60% of our schools with 57 million children across this country have either no school nurse or a very part-time school
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nurse. and then the 40% where there are school nurses, they may have multiple buildings. they may have a huge case load. so, we need additional staff. we want to take care of our students. we miss them. we want to be part of the school community. >> and look but what you're saying of course, this is where you need a lot of help federal government wise and otherwise. we're going to see a dramatic cut to funding to schools if someone doesn't do something to change it. what do you say to those out there, parents and teachers, who look at what happened in arizona and are afraid. there's one teacher who shared one classroom in summer school and at the end of june, one of them dies from coronavirus and the other two get it. they say they were social distancing and following guidelines. we don't know how this happened. it's a terrifying tale. does it give you pause, professor? >> it all gives me pause.
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the goal here of course is zero cases, zero deaths. we need to be sure that all the controls we put in place that we know can be effective are in place. and look to what's happening in health care where they're doing lite of things to reduce the risk of health care workers in a high risk environment like hand washing and mask wearing of course but also helping building strategies. they can't even physically distance in a hospital. and i mentioned healthy building strategies last night on your show and ventilation. but i want to put a little bit more color on that because i don't know what was happening in that building where those people got sick, if in fact that is where they got sick. as we scale up and have more people in a building, the ventilation standards are also set to scale by person. so, in other words, the standard should be 15 liters per second per person. liters is the amount of air per second over time. so, it scales up. the more kids and adults you have in a room, we need to bring in more outdoor air. the problem is just like we've
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underinvested in school nurses and schools, we've underinvested in the environment. we need to invest in school buildings. we know that influences health. >> i thank you very much. i speak for many parents. we all have kids in schools. they're very hot. one random window air conditioner are far from what is needed. and these are in some of the best public schools. thank you all very much. the president kills that more white people are killed by police when asked about the violence. breaking news, mary trump, the president's niece, breaking her silence for the first time since the gag order is lifted and her book is released. >> if you were in the oval office today, what would you say to him? >> resign. that no two people ae alike and customize your car
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his point. >> all i say is freedom of speech. it's very simple. my attitude is dpreem of speech whether it's confederate flags or black lives matter or anything else you want to talk about. it's freedom of speech. >> outfront now, atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms. i appreciate your time. what's your reaction to the president putting equal footing black lives matter and the confederate flag saying the confederate flag is just like black lives matter, a form of free speech. >> this president unfortunately never surprises me. and he lacks simple empathy. he doesn't have the empathy that allows him to lead the people of america, and i think it was president obama who said it's a lack of empathy that leads us into wars. it leads us to ignore the homeless on our street. and in this case, with our president, it leads him to ignore the reality of where we are in america right now. to compare black lives matter
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with the confederate flag is simply despicable and out of touch. >> so, then he was also asked in this same interview, mayor, why black people in america are dying at the hands of police. and i want to play for you exactly how he answered that question. >> so are white white people. what a terrible question to ask. so are white people. more white people by the way. more white people. >> okay. i just want to be clear here for anybody who's confused by that. washington did an analysis here. since 2015, 20,499 white people were shot by police. more than 3,100 black people shot by police. that's where he gets that. it's misleading because when you adjust it for population, black americans are about 2.5 times more likely to be shot and killed by police as white people. and the president of the united states, mayor, certainly knows this. why would he answer the way he
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did? >> my trying to figure out why he answers the way he does is really like me trying to figure out why he's even the president of the united states. he's incapable of leading. he is completely missing the moment that we are in in america. it's a moment that calls for empathy. it calls for understanding. it calls for an acknowledgment that there is a crisis in our country right now. and he simply can't lead. and for us to expect anymore of him in this moment really is insanity. and it makes me angry. i have so many emotions watching him say this. and the only thing, quite frankly, that's going through my mind right now is that i hope my children didn't hear him speak today. >> i want to ask you about your children. i know one of them has been sick with coronavirus. you, yourself, have been
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battling the virus. i know your husband was very sick. how is everyone in your family doing right now? >> thankfully we're doing better. my husband's doing a lot better. he walked to the mailbox which was progress. but we really are an example of how easily this virus is spread and simply why we can't get to the other side of it. we had an asymptomatic child in our house for eight days before we realized -- before we were all tested again and realized we were all positive. and my husband doesn't have underlying health conditions, and this virus has literally knocked him to his knees. so, there have been so many failures of this president, including leadership on the coronavirus including matters as it relates to race and just added to the long list of failures of his presidency. >> so, you know, he's coming to
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your state tomorrow, ups facility, just where you are, metro atlanta. he's talking about infrastructure, not coronavirus, even as daily cases in georgia have increased more than 300% compared to just one month ago. he's coming as he has now done to florida and arizona and oklahoma for completely unrelated things. what would you like to hear from him tomorrow? if he came, what would you like to hear? >> well, he says he's going to speak about infrastructure. i'll be shocked if that's what he actually speaks about. but what i would say to him is that we have a mask mandate in this city. we own and operate the world's busiest airport, and we have now mandated that people wear masks in the airport. that is what we need across this country. we need some federal guidelines as it relates to covid-19. there is a patchwork of policies in place. in georgia, our numbers are as high as i've seen them since
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april. and when you look at other countries, you look at what was down get to the other side of this pandemic, and it was through leadership. we are lacking leadership now. what i would say to president trump is please allow the experts to speak to, give us sound information without you countering their information and allow this country an opportunity to get to the other side. we want our children to go back to school in the fall. we want economic recovery. but we will not get there without leadership. >> no, and not without masks either. i second it as a mother like you. we all want our kids back in schools, just get it done right. thank you so much, mayor. i appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. voters heading to the polls in texas tonight. there are growing signs that the president's base, some of them, may be losing faith. plus president trump's niece in her first interview, why she is calling for her uncle to
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as voters head to the polls in texas joe biden launches his election ad in the state. he believes texas where coronavirus raging could be in play. ed lauis "outfront". >> reporter: promising good times but the good vibes are smothered by the pandemic that's casting a long shad doe of the 2020 presidential election. >> i think the whole covid thing is a tool used to division us as a country instead of coming together which is really sad for our country. >> reporter: margery and kelly support president trump and say he's done an honest job of handling the pandemic. >> i think he's probably doing the best he can right now. i mean, there is so much mixed information out there and trying to decipher what is fact and fiction and where it's coming
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from. it's tough. i wouldn't want to be in his position. >> although, i don't always like his decisions, i think his intentions are always good. in his own, he gathers the information and he makes the decision for our country and not for an alterer motive. >> reporter: mckinney texas is a historically conservative big city suburb where they say trump is vulnerable and the area joe biden is targeting with a new television ad. >> this virus is tough but texas is tougher. >> reporter: recent polls show trump and biden locked in a tight race in texas. of course, the idea of a democrat winning texas is still viewed with high skepticism, but there is a strong wave of anger toward president trump among some texas voters. >> how do you think president trump handled this pandemic? >> failure. total failure. his actions and lack of actions have exacerbated the effects of the pandemic on all americans.
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>> he's not taking responsibility of anything he does. he always blames someone else. >> nobody has died, it's just going to go away by itself. those are the things which really bothers me as a citizen that he really takes it very lightly. >> reporter: for some trump supporters, the president is a victim of unfair criticism, politically motivated in an election year. >> he had to hit the ground running in all of the unknowns and i feel like he's been second guessed for the majority of it. it's easy now to become an armchair quarterback and to criticize what he's done. >> thanks to ed. mary trump speaking out revealing what her uncle told her months after being elected.
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donald trump's niece is speaking out about her book and has a message for her uncle. >> april 2017 i'm going to end where i began. >> sure. >> you go -- you see the president in the oval office and you tell him don't let them get you down. did you mean that? >> i did. actually. he -- that was four months in. he already seemed very strained by the pressures. he had never been in a situation before where he wasn't entirely protected from criticism or accountability or things like that and i just remember thinking he seems tired. he seems like this is not what
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he signed up for if he even knows what he signed up for, and i thought his response was actually more enlightening than my statement. and he said they won't get me. and so far looks like he's right. >> and if you're in the oval office today, what would you say to him? >> resign. >> boil it down. what's the single most important thing you think the country needs to know about your uncle? >> he's utterly incapable of leading this country. and it's dangerous to allow him to do so. >> based on what you see now or what you saw then? >> based on what i've seen my entire adult life. >> well, the gag order lifted on
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her and that book is out today. thank you so much for joining us. "ac 360" with anderson starts now. good evening. with more than 136,000 dead in this country due to the coronavirus pandemic, the president of the united states today stepped into the rose garden and tried to turn into a political rally he can no longer do because of the pandemic. for the better part of an hour he rail against china, democrats and joe biden and climate accords and energy saving air conditions, statute vandals and on and on the president at times seemed like he was reading a list. at other moments, he seemed to free associate. he talked about bombers under his command and said hope we don't have to use them and boasted of things he did three years ago with the wall, undocumented immigrants and old applause lines but no applause,
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