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we try to bridge the civilgen divide. we're sharing the story of swagel. she's the first black female fighter pilot in nearly ten years of aviation. the navy's vice chief of information congratulated her by tweet saying very proud of lieutenant grade swagel. kick but. a congratulations, you make the u.s. navy. and investigation by military.com found black pilots were in the service especially in units.
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if you have any questions, comments or story ideas, email them to me at cnn.com and you can see our column at cnn.com/home front. i want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. the government is not being forthright about the challenges our nation is facing. they argue state economy should push forward with reopening and kids should return to school in person. and as they insist they have a handle on the situation, consider this was one month ago. >> if you look, the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. it's dying out. >> it was not, it still is not. the u.s. shattering its daily record, reporting more than 77,000 new cases. now, a month ago the single-day
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total was 73,000. so, multiply that by three just four weeks later. 38 states are showing a spike in new infections while the number of new americans hospitalized were highest in the pandemic. and we learned the white house is hiding key data for americans. they obtained a copy of an unpublished 459-page report. and 19 states in the so-called red zone should roll back. in los angeles. shattered a new record. >> it was interesting with dr. fauci this morning. there was optimism and a heavy dose of realism. he said ultimately we will get
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back to normal. it will take some time. but right now they're saying there's going to be a second wave in the fall. we should right now be kaungsen traiting on what's happening right now because it's very bad. july is worse than april. seven days already this month we've broken a record for new cases in a day, stands at a stunning 77,255 from thursday. here's one big reason why. >> we've allowed people to congregate in bars and restaurants, staying for prolonged periods of time within six feet of one another. >>. >> reporter: and the main floor of their emergency operation center closed after 12 workers tested positive. but miami-dade schools are supposed to reopen in just weeks. >> it's becoming difficult to
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argue for a regular reopening of schools, considering the data in miami-dade. which, by the way, is comparable to the data and circumstances yohan, china faced months asgoe. >> reporter: the governor wants teachers to offer full teaching. >> the science is on our side. >> no, it's inconclusive. and look what happened after schools reopened may 17th. we have the means to control this. >> i've got a blockbuster drug called masks. masks work. >> but in georgia, he's suing atlanta's mayor over her city's mask mandate. >> the governor is putting politics over people. our hospitals are almost at capacity. and this is how he chooses to spend our time and taxpayer money.
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>> while we all agree wearing a mask is effective, i'm confident georgians don't need a mandate to do the right thing. >> that sends a confused message. is it really important? >> record death tolls in texas three days in a row. but apparently the governor has no plans for more pausing or rolling back reopening. >> the last thing any of us want is to lock texas back down again. >> reporter: you mention that unpublished document obtain fwhied center for public integrity, recommendations to the white house corona task force. texas should limit gatherings to 10 or less everywhere. and cal should target messaging at the most at-risk communities. and they recommend that georgia
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mandate masks statewide. brianna. >> problematic that report is private. especially because that information is not being passed on. it appears from the task force. thank you so much for telling us what's going on across the country. today the top infectious disease expert is calling for their citizens to wear masks, in order to turn around the massive surge in cases. >> i can say, as a public health official that i would urge the leaders, the local political, and other leaders in states, and cities and towns. to be as forceful as possible in getting your citizenry to wear masks. >> joining me to discuss is infectious disease expert at emory university medical school, carlos del rio. always good to see you. i want to start in your home state.
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georgia's governor is suing the mayor of atlanta for mandating masks, even as he's encouraging people to wear them. what's your reaction to that? >> we're playing politics instead of saving people. i think as dr. fauci says, the evidence to support masks is undeniable. what we need to be doing is letting local authorities do what they need to do and quite frankly, we need a national mandate. it would be nice if the president and vice president said we need masks. the reality is slowly but probably too slow, states are making that decision. alabama just mandated masks. other municipalities. so, we need to do this nationally and i'm disappointed by what's happening in georgia because we have a sear ygs problem and we could do something to avoid it and do it today. >> do you think it's disingenuous when they say
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they're not against masks, just against them being mandated. my question is do you think people will not wear masks unless they're mandated to do so? >> well, think about what we've done in restaurants where we've prohibited inside smoking, right? we haven't said we encourage you not to smoke. because people would still smoke or we would have, like we did years ago, sections where you can smoke and sections where you can't. we said it's prohibited to smoke indoors and people stopped because it was mandated. if you don't mandate it, and it's likely to have some effect. otherwise they don't make a differ ngs. >> i want to note, you've been advising the city of atlanta on provisions to stop the spread. they sited you as the foremost experts. what have you been saying? >> we've been simply looking at the science and the data and the
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best available data. i want to emphasize what the mayor wants to do and we all want to do is save lives and we want to save the economy. but it's very clear in order to have a safe economy and a healthy economy, you have to have healthy people. so, if we can stop the spread of the virus, we have too much in our communities right now. and we need to bring community virus down to safely do things. if we want people to gather, we have to have less virus. and with the amount of virus available right now, you have to limit gatherings to less than ten people. as the document from the white house task force says. >> so, we've seen about the secret white house document, because it had warnings about 18 states included in this coronavirus red zone. and it says that they should go back under lockdowns. what did you think when you heard this was kept secret from the public? >> i would tell you this is
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internal documents. they're not secret. they're documents of the coronavirus task force is creating. and every week those documents with specific information are going to the governors directly to the white house. so, this document is helping. these are being done at the coronavirus task force to help governors guide their response in their states. and whether governors are paying attention or not is another question. but what the white house task force is trying to do is give them the best available data and information to guide the response. i do wish, given what we're seeing that they become available, transparent so we, as citizens, can also demand accountability from our elected officials. >> because they're not actually following the recommendations of what's in the document. >> no, and neather are the federal elected officials. they said the science is on our side.
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no, the science very clearly says what you need do. and i think we need science to guide the response. science is going to get us out of this and we need to follow the science. we cannot make it up as we go because reality is where we are right now and i would say the u.s. is failed in the response to the coronavirus because we haven't done the right thing from the very beginning. >> thank you so much. >> delighted to be with you, brianna. sg >> if the president is demanding all schools reopen, does that mean he's going to make that decision himself as a parent? the white house has just responded to that. plus, a republican senator blames hispanics for the spread of the coronavirus and a congresswoman called that racist b.s. she will join me live. and i'll be speaking with a church pastor suing the california governor over a ban on singing. why he argus this is a mandate from the bible.
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harsh criticism for a north carolina senator after remarks he made in a telephone town hall. he was addressing rising coronavirus rates in his state when he said this. >> i'm not a scientist or a statusstition, but one of the concerns we've had more recently is that hispanic population now constitutes about 44% of the positive cases. and we do have some concerns that in the hispanic population we've seen less consistent ad herance to social distancing and wearing a mask.
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>> now, latino members of congress responded angrily. and including reuben, who reminded him they're essential workers, forced to work in the middle of a pandemic. he tweeted saying senator tillis could never do one full shift at a meat-packing factory. respect the people that feed america. i want to bring in congresswoman veronica escobar who put it bluntly, this racist b.s. needs to stop. thank you so much for being with us. when you heard senator tillis's comments, tell us what you thought, considering it's pretty well documented that one of the reasons they've been so hard hit is they are more likely to account for being workers in a grocery store or a meat-packing plant or to have lower paying jobs essential at hospitals. >> right. thank you so much, brianna, for covering this issue.
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it really is important. there have been so much misinformation put out by the president and by some republicans. and in addition to that misinformation, which, misinformation can prove deadly. but in addition to that misinformation, there have been use of racist troupes. we've heard it from the white house when the president and members of his team refer to the coronavirus as the wuhan flu. we know that has inspired hate crimes against asian americans. and now you have senator tillis basically laying blame for the rapid rises of cases and the disproportionate impact of the coronavirus on latinos. basically saying it's because we're irresponsible. or those in the state are irsponsable. that in turn is going to fuel anger from people who will then see latinos in the same way that the white house wanted americans
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to see asian americans and seeing them as part of the problem. when in fact, as you pointed out, and my colleague diego pointed out, latinos and african-americans have disproportionately felt the impact of the coronavirus. because we have been on the frontlines from the fields to the restaurants, to the grocery stores. additionally, and the senator should know this. additionally, dr. fauci has laid out in very plain terms that the reason why the african-american community and latino community are so hard hit, in addition to our exposure is because we suffered from co-morbidities and lack of access to health insurance, primary care physicians and there should be not just an added sensitivity to what's happening in america in the minority community.
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but he should be working to insure that minority communities in his state receive added resources. and that essential workers are protected, instead of floating these theories not founded in fact. >> and we also know one of the reasons that hispanic americans have so many concerns, for instance, about schools reopening is they're more likely to live in multigenerational families. we hear so many stories about people who say i haven't seen my grandparents or elderly parents in months. that's not a luxury that increasingly hispanic american families have. >> that's absolutely right. and so, communities should be leading the way. because in the absence of leadership from the white house and absence of national testing strategy from the white house, it's going to be up to state leaders, governors, communities
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to make sure that the resources necessary for robust testing, tracing, isolation and treatment reach those communities lowest at risk. and multigenerational families are very much at risk. so, that goes for the essential workers who are going into help make sure that we have the food, and everything that we need in our homes. but also for the kids who are going into schools. you saw the republican party call off its national convention because -- yoet you have a president and other republicans saying let's get our kids into schools. it doesn't compute and those most vulnerable, again, are latinos and african-americans. >> thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. and we're following breaking news. ruth bader ginsburg says her cancer has returned.
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she is undergoing chemotherapy and has been since may to treat cancerous lesions on her liver. with me to discuss, cnn legal analyst. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: this was a surprise. just two days ago i was standing out here talking about her trip the hospital in baltimore for possible infection of a biel duct stint. and we thought she was home resting comfortably. and apparently she is, but decides today to reveal the fact she had had a rekrerrance since may, bio weekly chemotherapy treatments and she'll continue those treatments to keep cancer at bay in the lesions she mentioned. so far there's been reduction of the lesions and she's feeling comfortable and moving forward. one thing you should know,
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brianna, is this statement from her today included almost a forceful i'm still here message. she said she'd been able to continue all her work at the court. she thinks she will continue to write her opinions and do her work. she'd always said she'll continue full steam ahead on the bench as long as she can do it. and she said to anybody reading the statement about the chemo and rekerrance of cancer, i can do it. and the most serious, i would say, is in december of 2018 when they discovered that she had lung cancer and she underwent serious surgery for that. then last august, a rekerrance of the pancreatic cancer discovered in 2009. she survived and we go back all the way to 1999 when she had colorectalcanter.
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she said a scan showed the lesions in february. i had been in her chambers in january and she said i'm cancer free and that's good. they tried intermediate treatment and had to go to to the chemotherapy, which begain in may. we're all watching whether she would ever feel the need down in the coming months because president donald trump is already put two conservatives on the bench and if he were to have the opportunity to name a third t would dramatically tilt the balance of the supreme court and the law in america. >> she is tough as nails. so, we wish her the best as she continues to battle for her health. thank you for the update. as coronavirus cases are continuing to surge here in the united states, president trump has been largely silent. the u.s. shatters its own record, adding 77,000 new cases.
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and it's been more than a week since the man in charge held an official coronavirus event. kaitlan collins. i mean, what's happening here? is the president ignoring the virus? this seems very unusual to not have an event about the biggest issue that is confronting the country right now. >> not a single event this week was dedicated the pandemic and that's notable, as we've seen cases soaring. and what's going to happen going forward. and the president has briefly addressed some of these events, faced questions about it, but not held a single event to talk about reopening schools or anything like that. the last one he held was last tuesday. and of course, there have been so many questions still going forward about guidance. the cdc delaying the guidance they were going to put out going forward. it's raising questions about how much the president is paying attention here. the white house says he's
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focussed on the pandemic and briefed daily. americans seem to be noticing that because you saw the new "washington post" abc poll that said majority of americans disprove with how he responded to coronavirus. and even kelly ann conway saying they think he should be more forward facing and maybe bring back the daily coronavirus fask force briefings. he suggested you could use disinfectant to treat covid-19. >> some people tried, right? very unsuccessfully? today kellyanne conway was asked whether the president would send his son back to school. what did she say? >> listen to what her answer was. and then we'll talk about it after you see what she said.
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>> that's a personal decision. i don't know what the school has decided or what the first couple has decided with regard to their teenage son. >> it's a tricky one because it is a personal decision. but it's also about whether the president is asking americans to make this personal decision themselves. >> yeah. and there are many parents in the administration. so, it's not like its not a question about sending back their students as they're urging everyone else to fully reopen the schools. it's going toby a question the president may be faced with again. as we're considering if other people in the administration decide to send their kids back to school, you have to consider where they're going to school. they're going to wealthy, more elite, better funded school, ones that may not have the funding to social distance kids
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in their classrooms, the funding to get another bus so they can space out on their way to school. things like that they're having to face with as they're scheduled to go back. and some areas, like alabama, where i'm from a little less than a month from now. and that's why there's so many questions about what decisions is the president making? and the guidance, the longer it takes to come out, the less time teachers and administrators could have to prepare for that opening. >> and we'll have to see what schools -- we already know what schools in the d.c. area are starting to do. some are saying they're not reopening. i have a child in a d.c. school and they're going to start a hybrid model, but not until close to winter. so, we will see how this all changes and evolves. might not even be a decision the president makes. it might be made for him.
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state? >> i do think it's realistic but at the same time it will require an adam silver miracle to pull this off. nobody da nobody does a better job of logistical planning and attention to detail than adam silver and the staff at the nba. and i said several times if the nba can't pull this off, then there is no possible way we can play sports anywhere in this country for a long time because of all they have put into this. if this doesn't work, nothing will. >> the nba has set up an anommous tipline to report players who violate the quarantine rules. what do you think of that hotline? >> i think this whole bubble concept was set up to keep people safe. and it depends on the compliance of everybody within the bubble that nobody pierces the area.
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and so, i think everyone in there has their concerns and they don't want anybody breaking that bubble. so, they should call, absolutely. if you have concerns somebody is doing something that could endanger your health and that of everyone else, you need to point thattout to people and have it dropped off. >> they were asked to blackout their homes at night so they wouldn't see the lights and know where to target. no londoner said it's my right to have lights on. substitute light for masks. i mean, when you see this do you see that changing at all? do you think it's getting better? >> it's definitely not getting better. i saw the representative yesterday talking about how we definitely should not mandate masks.
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and even if he doesn't wear a mask when he goes to the grocery store, the politics are not going away and it makes no sense to me. it's about public health and caring for yourself and in your community. this idea that everything has to be a matter of individual liberty is ridiculous. we require seatbelts in the car for public safety. and that is something that if i get hurt in a car wreck, it's not about injuring me. if i don't wear a mask, it not only effects me, it effects you, and yet we're saying that we can't mandate that for the good of the public. it makes no sense. it's a lack of political courage on the part of the governors who won't enact this. we know it's something that could really help and we refuse to do it. >> so, you're joining us from
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orlando, in the middle of this in florida and you're someone who, it's clear you're taking personally very serious precautions to mitigate risk here. when you think of the surge going on in your state, what do you attribute that to and what needs to get better? >> well, i mean, what we attribute that to is we opened up and we opened way too early and we opened up without necessary precautions. i mean, we still don't have a state-wide mandate on wearing masks. i can toll you publics, the largest supermarket chain here, they announced tuesday will require masks inside the store. it's been really spotty here to see people wearing masks or not. what i don't understand. if you're in the cloud that really wants to open up fully and quickly. then wear a mask and maintain
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social distance. that's our best chance of opening up safely. the people that are against mask wearing, it is going to keep the economy from opening up. it doesn't even make sense to me. >> no. it is illogical to be in favor of reopening and antimask. it's very bizarre. and before i let you go, back the nba. you said look, it will take a miracle, but if anyone can pull it off, it's the nba. what do you think might shut down or restart? two cases, 20 cases? at what point is the threshold? >> i don't know. only adam silver could answer that. if it gets in an active player and somebody plays while infected in a game, it can spread very, very quickly. those guys are indoors, in close contact, breathing hard on each
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other for a prolonged period of time. so, if that bubble gets pierced and testing doesn't identify somebody quickly enough and they're out there playing while infected, it could spread very quickly and shut things down. i think over the first eight or nine days in the bubble they'll begin practicing. i was just on a call today with people from the league office. i think everybody's pretty encouraged with the way things have gone so far. >> all right, sir. it's great to see you. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >> and still ahead a pastor sounding off about a california band that has silenced his church choirs in an effort to stop the spread of a coronavirus. he's suing governor newsom for the right to sing, saying it's mandated in the bible. hey there people eligible for medicare.
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california's new set of coronavirus restrictions is coming under fire again by the religious community. some pastors are suing the governor over the state's ban on singing during worship services. this is a new order issued last week to tell places of worship to discontinue singing in rehearsal and services and chanting and where there is an increased likelihood of contamination. scott thompson is the pastor. he is one of the plaintiffs that is suing the governor. netta higgera is the attorney
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representing the plaintiffs here. and pastor thompson, to you first, tell us why you are suing the governor. >> first of all, thank you, brianna, for having me on the show. and i just want to clarify before we came on there was the statement that we're doing just simply because it is mandated in the bible. honestly i wouldn't -- yes, it is in the bible. clearly all throughout the bible. but deeper than that, i think that part of the concern of ours is that the way the coronavirus is being handled is just only dealing with the physical as peck in people's lives and to be quite honest, we believe that coronavirus is serious. in my family we had a family member, excuse me, a family friend who died from the coronavirus. we're not having our head in the sand and thinking this is not an important issue for a serious
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concern for our church. we have completely listened to many of the mandates that have come through from the government. and we are underneath the 25% capacity and we are underneath the 100% max in our sanctuary. we have provided masks. we have sanitation stations and we have blocked off every other pew so people could have space and we're not in there spitting on each other. often times so we could hear everybody singing so to put a overall blanket ban is kind of a wide brush approach to this. and we believe that beyond just the dealing with people's physical well being, you have emotional and spiritual well being that are also really important. we had one church member who got laid off during this coronavirus and she was in the hospital the next day because she had a stroke because of serious
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stress. there is other issues that are taking place. i know that -- i think anita will mention some statistics on that matter. but we're not angry at governor. we don't want to have our fist in the ground. he is having to deal with this in unprecedented times and making decisions on all different levels of industry and including the church. and so he has the right to do that and we pray for him. i do not preach against him or say he's the devil or anything like that. we absolutely support him and pray for him and his family. but as citizens we have the right to as well disagree on certain issues and this is one for sure that we are standing in disagreement on. >> i think this is been one of the most difficult kind of balancing acts, right, when it comes to what so many people need, they need that spiritual life, this important part of their spiritual life is going to church, singing is so much a part of it for so many people.
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but netta, you've seen some of the numbers, too, right, mt. vernon presbyterian church in washington, these are choir coronavirus outbreaks. the cdc reported 53 infections and two deaths. and in march the netherlands amsterdam mixed choir had 102 infections, one death reported after a concert. how do the plaintiffs in this case, how do you balance this? you don't want to be on this list. >> right. of course. and as you mentioned the choir practice, you had 122 choir members in the same room practicing. which is substantially different than in a church where individuals are socially distanced and wearing masks and singing their worship songs. so there are differences there. but you're absolutely right, we do want to factor in the health concerns and as pastor scott had mentioned, they're taking a lot of precautions and it's about balancing.
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balancing their rights, balancing public health an also mental health of the parishioners and those who do rely on the services and on their faith to help them and get them through which is an important component, when you see suicide through the roof and alcohol and drug abuse and you have this place where they could go for comfort and solace, so it is about balancing all of those factors. >> i have 30 seconds, pastor, when they are singing in church, are they wearing masks? >> no. >> they're not wearing masks. >> i take that back. yes, some are. we're not kicking people out if they're not wearing masks. so yes and no. there are people who are wearing masks but we are not mandating them. we've mandated the separation with the pews and again provided the masks and provided the hand sanitation but we're not
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mandating someone wear a mask. >> i want to thank you both for coming on. it is a tough problem. and churches are obviously, we've heard from so many people who intensely miss that important part of their life. thank you so much. still ahead, a mask showdown in georgia. the governor is suing the mayor of atlanta. tracy abrams weighing in on the debate as the state's coronavirus cases continue to rise. have been. -and always will be. never letting anything get in my way. not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. and certainly not arthritis. new voltaren provides powerful arthritis pain relief to help me keep moving. and it can help you too. feel the joy of movement with voltaren.
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hello, i'm kate baldwin. thank you for joining me. let's let science lead the way today. dr. fauci speaking out and warning that we shouldn't be concerned about any fear of a second wave in the fall only because the crisis in the country right now is so urgent we really can't. >> we had a baseline of about 20,000 cases a day has now gone up to 30, 40, 50, 60 and even 70 on the last count. so we have to do something about that. that is something we need to address. it is a significant issue. people keep talking about the possibility of a second wave in the fall. that's a historic terminology related to another time and another outbreak. i think we need
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