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and saying he hates feminism more than i hate america. a spokesman for trump's 2020 campaign says we don't know anything about him but the crimes he's accused of are horrific. >> thank you so much for joining us. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" with john berman starts now. good evening. john berman in for anderson. with coronavirus deaths nearing 142,000 and cases approaching 4 million, you will hear people say there was a change in tone from donald trump today. it is true, his mouth admitted different sounds and words, a change but whether we see a change in policy, a change in action, that remains to be seen. still, for this one moment at this one briefing today, the president by in large said things out loud that he rarely does. >> some areas of our country are doing very well,do doido doing less well. it will get worse before it gets
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better, something i don't like saying about things but that's the way it is. that's what we have. >> in addition to that, the president also gave his fullest least endorsement yet of steps to slow the spread. >> and we're asking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask. get a mask. whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact. they will have an effect and we need everything we can get. we're asking americans to use masks, socially distance and employ vigorous hiygiene, wash your hands every chance you can get. we're i'm ploring youeimploring to avoid packed bars. >> those words and the ones before it may well have been spoken by dr. anthony fauci and it could be an unspoken
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admission the president has been wrong, wrong about his hands off head in the sand approach virus that's taken 142,000 american lives. that said, everyone as he admitted things would get worse before better, he had little to say about what he would do to make them better. what he did do was issue a proclamation that sounds outlandish when you consider he's called himself a war-time president and as we said, nearly 142,000 americans are dead. >> we are in the process of developing a strategy that's going to be very, very powerful. >> in the process, it's going, what's the wait. 142,000 lives. he didn't announce a plan to make testing more available and waiting two weeks for results to come back, commercial labs say they are overloaded at the moment but the president announced no federal plan to allocate unused capacity at
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state labs, university and hospital labs, even veterinary facilities as one expert suggested on another network today. the president spoke of fatalities being down 75% since april. they are, however, they are up sharply in the last several weeks. as the surge of new cases became the surge of hospital patients and now a surge of fatalities. he said governors said they have adequate hospital capacity. well, in florida today icus at 53 hospitals are at or above their limits and in arkansas the number of people hospitalized with covid hit a high with one in five patients on ventilators. texas reported fatalities. things are getting worse and we heard the president admit it. we heard him say things that are not true and gloss over realities he'd rather not face even though the country must. and hanging overall of this is the question how long until the words spoken out loud this evening with all the cav yachts
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attached, we heard the 99% of this pandemic. remember, we have been here before. >> avoid gathering in groups of more than ten. avoid discretionary travel and avoid eating and drinking at bars, restaurants and public food courts. if everyone makes this change or these critical changes and sacrifices now, we will rally together as one nation and we will defeat the virus and we're going to have a big celebration all together. >> that was march 16th. we're all in this together. we're all rallying together. not even 24 hours later, the president was on twitter and on the attack failing michigan governor must work harder and must be more proactive. we're pushing her to get the job done, i stand with michigan. that was march 17th. on that date, just 131 people had died in this country.
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it took almost 142,000 more dead americans for the president to once again, appear to be facing reality. more now from chief white house correspondent jim acosta. jim, do we know what was behind the new words spoken out loud at the press conference? >> yeah, john, i will tell you, i talked to a white house official this afternoon that said listen, there is a recognition inside the white house there is a perception that the president was not leading on this pandemic and of course, that is white house, they knew the guy was screwing things up and so they wanted the president to go out there, hit the reset button, look more somber and serious about this but as you laid out over the last several minutes, we seen this movie before. the question is what does he do for a sequel? i think when you roll through some of what the president said during this press conference when he was urging people to wear masks, he has been down playing the importance of masks for weeks. the question becomes how serious will trump supporters take these
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sorts of things when you see videos of trump supporters lashing out at public officials about not wanting to wear a mask, a lot of that, of course, goes back to the president. and when the president is talking about not congress grga in crowded bars, the president is inviting people to go to rallies that are thousands and thousands of people and planning on holding a convention in august with big crowds and by the way, as you and i both know having covered conventions, some participants end up at crowded bars at the end of the night. i think the question moving forward is whether or not some of what the president says today actually lasts past 24 hours. >> let's hope it lasts and let's hope people listen. right now it's just a hope. the thing that surprised me most and i don't know if he misread the script, it's when he said we're developing a strategy, the white house is and it's going to be very, very powerful. why the wait? like, why now?
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why haven't they developed this strategy 142,000 deaths ago? >> you know, i do think that begs a followup question. the president had moments during this press conference today as much as people give him points for style and so on, he demonstrates once again that he is just not taking this seriously enough for a lot of americans when he says that the u.s. has done more than the rest of the world, performed much better than the rest of the world. that's not dealing with reality and when he's thrown off message with questions about maxwell, the accused accomplice of jeffrey epstein, a source close to the white house this evening, that is a question the white house should prepare the president to talk about and it's just malpractice on the part of a white house to not have a president prepare to give a better response and i wish her well. john, at this point they don't have a plan and they keep trying to come up with a new plan and today was more of a political plan, more than anything else. this was about the president
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trying to reassure some of these republicans who have lost faith in the handling of the pandemic and a lot of independence as you know will swing this election, just rejected his approach. this is more of a political emergency the president is dealing with tonight as much as a health emergency. >> jim acosta at the white house, thanks so much. perspective from cnn political analyst, white house correspondent maggie haberman and dr. sanjay gupta, two of the smartest humans i know who also happen to be pretty nice. mai maggie, how did the white house think it went this afternoon and what can we expect from them, what do they want to do going forward? >> john, the white house was overwhelmingly very happy with how this late afternoon briefing went by the president with obvious exceptions, one being maxwell question and they wish he had answered that differently and with all due respect to jim, reporting on this but i'm not convinced they didn't brief the president about this in the past and he messed up the question.
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they felt he was saying things he needed to be saying, that he was sort of not getting outside his lane and not talking about treatments and chemicals and what we saw previously trying to one up the doctors and talking about a forward looking picture that's obviously an incomplete look at it because there is a lot of questions to be asked as you just said and it's not clear to me that he can sustain this for a number of days that is always the issue with him at these kinds of briefings it starts off fine and start the to degenerate over time. for today, they are happy and plan on doing similar briefings to this whether it's every day, what it looks like we don't know. >> they may plan it whether he goes along with it, we'll have to say. sanjay, dr. anthony fauci not invit invited. dr. debra birx left back stage not invited to the stage. what would the scientist haves added to this do you think? >> well, i think there is two things. one is just having the united
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front, right? the scientists are talking and you get that support from the white house. you know, i think that's important because i think a lot of times, there is this real sk skism between what the white house is saying. it's counter point almost. speaking with one united front would have been important. there is a few areas that i think would have been important to talk about moving forward as maggie was saying. one is testing still. you know, we've been talking about testing since march. we're still not doing enough testing. it is true, the quite does more testing than other countries but because we need to and have a lot more virus in this country because we wasted time really not keeping tabs on this wide spread infection in february and early march. right now, the testing is really only used john to flag hot spots around the country. here is a fire over here. here is a fire over here. it's not used to be able to isolate and then quarantine contacts and bring down the t
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trajectory of this pandemic. schools is another one. what is the real science and evidence behind whether you open schools or not? are schools going to receive extra funding as necessary to implement these physical distancing guidelines? buses, staggered start schedules, the things that are real. i'll just remind you, it's preposterous to talk about but containment of this virus means one in a million cases. that's roughly 350 new case as day. here is the goal, here is the problem, here is how we get there. >> 350 and we're at 65 to 70,000. sanjay, i'm sure you were pleased to hear the president's language on masks. he said, unequivocally, people should wear them even if uncomfortable, you should wear them, however, less than 24 hour a s ago last night he was at an event at a washington d.c. hotel where he was not wearing a mask and he was close to people who were not wearing masks, too.
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so how will the message get out? will the public see here do you think? >> i don't know, john. it's clearly a lot of whiplash for the public. i mean, it's such a seemingly simple thing to do to make such a huge difference. overall, i'm glad he put out that tweet yesterday with him wearing a mask. i happen to live in georgia, john, where you know the governor was suing the mayor over masks and, you know, i'm not as we talked about last night, i'm not a political reporter but the idea the governors are taking ye ing quem the government and the president tweet as picture of him wearing a mask probably does make a difference. i don't know. people that are real skeptics will look at the video you showed and say i don't have to wear a mask either but hopefully this makes a difference in a positive direction. >> maggie, both you and jim acosta mentioned the eileen maxwell moment and the fan dem make -- pandemic is more important
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but it was the most holy blank moment where it was asked about maxwell, the friend of jeffrey epstein in custody in prison right now charged with helping epstein groom and sexually abuse underaged girls. this is what the president said about it. >> i just wish her well, frankly. i've met her numerous times over the years, especially since i lived in palm beach and they lived in palm beach. i wish her well. >> i wish her well. so how did that land in the white house? >> not well. look, i want to just reiterate something sanjay said. it's important the president stressed mask wearing. it's very late and will confuse some people as to where he really is on it but it's important and worth noting he did it. in terms of the maxwell piece, look, that was an astonishing comment. there is no other way to describe it since the president's associates have been tweeting pictures of other people with eileen maxwell and jeffrey epstein trying to draw the associations. she's charged with incredibly
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serious crimes, crimes against young girls, crimes rae laelate young girls and he wishes her well is astonishing and astonishing when you're aocoppo the lack of the benefit of the doubt he tends to give most people imprisoned or incarcerated or accused of a crime people of color. this very wealthy woman who he rubbed elbows with in society, he says he wishes her well despite what his own government has accused her of doing. it is -- look, i'm sure he would -- i don't know if he would do it again or not. i don't believe they told him this is a good way to do it and many people are uncomfortable with what he said and averting their cases tonight. >> accused of horrible things. to agree with both of you, the language he used on the masks to say if you're uncomfortable, you should wear it is exactly what people need to hear whether or not they are hearing it and whether they will take action, we'll wait and see. maggie, sanjay, thank you so much.
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maggie, we'll come back to you to talk about reporting from you and your colleagues about efforts the president made to steer the storied and lucrative british open golf tournament to his resort in scotland so don't go far on that. next, two experts, one on the front lines in houston reacting to president trump's remarks tonight as well as the prospects for one or more vaccines before the year is out and later, you know, near para military forces on the streets in oregon and the president's threat to send them into other big cities, yes, it's really happening in america. portland's mayor joins us next. (burke) at farmers, we know how nice it is to save on your auto policy. but it's even nicer knowing that if this happens... ...or this.... ...or even this... ...we've seen and covered it. so, get a quote today. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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we're talking tonight about a presidential coronavirus briefing that sounded different and whether the president will
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find himself in the middle of the disaster. we'll be joined by a front line doctor in phoenix seeing it all. right now dr. peter hotez is a vaccine researcher and dean of baylor university school of tropical medicine and also with us, william hazeltine, questions and answers for parents, grandparents and children. dr. hotez, we have spoken with you throughout the duration of this pandemic and i think i spoke with you this morning. what did you think of the president's briefing today. what were your impressions? >> well, my impressions were he tossed out a few crumbs that showed some level of concern. he said that i'm looking at my notes here, he said that it's a vicious illness, we need to shield the vulnerable and the nation needs a strategy.
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that's good. if he said those things in march, i would have felt better but then, you know, he goes into the fact we're doing better than most countries and fatality rates are falling go back to the same old misinformation so you know although he was told what to say and said a couple of the right things, it showed lack of compassion and empathy of a terrible situation we're facing in texas. we had 34 deaths yesterday in hidalgo county and yesterday 141 deaths and deaths continue to spike in texas. icu getting overwhelmed all over the state. hospital staff is getting exhausted and we know mortality is going to go up when hospital staff gets exhausted. so we're in a terrible situation in states across the south no
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real recognition and indication she's feeling urgency to make a plan. >> it is likely by the end of tonight there will be 1,000 new deaths reported in the last 24 hours, as well to give a sense where people are at this moment. professor hazletine, the president talked about testing and today he said that if doctors and professionals say we need more of it, he will agree we need more of it. what do you make of that? >> well, first of all i agree it's a good thing they said we need masks but far, far short of what we need. we need action. we need strategic plans. we need people helping the people in our southern and western states. we need people who can provide the equipment and we don't have those plans. i'd like to see this resolve turned into real action. if you look at the number of
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deaths in the world, there is about ten people dying every minute. and almost two of those are americans. that is what is happening right now. can we do something about it? yes. but will it be in time for the decision that everybody is making right now? parents are trying to decide whether to send their kids back to school. there won't be a vaccine or drug by then. they have to make decisions on what we know now and it doesn't look very good. >> will it be in time? >> people are out partying. the young people are out partying. they have to decide whether to go back to college or if the college will be open. we need action and we need it fast and we need it now. actually, we need it a long time ago. >> that was my point -- we needed it months ago. it's too late by 142,000 deaths at this point already. dr. hotez, there is this matter of cdc data suggesting the u.s. has ten times more cases than is being reported. if that's true, what are the
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implications there? i mean, what does that mean for stopping the spread? >> well, we've known this for a long time that the number of confirmed cases is just a fraction. the scientists debate whether the real numbers, three times more, five times more, ten times more but that's right. we should assume that at least about 35 million americans have been infected with a covid-19. the numbers are continuing to climb. what it means practically speaking, we have in houston 1200 cases today or yesterday, what that really means is probably 5 or 6,000 cases and the idea that we can do contact tracing of 5 and 6,000 cases in a day in houston is -- i don't see a path that we can do that. so today i put up -- we published a paper looking at a plan for the nation where we can bring the whole country back down to containment mode by
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october 1. otherwise, we just can't do the contact tracing. the truth is all the things we're talking about, masks and contact tracing, will work best when we bring it down to that low level and then we can prevent the resurgence and we can do that. we can do that by october if we had that national strategy it's frustrating that the federal government won't have the path forward. maybe the glimmer is the president mentioned it today for the first time, maybe it will happen. >> professor, i thought of you the minute this happened. an executive from astrazeneca said if all goes well, they could have a vaccine ready to go quote from september on ward. you were often very skeptical of claims and promises like this so i've been wanting to ask you-all day what you think of that. >> i think it's extremely optimistic. he's in a position better than i am to know what their results are, but i've been watching vaccine development as peter has
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for many years, and we know that it's very difficult to ensure the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. even if a vaccine were approved september, it won't be in time for children to receive it. you just cannot do it in that time. and i can assure you if a vaccine does receive emergency use authorization from the fda, we won't know whether it's fullyfefully effective and certainly won't know if it's fully safe. it is a very rash statement to have made to give that kind of optimism when we know you have many barriers ahead of you. >> dr. peter hotez and mr. fe professor, we're smarter and safer after talking with you. just ahead, breaking news from "the new york times", another possible example of president trump mixing his business interest with affairs of state. maggie haberman to tell us what
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>> breaking news story from "the new york times" about the apparent pressure one top diplomat felt from president trump to convince the british to move a major sporting vent that attracts competitors from around the world not to mention thousands of fans to a trump property. back with us, maggie haberman who helped break this story. so maggie, what exactly are we talking about here in terms of the british open and what president trump was asking the u.s. am basketball tore bassado
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do? >> according to my reporters and me, woody johnson, the ambassador to the u.k. told colleagues that he was pressured or asked or urged or something in 2018 by president trump to try to help him land the british open at one of the president's clubs in the u.k. his golf course. that is not -- it's not even possible in terms of how the british open is selected for certain sites but it does speak to, you know, we have seen areas where the president tried to steer business to his private firms and to his private holdings, you know, such as the doral last year for host to g 7 and moved anyway after an uproar but this is not the first time the president has done this but it is extraordinary and by raising this with an ambassador, he is using government resources in a very specific way and other
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government officials as instruments to get something that he wants for his business. >> how did the ambassador not to mention other diplomats associated with him react to this pressure? >> sure, so woody johnson apparently discussed it with his deputy at the time. the deputy advised against raising this but woody johnson still did bring it up in some fashion in a meeting with officials from the u.k. including secretary of state for scotland. it was not as we understand it made as a direct ask. it was mentioned or suggested or raised or broached in someway, but again, it was something that stood out to people. it was something that was unsettling for other diplomats in the u.k. they did not see this as a normal course of business. and it has been one aspect of what has been described as something of a rocky tenure for woody johnson in the u.k. there was an inspection, a
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routine inspection last year at the embassy in which some complaints were made with woody johnson comporting and asking whether one potential hire was jewish, about making comments about women's looks and some of those are supposed to be in this draft for the inspector general's office. >> did the president violate any laws by making this ask? >> so, look, officials make -- ex pressed concerns about this. the president is not subject to the kinds of ethics laws that other appointees and the government are or people personnel in the government are people who he chooses to work there. there is a bit of a mote around what the president can and can't get in trouble for but it raised concerns for ethics experts as to the spirit of the ethics law being violated. >> look, it's swampy. i guess in scotland they call them boggs but it's swampy to be sure. how is the white house reacted
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to this? >> u yo know, i can't speak to why they decided they didn't want to weigh in but very explicit what the reporting would be and they chose not to comment. if they then later condemn the report, bear in mind they had every opportunity to comment before hand. >> it's born in mind. maggie may maggie haberman, thanks for sticking around. >> just ahead, more on what the president said about the coronavirus and how it compares to what an emergency room doctor sees every day. 3w4r5 p
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. breaking news, new numbers put u.s. deaths at 970 and that's just today and today is not over. this is the same day as we mentioned at the top of the program president trump said different words to strike a more serious somber note and while the president did admit the pandemic will get worse before it gets better, it's getting worse right now. by the end of the roughly 26-minute news conference, he had fallen back to an old line the virus will quote disappear end quote despite the rise in cases which is why we want to do now what we do as often as possible, get the reality from the front lines to see the people who face this virus each and every day. joining me is an emergency room physician and professor at the
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university of arizona college of medicine. first of all, doctor, thank you for what you're doing. you work at a few different hospitals in the phoenix area. describe what it's been like. >> in a word, it's been nuts. it's been pandemonium. there is people all over. we're waiting for beds. there are some people waiting three days in my emergency department waiting for a critical care or icu bed. i think four out of five patients are there for covid or covid-19 complaints. it's very, very troubling. it's something we've never seen before. my staff is starting to get sick. it's not uncommon for nurses to call in sick because they are sick. my flabotimist. moral sucks because people are getting sick and we hear stuff around us where people don't believe this is happening. >> it's happening and i know it's happening around you each and every day.
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what about testing? the president even tonight bragging that the u.s. has more testing than any country in the world. what's your own experience with testing? >> well, i mean, we're a big country. we make up, you know, 5% of the population but right now, we have 25% of all the cases worldwide. i think we might be doing a lot of testing, but in my experience, people are waiting forever for testing. i had two deaths the other day where i did not test them. i chose not to test them because we had to rathion our nasal swabs. i chose to use them on a patient that was more stable. they were in the emergency department. they probably won't be counted as a covid deaths, the number of deaths and illnesses are under reported contrary to what people are saying. >> just repeat that one more time. you can't test everyone that you
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want to test and you had to basically not test two people that you were convinced had it, two people because you didn't think it would make a difference whether they lived or died? >> that's absolutely correct and it wasn't just me alone. it was a collective decision. i was just like hey, should i do a nasal swab? what? are you kidding? you have to do it on somebody else. every day is like ground hogs day. walk in one day out of swabs, another day out of reagent and another day sending it out to labs. some people are discharged from the hospital before we know if they were quote positive or not. we learned from italy and new york and see the signs and symptoms consistent with covid-19. but, yeah, the tests we're not getting. we know the tests are not super accurate anyway. it really sucks. >> what do you need and who do you need it from tonight? >> well, i mean, i'm jealous of my new york friends with fema come and national guard, they were checking people outside. you know, i tell them that i
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have people with coughs and a little pneumonia that i'll send home and they are like what are you doing? how is that patient making it back to the emergency department? you need to triage them out front telling them to go elsewhere or to just treat them a little bit and tell them what will be offered to them and let them go. i think that's one thing. we need to get treatment, treatment that's fast and quick and we need to listen to doctors and health care providers with medical advice. this is a moving subject, things will change. whatever i said in the last four or five months, some of that will be wrong. let the science dictate what is happening. try to listen to us. if you're going to wear a mask, realize that masks cut transmission by 40%. the best two drugs, remdesivir and dexamethasone cut it. wear a mask.
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you know what i have to go through at work? my face comes out and looks like a monster when i take off my mask but i wish it was tighter and i had more ppe and a space suit and people just get stressed that they have a little cloth on their face. it seems like a ridiculous paradigm. >> it's hard on you and your colleagues and we thank you for the work you're doing. we heard the president speak today and said different words out loud than the past and we know he watches cable. if you had a chance to speak to him now and give him advice, what would you say? >> i would say that, you know, i understand your concern and please kind of let the medical professionals, you know, talk about this. you know, you got to let them speak about this and just kind of take the back of this and just kind of say hey, i say x, y and z. fauci is not there. fauci is a god in the infectious disease world. fauci wrote the book on infectious disease and internal
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medicine. we love him and to dispute things against him is rough. very conservative guy. i would listen to the medical professionals is what i would tell him. >> doctor, once again, thank you for what you're doing. please get whatever rest you can because we need you there. >> i appreciate it. thank you so much for all you do. still to come, the violence in portland and confrontations involving federal law enforcement officers, the mayor of portland joins us after government official today criticized the city for not doing enough to maintain peace. can my side be firm?
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we want to turn to the scene in portland, oregon. while peaceful protests in the wake of george floyd killing are the norm, there is nevertheless or have been nevertheless violent confrontations, some involving federal law officers and intense criticism.
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dhs personnel is arresting protesters and putting them in unmarked video two masks camouflaged individuals with police badges on their chest and hard to read patches on their arms are seen. officials today defended actions saying unmarked vehicles are names are removed to prevent doxing, that's a -- the acting head of dhs chad wolf defended his department's response by criticizing portland's city officials. >> these individuals congregate in the same area night after night. we see them planning their attacks. yet the city of portland takes little action to stop or disperse this youd. >> crowd. >> joining me, todd stay already. you heard the acting dhs secretary criticize your lack of action. what's your response? >> my response is he really
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doesn't understand the context. he doesn't seem to understand that it's the presence of the federal officers, the way they came into this city, the way they have trampled over the constitution, the way they have pulled people into vans, the way they fired munitions at demonstrators, in one case killing somebody, the way they trampled over the requirement for probable cause. this is what's making portlanders so angry right now. things were fairly calm before the federal government arrive in the town, and now they have significantly escalated what was already a very tense situation. they've made things much worse, and we have been saying from the beginning, look, we don't want you here, we don't need you here. we want you to go home before somebody gets ill canned. >> there's been a lot of focus on marked vehicles and uniforms. that's glossing over what is a more serious legal
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constitutional issue, which is if federal officers are protecting federal buildings on federal property, that's one thing and that's most probably quite legal. if they are making arrests for crimes, just crimes that are violence not on federal property that's legally dubious at best sophomore the is that happening? >> that's absolutely happening. when they first got here, we said, look, we understand you want to protect your facility, keep your folks inside. they didn't do that. they went out on the streets, engaged demonstrators. in many cases documented situations where they engaged nonviolent demonstrations, demonstrators, and that really does get into murky legal ground, and that's why the u.s. attorney in oregon has called for an investigation, and that's why our state attorney general was called for an investigation. we at the city of portland, we're also evaluating our legal options. >> so, the acting secretary of
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dhs called ochn the city to de-escalate and find a peaceful outcome, i think, with the federal officers. when we see the videos of how the dhs agents are working, also federal marshalls, how does this de-escalate the situation? it doesn't at all. it was well documented before they got here, the energy was going out of the late-night protests. we were seeing smaller crowds, less vandalism, we were seeing much less violence. all of us expected it was going to go away. we had it contained. we were using de-escalation strategies. we were engage in limited arrests of people engage in the illegal activity. that's modern policing. then these guys came in like a bulldozer and it reenergized portlanders, brought people back into the streets. now here we are in the middle a pandemic, that their boss
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doesn't seem to take seriously and we've got thousands of people back on the streets of this is a disaster, but it's a disaster of the administration's own making. >> i got ten seconds left. there is violence and bankruptcy. what's your message to the people on the streets tonight? >> my message is you have been heard. thank you for calling out the administration for what it's doing. it's unconstitutional. it's on affront to democracy, but let's say safe and remember we're in the midst of a pandemic. it's time to end it. >> mayor ted el whooer from portland, oregon, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> let's check in on chris. i have not been this close to you in months. i can feel the electricity. >> i just walked past you one cell over, in this little fool's row that they have us set up in. it's good to see you, j.b., and i appreciate you sitting in for cooper. listen, i think that this is a no-brainer, what's happening in portland. it's about politics.
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it's not about law and. proer policing. we have ken cuccinelli on, tonight, who is a heavyweight for the trump administration at dhs and we'll have a conversation with him about why it's okay. if on no other level, where's that same urgency trying to taken the the pandemic? here's states not asking for hem. you're doing it any way. in the pandemic you have states asking for help and the president isn't offering it. i know some are saying he devs credit. his job is to try to make it better. we'll go through how they're not even counting what matters at the federal level, and it has to change. >> we will see you in a few minutes. good to see you. great to be this close to you. ahead, we're going to honor another member victim of the pandemic and a member of the 360 family. special needs, who also needed him. as part of our love promise, subaru and our retailers host
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tonight as we try to do every night, we want to remember some of the lives that have been lost during the pandemic. one of the victims hits particularly close to home for the 360 team. it's the father-in-law of our own gary tuckman. his wife and family laid their west today. his name was bill stark. he was a chief engineer for the u.s. merchant marines. his family says his entire life up until he died he would talk about his adventures at sea and spend hours look at through a supply glass at ships and wonder
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where they were headed. he married rose mary william matthews and had four children together. he later married -- and had nine grand iron which. he had a wicked sense of humor, loved telling stories, loved cars. according to gary his legacy is one of family -- his family is in our thoughts tonight. the news continues. i'll hand it over the chris for "cuomo primetime." >> jon, thank you very much. i am chris cuomo. the president finally admitted the pandemic is getting worse and that wearing a mask, if you can't socially distance, wearing a mask is a must. six months, 141,000 deaths. almost 4 million cases later and as half the states in the country fall backwards, trump is finally admitting the truth.
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