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she's survived by her family and a large number of members of her church. she had a knack for helping other people. may they rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. i'll be back tomorrow for another special edition of the si "situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts now. breaking news dr. anthony fauci just revealing the three things the u.s. needs to do to turn the pandemic around as the world breaks a one-day record in coronavirus cases, the u.s. responsible for many of those cases. plus the mask wars getting uglier, all out brawls getting out of control. top republican governor tells us why he is mandating masks in his state. dr. deborah birx has become the
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most powerful doctor in the white house. at what cost. good evening. i'm erin burnett. breaking news, dr. anthony fauci just speaking out and revealing three things that this country needs to do right in order to get a handle on the deadly pandemic that is right now out of control in this country. >> what we've got to do is reset. you may need to pull back a bit on a phase. you don't necessarily need to lock down, but you've got to do three or four of five minthings that is critical because we know they work. that is universal wearing of masks, close the bars. i think we're going to see a turn around. >> that is the warning tonight from dr. anthony fauci. this as the w.h.o. reports a record in new coronavirus cases around the world. in just the last 24 hours, more than 238,000 new cases. the united states with 4% of the world's population accounting for nearly 30% of those new
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cases with cases trending higher in 38 states. nearly 140,000 americans have died from the virus. at least eight states hitting a record number of deaths this week. and yet the president missing in action. he has not held an event on the crisis in ten days. the last task force meeting he attended was in april. and as for the task force itself, we were told there would be a briefing on friday which never happened. the president did not do something really, really important that he actually did do. >> he never down played -- oh, you're saying he down played the severity of this? this president has taken decisive and bold actions from the beginning. >> okay. well, let's roll the tape. here is the president on march 10th. >> and we're prepared and we're doing a great job with it. and it will go away. just stay calm. it will go away. >> on that day, the u.s. death toll was 28. about a month later, april 9th,
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this was the president. >> there are certain sections in the country that are in phenomenal shape already. other sections are coming online. other sections are going down. >> the death toll in the united states on april 9th, 20,638. 20 days late e, april 20th, the president. >> it's going to leave. it's going to be gone. it's going to be eradicated. >> the dead on that date, april 29th, 61,960 americans dead. may 15th, again the president. >> it'll go away at some point. it'll go away. it may flare up. it may not flare up. we'll have to see what happens. >> on that day, 88,669 americans had lost their lives from coronavirus. june 17th, the president. >> the numbers are very miniscule compared to what it was. it's dying out.
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>> u.s. death toll on that date, 118,363. july 2nd, the president. >> and the crisis is being handled, and we are, likewise, getting under control. >> the death toll on july 2nd, 128,803 americans dead. well, those are not miniscule, dying out, under control, leaving, eradicated, going or any of the other words he used. he down played this. the pandemic has gotten worse and worse. trump knows it and his entire team knows it. just today we learned there is an internal document showed that 18 states are in what they call the red zone and that they, this internal document, recommends those 18 states roll back or pause their reopenings because of a surge in cases.
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that's an internal document that they know about, people there have read. you wouldn't know that from hearing the president over the past few weeks. >> we're working to safely and responsibly reopen our country. we're safely reopening our country. our country is now in the next stage of the battle, a very safe, phased and gradual reopening. >> wow. and the document, 18 states. their own internal document, he's saying the opposite. kaitlan collins is outfront live outside the white house. the president saying things like this. we went through what happened as the death toll surged in this country month after month after month. now he's barely addressed the pandemic for ten days. why? >> reporter: not a single event dedicated to covid-19 happened with president trump this week. instead, he focused on other topics not even going -- when he
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went to atlanta, he didn't visit the cdc even though he was nearby giving a speech on infrastructure. and it seems to be that this concern that the president is not paying attention to what's happening in the country with this pandemic is sinking in with voters. 60% of americans disapprove of the way that the president has handled the pandemic so far. and those are numbers that are concerning to even his advisers. and now some of them are saying publicly they think he needs to start taking a more forward facing approach to this, kellyanne conway suggesting he bring back the daily briefings that were cancelled after he suggested using disinfectants like bleach to try to treat coronavirus, something that no health experts have recommended. erin, just giving you a sense of where the focus has been this week. when you walk into the white house and you're in the grand foyer, you see these two
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portraits of president bill clinton and george w. bush. we are now told that in the last week since the president hosted the mexican president last week and we saw those portraits hanging up, they have been moved to the old family dining room. that's a room that's very small. no visitors go there. it's used for storage of table cloths and old furniture. instead they've been replaced by william mckinley and teddy roosevelt. it's two of the most recent presidents there in the grand foyer usually. and in the last week the white house has moved those. we asked for explanation of why the portraits were moved and if it was the president's decision to move those portraits. they did not respond to request to comment. it gives indication of where the white house focus has been as you're seeing cases soar through the united states. >> moving portraits around at the white house of presidents they don't like. thank you very much, kaitlan. i want to go to dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner who was in the white house, the
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medical team for eight years. so, sanjay, just going to say, i'm pretty disturbed about the whole portrait thing. i don't understand why anybody would have any time to focus on anything like that anybody at any level anywhere. but as i take a deep breath and try to move beyond how disturbed i am by that, the president has not had a coronavirus related event in ten days and we know about the internal document prepared which says opposite of what he said publicly. it recommends they pause or roll back reopening in 18 states, red zone coronavirus states, yet the president saying the opposite. >> yeah, look, the -- i think what's in these documents is pretty much reflective of what i think most people frankly know at this point as they sort of reflect those original gating c criteria that came out from the white house, giving these states the idea of how to safely reopen
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and were basically tossed out the window as soon as they were released. it was basically words, not actions, that came out. we looked at these documents. we looked at these 18 states. none of them are following the criteria. in florida, governor desantis is defending keeping gyms open. that would not be something that the task force would recommend, especially given that florida's one of the hottest spots right now in the world with regard to this. there's a legal battle going on over masks right where i live in the middle of the worse public health crisis in our lifetime. so, this isn't about not knowing at this point. they know. i think most people know that are watching television right now. frankly i think it's incumbent on everybody that's watching right now to speak up. nobody gets to sit this out anymore. >> no. >> everyone has to say something because this is getting ridiculous. people are dying. >> dr. reiner, to this point one of the states in the red zone is
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florida. according to the internal document to the coronavirus task force they should be rolling back. governor desantis as sanjay indicated is recommended that gyms stay open because a healthy lifestyle will make you less likely to get really sick from coronavirus. here's what he said about it. >> if you're in good shape, you know, you have a very, very low likelihood of ending up in significant condition as a result of the coronavirus. >> so, that's -- he was using that, again, as a justification for gyms. does that make sense to you, dr. reiner? is there any situation in which that does add up? >> no, no. if there was a 25th amendment for florida, that statement might trigger it. it doesn't make sense on any level. let's just go through this again for the millionth time. the virus affects people of all ages. the virus doesn't care if you're well or fiat had.
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the virus will infect anyone that it encounters. and the outcome of that infection is not just for the person who acquires it. so, yes, if a heavy weight lifting 18-year-old gets it, that person is likely to do fine. but that person's grandfather at home in their house is likely not to do fine. or the person they encounter on the way home who then gives it to two or three other people. we're talking about viral transmission. the governor of florida was educated in two very world-renowned places but he doesn't act it. this is basic stuff. why are we keeping gyms open when 11,000 people in florida tested positive today? if florida were its own country, it would be among the highest number of cases in the world today. >> so, sanjay, in florida, you know, you have obviously one county with beds full. you have two days in the past seven where you have a record death. and marco rubio is pointing out a big issue here which is that
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the one drug which has been proven to work in some cases to make a difference, remdesivir, has not been available in florida the way it should be. here's where republican senator marco rubio on a tweet, new reports late last night of several hospitals in florida with low or no supplies of remdesivir. shipments are coordinated by the federal government, and we have a bad disconnect between what we think we need and what we really need. new york's governor andrew cuomo offered to send supplies. desantis dismissed that. you have gainsmanship going on. what's going on with remdesivir which the federal government was supposed to be in charge of saying we're going to make sure we stock pile this so when there's a surge it gets to where it needs to go. how come that hasn't been happening and at what cost? >> it's hard to point to the logistics that has worked well here. we heard a lot about the problems with personal
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protective equipment initially, ventilators, and now this one medication which could potentially have some impact. so, it's really unclear. i think i did speak on background today to folks who are helping coordinate things at the level of hhs. they did say that basically bringing in more hospital information through hhs could possibly help address these sorts of problems because they would know ahead of time which hospitals are likely to need things like remdesivir or personal protective equipment. but look, it's very hard for me to be convinced. i mean, i'm a generally pretty optimistic person but nothing has worked well which is why i keep saying jonathan reiner, who is so smart and so eloquent on this, smohould be doing this, should be in charge of this. i know he doesn't want to do that. but we need somebody to create a tsunami of activity to this. we need to overreact to this right now because that will probably be the right level of reaction. >> dr. reiner, i laid out the president over months again and
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again and again saying the virus was going away as the death toll surged from 30 people to 130,000 people. how significant were his words? >> you know, the tone is set by the president, and the president can turn things around very quickly now. if i were a political adviser for the president, which i'm obviously not, i would say to the president, come out to the rose garden tomorrow. tell the country that we're at a pivot point. we're going to take this virus down. everyone's going to wear a mask. we're going open schools only in places that we can open them now. we'll get there eventually. we're going to test like crazy. we're going to get our arms around this. i'm a wartime president, we can do this. let's do it. let's do it together. i'm with you. his polling would go up 15 points overnight, and he would look like he's in charge. instead, he looks like, you know, kind of a sick old man
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opening that things get better. look, he looks like somebody that struggles to get out of bed in the morning. he can turn this around. he needs to be a leader. he needs to do it right now. >> sanjay, i have to ask you about another big story breaking late today, the supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg announced he's undergoing chemotherapy for cancer. she says the treatment is yielding positive results. those are the words. what are you learning about her condition and treatment tonight? >> we can put up the various medical issues she's had over the years, and as you mentioned most recently pancreatic cancer treatment in august of 2019. may of 2020, she had this non-surgical treatment but we now know she actually started another form of chemotherapy at that point. the august 2019 therapy did not work. that was a form of immunotherapy. it's really concerning, erin. i think the type of chemotherapy she started now, that is a type
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of chemotherapy that is typically sort of more of a palliative chemotherapy. it's to try and decrease symptoms. so, you know, she seems to be responding to it. she's 87 years old. she has recurrent pancreatic cancer and she's on a palliative as opposed to a curative treatment. so, it's worrisome. everyone's different, but this is obviously very concerning. >> all right. thank you both very much. and next the white house tonight blocking the cdc from publicly testifying about how to row open schools. why? why would you silence that? plus the battle over masks getting uglier by the day, this time a fight breaking out between two couples in a restaurant. chris christie with a warning for the president, lay out a vision or prepare to lose. ♪ but bristol myers squibb is working to change things.
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breaking news, the white house blocking the cdc director from testifying on reopening schools. the house education committee calling the move alarming as parents, of course, now are in the debate. we're weeks away sending our kids back to school. the cdc also did not release additional guidelines for school as was expected today, saying they're not now going to come until the end of the month, the cdc calling it a miss and dysfunctional. outfront now, dr. william schaffner, a former official with the cdc. that's pretty scary when you
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have the cdc itself saying dysfunctional mess. the white house in the meantime, we know betsy devos, education secretary and the president himself saying we've got to open schools, we've got open schools, and yet here we are. we're not even going to hear the cdc testify about it. >> yeah, it does sound a little bit dysfunctional, doesn't it. fortunately at the local level i think school boards are working with their state and local health departments. they're getting consultation from their academic medical centers. i know some of my pediatric infectious disease colleagues are helping in nashville. everybody's working their way through. but it sure would be great if we had clear guidance from the cdc. that would help everybody obviously. and not to have dr. fauci testify, that doesn't seem at all appropriate. >> so, you know, the guideline now delayed until the end of the month. at that point, you're in it. you've got school districts that now are going online for the beginning of school who would be
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opening. you've got school districts across the country opening weeks from then. if the cdc is going to make any real change it's going to almost impossible to implement them. when we get to big questions like do they put ventilation out there and most public schools don't have central air conditioning or anything of the sort. is there any way that any of this is going to get right in time now? >> everybody is going to be doing their best to do their best, and we're all going to have to watch that very, very carefully. and you know, the countries that have done this successfully have actually controlled community spread first. we haven't done that. we're nowhere near control. it's out of control. so, we're doing what i like to say -- and this will make no parent happy -- a large series of experiments out there. we're trying to find out what will work and can we make things work to reduce the risk for our children and everyone else who works in those schools. >> so, the senior cdc official
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that i mentioned called the situation for the guideline with schools a, quote, mess and dysfunctional. we're hearing people on the ground are making decisions. they used to have autonomy to make decisions on this, but now they have to, quote, run them up the chain of approval to the white house. so, how big of a problem is that? they're also saying people who used to be privy to information in the past who would be central to these decisions are now not, are being choked off. what do you make of that? >> you're breaking my heart, erin. you know i'm president of the cdc fan club and they've been put aside and constrained. and a process that should be working efficiently has now been slowed down and has become very politicized in many ways. that's exactly the wrong way to do it. the countries that have done this correctly have had a national program that put the public health people in front.
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the politicians have stood in the back and they have supported the public health decisions and the communication has been clear, sustained, and very supportive and empathetic. that doesn't sound as though this happens in the united states at all. in fact, quite the opposite. >> no, quite the opposite. and do you know what? people should take heed to what you say. listening to public health officials and having politicians in the background. in many countries around the world that has resulted to kids back in school. different set ups, but kids back in school. they should let public health do what they want. thank you so much. i appreciate your help. next the battle over masks getting uglier. i'm going to talk to the state's governor who is requiring everyone wear masks in public. and dr. debrorah birx, a report
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dr. anthony fauci sending this message to americans who refuse to wear masks. >> even though deep down you want to open up the country and want to get back to normal, by getting infected, you are propagating the process of the pandemic and you are slowing down the process of opening up. >> athena jones is outfront. >> reporter: it's a new epicenter for the virus. florida now leading the nation in cases per capita. >> we are at the center of america's epicenter for covid-19. >> reporter: the virus even forcing the temporary closure of part of the state's emergency operations center after a dozen employees tested positive. the toll on southern florida particularly evident as hospitals in hard hit miami-dade county have started to overflow, intensive care units now at 119% capacity, coronavirus infections trending upward in 38 states with national coronavirus case numbers hitting new highs on a
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near daily basis, topping a record 77,000 on thursday. the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, with a warning. >> people keep talking about the possibility of the second wave in the fall when you're having, you know, up to 70,000 new infections in the certain areas of the country. that's something you need to focus on right now as opposed to looking ahead at what's going to happen in september or in october. >> reporter: and the debate over masks rages on. >> masks are important. >> reporter: despite clear guidance from public health leaders. >> i would urge the leaders, local political and other leaders in states and cities and towns to be as forceful as possible in getting your citizenry to wear masks. >> reporter: in georgia -- >> we continue to see outbreaks in workplaces, in businesses, in congregate settings, daycares, camps, fraternities houses, many
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churches. >> reporter: a legal battle over the mayor of atlanta's mask order. >> mayor bottom's mask mandate cannot be enforced. but her decision to shutter d s businesses is devastating. i refuse to sit back and watch as disastrous policies threaten the lives and livelihood of our citizens. >> the governor is putting politics above the people. for the governor to sue us over a mask mandate when the cdc has told us that it helps save lives really speaks to his lack of leadership. >> reporter: and there is more news on the mask front from one of the hardest hit communities in one of the hardest hit states. starting monday, people in miami will be fined on the first offense, $50 and rise with each additional offense. >> thank you very much.
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outfront now the republican governor of arkansas, governor hutchinson. why did you feel it was necessary to mandate masks in your state? >> for a couple of reasons. of course, wearing masks has become more understood. they understand how important this is to stopping the spread. and so i looked at this as a way to reinforce what people already know, but some of those that are reconsistent so it, this will bring them over the line. we have cases increased in arkansas. we have doctors on the front line. they need the support. they're asking for this mandate. then i think about our school children. i've delayed the opening of school for a couple of weeks in arkansas to give us more time to prepare. but eventually they're going to be going to school and they're going to be wearing a mask under both circumstances.
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so, if we're going to be insist upon that with our school children and try to bring education back, i think as adults we need to set that example as well and prepare them for it. so, it was the right decision. i resisted it because it is an infringement upon what somebody's comfort or what they want to do, but it is necessary in this public health crisis. so, we did that. we're working through all the issues around that. but it was a necessary thing to do for our state. >> and, you know, as you point out, look, there's some intense fights over this because it became, unfortunately, political even though it is a public health issue, as you point out. there's a viral video out of a lot of places. now there's one out of your state. two couples at a restaurant, one couple wears masks, the other couple not got too close and it led to a physical brawl which we see here. it's not just your state. yesterday we had the man sharing this meeting in utah which had
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to to be cancelled because a hundred people showed up and packed the room, didn't social distance. why do you think it has gotten so ugly? >> i hope that's the exception and it is the exception and not the rule. most people understand it. but it's -- we've got to get over any divide on this issue. it is important. i've said this from the very beginning. we have to make decisions based upon the public health guidance. i listened to our dr. fauci who is a dr. smith and a dr. romero here in arkansas, and it's clearly the guidance of the public health community. there shouldn't be any politics about it. that's just what it is necessary. and i think people are understanding that. it's not a partisan issue here in our state. some people resist it. it's not on that basis. it's just that they live in a rural part of the state. they don't think that's necessary. but we're trying to show that our -- the spread can be anywhere in our state, even the rural areas. >> so, today there were some strong words from the former new jersey governor chris christie,
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one of your former colleagues, tonight. this is about president trump's re-election chances in november. let me play for you. >> he's concerned about the election. there's no doubt. the president went from a strong position in early february to an underdog position now. there's no question he's the underdog. and i think joe biden is a very formt ab formidable opponent and the president has got to get to work in laying out his vision. if he doesn't do that, he will lose. >> your colleague said it's a tough road to re-election. those were his quotes. do you agree? are you concerned trump can lose? >> president trump is in a good position in arkansas to win re-election. of course it's a big country and obviously the battleground states are in a different position. but yes, chris christie said it right, and he's the undergoing right now. he's focusing on the economy. and by the way in, aark, our
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unemployment rate dropped to 8% today, 3 percentage points below the national average. he's focusing on the job creation side. he also simultaneously needs to be able to focus and have a message in regard to the greatest health crisis that we've had in our lifetime. and so when you're president, you've got to deal with both of those crises going on at the same time. and by the way, his team is doing a masterful job. nothing's perfect. we all make mistakes in this. i've talked to them today. they're engaged in this. they're supporting this. they're trying to look for solutions. so, the team is working hard. and the president, though, has to have both messages, economic as well as health. >> we all hear you loud and clear. thank you very much governor hutchinson. i appreciate your time, sir. >> all right. thank you. next the long term effects of coronavirus. >> suddenly i was falling over in the street, tripping over a
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paving stone that was clearly in front of my eyes, dropping a bowl of sugar because when i went to get it i missed it. >> i'm going to speak to a researcher who is looking at this. and dr. deborah birx, walking a fine line between her and president trump. how is that balance doing for her? well the names have all changed since you hung around but those dreams have remained and they've turned around who'd have thought they'd lead ya back here where we need ya welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you.
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tonight, a new survey revealing thousands of coronavirus patients reporting new and dangerous symptoms with long-term consequences, concentration issues, memory issues, severe headaches, chronic diarrhea months after they had the virus. most of the patients who are saying this did not have severe cases at the time. 91% of them did not go to the hospital when initially diagnosed. joining me now michael rutger. he studies the long term effects of the coronavirus. michael, i appreciate you taking the time. so, you've been looking at people who think they got away easy, mild symptoms, just barely even got sick. you're now finding thousanding of them are reporting new and worse symptoms months after they had coronavirus with 60% of them
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still unable to go back to work after 80 days. how shocked were you to learn this? >> we were surprised by that finding. i can't say they had mild symptoms. they had symptoms but not as bad that they had to go to the hospital. we set up this website to care for these people. it turned out most people came to the website and whom we sent a questionnaire, most people had not be in the hospital. about 87% were not in the hospital. and had the same symptoms and the same number of symptoms and the same severity of symptoms as the people who went to the hospital and survived. so, it was quite surprising. >> so, you say 87% of the people you surveyed were not hospitalized. but many are having severe symptoms now including intense fatigue, shortness of breath, increased heart rate while they're resting, palpitations,
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elevated pulse, chronic diarrhea, severe memory issues to the extent that some of them feel they can't mentally be the same as they were before. >> yeah. >> i mean, what are the -- is there any part of the body that isn't affected? what stands out what you saw in people's responses? >> we were surprised that it was not only symptoms related to lung disease. it was also symptoms related to all kind of other organs, as you mentioned. so, we are surprised about it. the people were surprised about it as well. and these symptoms, they keep ongoing for so long, at least 80 days. we're going to send them a questionnaire again in 1 1/2 months and find out how they are now. but we are not hopeful that -- we are hopeful, of course, that they recover. but the speed of recovery seems to be quite slow. and that's a worrying thing, especially from our group.
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dozens haven't gone to work 80 days after the first infection which is really worrying, especially now in the u.s., i guess, if it happens to you with thousands of people, if you translate our results to your country, then those people who are that sick, can't go to work, cause bigger problems for them apart from the unemployment which is already soaring. >> it's deeply worrying and troubling because we just don't know how long these last, whether these are life long for people. >> no. >> which is why it's so terrifying. i've talked to a lot of coronavirus patients who talk about their effects. one of them is our richard quest. here's what he said. >> suddenly i was falling over in the street, tripping over a paving stone clearly in front of my eyes, dropping a bowl of sugar because when i went to get it, i missed it. >> obviously coronavirus is supposed to be a respiratory virus but you have also seen
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people talk about these sort of neurological effects. >> yep. we have. indeed, we've heard from people who have memory loss, who have difficulty in focusing, concentrating, difficulty putting a few sentences together. and it does improve, but it improves quite slowly. as this disease is developing now, we don't know what the disease will look like in the long term. we're monitoring those people. we're getting a lot of messages from these people. and together with them, we try to build up an idea on how to care for them because if we don't have the disease, we don't know how to care for those people and we don't know how to give them assistance to regain their life and their livelihood. so, it's important, i think to develop research, to get the care system in place to support
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people and to improving. training will help. nutrition will help. there are several things which we could do and can do, but we have to work our way slowly forward to develop proper care. >> okay. >> for them. >> well, michael, i really appreciate your time. thank you very much. and next dr. deborah birx has become one of the president's most trusted advisers on coronavirus. some of her peers are telling cnn that there are some questions now about her credibility. and w. kamau bell speaking with his mother about growing up black in america. to return to the workplace, safely, companies will need the right tools. that's why salesforce created work.com it's an all-new suite of apps, expertise, and services. to manage this crisis today, and thrive tomorrow. everything companies need to return to the workplace.
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quietly emerging as the most powerful person in the trump white house on the coronavirus and her path there an unlikely one. >> the common sense of washing your hands, not touching your face. >> reporter: as the relationship between dr. anthony fauci and president trump soured over the past few months. >> i find him to be a nice person. i don't always agree. >> it's a czabizarre. i don't understand it. >> reporter: she's effectively running the task force day to day and the on member to brief the vice president and white house officials daily. >> dr. birx briefed me before coming out here. >> reporter: at times birx herself has taken the podium wearing her signature scarf and a mask to match. >> i just want to mask and be a fashion statement. >> reporter: she spearheaded administration's recent decision to have hospitals send covid-19 information to a new federal database. by passing the centers for
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disease control and prevention. an agency birx often complained about to colleagues sources say. she is also a forceful advocate for the president's push to reopen schools. tasked with creating new reopening guidelines after trump called the cdc's plan too tough and expensive and works closely with the president's son-in-law jared kushner that praised her to cnn saying she's an outside the box thinker and not afraid to get dirt under her fingernails. kushner credits birx for comiei up with an idea to speed supplies to hospitals, many of which complained they didn't have what they needed. birx work in two previous administrations and one of the rare political appointees held over from the obama administration. >> i'm particularly grateful to president obama for his bold leadership. >> reporter: her staying power in numerous administrations during three decades in washington has come at no small
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cost to her management style and notoriety to pears. her reputation is finished following her silence when trump publicly suggested injecting disinfectant might be a virus care. >> i see the disinfectant where it new yorks knocks it out in a one minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection? >> reporter: along with her duties on the task force, birx is a u.s. global aids coordinator. former colleagues describe her as a no non-sense leader. >> from the very beginning, it's been a bold expert the. >> reporter: the state department i.g. report characterized the leadership as directive and auto cat tick. birx is never mentioned by name but almost a dozen people interviewed by cnn says she was partly responsible for fostering a toxic work environment but it
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was said her tough leadership led to results with one calling her reputation quote dazzling and as she continues to combat covid-19, five months in she's facing testing lags and a rise in hospitalizations and death toll in parts of the country. and the white house push back on the notion dr. birx lost standing in the public health community, a spokesperson for the vice president's office said her goal is to quote put health and safety before any other considerations and the senior administration official told me that dr. birx doesn't try to play to the press that she is in this role to be effective and build trust, we should note, erin, that cnn reached out to dr. birx for an interview and she did not respond to our request. >> pamela, thank you very much. next, w.camal bell about the challenges he's faced growing up black in this nation.
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impact of white supremacy, systemic racism. he talks to his mother about what that meant for them. here is a clip. >> i was very conscious about that, and i remember when you were a little guy, you know, 6, 7 years old and there was a drugstore near us and we would shop in, and as soon as we walked in the door, the store detective would follow us. i said be really careful and i pointed out the store detective because we're always being watched. >> i remember that lesson and it sticks to me today. so much so that i'm aware of when i'm in stores now as a fully grown adult where my hands are. >> uh-huh. >> and then, you know, as a kid i aware because i didn't want to be arrested and as an adult, i'm aware because i don't want to be killed. >> yeah. >> it's pretty incredible as all of his programs have been. every single one of them. tonight 10:00 eastern, you
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definitely don't want to watch -- sorry, sunday night 10:00 eastern all time zones. definitely watch. thanks so much for joining us. cuomo prime time with chris cuomo starts now. >> erin, have a great weekend. your clock is right. i'm in for anderson. we have a jammed pack two-hour show for you tonight. big guest. we have a trump with us this evening, mary trump. fresh off the heels of her uncle's first tweet about her new tell all book that is selling like hot cakes. nearly a million copies on just it's first day. the president finally weighed in on it tonight. that was going to be my starting angle, i can't believe he hasn't said anything and typical fashion, he takes down his niece just like anybody else that says something he doesn't like but what is her response? you're going to hear from mary trump what it's like to grow up in that family, what the family is like, what donald trump is a