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the detailed look there. unlike any test with the rhinoceros on it. hope to see you back here same time tomorrow. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right here right now. have a great day. i'm brianna keilar and i welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. we begin with breaking developments in the u.s. fight against the coronavirus. the latest modeling projecting fewer deaths because more americans are wearing masks. you'll hear from one of the lead researchers on that in a moment. some promisal news. the president acknowledging the pandemic will bet worse before it gets better. several hot spots seeing new case numbers while still high are on the decline, and the u.s. announcing a major deal promising free or cheap vaccines when they're ready. the american pandemic continues to experience serious setbacks. in a single day the coronavirus killed more than 1,000 people,
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and that's the death top not seen for weeks. once again as well, new cases in a singlety surpassing 60,000. 64,534 new infections reported tuesday. kmul case numbers anywhere from 6 to 24 times higher than the official count and labs warning they won't be able to keep up with testing during flu season. dr. anthony fauci couching the current crisis this way -- >> we are certainly not at the end of the game. i'm not even sure we're halfway through. obviously, and if you want to do a score, i don't want to get too cute about it, certainly we are not winning the game right now. we are not leading it. now to the new and lower death projection in the u.s. pandemic. actually it comes from a source often cited by the white house. that's the institute of health metrics and evaluation at the
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university of washington. a professor there of health metrics sciences at the institute. professor, thanks for joining us to give your very important perspective on this. predicting by november 219,000 deaths. that is so high, right? also the about 5,000 fewer deaths in your projection a week ago. tell us what led to the change. >> thank you for having me. what we are seeing right now is an increase in mask use especially in states that have been hit by covid-19. estates like texas, california, florida, arizona, and seeing reduction in mobility in these states. this is helping us with our projection. >> okay. what is the percentage of americans at this point who are wearing masks when they leave home? do we know? >> yes. we have data at the state level. it varies between states and goes from somewhere around 20% to around 80%.
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highest is in the northeast. affected early on with covid-19. they're now wearing more masks than ever before. >> okay. besides having more states that are cracking down, that are mandating when it comes to masks, have you seen any other improvements in the u.s. pandemic? >> the improvement has been much higher in states where mandates have been put in place. we is seen it in almost every city, but a sharper increase in states with a mandate. so a mandate is very important and it's helping and a national mandate, of course, would do much better. >> the president recently called mask wearing patriot. is that something that weighs into your research? >> we've also, everybody, assumes it's patriot and followed suit. yes, that's very important. if people wear a mask in our studies about 30% reduction of transmission will occur in the united states, and if all of us
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wear a mask when we go out, about 95% of us, we can control this pandemic and won't have to go back to a lockdown which is very important. so you save lives and you save the economy as well. >> if 95% wore masks. thank you so much for sharing your data and walking us through it. we appreciate it. thanks for coming on, ali mokdad. >> thank you. months into the pandemic testing is falling very short of where it needs to be. on average results can now take four to six days, but in some states like arizona, this can be be up to three week, but the would us is sitting on up to $8 billion in unused funding, specifically aimed at ramping up coronavirus testing. now, as lawmakers consider additional assistance, they're asking why that money still has not been spent. cnn the lauren forks joins us from capitol hill on this story and congressional low kate e al fund but they're not being used. how are lawmakers takes this
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news? >> democrats and republicans concerned and asking questions why the money is still sitting in this account? back up a second and explain where this funding came from. back in april congress appropriated $25 billion for testing and contact tracing. $11 billion quickly went out to the states through the cdc, but remaining amount of money still at hhs. essentially what i'm told is that there were questions about whether or not this is just a logistical issue, issue with bureaucracy and one republican told me, senator john cornyn, really doesn't matter. a problem and something to be concerned about regardless of the explanation. it really matters, because lay machors are trying to decide how much money to give to testing in the next round of stimulus, and one of the talking points they've heard from the white house behind closed doors is the fact there is still money sitting in this account. republicans argues why do you need more money is the money is
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already there? s essentially that leaves us that we know the would us is moving closer to allowing the initial amount of money, abouts 25 d$25 billion in the next round of are the stimulus. there are still questions why there's so much money left in the past bills and whether it comes from ppe, hospitalization fund? billions remain unspent that congress appropriated months ago, brianna. >> lauren fox on capitol hill. thank you. go to south texas now where significant loss of life has become reality for many. the pandemic nightmare touched nearly everyone there. health care workers describe holding up phones so that patients can say good-bye to their loved ones, and then there are the family members on the other end of the line, like jessica ortiz. she tells cnn about her final farewell with her twin brother
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who fought the virus for two weeks. >> i did a last video with him when he was like -- when he had the mask on, was still talking. well, not talking but hand gestures, and that was the last video. and -- [ inaudible ] -- i just wish it wasn't him. i wish -- that he didn't lose his life. >> matter breaking. right? happening to so many people. dr. ivan ma lend enendez is on front lines in hidalgo county, texas and you tested positive for coronavirus at the end of last month. can you tell us -- i want to talk to you about the fact that
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what we just heard is not unique, but i want to talk about you and your health. how are you feeling right now? >> thank you so much for asking. i've been extremely fortunate that my symptoms i would consider moderate and certainly do not approach the level of hospitalization. i was in the fortunate, approximately 9% of folks that do not require being in the hospital. i'm still exhausted. it's been approximately several months. fatig fatigue. >> you say traded several weeks. what of the residual symptoms you deal with now? what could you do before having covid you can not do now? >> i'm upstairs right now recording this with you and had this in my 11-year-old daughter several times and to pick up charts, graphs, statistics. a comb for my hair. before, of course, going up and
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down the stairs wasn't an issue. so i'm still exhausted when i physically ski lly exert myself >> you're a young man. going and down the stairs is tough. that says something several weeks late whir it was obviously easy for you. you took it for granted. tell us about, look, we just heard the story of a woman who lost her twin brother. and she lost him remotely. because she can't see that. this is what's you're dealing with on the ground. one doctor said it was like a tsunami of patients coming through the hospital doors. can you just describe for us what's happening? >> absolutely. you know, we had yesterday another record day with fatalities. 49 people died yesterday. took us three months to get to 12 people. after we opened up, and stopped social distancing, now we have 49. in one day, while it took three months to get 12. even though 12 people is too much, and even though if we had
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12 people die a day, it's still matter breaking like jessica's story, and the doctor's from yesterday. 12 people, three months, 49 yesterday. we're the seventh largest county. 1.2 million people in texas. we have medical schools, a sophisticated area, 12 hospitals, and yet we have highest death rate. right now we have 42 people dieing out of every 100,000 population as compared to the second county in the state which is tarrant county, where dallas is at. they have 20 people. we have 42 per 100,000 dies from covid. so our numbers down on the border area, in this particular county have been dramatic indeed, these are just numbers. everyone's fatigued with the covid numbers, but behind every number is a tragic story as the one you just played. i have many tragic stories daily. yesterday i went top examine a patient who looked extremely
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ill. when i took off her asperatus and bypass it was a nurse i've known 25 years and couldn't recognize. last week went to put someone on life support, intubate that was my grade school teacher. and then my mother's neighbor. i can tell you tragedies and tragedies and tragedies and the doctors and nurses providing care, and almost as important as our stethoscopes our cell phones to care for these unfortunate and poor folks. important to note almost 90% of our people placed on ventilators perish. i have not seen yet any of our patients in five months that have been both on ventilator and mo
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modal that survived. we're not seeing good outcomes in our county. we see every week it continues to be worse. >> wow. i just have to say, my heart hurts as i hear you describing what you're dealing with day to day. and you're doing it with such strength. it's such important work, and we thank you for talking to us about it. we'll be thinking of you. we know you're very much in the middle of this right now. thank you. >> appreciate attention to our area, and thank you for getting the word out. a pleasure to be with you. so as more companies are requiring customers to wearing a masks, hear why lowe's will not do so. plus, just in. the world health conversation says the coronavirus will spread to schools if there's community transmission. the warning is next. why house republicans confronted liz cheney in a closed-door meeting observer he support of dr. anthony fauci. well, see this handsome man,
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new this afternoon, world health organization official offering up a grim prediction on coronavirus and the coming school year. dr. mcbrien executive director of the organization health emergency program saying moments ago coronavirus will spread to schools if there is widespread of the virus happening within a community. more from my cnn colleagues across the country. >> reporter: in phoenix, arizona, the fight over schools reopening is heating up. several teacher groups organizing protests throughout the state starting today. these are motor marches as they call them. gathering in different school districts around the state and then they will drive through
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that district trying to look for support to cut on the governor to keep schools from opening until there's a certain standard set for how they reopen. we also spoke to a doctor here who says he's organized a letter to the governor of over 100 doctors now. what they want are some sort of standards. they want that level of positivity down to a certain level. they want the rate of transmission at a certain level and stable. they want certain metrics met before they even consider opening those schools. >> reporter: i'm in atlanta. the fda says it identified thousands of fraudulent websites, products and medical devices peddling unproven cures for covid-19. in the past month the agency tracked these activities. some dating back to march, and some of these unauthorized record are massacquerading as
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protective equipment including dietary supplements and certain foods. so far the agency says well over 100 online listing for products and websites domains have been taken down. >> reporter: and i'm in washington. united airlines is now expanding its mask requirement for passengers. the airline now says face covering will be required in all 360 airports that it serves, from check-in to baggage claim. before the policy was passengers only had to wear a mask onboard a flight. the news comes as united recorded a 1.6 billion dollar loss in the second quarter of this year. its worse loss in its nearly 100-year history. >> reporter: i'm in new york. home improvements will not require its employees to enforce a customer mask mandate at its stores across the country. in a statement to cnn they said
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its associates are not expected to put their safety at risk by confronting customers about wearing masks. the home improvement chain says they've added signs at its stores requesting that customers wear masks for the safety of everyone. they're also providing free masks to customers who need them. without a federal mask mandate, corporate america has had to step in and make its own rules. cvs, ball greens, walmart and home depot among the many companies not asking employees to enforce their mask-wearing policies. >> thank you so much to our reporters across the nation. congresswoman wowoman alex ocasio-cortez. a tense exchange at the capitol. see what happened. plus, the trump campaign ads are getting darker and more dishonest. we're going to fact check them.
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a new trump campaign ad warns of chaos and violence in american cities and it features this image of a police officer being attacked by protesters. you know the saying that a picture paints 1,000 words? well, this one is telling lies here. cnn reporter and fact checker daniel dale joins me now. daniel, tell us about this new ad and specifically this image that we just showed viewers, because i guess you could say it's un-american, as in truly it's not american? >> reporter: it is not american. from ukraine in 20714 protesting against the pro-russian president. not the first time the trump campaign used a foreign image as part of an ad campaign and protected a statue in brazil at one point. there is work to do on the campaign. >> and interesting choice from ukraine. ironically done there. another trump campaign ad
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released monday suggested a biden presidency would result in folks calling 911 and then no one on the other end of the line to pick up the call. just fact check that for us. >> reporter: it's nonsense. pure fear mongering. joe biden has not proposed anything that would result in 911 dispatch centers going unmanned or unstaffed as the ad suggests. biden explicitly opposed the idea of defunding the police much lessening no police as trump suggests. the trump campaign seized on a single comment biden made to a progressive activist he said he is absolutely open to reallocating somebody funding to things like affordable housing and mental house counseling. even if you interpret that charitably to the trump campaign biden is not suggesting drastic police cuts resulting in a woman calling 911 for a home invasion and no one answering the phone
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as depicted in what the ad says is "biden's america." >> and trump proposed reallocating local enforcement funds, talked about putting those towards mental health himself. he hasn't mentioned that often. thank you, daniel dale live from washington. cnn just learned president trump is set to announce this afternoon deployment of federal law enforcement agents to chicago. this is happening despite strong opposition from the mayor who says under no circumstances will she allow troops into the city. chicago is experiencing a surge in gun violence, which the city's top police officer says is linked to gangs. cnn's omar jimenez has been following this important story for us, and this is coming after a tragic shooting. tell us more, omar. >> reporter: really is, brianna. for starters, chicago mayor lori lightfoot said at this point based and information she has, she does not expect a deployment
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of unmashed vehicles and/or federal agents but is expecting additional federal resources that plug into partnerships they already have with some of these agencies to try to suppress violence. violence especially deadly in chicago this year and in part for reasons we've known about for years and also in part for reasons that are unique to this year. >> this cycle of violence in chicago needs to end. >> reporter: the latest, grim headlines in what's been a grim year for gun violence in the city of chicago. at least 60 shell casings left behind as 15 people were shot at a funeral home on the city's south side. not long after, in a separate shooting a 3-year-old was shot while in the car with her parents. at this point, not cooperating with police. >> violence is a symptom. a symptom of communities. crying out. young men who don't believe
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there is a future other than being part of one of these gangs or factions. >> reporter: the superintendent of the chicago police department points to gang violence and at least in this latest mass shooting. >> any day of the week any hour of the day several hundred gang conflicts related to that 117,000 gang members. >> reporter: another factor that can't be ignored the ongoing coronavirus pandemic significantly affecting the ecosystem of public safety including jails, courts, community groups and first responders including police. just this past weekend alone over 60 people were shot and 12 killed. 2020 is on pace to be one of the deadliest the city has seen in decades with both murders and shootings up close to 50% compared to the same time last year. it's part of why the trump administration is planning to send in additional federal
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resources to the city. mayor lightfoot said it will bolster their already existing federal partnerships to suppress violent crime basened on information she has. as solutions are beingworked out in offices lives are lost in a vicious cycle. >> the cycle of violence in chicago, someone gets shot, prompts someone else to pick up a gun. the same cycle repeats itself. over and over and over again. >> reporter: now, in the shooting at the funeral home, police do believe at this point it was rival gang factions that set that off, in that case. the person the funeral was actually for was killed in a separate drive-by shooting last week. in regards to police presence, it's our understanding the additional federal resources are not here just yet. meantime, the chicago police department says they are going to step up a more bolstered and
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strategic presence to try to stem some of this violence and they among others fear what comes next in this. retaliation and this already deadly cycle just gets even deadlier. brianna? >> omar, thank you so much. from chicago, omar jimenez. the fox news doctor interviewing president trump today has given rather questionable advice over the past few months including dismissing the coronavirus as the flu. plus, house republicans confronting liz cheney in a closed-door meeting accusing her of splitting with president trump. i'll speak live with one republican who was there. are you a christian author with
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congressman chip roy of texas joining us to talk about this, and congressman roy, there was a member in the meeting who said you specifically, the issue you took with congresswoman cheney was her support of dr. fauci. can you explain why her support of dr. fauci is a problem for you? >> well, brianna, thanks for having me on. look, we had a great conversation in our conference united on opposing the overwhelmingly leftist dremic agenda causing taxes to go up undermine our national security and energy security targeting oil and gas in texas. we're of one mind. be clear. we should have a robust debate unlike lie democratic colleagues. we had a good conversation about it. one, we should be in washington and should be voting, doing our job. we should be here and thomas matthew was right in the march saying we should be in washington voting. i defended thomas massie in that
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and the point about dr. fauci, of course, this is classic swap journalism. i didn't attack dr. fauci. shop ha we should have more voices from science, hear from other the, doctors from stanford university and oxford epidemiologist and doctors saying lockdowns are a failed strategy, talking how we can be open, our kids can be safe. america needs to be back to work, back in school so people can live their lives. that was the debate we were having and an actual robust debate. match than? we don't have debate on the house floor because nancy pelosi won't let us do it. >> it's not swap journalism a member of your conference said that you took issue -- this is a basic thing. she supported dr. fauci. you took issue with her specific support of dr. fauci. what is your beef with her support of dr. fauci and what is
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your beefr with, -- i don't kno you heard from dr. fauci you don't feel is complete enough. what's your beef with that? >> i raised we need to hear from multiple doctors, and epidemiologists. >> what do you take issue with him, though? >> well, the -- >> you're side-stepping the question. >> i'm not. nine years ago next week i was diagnosed with hodgkins limb phone lymphoma. i went to an outstanding doctor, a new treatment now standard of care for hodgkin's lymphoma patients. i didn't just listen to him even though he's one of the best in the world. i got a second, third and fourth opinion. that was my life. my life. we're talking about the lives of millions of americans. dr. fauci has an opinion. i'm happy to hear it. science dictates an objective review. not just going in saying do you believe in science? like talking about belief in god. actually analyzing objectively. having hearings, listening to
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multiple epidemiologists. lots of doctors today say we can go back to school. we can go back to work. we can engage in a way that doesn't involve lockdowns and cripple our economy. 45% of black-owned businesses are closed right now because we've shut down our economy. that's a real statistic. a real example. >> and dr. fauci said on those topics, what do you want a second opinion on? >> dr. fauci, for example, he said several months ago, don't wear masks then changed to wearing a masks. dr. fauci raised a number of different thing and talked about -- >> several months ago surgical ma masks and now we're talking about non-surgical masks. >> lack of need for everybody -- >> i have the quote in early march. discussion and currently we're in mid-july. wait? >> and my point is that the doctor made an assertion he then
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changed on. talking about lives of 330 million americans. talking about trying to seek the truth, and should not just listen to one doctor. >> the president has said that masks are patriot and i think you're familiar with the nuance of the mask comment made by dr. fauci at the time. there was concern n95 masks would be in shortage for frontline workers. i think there is a conversation to be had about whether those comments were, how they were interpreted by people when it came to mask-wearing. the president himself has only recently, very different than dr. fauci, talked about wearing masks and saying that it's patriot, because, of course it does really help the spread. really does help stem the spread. i mean, you're really kind of thinking what he says -- >> no. my point is this. what when he makes assertions, not just that. >> what else is it, then? >> let's have a two-week, or a short period of lockdown or shutting down and then get back,
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then it turns into multiple weeks and months and we have advice that seems to indicate we'll keep our businesses continued to be closed. decimating people's lives. this is real. real people's lives getting crushed. i talk to them every day. the person that invested their entire livelihood in a business to have it crippled and shut down. we get headlines ar the coast in washington, talk about san antonio, texas, the people -- >> and talk about the lies in texas. talking lives crushed, talking lives that are gone. i just spoke with a doctor who is just south of your district. >> hidalgo, yes. >> they are dealing with incredible numbers. >> absolutely. >> death rates, as you know. >> right. >> this isn't just about -- isn't just how you reopen when people are dieing. >> i get it. look, talk about the emergency rooms, icus in austin, texas. 28 people in the main hospital there. the people in icus, 25 are
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hispanic. why is that? because the hispanic population is continuing to work in service jobs so that the people who around austin, texas, drinking lattes and getting on pelotons and stopping by starbucks and whole foods, the service industry is still serving them and they're getting sick. people think they can have their cake and eat it, too. dallas getting slammed. wide open boreds because nancy pelosi refuses to secure the border and people come back and forth and people are infecting each other and it's a bad hot spot. >> i don't think nancy pelosi is in charge of the border, but i want to get back to this meeting. >> a year ago nancy pelosi prohibiting us securing the border. >> liz cheney should step down or removed from her position on republican leadership. do you share that sentiment? a agree with that? >> a lot of what's said in washington. i'm not calling for liz cheney to step down.
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liz is a friend. we need to have a robust debate unlike my colleagues on the democratic side of the aisle, locked up with open borders, they love antifa, nancy pelosi's response people will do whatever they do. go to portland. city decimated. we should have policies that address that and debate at the republican conference. >> how do you think the federal government's response is going now to coronavirus? >> look through the litany of things we've done in response. testing, literally. testing more than the entire world combined. >> how do you think -- >> mass produced and -- go ahead. >> you've seen results. also seen outcomes. so you think everything's going -- you're touting accomplishments -- that, they aren't meeting -- they are meeting what needs to be done for this. do you think everything is fine? >> meeting what needs to be done? right a lot of things are thrown late to do and we're talking about virus.
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two years ago in texas we had an 11,000 people die of the flu. two years ago 11,000 people died of are the flu. about 4,000 die from covid. >> do you think this is shrike the flu? >> this is what you people love to doshgts i didn't bring up the flu. you brought up the flu. >> go look at the report by stamford, walking through the differences. flu is terrible for children. we had 150 people die of the flu, children, two years ago. covid virus, obviously worst for some nor vulnerable. nursing homes 45% of deaths nationwide are nursing homes. we need to do a better job continuing to protect nursing homes in texas and throughout the country. >> what do you want to see from the federal government? any improvement with how things are done when it comes to coronavirus? i'm not hearing you say you do. sounds like you think the federal response is going well? >> i think the federal government has done -- done extraordinarily well producing masks and testing.
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getting things out to the american people. what's important, i don't think they've done a good enough job driving the message for the american people not to be afraid. i've seen polling suggesting that people who get the virus, 5% die. it's not true. it's like 0.0003%. we need to focus on where the vulnerable and not scare our kids. 68% of kids are scared. we're xeering the begeezus. >> it's 40 our 100,000 people with covid are dieing. right? that of what you're touting is not true for what you represent? >> south cale, rio grande valley in south texas, trying to talk about. actually you're taking the fact we have an unsecured border, wide open border dealing with mexico with serious issues with their virus and significant problem in south texas. all of that circulating around
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because people are going back and forth from the border. trying to turn that around. fatality rate in america is vastly less than voez arounded world, japan, europe, our fatality rate is far less. dealing with it in texas with governor abbott. we'll continue to work through. the american people need to go back to work and scohool, botto line and get our hands on the virus. we need to set up field operations in the valley. great. do that. >> the messages right now -- i want to be clear. texas currently is the fourth hardest hit state in the country when it comes to number of cases. right? >> number of -- cases -- number of cases-yes. >> let me finish my question. what you want is, you want to be telling texans and meamericans don't be afraid. we want to reopen.
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sounds like you're saying that. i wonder when you have, for instance, a lot of people who are afraid and you're aware of this, do you really think that just, do you think that saying that to them and not leveling with them is actually something that gives them the pause that they need to actually feel like they're getting the information and an honest picture from the resini iv representatives making them feel more comfortable opening up? >> you're making my paint. call on researchers from oxford and please call -- these are very smart people. >> we have experts, a number of epidemiologists on cnn every day. you're aware of that. >> i know. call the -- epidemiologists who are raising legitimate questions about whether or not we should -- >> look, we're talking about the white house task force. it's not like we're -- we're not deviating from any sort of accepted science here. this is what the white house task force is saying. >> right. but go talk to the doctors who are out there saying, and very
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smart doctors. stamfo stamford, right? not talking about -- >> and the white house coronavirus task force? you want a second opinion on the cdc? >> i want second and third and fourth opinions on all -- >> sounds like you just want to confuse people. >> i want to know the truth, brianna. when my doctor and you know what he told me? he said zero% or 100%. you choose. i think we're going to straight up give them the information. only seven children died in texas and 150 died of the flu two years ago. we have to be able to work through viruses in a way we don't cripple lives, shut down jobs, and by the way, cost lives. how many people are dying from depression, opioid abuse, lack of cancer screenings. one of my friends got a stage three cancer diagnose. we've been shutting down
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elective procedures, access to health care, all because this government has not done, i think too, answer your question, a good enough job explaining to the american people the realities of what we're facing. this is what we need to do. explain the truth and not scare them. not do what governor cuomo did and making everybody feel good and shoving sick people back into nursing homes, causing lots of people to die. >> you mentioned the boarder. it is so bad in the u.s. that mexico wants tighter boarder controls to keep americans from bringing in the virus to mexico. we need to be very clear about that. >> i would love to work with mexico to tighten our boarder security. let's do it right now. >> they're saying the issue is americans, not mexicans. >> if we can work together to secure our boarder, i'd be delighted to do that. we're getting on faup of this in texas. we've been working to keep the curve flat, which is what everybody said we should do in
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march. >> have you seen your curve? that is not a flat curve? >> we've been holding those numbers down. you tout the cuomo -- >> oh, that's just -- >> it's literally the exact opposite of what the experts said. it's the exact opposite. show the curve. it's literally the curve. >> sir, i so wish that when it came to texas i could just put the curve up right now but i do not actually have that. at my finger tips. that's how it works. i don't think -- i do not think you are accurately representing what is happening across texas. but congressman, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> happy to come on anytime. congresswoman, alexandria ocasio-cortez is refusing an apology from a colleague who referred to her as the f'ing
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florida republican law maker is apologizing for his behavior towards new york congresswoman, alexandria ocasio-cortez. they had a heated exchange about rising crime and unemployment in new york. during that argument, a reporter from the hill, allegedly overheard yoho calling her a gender slur, which he denies. >> i rise to apologize for thubrpt manner of the conversation i had with my colleague from new york.
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it's true we disagree on policies and divisions in america. but that does not mean we should be disrespectful. having been married for 45 years with two daughters, i'm very cognizant of my language. words attributed to me by the press were never spoken by my colleagues and i apologize for their misunderstanding. i cannot apologize for my passion or for loving my god, my family, and my country. i yield back. >> now, mike lith is the congressional reporter at the hill is the one he heard congressman yoho say those words. tell us what you witnessed. because as you said the congressman says it didn't happen. >> if you pargs those words, it's a very careful statement he's making, same as the written statement out of their office yesterday. he's saying i didn't direct
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those at the congresswoman and the reporting we did never did connect those with the congresswoman. it was very clear they had the disagreement about crime, poverty, unemployment, etc. then they parted ways. and as he was taking a couple steps down towards the street, towards me, was when he said that she was an f'ing "b". he's saying he said b.s. that was in the statement yesterday. the statement today is i didn't direct it at her. he didn't say i didn't say it at all. look carefully at what he said and i don't know if it's a denial or a nondenial, denial or how kwiequite to characterize i but it's a carefully crafted starmt and a lot of room for interpretation. >> did she hear it? >> i don't think she could have possibly heard it. she was going in the vote and
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they were going out the vote. >> so, if you or i were having a heated conversation and we walked away and i wasn't facing you and i said a-hole under my breath but someone else heard it and you learned about that, i mean, what would you think about whether i was talk toing about you or not? >> well, you know, obviously ocasio-cortez has taken it personally. this didn't happen in a vacuum. it was a very small event in a very big town. and enormous things historically are happening. they're trying to do multitrillion dollar relief package right now. so, all eyes are on other things. but also it's a volatile time in the country. we just had the death of george floyd, two months of protests, all these issues are explosive, they all touch on issues of age and race and gender and culture and ethnicity and party and region.
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and so, i think to have this image of a 65-year-old white man bierating a 37-year-old hispanic woman on the steps of the capitol is what touched a nerve here. her -- hore him calling her an f'ing "b" resonated with a bunch of minority activists and all of this and these are the voices we've heard from in recent days. so, in the context of that, i think that's why he was forced to go to the floor this morning. and of course she didn't accept the apology. so, who knows where it goes from here. i'm done predicting what's going to happen. >> i know. and having covered congress, i think one of the things that is interesting to point out to people is for how divided the congress is, there's a certain level of decorum that happens in
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congress with most members that i think might surprise sort of average americans, right? they know the country is divided and the congress is divided. but this is unusual to hear this language used. >> this is all politics. this is capitol hill. they all know how to play this game. you see this frequently in committee hearings, where they'll really go after each other. cedric richmond really going after matt gates. you know? these were -- they seem like very personal attacks. but then they get out in the hallways and they can have a regular conversation. so, a lot of this is for -- is political theater. this would what happened on the steps was not. they thought they weren't being watched and is wt