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r i'm w. kamau bell. ap and we're talking all t white supremacy. tp the obviothe obvious st subtle versions. we filmed this before covid-19 hit and months before the minneapolis police killed george floyd and all the protests that followed. before many of us had ever heard of defunding the police, and before the president and his cronies used racism to describe the coronavirus which led to a hate crimes against asian-americans. you don't have to look to history to see racism. just watch the news.
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the question is, are we finally ready to do the work it takes to really make america the just equitable and great place it has claimed to be? the first episode of the united shades of america. such an innocent time. many of you remember it because i hear about it all the time. you're the kkk guy. america doesn't even have that time of racism anymore. you're right. it's gotten way worse. and that was all before covid-19 and before four cops in minneapolis killed george floyd. before protests, a police station burning to the grounds.
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before too many karens, before flattening the curve. and a president incapable of handling any of it at all. oh, look, baby's first bible! america is finally ready to get real about whil white supremacy. let's start super easy and basic. these are white supremacists. 44 white presidents out of 45 in a lands originally 100% native-american is white supremacy. white supremacy is a big complicated web of systems and institutions set up to keep power and privilege with one race. guess which one?
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♪ pittsburgh is a paradox. it is known as steel town usa but the factories that came with that name are mostly gone. it's a progressive liberal at this but in the heart of deep red western p.a., it's an industrial city, but also a booming intellectual and technology hub. it is america's most livable city, one of the safest, most affordable cities, and the worst city in america for black people. wait, what? what in the name of pittsburgh's mr. rogers is going on? the paradox of a seven times higher infant mortality rate for black babies over white babies, or a safe, livable city versus the attack on jewish people in
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our nation's history at the tree of life synagogue means in pittsburgh, like in america, the history and structure of white supremacy has us living two totally separate realities. existing while black in pittsburgh is like starving to death while in the supermarket aisle. i didn't come up with that. a friends of mine who is a great writer and a pittsburgh native did. >> what section of town is this? >> we're on the south sides. >> if you ever hear about the pittsburgh steelers getting arrested, it happened here. it always happens here. >> that's funny. >> david young is a writer and a co-founder of one of my favorite websites. very smart brothers. he was born and raised here. and most importantly after he made it, he stayed here. >> i feel like pittsburgh is the market place of america. i think we believe our own hype.
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just as america kind of believes its own hype, its lofty missions written by slave owners. and there's a reason why white people in pittsburgh seem to be thriving and black people are not. we didn't get this way just because of unconnected decisions. >> that's why i think when white people hear the word white supremacy, they are only thinking about the klan. segregation now, segregation forever. but they're not thinking about the structure that's exist in this country that keep black folks at the bottom. and it is not about hate. yes. >> it's not about hate? >> yeah. you can have a black best friends and your favorite show, you could have the poster on your wall, you could do all that and still have an investment in white supremacy. >> many people white supremacy is like neo-nazis and kkk members. but those guys are just the most visible tim of the iceberg along
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with genocide, lynching, hate groups. the stuff good folks agree is bad. beneath that cold dark water is actually most of the structure that keeps white supremacy rolling along. like police brutality. some states not having lives against hate crimes. the legacy of jim crow laws. much, much more. and then as we move deeper down the iceberg, hearing race jokes and not challenging them. being black in america. all lives matter. all the way down to, i never even owned slaves! the problem is it is too easy to look at the top and say, what a bunch of ass holes. that's white supremacy and i'm not that. and miss everything else. >> slavery ended. then the lakers and the celtics
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played. >> yeah, yeah, magic johnson and larry bird were friends. >> when disparities exist with wealth, with education, with employment, with incarceration. these disparities exist everywhere in the country. in pittsburgh, they're more stark. >> two cities happening here. yeah. >> while black communities in pittsburgh deal with huge racial disparities and quickly gentry identifying neighborhoods, steel neighborhoods like braddock outside the city are grappling with a common experience for cities across the entire nation. the compound effects of industrial pollution and long term systemic white supremacy. >> this is the town that steel built. this is where mostly a lot of
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the black folks lived back in the day but all of this area was occupied. and this is the steel mill. they worked right there. >> i can see smoke coming out of there. >> they say it's steam. >> i've heard that before. >> folks used toley on top there. all day, all night. this is the sound they heard. a lot of people look at this and laugh. why would anyone want to stay here? we're talking about people who have their social networks here. that's the school my mom went to when she was in junior high. so a lot of the folks who lived here, they've been here generations. >> pittsburgh born but raised in braddock. she is the state rep for the 34th district. >> this is the place where so many of our family members spent all their days. the town used to run by the schedule at u.s. steel. the bell would ring. one shift would go out, another one would go in and that's how the town ran.
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that's how everybody knew what time it was. this is u.s. steel's town. >> by the 1960s and '70s, suburbanization moved braddock up the hill and into the valley. with discriminatory home lending, all legal until 1968. but in the more than 50 years since, it is clear that changing the law has not changed the real the jobless rate is over 1 in pittsburgh. when the united states steel industry chanced in the '80s, braddock, the town that lived and died for steel, was left with the problem and little else except for some of the worst air qualities in the u.s. of a. >> we look at wages, we look at environmental issues, education, when we look at the school to prison pipeline, mass incarceration, we see those as issues in and of themselves. in reality, they're all part of the cycle of racism.
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a perfect example. take them out of town. black folks, most of them live there because at some point they were red lined policies, predatory lengthing, those things all clueded to ensure that black kids couldn't get into communities where there were more opportunities. so ghettos. our supreme court says education can be funds at the local level. you live in this town, you get one educational experience. you live in the suburb, you get a vastly different one. you live in this community, you're more likely to live near an environmental hazard. steel. you're more likely to live in a food desert. in the zip code where we are, we have no grocery stores. we had a hospital that was notoriously closed down and you're less likely to have transportation in and out of your community. you're literally and physically trapped in your communities. that means you have now bought your kid a one-way ticket right
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back into that cycle. that's racism. where do you even start to dismantle that? >> you just broke it all the way down, didn't you? >> it seems to me you're in a town that has money and a good school district, you look at this and say they created that problem. white supremacy convinces people systemic problems are problems those people created. >> even if they give a leg up to black folks, we're doing something for people that we dehumanized. those are welfare queens. they're just leeching off the system. that's how we framed it in this country. it is to leach off the system. just last year, one of the facilities caught fire. the day before christmas. we didn't finds out until two, three weeks later.
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even me, the state rep for this area, every other government official, we found out on the news when it was like, hey, there was a big fire. if you live in any of these communities we suggest you don't go outside. we're supposed to be grateful for the jobs. why can't we be grateful for the jobs and also be healthy? >> in the wake of covid-19, some people are wondering why black folks are affected at a higher rate? >> why is it, more so than other people, that doesn't make essential. >> back to the iceberg. >> black communities generally have worse air quality which heeds to chronic health and respiratory issues and then oh, yeah, we have less access to health care and healthy food. then you throw a pandemic in. >> we have a billion-dollar industry in our town. braddock has about 500 properties filled with vacant lots, basically a ghost of what
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while summer fights the good fight for braddock, 30 miles northwest, the blue towns along the ohio river are mostly white and conservative. they all deal with an enemy coming across america. post industrial job loss and poverty. one might think that the shared struggle would bring people closer, but nope, because our fears and frustrations have been used to divide us and we all know that can ends in violence. on october 27, 2018, an alt right supremacist from just south of the city killed 11 people at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. his online manifesto was packed with language blaming jewish people and immigrants for the problems facing the white working class. this is just part of the rising tide of racist hostility in america. you don't have to take my word on that. i brought an expert. >> are you nervous? >> yeah! a little.
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>> no way. >> i'm scared of what you might get me to say. >> cnn's kamau bell. >> if you're watching cnn and you are hearing talk about racism in america, it is probably sarah. >> you are running after hate, you know? >> you have to recognize that hatred often comes from a place of fear and pain. the fear is someone else is taking over, and i'm going to be a minority. one of the big themes is the browning of manager. i'm a white supremacist's worst nightmare. not because i attack them but because of who i am. my mother is caucasian and my father is black. i am mixed race. i am changing america. >> yeah. >> here we are, sitting in this
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town. it is like a lot of towns in this area, it used to be an industrial town. it used to be good union jobs. >> you retired and you had a pension. >> yes. and then the industrialation happens, jobs go overseas, people start to get frustrated. >> scape goating starts. who do you blame? you don't want to blame yourself, right in you don't want to blame your family or your community. so you look at who could be the scape goat. the immigrants. even if there isn't an immigrant to be seen in your community, they're to blame for taking my livelihood and therefore, taking my life. it gets people in this place, hatred is okay because i'm protecting myself and my family. but the other thing is it can feel good. >> hatred can feel good.
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>> am i wrong? it's powerful. >> no, you're not wrong. >> young boys get on the internet and in their feeds will have memes that seem real funny, but really, they're teaching. i've had a conversation with a mother who. my 13-year-old boy had a hitler meme that he thought was funny, right? it was in his feed. he didn't go searching for it. if you click on it, you get more, right? you get more and more. so you're filling young people up with things that they're normalizing. normalizing this. >> they're being if he had more hate per pounds than any generation has been fed. >> it certain places, it grows into it. >> in 2019 that hate turned
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violent in another livable city when a 29-year-old supremacist live streamed murder of 51-year-old worshippers in christchurch, new zealand. >> that's the gunfire. >> that was amazing to watch. >> 50 is a great score. >> god bless him with the light to his path right now. >> i love that and fortnight, too. >> i like the name. >> it's cool. rough. >> i subscribed to brenton terrance. you are innocent and will get out in no time. >> wow!
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>> yeah. it's a lot. >> so somebody posted -- >> you have no idea where it came from? >> no. nothing. >> and they're all excited about the perpetrator in new zealand. >> yeah. terror tactics. >> the first little girl was clearly watching something where you're hearing gunshots. >> yeah, yeah. >> those are kids. >> those are kids. >> pete, ph.d. is an associate professor at chapman university. >> there are people well educated, involved in these groups from middle which is a back grounds, we have this broader historical ingrained, almost in our psyche in white supremacy that's just floating around out there and everyone is us is emible in some form or another. >> and a lot of it has been super charged with social media
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and the internet. >> absolute liflt that has opened so many doors. white sprupremacists have been distributing propaganda. >> as access to the web grew, it moved from isolated clusters to globally interconnected organizations to the pipeline for the disenfranchised and the teenager. >> everybody in the house, put your hands up. >> meet felix and his channel, cutie pie. >> the new zealand, they mentioned it. cute videos and funny pranks and every now and again, some hate speech comes through. pay people to hold signs up on
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video that say that. >> i feel partially responsible. i didn't think they would do it. >> meanwhile the neo-nazi daily stormer thanked him saying it normalizes naziism. >> how did you get the name? >> i want to thank the emperor for being here. >> and that kind of normalization of hate doesn't just happen on youtube. it happens in the halls of government where the stakes are much higher. >> we saw it in the 2016 election with donald trump. and in the case of many of his advisers, like stephen miller. >> the word racist gets thrown around a lot. by me. but miller who writes trump's immigration policy is in my humble opinion, the real deal. which of course he denies. of course. but he has a well documented history of pushing anti-minor agendas. miller was the author of the
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child separation order policy and the travel ban on mostly muslim countries. he has also long coveted a full immigration ban, citing the 1924 immigration act which banned european jews which he is, in favor of nordic races, and based on the same book that hitler called his bible. >> why are we having all these people come here? from places like norway. >> that's classic eugenics, classic miller, classic racism. again, in my humble opinion. >> you don't have to be wearing a klan robe or have a swastika on your forehead to be a white supremacist. we have to be more honest about what supremacy looks like. >> five teenagers pressured,
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getting the confessions. >> of course i hate these people. maybe hate is what we need to get something done. >> we provided additional information about the site of my birth. >> the progressive congresswoman should go back to the crime inif he issed places from which they came. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sendsing their best. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. >> knock the crap out of him. seriously. when you see these thugs out of the paddy wagon, i said please don't be too nice. >> nothing good can happen. when that language is used by our leaders, it spreads. so when you see how far it can go, how hatred can grow and then turn into not just words, but then actions, and then become deadly. i sat down with a couple, they
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and their daughter jordan were 22 of 22 people killed by a suspected terrorist at an el paso walmart. the mother was holding her child. the child survived, just a baby. you can't sit there and talk to families without having that sit on you. forever. right? thinking about them. >> i mean -- sorry. >> thinking about that family and what they will have to tell this child who has no idea, right in why his mother and father are not there. because somebody hated immigrants. how do you explain that, right? how do you -- how do you even
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begin to explain that? that will forever bother me. i'm sorry. >> no, no. that's all right. it's all right. >> i was really not expecting this. see, this was what i was afraid of. >> i didn't even do anything! >> welcome to my house. i cry on this show all the time. it's what we do to move through these moments. >> the families that i talk to, they give me life. i see that they're able to function. they're able to move forward in their lives. they have no choice. they're still here. that fills me with, okay, get up. go do your job. cnn, el paso. hey lily from at&t here. today, we're talking with sara. hey lily, i'm hearing a lot about 5g. should i be getting excited? depends. are you gonna want faster speeds?
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>> a good illustration. thank you. >> in 2020, the endowment released a study that showed how pittsburgh broadcast news that depicted african-americans as athletes or criminals 72% of the time. how do you finds your own voice when it feels like your city bases your entire tackle on how you break tackles or how you break laws. one agency that shows how to work in media and take charge of their own narratives. so when my friends, rammer, activist, one friend founder, asked me to talk to the which is a on industry, i did. >> we're gone! we're country! for kentucky! >> this is a symbol of god's love.
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>> that's the final scene from the else. >> were those people real clansmen? >> oh, yeah. this is not a sketch. >> i knew the klan existed. hearing them really say those things, i had to laugh. wow, they really believe this. >> they've got god and kentucky on the same level. >> yeah. god and kentucky. what? >> klan imagery is older. did your generation have that same fear? >> i'm not scared if i go down south that i'll get linked. i'm more scared when i go outside the house. i am a going to get shot by a police officer. >> what he just said is the whole show. it's easy to avoid the kkk.
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you can avoid the kkk. but the police? you'll have to deal with the police. >> a 2018 rutgers university study showed that media important trails which foster fear of black men were a significant factor in a five times higher rate of unarmed black men being shot by police than unarmed white men. that fear has justified not only excessive force but also claims of self-defense. >> i think a lot of it has to do with, when you see us on main stream media, we're dehumanized. when antwaan gets killed, oh, that's a young black dude. >> houyou know how it goes afl young black 17-year-old. he was fired from his previous post. he volunteered, he was an honor roll student and had never been in trouble with the law. while many outside the community focused on a drive-by shooting he was allegedly involved in. this community finds it hard to
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focus only since the officers shot him in the back as he was running away. completely unarmed. >> when the trial happen, it was this idea that it would be violence. so a courthouse surrounded by police. they shut it down around the courthouse. >> the police presence exponentially grew every day. it got thicker and thicker. it was wild down there. it was madness. >> a bunch of well armed white folks marching on the steps of the building. this was just two and a half months after the tree of life massacre. it was to protest proposed gun regulations that were hoping the avoid another massacre. why would we want to do that? when white folks show up at rallies, no matter how violent
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or ridiculous they are, they're given the benefit of the doubt. look at these two rallies. in one case the cop shut down the street for the rally. >> i just imagine us saying, we're going to ride with our guns. and how far would that bus get before a bomb hits it? to me this is where white supremacy really functions. we gave them no reason to believe -- >> none -- >> that it would be any time of violence. we protested all year and every single protest was nonviolent. the verdict came out friday 90. that following monday, protesters torgd harshest protest that pittsburgh has ever seen.
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you had 3,000 to 5,000 young people taking to the streets. that's what gave me hope. seek how they organized and the manner in which they showed up. that's never the narrative. >> and we are seeing that narrative play out again. the protests following the killing of george floyd have been some of the most powerful since martin had that dream. and it is easy to see the disparity. remember, george floyd was killed over suspicion of having a fake 20. but here they bought him burger king. you know how the media is. never failing to portray black people as scary while completely ignoring the issues at hands. >> for the past week all of us have seen chaos engulf our
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beloved country. what do the mobs want? >> while many of you get caught up in, why are people rioting? well, your hero martin loorth he king jr. said a riot is the language of the under heard. and somebody else said, it is hard to start a riot when everybody else has good job, a full belly, well educated kids, access to health care and feels safe and protective. try getting someone to though a brick through a window for you then. that was me. i said that. >> this may be a lot of things, but it is been black lives. reb remember that when they come for you and they will. >> that's why he's advertising pillows. >> i see you. >> all of this shows why black folks need to have control over our own narrative. a 2019 american society of news editors shows the overwhelming ma juror of roles in news rooms
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are held by white people. no surprise. no matter the diversity of the stories, they're filtered thank you white lens. regardless of perceptions, this influence what's people of color have to live with and in too many cases, die with. >> a lot of people's experience with diversity does come from the media. for myself, too. growing up in it. that was my outlet to be connected. i have learned that it is important to be the person in the room. you can't expected other people to speak for you. >> i think you know this but the power is behind the camera. you can want to be on camera. but you want to work to get the letters behind your name that say executive producer. the director. that's when you can make
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decision that's change culture. ryan cougler is the power. tyler perry is the power, oprah is the power. so the fear for these young people isn't of the klan or nazis but how the way they are seen will affect them the next time, a job interview, a bank, a police officer, the power is in the hands of the decision makers. we need to get into those seats to make new rules. at visionworks, we know there's lots of things
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are you all ready for the blues? ♪ ♪ when i left my happy home i had a woman of my own ♪ ♪ now i have a hole in my heart and a guilty conscience on my mind ♪ >> there's a bar called the silver dollar lounge. basically an all white bar. i was the only black guy in the bands. i came off the bands stand on break and somebody walked up to me and put their arm around my shoulder. man, i sure like your piano
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playing. this is the first time i heard a black man play like jerry lee lewis. he said he got it from the same place i did. from blues and boogie woogie. oh, no, i never heard a black man play it like you. it was fascinating until he went to buy me a drink. and he said this is first time i ever sat down and had a drink with a black man. i said why? his budsy elbowed him and said, tell him, tell him. i said tell me. he said i'm a member of the church cluku klux klan. i burst out laughing. >> that was your response? >> yeah. >> we all say we're one of a kinds but in his case, that's true. he has made his living as a musician but he's made it his life's work to convert kkk members back into humans.
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many. his fans thought i was stealing his gig. >> take a bag of skittles. taste the individual colors. it's even better. >> i don't want his gig. >> the first episode of the tv show. i met with the klan but you go all the way in. >> and i incur the wrath of some people for that. >> yes. who do you incur the wrath of? >> mostly black people. they have a visceral reaction when they see a picture, as would i, if i saw a picture of a black person shaking hands with a -- what the? sometimes when black people are angry with me about the work i'm doing, it's not that i agree with them but i understand where they come from. i get the situation, that they don't have any time or any room for a black person to sit across from a klansman. >> can i ask you a question? if we don't have time to sit down and work out our issues,
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what is the answer? we have to stop thinking, i'm not my brother's keeper. i am my brother's deeper. i think the challenge is, who do you define as your brother? a lot of black folks would not define a klansman as your brother. this is entire country is my community. a black neighborhood, a white neighborhood, a jewish neighborhood, i'm an american. i see human an in everybody. >> he's been directly or indirectly responsible for the conversion of 200 white supremacists and he's brought them here to tell their stories. none of them are from pittsburgh. these are exwhite supremacists. i home. >> i want to go around the table saying your name. how long have you been out of the organization and what were your titles in the organization in darrell, how long have you been out of the klan?
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>> depends who you ask. >> still in! >> tell me about yourself. >> i'm jeff scoop. i was with the national socialist movement. i was the national director, xhamdser for the united states. i was there 27 years. >> jeff school was a leader of the national socialist movement. the united states' largest neo-nazi group from 1994 until just recently in 2019. yikes! >> i've been out since about ten months now. >> you're fresh still. i mean, ten months. if this is recovery, that's still early days. >> i think it will be recovery for the rest of our lives, actually. >> he was born in germany. he became a neo-nazi. then he moved to america and joined the kkk. you know what they say, when in rome. >> so what was it specifically? can you think
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>> some of the final straws for me was the violent acts. the tree of life shooting. the mosque shooting in new zealand, poway, california. you make up excuses in our mind. i could say, well, at least it wasn't anybody from nsm that did it. but a lot of times with the organizations, the leaders served as a pressure. we were telling people don't, don't, don't. literally before an event or a rally, you had to tell people no calls to violence. >> all the negative energy and what you are putting out, if it wouldn't be that way, you wouldn't have to tell your members don't, don't, don't. >> even though jeff says he's out, not everybody trusts he's out. that includes the southern poverty law center. he was a leading hate monger for 25 years. it feels like it should take
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more than 10 years to go from the hate list to the hugs list. >> when i heard neo-nazis, they will put all the hate and say, we don't advocate viviolence. i feel like you are creating a culture of violence. you know. i was not the nonviolent racist. i was like, i am violent. and i will attack you. and i'm here to kill people. >> did you ever practice violence? >> every day. i was literally a wash in. >> a form ernie you nazi skin head. he approaches all the anti-racism work he does with the same vigor he approached being a white supremacist with. >> we would get joe pissed off white kid. we would blame it on jews, black
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people, gay people so they don't have to look inward and do the difficult work of looking at their own life. i would blast into their mind that we were at war, that our race is going to be wiped off the planet earth. >> so you were fighting people, attacking people? >> yeah. >> were you ever arrested for it? >> i was arrested for it many times. i spent a lot of weekends in jail. i never caught a case because i was a white kid. >> i'm glad you said it. >> i say it all the time. if a black or latino kid did after the things i did, they would be in jail. that's just the way it works. >> white privilege. >> of all these men, scott shepherd has been out the long e, but his ties run the deepest. and he comes from notorious klan
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history. scott's godfather killed medgar evers. >> i've served as grand dragon in tennessee. i spent over 20 years in the movement. when i was in the klan there was a little voice in the back of my head that said, do you believe what you're really doing? and i also had a deep secret they didn't know. i was raised by a black lady. >> many southern children were raised by black nannies and surrogate moms that knew the kids better than their biological mom. >> did she know you were in the klan? >> oh, yeah. yeah. and i had a lot of guilt from that. i disenfranchised myself from her. and didn't see her.
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when i did get out of the klan, i knocked on the door, and she opened the door. and not only was her arms open, her heart was, too. i knew i had been on a long, crazy journey, but i was home. of course she's passed away now. she passed away at 103, two days before her birthday. and i thank god that i was able to reunite with her before she passed away. i'm a mississippi boy, raised by a black lady and then ended up in the klan. >> i made some of my best friends from people in the klan because i have been around people since a young child of different backgrounds. so i wasn't allowed to become radicalized. my parents were in the u.s.
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service. so i spent a lot of time overseas. being around so many people, if i had not had that experience, would i be fooling with these people? probably not. and our society can only become one of two things. it can become that which we sit back and let it become or we can become that which we stand up and make it. and i have chosen the latter. >> now, this show has put some strange stuff in front of my eyes, but, ladies and gentlemen, welcome darrell davis and the ex-supremes. ♪ ♪
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the truth is, as much as we're surrounded by it, we rarery talk about the bottom of the iceberg. we're fascinated by the violence white supremacy creates.
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the responsibility is on them to bang the drums, do the interviews and clean up the damage. the tree of life massacre was one of those days in america that makes zero sense when you hear about it. but then you quickly remember that days like these have become more common. i won't go over the details. you can do that on your own. i'm here because of what came after. ♪ >> there was a community modelled how to behave at a time of trauma to the jewish community. outside the tree of life as the incident unfolded said something to the effect of because this is where we knew we needed to be. but it didn't end there. they started a gofundme page and
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said, don't worry about the funerals. we're taking care of that. >> we have similar burial practices. we knew it had to be immediate. >> we returned the love and kindness six months later, the horrific attack in two mosques. tree of life put together gofundme pages and sent like $650,000 to christ church. >> we do that all the time. those things don't get highlighted because we don't boost about the things we do. >> i think it's a really important message that for people who wonder can jews and muslims get along? well, why not. >> yeah. >> this they have worked together since the tree of life shootings to bring peace and
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unity to the city. >> well, horror drew us together. but that's not what unites us. the horror was a call to action, and we both recognized that action is required but to do that you need to find partners to effect change. >> i feel like generally in america, non-jewish americans thought anti-semitism was a thing of the past. >> unless you experience it personally, you don't necessarily know that it's anti-semitism. i think i was about ten years old, came home one day from school and in the driveway were a couple swastikas in chalk. i thought that was the price to pay to live in the united states. >> a lot of black people feel like, as long as we're not experiencing the harshest end of
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raci racism, you start to not complain about things you should complain about because you're like, at least it's not worse. >> when is the last time you were here? >> oh, let's see. i think it was about three weeks ago. sometimes the mood is such that you could be having a great day and something reminds you of the events of october 27th. and there are times i just can't drive by here. i'll detour. the visual reminders sometimes of the facade is just too much. >> yeah. to me, the greatest horror would be that they just pass away in anonymity without saying that these are beautiful people. they died because they were being jewish. so the answer is to be even more
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jewish. >> i like that. be even more jewish. >> there is this wonderful phrase. it's not upon you to finish the task, but you are not absolved from trying. so you may not get to that part of the rainbow, but that doesn't mean that we're letting you off the hook from trying, at least making a steps and more progress. >> no matter our race, creed and religion, if we all do that every day to work to make the world a little better, it gets better. >> absolutely. >> i can't help thinking of my mom at moments like this hearing her talk about her friends about racism and activism. at time i was like, why do i have to -- can't we put some temptations on? and to realize he was building
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the bridge. >> so you honor your mother by doing the same thing to your kids. >> yes. thank you. >> thank you. i knew i'd get emotional. >> thank you. >> thank you. i'm glad you came to pittsburgh. >> it's hard to not stand here in pittsburgh in mr. roger's neighborhood and not say, it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. >> indeed today the sun is shining. it's a good day. >> yeah. ""united shades of america"" brought to you by -- introducing new voltaren arthritis pain gel, brought to you by -- "united shades of america" brought to you by -- "united sha brought to you by -- available over-the-counter. new voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.
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okay. this clearly isn't pittsburgh. this is santa monica, home of the santa monica pier and the birthplace of steven miller. we aren't here for that stuff. we're here for this lady, my mom. and doesn't she look good in this light? >> what would be really great is if it was warm. >> yeah. but you're always cold. >> i think something happens when you get colder. >> yeah, and you are old. >> yes, i -- >> i mean like old. >> i acknowledge that. >> like old. i mean, like martin luther king jr. would be 91. >> that's just nine years older than me. >> my mom experienced every part of america's racism except for slavery. >> born in 1937 in indianapolis,
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indiana where there is a textbook, editor, author, activist. mostly she's happy to know you can't believe she's 83. >> so when you had me, what was your idea about raising this black boy? >> i was very conscious about that. and i remember when you were a little guy. you know, six, seven years old. and there was a drugstore near us that we would shop in. and as soon as we walked in the store, the store detective would follow us. i said, be really careful. and i pointed out the store detective. because we're always being watched. >> i remember that lesson, and it sticks with me today so much so that i'm aware when i'm in stores as a fully grown adult with my hands were. as a kid i was aware of it because i didn't want to be arrested. now as an adult i'm aware of it
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because i don't want to be killed. >> yeah. >> the other thing i want to talk about is how i didn't think america would ever elect a black president. >> yeah. >> and then i remember you voted early because you knew they had early voting. >> yeah. >> and then you flew out to san francisco. >> to watch the returns with you. >> with me. we could have just talked on the phone. >> oh, no. no. i wanted to be there when the results came in. yeah. yeah. [ applause ] >> it was a historic occasion, living history. shoot. i didn't ever think in my lifetime that i would get to see a black president. >> the thing is we only have one blurry picture of that night. >> oh, really? >> of you being like ah! >> yeah. i'll never forget that night. yeah. >> and then eight years later.
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>> every time black people make any progress in this country, there is a backlash. and, so, this is the backlash to obama's being president. >> how bad do things feel right now? as i said, you experienced every part of racism except for slavery. >> i feel fascism coming on. and so really, really frightens me. and if we don't somehow overcome this in the next election, i'm worried. i'm really worried. >> i don't know if i ever told you this, but i remember when trump won and i was like, it's kind of too bad she didn't die while barack was in office. >> oh, really? yeah. >> and you know i don't mean that. >> no, i know. i know.
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i know. i understand. it just felt like, oh come on. >> you know all of my siblings are decease and i've had the thought, i'm glad they didn't have to live through this. one of the biggest success stories in racism in the united states is how they have kept the racists apart. that was deliberate, of course. segregation started it. if you keep people apart so that they don't get to know each other, then they could just hate that unknown group. if all the people of color and the disgruntled white people came together, they wouldn't stand a chance, the people in power who want to keep us apart. they wouldn't have a ghost of a chance. so they have to keep using up as decoys to keep white people from understanding that they are being ripped off, too. one thing i know for sure is
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that when people get to know each other, they can't hate each other. >> yeah. >> look, every single episode of this show, by the end, i'm hoping the screwed up thing we talked about will be over forever, but it never is. and sometimes, honestly, i feel alone in this. i bet a lot of you do. but one thing we're seeing right now is we are not alone. >> many other groups joined in in support. >> there is at least a few thousand here. >> a wave of demonstrations in solidarity with u.s. protesters. >> at home or in the streets we are in it together. >> this time caused the whole problem. >> okay. maybe not every one of us. but a lot of us are out there in this fight. >> you see what is in front of them right now, peaceful protesting. >> really in the shit, putting ourselves on the line, from huntsville, alabama to [ bleep ]
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berlin, trying to do everything we can to make sure that no matter what happens, today we're going to do whatever we can, love as hard as we can to make sure that tomorrow, as one of pittsburgh's favorite sons says -- ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood ♪ would you be mine ♪ could you be mine ♪ would you be fine ♪ could you be mine ♪ won't you be my neighbor freefall, record-high cases in the country's covid crisis growing worse. >> we have never had as many people infected or infectious. >> the virus is real. it is deadly.
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>> are our leaders doing enough to stop it? i'll speak exclusively to los angeles mayor eric garcetti and mississippi governor tate reeves next. this is an attack on our democracy. >> president trump may use the same approach in other cities. is it legal? portland mayor ted wheeler joins me to discuss, next. plus, civil rights icon congressman john lewis has died. >> we are one people, we are one family, we are one house. >> we'll reflect on his impact with congresswoman ayana pressley and lewis' close friend congressman jim clyburn. ♪ hello, i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is in mourning for the late civil rights icon congressman john lewis. the state of our union is also this morning terrified. because there are more than 3.7 million coronavirus cases in the united states.

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