betts is a dodger and happy to be mad about baseball if you get the point. normal if you will. coy wire, thank you so much. >> yes. hello to our viewers in the united states and around the world. top of the hour. i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. this hour, the cdc now says schools should get children back in the classroom. that even as a top trump administration doctor says the science around how quickly children can spread this virus is unsettled. today that official dr. birx offered hope in the worst month of this epidemic and seeing she sees evidence of a plateau in states crushed by the summer coronavirus surge. is she right seeing signs that might be happening? national numbers are still sobering. the united states now well over the 4 million case mark. another nearly 69,000 cases

added yesterday, thursday. 920,000 plus in the past 14 days. the united states has registered its four highest days of new infections. when you shift from cases to deaths, the signal's in the data is alarming. 1,000-plus american lives lost to the coronavirus and something we have not seen since the end of may. we know the national numbers will go down or up so fast only when the big states get their act together so take a look at the numbers as we walk through here. the new case map and looking at it from a 50-state perspective, this map is better than days, weeks, month ago. there's days i have been saying 38 cases going up. only 18 cases today reporting a higher case level than a week level. 18 states heading up. 26 states holding steady. six states going down. some of the drivers of the

summer surge are in better shape today. florida heading down today although they had a high one-day case count. texas holding steady. california holding steady. a big part of the summer surge. it looks better if you look here. new deaths, it lags. cases and then hospitalizations and then deaths. you have 28 states reporting a higher death count than the previous week. looking at in terms of new cases, the seven-day moving average, think about the summer holidays, just shy of 19,000 new cases. july fourth, 45,000 new cases. yesterday just shy of 75,000 cases. can you get to a plateau? looking at the state of florida, a big driver of the summer surge, this is almost straight up at one point. bouncing around a little bit. can they get a plateau?

but if you look at the short-term trend here, yesterday 10,000 cases but they were back above 12,000 today so you have maybe woke up this morning thinking florida was starting to push this down. it's an open question. look at texas. jumping in june and july, as many as 15,000 cases a week ago. now the question is can they get to a plateau in the state of texas? they've been above 10,000. is it a daily blip or continue to get to a plateau? california the most populous state in the country, now the highest case level. very depressing summer in california. sometimes above 12,000 approaching 13,000 cases daily. have they pushed this down? you look at the short-term trend here. 9,400, just shy of 9,500 cases yesterday. you want do get below. stop this here.

can you stop it and then start to push it down? stephanie elam leading the reporting live in los angeles, the epicenter within the largest state. stephanie? >> reporter: that's right. when you look at the number that is california itself put out for the number of cases and the number of deaths using their numbers opposed to johns hopkins numbers and may not sync up exactly right but the numbers out of the state, 12,040 new cases yesterday and 157 deaths. that is a record number of deaths for the state and is the second highest number of one-day total of cases announced in a day. the positivity rate at 7.6% over the 14-day period and from the day before we did see icu patients drop about 4%. hospitalizations down almost 5% from the day before just to keep that in mind. i also want to point out some really discouraging data coming out as far as the latino

population here in california. they make up 45% of the deaths and also more than 55% of the cases. a lot of this pointing to the fact that this population's a lot of front line workers keeping what's been of the economy, the food moving into this county and across the state. they're really hit hard. worth noting that half of the deaths, more than half of th he angeles county. the county announced more than 2,000 cases yesterday. 49 deaths. hospitalizations above 2,200 for the fifth day in a row. that is a concerning statistic there. and the positivity rate, it is at 10%, holding steady there just about for a while and still of concern. they would like to see it getting lower and still because it did not go beyond that we are not going into a further stay-at-home order. however, to that end, the county is now going to start fining

businesses not making it a priority to follow the guidelines and saying that this enforcement and compliance plan from fines with $100 up to $500 and a 30-day suspension of their license for businesses that don't fall in line and saying that for the most part companies are doing their best to fall in line to make it happen but again it is so simple. wear a mask making a difference and for everyone to get this economy back on the feet wear a mask, stay at home as much as you can and keep your hands clean. the fines begin at the end of august. >> stephanie elam in california, those numbers are still sobering and the complications in the state as big as that. appreciate the live. with us is dr. yasmin. so let's start with california. dr. birx today said she is seeing evidence of a plateau. then we get a 12,000 cases in florida. you heard stephanie go through

and you live there, the numbers in california. is that optimistic? too soon or do you see at least maybe the building blocks of it? >> it is overly optimistic, unfortunately, john. i would love to say we are heading in the right direction but we are heading in the opposite direction as stephanie carefully outlined for us, record number of deaths here in california and of course this is happening three months after we saw the crisis situation in new york and in those northeast states. there is absolutely no reason why we should be in this crisis point right now. unfortunately, i think the optimism is part of the cause of that and also it can feel very hopeless and thinking about the doubling of the number of cases right now compared to what we saw in april and can make you feel we have no control over the virus that is not true. a study showed how important it is to wear a mask and physical distance and has we stayed in

lockdown a bit longer, opening more gradually and carefully we would have a different and much better summer right now. >> i wish we had a mump different and better conversation about the prognosis. we have had a lot of optd micim from the trump administration. the president has been more disciplined but listen here because again you are the medical expert. the president offers proof in the positivity rate. he sees a glimmer of hope. i think it's optimistic. let's listen. >> our nationwide positive test rate is beginning to decline and is currently at 8.8% compared to over 16% at its peak in april. it's coming down. it is coming down fairly rapidly. the country is in very good shape than if you look south and west some problems. that will all work out. >> the country's not in very good shape. i want to focus on that positivity.

yes, yes, it is better. you would rather have 8% than 16% positivity rate but an 8% positivity rate is horrible. explain why. >> absolutely. so we're talking here about the number of positive covid-19 tests that come back divided by the total number of tests we are doing and the world health organization tells us for a country or a region safely reopening with a test positivity rate of 5% or less than 5%. so here in the u.s., we have been around 9% or 10%. about double that safe level but here's the thing. we can look at the country as a whole but how can we ignore the hotspots in the country? one thing for the president to say test positivity rate 8.8% overall but look at arizona where the test positivity rate about 25%. that means 1 in every 4 covid tests in arizona comes back positive. we're seeing 16% positivity rate in places like texas, georgia and florida. so it's really -- you don't want

to be complacent about viruses and i say that as somebody that investigated many epidemics. you fail when you get overly optimistic and become complacent. we need to focus on these hotspots because in a month's time we could be having the same conversation but about minnesota, wyoming and without a national cohesive plan to end this virus that's what we are going to see, we'll be playing whack-a-mole for many months. >> grateful for your insights and we'll continue the conversation both about california and about these national hotspots. long way to go on this path. appreciate it. up next, is this safe? safe to send your kids back to school? the cdc says, yes. top white house scientist says it's a bit more dicey. a continuous glucose monitor, you don't have to. with a painless, one-second scan

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reduced meals. over 70% of the students who receive mental health services do so through their schools. we cannot indefinitely stop 50 million american children from going to school harming their development. >> president trump there reiterating the call to get children back in the class room. the cdc with good lines on how states codo that. dr. fauci putting his stamp of approval on the guidelines but saying the decision depends on where you live. out of the top ten school districts nine of them in states with rising numbers of daily cases like florida, texas and california. arizona's case count is beginning to level off even down a bit but the state has decided to abandon earlier plans for in-person learning to start august 17th. now the decisions most of them up to local school leaders. >> many of our school districts have already opted that they will not offer in-person instruction until october so we

do expect that schools will have different start dates depending on local circumstances. in this executive order it's a framework that identify it is different data points that they can use with their county health officials to determine whether or not schools should be open for in-person instruction. >> cnn's miguel marquez is there live in phoenix. just to listen to the superintendent there, complicated and not what they wanted. >> reporter: complicated indeed. so the problem for arizona, while the retransmission rate is coming down, if i get it, how many do i pass it on to, hospitalizations are trending downward and overall cases trending downward. the problem is as they continue to test, that rate of positivity is stuck at a stubbornly hoom almost quarter of the people tested are testing positive for the virus so there's a lot of virus out there. the other problem for arizona is it takes on average about 7 1/2

days for a test to come back. against all of that, the governor's just basically punted saying we can't open schools because if you do kids, teachers, bus drivers, cafeteria workers, they all become vectors for the disease to spread further. when they shut down just as the governor about to reopen back in may, the rate of positivity, the 7-day moving average about 6.5% or so. it is at about 24% now. cdc, w.h.o., other organizations say it should be around the 5% mark or lower. some say you can be 10% or lower. but they have a long way to go. if they halved the rate of positivity right now they would have a long way to go. the department of health services in arizona will come up with a matrix basically of when and how schools can start to reopen, what those numbers have to be. once they hit the numbers state

wide then they can get to how do we arrange the schools physically, keep students separated? how do they wash? how often they wash hands. all those sort of things how i don't do it for the students and the teachers and the workers and everybody else that rely on those schools. it is enormously complicated and a state that has a lot of arizonans upset because they shut down in march, they brought the numbers down. they expected to reopen but instead they reopened too quickly and here we are today with tons of virus out there. john? >> all right. this virus more stubborn than i think people thought it would be. great live reporting for us in phoenix. up next, president trump pulls the plug on his own big convention speech. we'll tell you why. wayfair has everything outdoor

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election is 102 days away and at the moment the president is losing big time in the polls and could explain a 180 on much of the coronavirus stance. the masks the president says patriotic. concedes the coronavirus outlook might be worse than better and canceling the plans for a big rally crowd, bowing to reality just yesterday pulling the plug on plans for a big speech with a big crowd at next month's republican national convention.

joining me is a national political correspondent for npr and dana bash. dana, the president canceling the speech is an adoring crowd is a big deal. the fox news polling, the president losing in minnesota, pennsylvania, in michigan. there's a quinnipiac poll showing the president losing in florida. it took a couple weeks for the president's team to get him to understand those numbers. >> it sure did and they were working very, very hard from as many angles to convince the president that he has to stop ignoring the coronavirus and hoping that that makes it go away, that this is the dominant issue and that nothing else matters. for the country obviously. but the way that they marketed it to him personally was, of course, for his re-election which is where he is almost singularly focused right now so

that is why you saw the change and the shift and the various data point that is ys that you throughout the week. with regard to yesterday, that took sometime and the rnc chair, the campaign manager went to him with options. one to keep going saying it is an option. it will be difficult but doable. and the second would be to cancel and to play it as a sign of leadership. he took the second. and they were very relieved that he took the second and kept it very close hold and people in the com shop and elsewhere in the campaign didn't know about it because this president is known to make a decision but then change at the last minute. they wanted to make sure that he actually said the words at the press conference yesterday. >> that's an understatement. to that point, though, the president -- i won't say that the president is disciplined because what he said even in the new recent briefings needs to go

through the fact check machine but this is him talking about a new world and sometimes he can't help himself. >> it's a different world and it will be for a little while. we want to get the world back to what it was and i think we'll have that, including great job numbers, including so many things that are happening so positive. >> any politician 100 days from the election wants to be positive but not a lot great happening right now, treading water at best in many states and going the wrong direction in others. >> yeah. he's made a number of pretty overt appeals in recent days so kind of this white politics. he had a tweet out yesterday mocked in certain political circles targeting the housewives of america. and you know, a lot of people saw that as a sort of okmessagi

of dual income families but the bigger issue is looking at the suburbs the president is trailing in the polls and he won the suburbs in 2016 and, you know, a lot of his racial grievance politics is not trending particularly well there but that's the messaging he feels most comfortable with and he keeps going back to in this moment because given covid, the economic troubles it is where he feels most sort of at ease in messaging. >> it is an excellent point you make. will it work in the sense that pennsylvania poll by fox news down 26 points in the suburbs in pennsylvania. you can't win without the philly suburbs. down a bodozen points in the suburbs of minnesota. dana, to that point, the president's trying to re-run 2016 in many ways. race baiting, other issues there, sending troops -- federal

agents i should say, into the cities and president obama trying to help joe biden out. this is president trump's take on the reemergence of barack obama in the campaign. >> today i saw president obama with him and remember this. i wouldn't be there if it weren't for those two. if they did a good job, i ran against what they did. and i won. >> he did in part against what they did. he also ran pretty tough campaign against hillary clinton a . you talk to the team all the time. does he understand the dynamic is different when you're the incumbent? >> no, that's so true. he ran against what they did and who he was. and when i say he i mean barack obama. the president is the president because he got himself on the political map pushing conspiracy theory that's completely bogus and race baiting. but on the question that you asked about him being the

incumbent his team understands that and why at the same time they are trying to get the president to acknowledge the coronavirus means more than anything, they're trying from a place, from a defensive crouch in a way they hope that they wouldn't be trying to define joe biden. they're very behind on that. traditionally an incumbent president starts that the person is the presumptive candidate. th they're starting to be aggressive on that and insisting there's signs that is starting to gel and coming to who joe biden is and stands for, the trump campaign insists that there is a lot of -- that they have a lot of leeway on that and that they have some work that they can do to help the president. but it doesn't change the fact that the biden campaign believes and whether they're right or not

a lot of what they have to do is sit back and continue to make this about donald trump. and in a referendum on donald trump and donald trump so far has been playing right into those hands. >> usually works that way when you're an incumbent, especially in crisis, about you and you and you before anybody else. appreciate the reporting and insights today. 102 days but voting starts in about 6 weeks. important programming note, fredericka whitfield with a look at unconscious bias impacts our lives. that's sunday night 8:00 p.m. right here on cnn. still ahead, the trump administration forced to stand down in a big feud with new york. the new york governor joins us live next. (mom) come on, hurry up!

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trump administration standing down or backing down in the fight with new york. the administration lifting a ban on new yorkers using the government's trusted traveler problem and the government admitting it made false statements in a lawsuit over this issue. the governor commenting about it moments ago. >> they got caught. it was all politics, all the time. it was all exploitation all the time. and they hurt this state because of it. you cannot use government for political exploitation. >> new york governor cuomo with us now live.

thank you so much for your time. good to see you, sir. you say you cannot use the government for exploitation. they lied. we often sugar coat words but they lied in a court filing and came back and said, you know what? we have to fix this. you think there's criminal liability. explain that. >> yeah. look. john, thanks for having me. i was a cabinet secretary. you take an oath as a cabinet secretary, even just an acting cabinet secretary or deputy secretary. you have a constitutional obligation and you have an ethical and legal obligation. you cannot use federal resources to play politics and that's all they did here. it was very clear. they were resonating the president's political message which is we're against undocumented people and they said to new york that green light law where we have driver's license for undocumented people, they wanted to make an example out of new york and make an

example out of having a driver's license law for undocumented people. and they retaliated. they stopped the trusted traveler program with nothing to do with undocumented driver's license. it started back in february. i said it was pure politics. i said about 15 states that had undocumented driver's licenses. what is unique about new york? except you want to play politics. the republican states that had undocumented driver's license. but they were just playing politics and they got caught. they lied and they got caught and i want to see what department of justice really does now. attorney general barr, let's let him look at his oath and see what he does. i think congress should be all over this, john. >> the congress part maybe you might get help from the democratic friends in the house but you haven't been in a cave for six months because i have been here as you brief people on television and can't assume you have a reasonable expectation

that this president's attorney general will listen to a word you just said. >> well, look. if you're attorney general barr you have to look in the mirror sooner or later. right? you're right. there's no way he'll go down in the book of distinguished attorneys general in my opinion. you know that you have a cabinet department, homeland security, that was a political ploy that lied about it, that got caught. one point don't you have to do something, john, that has something to do with justice when you're the head of the department of justice? >> well, we'll watch that play out. maybe that's something to do with correcting the lie, the mistake in the filing but we'll see as it plays out but to that point mr. barr with the president at the moment are involved in if you would ask the portland mayor saying it's reckless, using federal agents,

the president said he'll send them to chicago and other democratic cities, as well, what would the governor of new york if the president decided in new york or somewhere else in your state you needed federal agents because he sees a threat to courthouses or to statute or federal property, anarchy the president calls it? >> yeah. i spoke to the president about it. if you remember, john, he mentioned new york city in the litany of cities and i understand the politics of the day and i understand the political statement he is making. but i had a conversation with the president on the phone about new york city. there is no justification in new york city. i said are there any federal pr properties that you are worried about? if you have a concern, let me know, state and the state stands ready, willing and able to take care of a need. and i did have a good conversation with the president and we left it that he was not going to come into new york city. if anything changed, he would

speak to me first. but you are right. the legal rational would have to be endangering federal property and he thought it was necessary to bring in federal agents to protect federal property. that's the best legal ground. it doesn't exist in new york. i don't know if you have a bona fide case of portland. the federal government doesn't have a police force. it is not in the constitution. that is left to the states. >> same department of homeland security, you are talking about here with its officers out in these places. we shall see how that goes. i have your time and want to use your experience. the country has watched new york go up the hill first and i believe the viewers can see now and putt on the screen new york's path up the hill and down the hill with the coronavirus. i'm sure you can't see the graphic but i also know that it's seared in your memory of this hill. the coming down part is fascinating to me, a bad word, but because even as you started to come down you had more cases

on the downward side, more deaths. you oar watching right now florida, 12,000 cases plus today. they have been around 10,000 or 12,000. texas, arizona, california. as you watch this play out now in other states, nationally the positivity rate is 8%. in arizona it is above 20%. in florida 19%. what is your advice to these governors? most of them republicans but democrat in california and as they go through what you have lived. >> yeah. first, john, when they write the history book on this one it's ugly. you want to talk about a national tragedy? none of this had to be. how can we be in this position five months ago we knew what was coming and we're still flat footed. what happened in new york city is going to be another chapter in the book. what happened in new york is the virus came from europe. and the federal government totally missed it. we didn't find out until it was

too late that the virus went from china to europe and then from europe coming to new york. the european travel ban that the federal government did much too late to stop it so we had a spike. we had to get those cases down. and we were ambushed by the virus. that didn't happen anywhere else in the country. they didn't have a spike. they just had to make sure it didn't increase. that's all they were dealing with but there's two points. you have people who are in denial is the first issue. that is compounded by this division across the country, lack of unity. and then you have secondarily government incompetence. it is both factors. in new york we had to get the people to understand the facts and how serious it was. we had to put aside the politics. i had them focus on the facts, on the science. i did it every day. and new yorkers got it.

they understood it. they didn't think that it was political and they knew what they had to do and then the government stepped up. you have to get testing in place. i'm talking to local governments. they don't have testing or tracing. talking about ten days to get test results. you talk about running out of hospital space. you know? five months ago we knew what operations had to be performed by government. how are we still where we are today? >> let me jump in there. when you say there's government incompetence in the here and now watching this play out across the country, the governors of florida, texas, california incompetent? is this all a federal thing for you? >> i think it's all across the board on different levels. right? and the history books will decide or the voters of a state will tell you. the people of new york will tell

you what they thought of the job i did. i think the federal government no doubt slow. i don't even get this whole leave it to the states, you know? every state has a crisis but not a federal crisis. i'm not sure how that works. and then you have certain states that i think have acted adequately and certain states that have not but you know when you talk about the operations, john, just what are the problems we're asking? ask yourself how can this be five months latter? how can we have issues setting up testing? you know? new york, we had to get the testing set up in two weeks. here we have had five months. so i think it's both those factors. you had a nation in denial, a nation that played politics with it. and then government competence. >> agree with you on that last point. every day i go through the numbers and the maps and how can we be here in five months later is a question everybody should ask.

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senior u.s. government officials saying they're taking a chinese official in custody. he is accused of visa fraud, the latest in the list of charges from the united states including claims that china is using its diplomatic outpost here as an espionage network. you can see moving trucks right there outside. that's today ahead of the deadline to close. kylie, yes, china spies on the united states. yes, the united states spies on china. why is this escalation so dramatic? >> we are learning more about this week, john, is just how much the state department and the department of justice are really working together to confront china and to confront what they describe as widespread chinese economic espionage and intellectual property theft. so this arrest, the person being taken into custody today, that chinese scientist is noteworthy

and also the details to learn about why they decided to order that china had to close its houston consulate. i want to read to you a quote today from a senior justice department official saying of the houston consulate, quote, it's a microcosm. we believe of a broader network of individuals in more than 25 cities. consulates have been getting individuals in that network guidance on how to evade and obstruct our investigation. you can infer from the ability to task that network of associates nationwide. so indicating there that the houston consulate was working with espionage efforts across the u.s. and that's why they decided that it had to close down and i think it's important to note that the department of justice has been focused on this for a long time now. that seen your justice department official saying there's an increase of 1,300% of cases related to economic espionage and china in just the last 10 years and the state

department is a little bit handicapped with regard to what it can do to go after works working at an embassy doing things illegally. that's because of the diplomatic immunity and shutting down that consulate is one way that they could get around it and we should note, john, everything that happened this week is really in line with the rhetoric that we have heard from the trump administration, just yesterday secretary pompeo said that confronting the chinese communist party is the mission of our time. john? >> mission of our time. we will see if the retaliation from china and then whether the further escalation. i suspect an early chapter as dramatic as it is. up next, the summer surge raises a giant question. are we learning coronavirus lessons or ignoring them? when we started carvana, they told us

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that that we thought what was happening in new york was the worst it could be and other places took the cue to shelter in place but we have lost patience with that for some extent and now paying the price in other parts of the country. >> and we are paying the price in other parts of the country. and if you look at the united states versus other parts of the world here, just the united states versus asia and the european -- africa, i'm sorry, and the european union. the united states supposed to be the leading democracy and superpower. why is the quite up there and other people are doing a better job? >> it is a great shock because everyone thought before this pandemic hit that the united states would be the leader. we failed. i think badly in that. largely because of the lack of consistent messaging and leadership and a failure to understand how serious this pandemic is. >> and so, what now?

when you do get to the point of california, florida, texas, the big, big giant states with high daily case counts, death counts rising, how do you get to a plateau at least and then start to push it down? >> we have to do multiple things. we all as individuals have to do our part. we have to choose to reduce our risk of both being infected or infecting others. and that involves avoiding places of congregation involving physical distancing of some form, wearing a mask when outside. so we all have to do that and we need strategic and consistent leadership from our local and national governments to take a plan of attack to slow down the epidemic and we did that successfully in california at the beginning but need to do it again. >> we are in a cycle here. dr. jewell, appreciate your time

here today, sir. thank you for joining us today. stick with us. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. have a great day and a great weekend. i want to welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. today we begin with a snapshot of where america is in its fight against the pandemic. if you're angry or confused, it makes sense. the response to the pandemic by the congress and the president is a failure. more than 4 million cases, more than 143,000 lives lost, more than 50 million jobs lost since mid-march and only now dpuz it seem that president trump is kind of bowing to the reality of the pandemic. in politics, admitting you were wrong and changing the position ca