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punch from president trump. kate? >> stand by. thank you. appreciate that very much. thank you-all so much for joining us this evening. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" with john berman starts right now. the president did not once mention the single central fact of the coronavirus pandemic at the briefing tonight. the fact that almost 143,000 americans have now died. john berman here in for anderson. nor did the president utter a single word about another fact. the nation's daily death toll surpassed 1,000 and is on the brink of doing it again tonight. more than california eclipsed new york in total cases with texas about to do the same. the president made no mention of these new revised guidelines for reopening schools we were supposed to have seen by now which are being rewritten because the president considers the existing ones too tough. what we did hear with parents and teachers and school administrators increasingly
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concerned about kids returning to classrooms are statements that could be wildly misleading about the risk. >> i would like to see the schools open, open 10 100% and we'll do it safely and carefully but when you look at the statistics i read having to do with children andimpressive. they have very strong immune systems. >> you wouldn't understand the children go back to school, they go back to home and some live with grandparents, this is a risk. >> they do say they don't transmit very easily and a lot of people say they don't transmit and we're looking at that and studying, john, very hard that particular subject, that they don't bring it home with them. now, they don't catch it easily. they don't bring it home easily and if they do catch it, they get better fast. we're looking at that fact. that is a fact store and we're looking at that very strongly. we'll be reporting about that. >> keeping them honest, a new large highly regarded study out
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just this week from south korea cdc the president might have mentioned but did not. it shows that children ages 10 and up are just as good at transmitting the virus as adults and if any of the experts, dr. fauci, dr. birx or redfield have been there, they might have been asked about that. >> i don't think we really got an explanation yesterday why the health experts are no longer joining you at these briefings. can you explain why? >> because they're briefing me. i'm meeting them. i just spoke to dr. fauci, dr. birx is right outside and they are giving me all of -- everything they know as of this point in time and i'm giving the information to you and i think it's probably a very concise way of doing it. it seems to be working out very well. >> very well perhaps for the president in that there is no trusted person sharing the podium to correct him when he turns from the science. we learned that dr. birx' concerns about the science are precisely what held up the new
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school guidelines. the president also strayed from the science when he talked about a cure as though it were just around the corner. >> that would be great if we could go into the hospital and just cure people and we're at a position where actually we're able to a certain extend with what we have right now and we think in a very short period of time, we'll be able to do that. >> so keeping them honest, as nice as those gra mat ticmangle were true, there is no evidence they are or no evidence we're actually able to a certain extend with what we have right now and we think in a very short period of time will be able to do that. nor is there any evidence to support the president's optimism on testing. he pointed the fact 50 million tests have been done in this country but did not mention people have to wait all day to get them and wait up to two or three weeks for results. that is even if they qualify to get them. some states are now limiting who gets tested again despite the
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president's claim months ago that anyone who wants to get tested can. you don't have to believe us, take it from a republican. >> i just feel it's taking us a long, long time to get to a point where we have rapid testing, which we don't have yet, ample testing, which we don't have, personal protective equipment that's still in short supply in certain places. look at other nations. look at germany. the e.u., they had some tough times as we did but they came out of them and we're still struggling in part because of lack of effective oversight of this process. >> when asked by manu raju if he's satisfied with the testing situation, republican senator bill cassidy a doctor said quote, i don't think anybody is satisfied with it. except perhaps the man who can get tested whenever he wants along with all the people around him. early on in the briefing, the president under scored how deadly this pandemic has been to american seniors in nursing homes and that much is true and
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it's a trog agedy but we said something remarkable in light of what he had just said seconds before. >> from the beginning, we have made it our top priority to shelter our seniors. in early march, we announced guidelines suspending all medically unnecessary visits to nursing homes and prioritized resources for those facilities. and we gave it a very strong priority. >> mr. president with all due respect to the office, and ac acknowledging there is blame to go around, if protecting seniors was a priority from the beginning, why have so many seniors died? why can't people get tested? if you're so adamant about sending kids back to school, why isn't there a plan to do it safely and if you're working on a very, very powerful national strategy to fight the disease that took more lives in this country than anyplace on earth, where was it almost 143,000 american lives ago?
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prospeerspective from dr. sanja gupta, also kathleen who served as health secretary in the obama administration. secretary, you know, the president delivered his second news conference in two nights but we still were not presented with a coordinated federal plan to beat the virus. we're nearly at 4 million new cases, daily briefings for the president are one thing but action is another so what do you make of what he's saying versus doing? >> well, i have a feeling tonight once again that the president lives in an alternative universe. i'm not sure who is beaming up information to him but it doesn't match any of the facts that i know. as you say, we just exceeded 1,000 deaths yesterday it's likely we'll do it again today. that is on the uptick. it's not a very good job. the kizer family foundation documented that cases in hot spot states in nursing homes are
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once again on the rise at an alarming rate, increasing at about four times the case rate in non-hot spot states so once again, nursing homes are vulnerable even with the tightest lockdown rules in the world. i keep hearing about lots of shortages of ppe in nursing homes but they are not in good shape. parents are terrified about sending their kids to school with really no clear guidance, no clear information and on mitch mcconnell's desk is a package of resources for cities and states that they could use to hire additional cleaning crews, get additional spaces, hire additional personnel to accompany kids so that you could break them into smaller groups. none of that has happened, and once again, the president declares we are doing a very good job. we have a cure around the corner. i can't imagine who is
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suggesting that is even a possibility or what in the world that means. so i'm really alarmed. finally, he said in his press conference, john, that, youligh troops to come to chicago and reminded me about health issues because i listened to him several times. she clearly does not want troops. i'm with the scientists on this information because nothing, i'm glad you have dr. gupta on but the president is once again giving really dangerously false information to the american public. >> we'll get to chicago, i promise, in a minute and the issue of a cure but sanjay, speaking as a parent, i think more and more confused than anything else, more confused than frightened and when you heard the president say he wants schools 100% open and say children have strong immune systems and don't catch it easily and don't bring it home easily, there is a study this
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week that significauggests some different so where is the science? >> yeah, this study out of south korea is a good study. this is a little hard issue to study for particularly young children because if you think about it, john, since sort of middle of march, the younger children have largely be at home. so they haven't been part of these huge studies. so we don't have a lot of data on that. but in south korea when they looked at kids 10 and older, they found they were harboring as much virus in their mouth and nose and transmitting as much virus as adults. he also said kids have stronger immune systems. actually, young kids and very older people for example are much more likely to get sick from the flu because their immune systems are weaker and that's always been the concern here. it is true that children are less likely to get very sick from this and it's still not entirely clear why, but this issue of them still having the virus and them being able to transmit is a significant one,
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and i think the one thing that is true that the science really bares out is if you live in a community where a lot of virus is spreading, you're much more likely to come in contact with people that have the virus and much more likely when the schools reopen to contribute to significant increases in spread. i can just show you, john, we've seen this graph before but show the israel graph what happens in certain places when schools start to reopen, you can get a sense that you suddenly have a significant uptick. this is what we're trying to avoid. >> sanjay, what about the cure? i imagine no one was more surprised than dr. anthony fauci or dr. redfield of the cdc to hear that we're on the verge of a cure. >> i don't know what he's talking about. i mean, presumably talking about a vaccine. there is antibody therapies and we've done stories on that. we're not on the verge of it. it's tough. it is why we do need to have these scientists there in the room, frankly, you know.
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i mean, there is stuff that's been said. i think having the briefing is a good idea because it reminds people we're in the middle of the worst public health disaster of our lifetime and it's good to remind people of that but sometimes things are said that are wrong and dangerous and sadly, they need to be fact checked realtime. i think he was talking about the vaccine. there is optimism around the vaccine. it's only phase one data. >> secretary sibilas, how long can we wait? >> i don't know. i'm alarmed at a couple of things around the school has been identify and basically it said keep kids six feet apart, do a lot of sanitation and cleaning issues, wash your hands, wear masks.
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i don't know how complicated that is. that's been the guidance all along. i'm alarmed that what maybe happening is some kind of variation of that, which would really deviate from the science but clearly, schools, parents, teachers, grandparents need to know what is happening and states i have a -- you know, sitting here in the state of kansas, unfortunately, our virus is back on an uptick. lots of counties, thanks to the legislature were able to opt out of the masking requirement so we've seen now an uptick in virus and the governor has just suggested that schools delay until labor day instead of mid august. the school board today voted 4-4 on a tie vote to allow counties to make that decision, but nobody knows what exactly the guidance will be and we're talking about 3.5, four weeks from now where kids are supposed
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to be back in school as our virus count continues to go up. that's very dangerous in lots of parts of kansas and lots of parts of the country. >> yeah, something like back to school shopping. sanjay, a study that caught people's attention today and needs more clarity has to do with immunity and the antibodies. this new study suggestions that people with mild cases of covid start to lose their immunity every 36 days it gets cut in half or lose your antibodies every 36 days is a more accurate way of saying it. explain. >> yeah, i think that that is a more accurate way of explaining it. there is two studies that came out of china and italy earlier which basically showed the same the more antibodies you make. that's not entirely surprising but there is a significant difference between the sickest people and people who had
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minimal or no symptoms in terms of the antibodies and study that showed your antibodies start to wayne every few weeks, you know, they go down by a significant percentage. what we don't know, john, is does that mean you're also losing immunity? this is to your clarification. antibodies are easy to measure. we measure those and use them as a corelative. if you think about this, we have not really seen reinfection clusters, right? if you did lose immunity two to three weeks after infection, we would start to see more than anecdotal reports here and there of reinfections. we're not. there is other parts to the immune system that are harder to measure but important. t cells for example. the core of the immune system that can quickly ramp up antibody production in response to a virus. they can attack the virus in other ways, as well.
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so i think the jury is still out on this and i think that i get that it's alarming but we're not seeing those reinfections. i think people are immune still longer than we think. we don't know how long, how strong, the longer than a few weeks. >> so important to reiterate. as of now, we haven't seen clear evidence of reintefection and y think we would have by now. san j sanjay and secretary, thank you. >> good to be with you. next, as the secretary mentioned what the president said about sending federal forces into other american cities and what the founding dhs secretary has to say about how members of his agency are now being used. tom ridge joins us next. later, the hope for one or more vaccines by the end of the year, the plan the president announced for manufacturing one and all the questions surrounding what gets it where and when. as business moves forward, we're all changing the way things get done. like how we redefine collaboration... how we come up with new ways to serve our customers...
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president trump says he'll order more federal agents to prevent the spread of lawlessness the crime wave democrats have been unable to control. chicago mayor lori lightfoot who was the subjek of several pointed remarks said she would welcome actual partnership but we do not welcome dictatorship. like wise, "new york times" tom freed man writes, quote, some presidents when they get in trouble before an election try to wag the dog but starting a war abroad. donald trump seems ready to wag the dog by starting a war at home. be afraid. he might get his wish. many federal agents are under the control of security created after the attacks on september 11th. i'moi hdbook by trying to turn the american people against each other and presenting him as the singular source of law and order. what do you make of that? >> i'm disappointed in my president because it seems like
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a reality tv approach to deal with a very serious problem and if they are serious about dealing with the urban crime in chicago or elsewhere, we'll use chicago since the president has identified that is the place for the surge, let's check this out. 200 officers and by the way, they are not his personal issue but he's going to send in 200 officers, good men and women, no doubt about that to work with 13,000 police, men and women no doubt with a sudden surge and they may have a few arrests and may have a few in prisonmemprisd nothing in this plan, i'm not sure they have a plan. if they talk to the mayor ex chief of police and et cetera, et set tree acetera and leave i weeks and lawlessness will reemerge and under pin the l lawlessness. it's a disappointing response to
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a serious problem but it's typical of somebody who thinks reality tv is real. >> you just use the phrase personal militia to describe what the president is trying to do here and i've heard you say that before in regards to what he has done in portland with dhs officers. what do you mean by that? >> i mean that the men and women in not only dhs but throughout the federal law enforcement agencies and many, many agencies go to work every single day to try to provide safe and secure communities all around this country but you cannot secure the country from inside the beltway. so the best thing you can do is deploy these federal agents, good men and women to work in congestion in cooperation with the state and local law enforcement but you just don't pick up the phone and order them into any community and i would say really will i speak for republicans or democrats or anybody in elected office. i doubt there is a republican or democrat today, mayor or
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governor that wouldn't contest unilateral incarceration of federal agents without coordination with state and local law enforcement officials. i just don't think that would happen or should it, by the way. >> you said it would be a cold day in hell before you agree to that. what's your advice? what's your advice to the governors and mayors where these troops are being sent? >> well, i think -- i'm going to take -- listen, i think the mayor of chicago handled it beautifully. she said she wanted to be cautiously optimistic a beautiful and kind response in spite of the decoloration,s from the white house but i want her to be cautiously optimistic that the optimism will fade if these agents don't sit down with local officials and let them help derive the process and that optimism will fade if they make arrests and have a video camera follow them around and do their job and leave in a week or two.
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i think we ought to take a -- words, we want to be cautiously optimistic but this is a serious problem. the involvement of several hundred agents is a good start but it has to be coordinated with so many activities invol involving political and community leadership and that doesn't sound part of this plan and that's why it's disappoint pointing. it a serious problem and the mayor would like to solve it and the chief of police would like to solve it but the notion you will send in 200 agents and it will disappear, there is a lot of words we use for it but it won't happen. >> feel free to use them here by the way. as far as coordination, the acting secretary of homeland security chad wolf, the acting, not been confirmed to this position nor has his deputy, either. there seems to be a lot of that going around. this is what he said. he said i don't need invitations for the state mayors or governors to do our job. he seems to be openly defiant about doing it unilaterally.
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>> i've often wondered as i look back at the -- i consider it a privilege and opportunity to serve the president, serve my country as secretary but i'd like to think one of the reasons that the president called me is that i had been a governor as he had been and he knows that we are the problems, we need to solve problems at the state and local level and that we're best when we coordinate our activity at all levels of government and that's what the mission was. listen, that's the basis of joint task force. you have the fbi working with the state and locals in law enforcement. some are better than others but have a coordinated plan that meet on a regular basis and set priorities in that direction. the sudden surge and listen, i have some empathy for the acting secretary. i wish he was empowered as a secretary and wish the president would fill upper level management vacancies to make his job easier. while he may think he has the authority to lead, he might, he will not get and achieve the
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outcomes i believe he wants and the president wants and the mayor wants if you act. it's just not going to happen and it never happens that way. you can't secure the country and certainly chicago by 200 agents coming in well intentioned agents to the federal government, not from inside the beltway. can't do it. >> secretary tom ridge, pleasure to see you. thank you for being with us. >> always a pleasure to be with you, as well. more breaking news just ahead, i'll speak with a public health director on how coronavirus is quickly approaching heart disease as the top killer in that city. (upbeat music) - [narrator] this is kate.
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we have breaking news out of los angeles, he says it is working out, the public health director of los angeles says the opposite. >> covid-19 is on track to claim more lives in l.a. county than any disease except coronary heart disease. it's killing more people than all ti all ti all ti a alzheimer's disease. >> it is a hot spot in california that has more total cases than any state in the nation on a per capita basis, far behind states including new york. nevertheless, california's day added almost 13,000 new cases. joining us now, los angeles' public health director. thank you for being with us. coronavirus now set to become one of the leading causes of death in los angeles county. how concerned are you the
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situation is deteriorating? >> thanks so much, john. of course, we're extraordinary concerned. our data for the past two weeks has really been moving us in the wrong direction. we've had about 2200 people in the hospital the last four days straight. that's almost double what it was about six weeks ago. our case numbers every day, new cases of covid-19 are topping 3,000 and of course, our postitive rate ramped up and 10% of everyone tested so yes, we're concerned. we want to take action that we hope we see something different in the weeks ahead. it's the actions we took a few weeks ago that are resulting in the outcomes we're seeing today. we closed down many of our businesses that were operating
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indoors and asked them to move operations outdoors and in person dining if they can do that outside and we've asked businesses directors that we ha have beefed enenforcement and businesses and o other counties with the people that hiv here and work here to do the part. i want to say you're either part of the solution and protecting others or you actually end up being part of the problem. >> many of these measures that you mentioned have been in place for a few weeks since california started see thing rise in new cases again. you're a few weeks in to some of these stricter measures. the los angeles major thyor sai county is on the brink of
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shutting down. so why wait? >> i don't think we have any indicators that would lead us in the direction of shutting down the county. >> what would those indicators be? >> overwhelming the health care system or getting close to overwhelming the health care system. we have ample capacity in our hospitals still. we obviously can't continue to accelerate the daily hospitalizations and maintain capacity in the hospitals but right now we're not overwhelming the hospitals, we're not even close in terms of bed capacity. we do think that the steps that people are taking today will hopefully lead us to a place where we start slowing the spread again and i would say although we did something three weeks ago, we did a lot more things about ten days ago and we'll need to wait another week or two to see the impact of those actions on getting us back
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to slowing the spread. >> as you sit here tonight with us, is there any sign that things are slowing down? >> no, our positivity rate is not increasing and that's a really important indicator for us. we report on the cumulative postity rate closer to 10% but the daily positivity rate, much more sensitive number is back down to 8.5% and it's been about 8.5% for the last few days. if that holds steady or continues to decline, we'll indicate that we're having a little less community transmission. those are the kinds of numbers we'd like to see is any indication that we're slowing the spread. >> i think we'd all like to see that and hope it happens. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me, good evening. just ahead, the big deal the president mentioned on getting a future vaccine to the american people, but when they're ready, can this administration or possibly the next deliver?
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question surrounding any vaccine. first, sara murray how an administration with much approved, plans to make it work. >> reporter: after bundling everything from testing to personal protective equipment, administration wants to prove it can roll out a coronavirus vaccine to millions of americans as soon as ready. the debate is already under way over who should get the first doses. >> i think that people are a little uneasy about the government calling shot. >> reporter: this decision will be apolitical, the nih director called the academy of medicine on the non-governmental medicine to advice who should be first in line. a second group are asking who counts as an essential worker? should race and ethnicity factor in and where do teachers fall? >> the vulnerable will be if not the top priority one of the top priorities. >> reporter: the trump administration is tapping top health officials and industry
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experts to lead plans rather than politicians but administration's operation warp speed is secret. >> certainly asks for your latitude a little bit in terms of my lack of ability to provide a lot of specifics about what we're doing. >> reporter: vaccine developers have contracts with the government to stockpile their product and administration hopes to have 300 million doses available early next year. a timeline vaccine experts believe is overly optimistic. >> this is a big task, even if you have a vaccine getting these people vaccinated is a huge task, you need to convince people. >> reporter: the distribution alone is a monumental challenge. >> we're right at the beginning of operation warp speed as well as syringes and needles and glassware. we secured that to ensure we'll be able to vaccinate the american people. >> reporter: the federal government shelled out hundreds of millions of dollars for glass viles needed to transport a vaccine. >> i think the u.s. is kind of
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set a bar, the critical bottleneck and there will be plenty to go around at the point a vaccine is ready. >> hundreds of millions of ser ringers are on order from companies like b.d. but contract and industry experts suggest the government may come up short. >> i think it's the beginning of the process. the u.s. government is preparing for two shots of the vaccine and so, you know, assuming a population of approximately 350 million people, we're looking at, you know, a total of 750 million or excuse me, 700 million syringes, at least. >> reporter: once the vaccine is available, it could take a year to take a year to get enough taking the vaccine to stop the spread and fears they may be exploited or left out are contributing to american's he is
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take. >> you reached out to the administration. what did they say and how do they plan to inform the american people? >> reporter: that's right, i talked to an administration official, the problem they need to win over the american public and they're planning this big p.r. campaign that will feature a number of doctors we're used to seeing at the task force meetings like dr. fauci and dr. redfield and the surgeon general to talk to the american people about coronavirus issues including a vaccine. >> terrific report. thanks for being with us. joining us, director of medical ethics and art, this really is one of the great questions surrounding medicine. once there is a virviable vacci who gets it first? >> it's a hugely important question. nothing ever appears at once if you're manufacturing drugs or vaccines so it's going to come out gradually.
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we'll see 10 million, 20 million, 30 million, 50 million doses released. here is how i think people are thinking about this or ought to think about it. one is, who is it that's likely to be harmed? so the at risk group is a group we really have to reach out first to that could be people working in nursing homes, people who are residents in nursing homes, first responders, health care workers, we keep hearing that there are big outbreaks in meat plant areas, food handling, prisons. so those are populations that we know are at extreme risk but let me also say, john, if you try to get after people who are at extreme risk, you also have to realize that what was true that produced fda approval in terms of it worked in 30,000 people doesn't mean it going to work for a nursing home resident who is older, maybe 75, 80, 85 years old whose immune system is weaker so we're going to not only have to wonder who goes first but we're going to have to
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study it to make sure it's working. >> that's how we decide who goes first. who decides? >> well, right now, it's not clear who decides. we have as was mentioned in the earlier report, national academy of medicine, most people have not heard of that. the scientists, i think what we need is a national commission made up of interest groups, people can look at it and say there is someone from a stake holder there, nurses, teachers, people from minority communities. we need a credible body because vaccine resistance doubts and fears about any new vaccine, they're not trivial. weirdly, we argue at one end who is going first and on the other hand, there is going to be a significant number of people if they don't trust who is making the decisions, we're going to say you go first, i'll wait a few months and see how it works out. >> then there is the issue of the anti vac community in the united states which is loud and
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organized, maybe disproportionately loud and organized. what is the government's role to get the vaccine to places and people where they may be reluctant? >> well, look, there is a couple of messages that we need to hear. the president keeps talking about warp speed. we need to hear warp speed to a safe vaccine. the word safety better be there. no shortcuts on evidence. no rushing the vaccine through absolutely unacceptable. we also know that people trust factors, deeducate and u understand the facts that are key sales people to get the public to go along and i think we even have to start asking what is up on social media? are we going to let messaging go up that is deceitful? that is just fear mongering. not based on any facts. we can get a pretty effective anti vaccine campaign going with a lot of non-sense. we've seen it in the past with
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social media. >> thank you for being with us. interesting discussion and worth having now before we get the vaccine, which hopefully will come soon. thank you. >> thank you. just ahead, lingering mystery from the president's return to the podium. why give warm wishes to a former jeffrey epstein associate charged with sex trafficking related offenses when you're months away from a reelection? details when we return. this selenite grey is so pretty isn't it? wow. jim could you pop the hood for us? there she is. -turbocharged, right? yes it is. jim, could you uh kick the tires? oh yes. can you change the color inside the car? oh sure. how about blue? that's more cyan but. jump in the back seat, jim. act like my kids. how much longer? -exactly how they sound. it's got massaging seats too, right? oh yeahhhhh. -oh yeahhhhh. visit the mercedes-benz summer event or shop online at participating dealers. get 0% apr financing up to 36 months on select new and certified pre-owned models.
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a big unanswered question tonight. why did president trump give his warm regards to a former associate of jeffrey epstein charged with sex trafficking related crimes? the president's kind words for ghislain maxwell was a stunner during monday's news conference particularly as it reminds people of the president's apparent friendship with both individuals just months before an election. cnn's pamela brown has the
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story. >> reporter: president trump's return to the briefing room took an unexpected turn with his response to a question about ghislain maxwell arrested earlier this month on multiple charges related to sexual abuse of underage girls by her long time companion convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein. she has pleaded not guilty >> i haven't been really following it too much. i just wish her well frankly. >> reporter: the warm wishes for maxwell are bringing renewed scrutiny to trump's relationship with her and epstein who government officials say died by suicide in his jail cell last year after being charged with sex trafficking. some republican lawmakers reacted to trump's comments on twitter, saying this is unacceptably obtuse for a woman accused of the most morally depraved of crimes and she is despicable and he needs to say that. >> i've met her numerous times over the years especially since i lived in palm beach and i guess they lived in palm beach but i wish her well. whatever it is. >> reporter: trump says he has known epstein since the late
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'80s and pictures from the '90s show the president with maxwell who became epstein's girlfriend, associate, and allegedly his madame. one picture shows trump with maxwell in 1997 then again in early 2000 at trump's palm beach property mar-a-lago with his wife melania and epstein. another picture shows trump with maxwell that same year at a new york fashion show and then again with model naomi campbell. epstein's one time business partner steven hoffenberg who spent 18 years in jail for a ponzi scheme told cnn today there is no dispute they knew each other well adding, he liked her and she liked him. in the 2002 interview with "new york" magazine trump showered praise on epstein calling him a, quote, terrific guy and saying he's a lot of fun to be with. it is even said he likes beautiful women as much as i do. and many of them are on the younger side. after epstein was arrested last year, trump had a different tune, claiming he kicked epstein
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out of mar-a-lago years before. >> he was a fixture in palm beach. i had a falling out with him a long time ago. i don't think i've spoken to him for 15 years. i wasn't a fan. >> reporter: prosecutors say maxwell went into hiding over the last year as more victims came forward alleging she lured them in and groomed them to be sexually abused by epstein. one alleged victim claimed maxwell recruited her in 1999 while she was a locker room attendant at trump's mar-a-lago resort though she never alleged any wrongdoing by the president. pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to pamela. just ahead we remember those we've lost to the virus including a brother and sister in their early 20s. doing your part by looking out...for all of us. and though you may have lost sight of your own well-being, aetna never did. by setting up virtual monitoring for chronic patients, 24-hour telemedicine visits, and mental health resources for everyone.
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mother. byron hicks was 20 years old and mychaela 23 years old. catherine hoffman was known as kitty, considered a trailblazer. she worked as a chemistry professor at florida state university at a time when there weren't a lot of women in high profile positions in science. she taught at the university for nearly 40 years and authored textbooks and articles throughout her tenure and before that was a student at the same university. after she graduated she was accepted at duke university medical school. back then duke required female medical students to remain single. but kitty didn't want to be told what to do and instead married her husband hank hoffman and turned to teaching. they were married for 58 years before he died. they had a son together. kitty was known as a strong woman, friends and colleagues say she was witty, fiercely intelligent, and lived a long and vibrant life. kitty hoffman was 105 years old. may all of their memories be a blessing. the news continues. i hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime."
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welcome to "primetime." i am chris cuomo. this country is not going to get back on track unless there is a plan to reopen schools safely. that's what i mean when i say let's get after it. we're not selling t-shirts here. every day that passes without the task force, this white house, congress, someone in power on the federal level telling us what will be done to help the states because just look around you. they clearly don't have the resources or wherewithal to go it alone. every day that passes without a plan is a day that makes it less likely we will get
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