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with the virus that he was fighting so hard to contain in his county. david prasifka was 58 years old. and our heart goes out to him and all of those lost in this pandemic. the news continues. i'll hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." >> have a good weekend, my brother. i am chris cuomo. welcome to prime time. one thing is clear as we come to the end of the week and here it is. >> what changed this week? why did his tone change? >> there has been no change. he hasn't changed his tone. >> now, she's trying to get you to think that the president has always said wear masks, the president has always said the pandemic is real and going to get worse. that parties not true, but she is right about tone. the president's tone hasn't changed. he is still tone-deaf to this crisis. a million cases in two weeks. turn around times on test results i don't need to tell you
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but it's true what you know yourself. the results are getting longer and longer. over a week even longer in too many places. this president offers no plan to increase our ability to test and trace. he says he wants schools to reopen in a week in some places and offers no plan to help them do it and to help them keep schools open. opening them is easy. keeping them open will be hard. how do we keep our kids safe? how do we keep the teachers safe? nothing. that's tone-deaf. his white house is right. schools are like essential places of business. so why don't they treat them that way? make a plan. hashtag where is the plan? states are asking for help all over the country. you hear them on this show. they're getting none. why? he has waited so long to act that now more 150 prominent health experts are saying it's
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too late. they don't think we should be open in any way right now. 150 of them say we need to shutdown again and start over as the only way to get us back. and yes, i will argue against that against one of the big minds who is signing onto it. a key cosigner that is about an open letter to america's decision makers about what they need to do and why. dr. zika manuel, a former obama health policy advisor joins us on prime time. good to see you, my friend. >> nice to be back, chris. >> so first off present the case. why do you and so many others believe that we need to take a step back? what does that mean and why? >> well, we reached a peak in april. we were coming down and then we had this rush to open up we plateaued and now we're up even higher than we were in april. conversely canada, germany, lots
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of other countries have been able to come down to zero because they have a uniform national program. they executed, they waited until the numbers came down very, very low before opening up and they opened up in stages. that's what we need to do. we really need to have everyone doing it because if we separate out by states, some states open, some states close down, some states wear masks and others don't people travel and they'll carry the virus. we need to have a uniform plan. it'll be painful and we acknowledge that. but in 6 to 8 weeks we'll have our numbers down and then we can open up and suppress rather than have the situation now where we have 70,000 cases a day, almost a thousand deaths a day. that is untenable. >> all right, the response is no way on three different levels. let's go through them. first, no way because too many states have done it kind of the
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right way. new york, states in new england, states on the pacific northwest, and they have cases in a place where they're able to do phased re-openings. things are going well. they don't want to take a step back. what do you say to states like that? >> i think florida said that same thing. we don't have any cases here early on in march and april. we're not seeing the problems in the hospitals. and what was my response then? just wait. and what will the response be to new york? yeah, there are people in florida who are going to come back to new york or people in texas who are going to come back to new york and you're going to have an outbreak. i want to say something, chris. we have learned something since march and april, and that is you can be in the house, you can go outside, you can walk, you've got a face mask on, you're going to stay 6 feet away. it's different than having dining inside restaurants, dining inside bars, gym and other things where the activity
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is, you know, inside crowds for a prolonged period of time. we do know we can actually have people have a more balanced life while they're actually keeping separate and we're not having all these businesses open. >> okay, the second no way is welcome to america, dr. zeke. these people don't want to do this. they're railing against masks. they're fighting in all these different places. i would argue somewhat egged on by this president until this week, and he certainly hasn't called out any of his followers for behaving that way. so america won't do it. what do you say to that? >> we do have a problem, and the problem has been as you point out leadership and consistency in message and consistency in guidance to the people about what they need to do. and i do think if the president got behind this and he did get all of the governors behind this i think you would have a very different tone because people
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wouldn't get a blessing. remember the president was the one who tweeted, you know, liberate michigan, liberate minnesota. >> toxic. >> and that caused a lot of the problems, absolutely. >> toxic, completely toxic. even until this week. and now the third reason is of course trump. as you well know with your contacts the task force, the cdc, nih, they want to do more -- hhs. they want to offer guidelines, they want to have nationwide standards. they want to have more control. the president is against it clearly. and on that score how big a deal is it that he's saying open schools but they offer no uniform guidelines how to do it, money for resources, money for staff and ppe and et cetera and same on nationwide testing. that we have so much great testing but the wait times are going up and the accuracy. how important is a nationwide strategy and set of guidelines? >> oh, it's absolutely vital.
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and i think you're totally right we've been lacking that. if you read actually the cdc guidance on opening schools it's 12 pages, two of which are footnotes. the first two thirds of it are justifications for why we should open school, and then the meat of it basically four pages is really more of a checklist. it doesn't consider opening schools and all the question from transport to school to classroom to lunch to physical to gym and recess and athletics. it doesn't go through all of that and how to protect people. the main contribution is keep people in pods or groups. it's that guidance. >> i'm shocked by not having better ideas. everybody says the same in schools and i know they come to you for guidance as well. we need square footage. but nobody'sing about all the unused public spaces, the libraries, the churches, the
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buildings aren't being used right now that could be represented and create commerce and opportunities for schools. you know this but for you watching the show if you go back into america's history we've dealt with schooling in pandemics before, in big areas of infection. they did it outside. we adjusted to this before. we're not adjusting to it now, and it's so sad. vaccines. here is my concern with vaccines. i want your take. fauci says that we're going to have one sooner than later, that it's going well. i don't think people are going to want to take it. i think that it's going to say it's not safe, i don't like vaccines anyway, we don't know that it really works, i'm not going to take it. how do you deal with that? >> well, you have to deal with that like everything else. you need leadership and a consistent message. the first thing that has to happen is the president has to take it himself. when we started polio one of the things they did is they got
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elvis to take it on the ed sullivan show. that's the kind you need to have happen here. you need celebrities and others march up and be among the first to take it and to broadcast it widely. and i think, you know, that is going to be absolutely necessary. polling does suggest that 60% or 70% of americans now are beginning to understand that they want the vaccine, but it is an uphill battle. only 45% of americans actually get the flu shot every year. of adults, not americans -- adults. if we could get that up to 70 or 80% it would make a dramatic difference and that's what we've got to aim for. >> yes, sir, last point to you. >> yeah, one of the other things is having a vaccine and actually being able to produce it, put it into sterile vials, get it out there and get it into peoples arms that's a massive effort and i have no assurance the president and his team are going to be able to do that. >> well, it won't be the president luckily. it'll be the guys at barta and
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the pros and experts and the a-team at warp speed. you know some of those people, i know some of those people. they are the best in the business. hopefully they'll get it done and there's as little interface with the white house as possible. as we get closer to when schools start to open i'd love to have you back on in a week or so just so you can go through here's what they're doing and plot doing and here's what this will likely mean in a number of weeks from now. it'll help our audience understand what we're getting our kids into. >> thanks for having me. >> always a plus. and by the way zeke's got a new book. it's called "which country has the world's best health care." it's a question. he answers it for you in the book. on sale now. all right, the crisis within the crisis is being felt all across this country right now. you know what i'm talking about. parents, what do we do if our
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kids don't go back to school? what are the consequences? how do we deal with it if they do go back to school in this way? it's weighing heavily on our minds, right? we have a mom of two kids in elementary school in georgia tonight, one of the key states. now, she is pushing for at least a partial reopening. she heard what zeke said. why? and she knows what's happening in her county. she knows cases are on the climb. her case, though, about her situation next. of people in a p. but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. so, when you get a check... you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can detect suspicious activity on your account from here. and you can pay your friends back from here. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?" you can tell them: here's my bank. or here's my bank. or, here's my bank. because if you download and use the chase mobile app, your bank is virtually any place. so visit chase.com/mobile.
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georgia is in rough shape. they hit a new record for cases, of course, coronavirus cases. close to 5,000 today. the state now has more than 160,000 victims in all. more than 3,000 deaths. yet families in one of georgia's hardest hit counties are fighting their school district's decision not to offer in-person classes starting next month. take a look. >> that's our future! >> okay, that's our future they're saying. you can see a group of students storming the district offices. plenty of parents are protesting as well. county school officials originally planned to partially reopen. they reversed the move days ago because of rising cases and teacher opposition. one of the parents involved is
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kelly williard. she is one of the parents who actually organized the protest and she joins us now. thank you for joining. >> thank you, chris. >> now, i want to make clear to people what this isn't about and then we'll talk about what it is about. you are not a rabid trumper who is just supporting the president by fighting any decision to keep schools closed. is that correct? >> yes, this actually has nothing to do with being a republican, a democrat or even an independent. this is an issue about our children getting back into school safely and what we can do about that and the choices that we have as parents out there right now. >> or the lack of choices that you have as parents. i want to make it clear. i want people to have an open mind how hard this is going to be for families. i feel you on this. personally i feel you, and i just didn't want people to dismiss you out of hand by saying she's just a trump follower. she's against masks, she's
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against everything. that's not what this is. so your argument is we need options because if the kids aren't in school it's bad for the kids but also it's almost unmanageable for people if they're able to get back to work. because unless you're working from home you're not going to be at home. and if your kids aren't in high school or even if they are you're not going to have the money to have somebody watching them while you're at work. and you don't like it for them, and you don't like it for you, is that correct? >> that's exactly correct. and i will just state this, again, has nothing to do with being a trump supporter. i'm actually an independent myself. we have parents of, you know, representing the democratic party, republican party, independent party. at the end of the day we're all just parents and we all have a common goal of getting our kids back into school and getting our kids back in safely. and we've had, you know, public education in this country for hundreds of years, and now all
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of a sudden two weeks before school, you know, the rug is getting pulled out from underneath us all and we're scrambling. all of us parents are scrambling how to get our kids back in school, how to manage the fact if we don't have, you know, face-to-face learning what are we going to do? are we going to get child care, or do we get a teenager to come to our house while they're doing their digital schooling during the day? do we get pods? there's a lot of talk right now with parents trying to get these micropods in place. some parents that are fortunate enough can have their kids in private school. but, again, it's a complete scramble. we're two weeks out from school and i have to say i don't envy them at all. i think they probably have one of it hardest decisions right now to make is get kids back in school safely and how they're going to do that as well as all
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educators across america. the county did such a great job offering parents a vote back in june. >> right. >> and again in july, which the majority wanted their kids back in person, and the additional parents wanted to have the digital option. when they made that choice back in july they also said that kids were going to have to go back with masks. >> right. >> so we were fully onboard with the masks and creating that safe environment for kids. >> that's the problem. here's -- this is why this is such a dilemma, okay? there's no good answer. that's why. this isn't about petty politics. this isn't about money. it's not about any of those things. your state is in trouble. your county is in trouble. so the superintendent lays out what the problem is. i mean they want to be back in school also. the president's threatening to pull federal subsidies from schools. it's not like they have money to lose. i think we all understand
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face-to-face instruction is always a preferred model. of course that's what school is. but that needs to be done at this time with a pretty good assurance students and staff will be safe, and we did not feel that was the case. here's the problem. you know we like to take on fights on this show. you don't have a great case against him when it comes to safety because he's got a lot of bad data staring him in the face. superintendent jay alven willbanks because cases are on the rise your governor has been backwards in terms how he's been dealing with this in jump. schools haven't been given a plan. so there's a risk you send your kids in there, they're going to get sick or some kid is going to make a teacher sick, and then what? how do you deal with that? >> well, that is one of the things we're concerned about. we don't want anyone to think that's not something we're not concerned about. we're very concerned about kids getting covid and also teachers getting covid.
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but we feel that qwinette county spent in particular over a million dollars to get these kids back in a safe environment. they spent millions of dollars on face masks, on hand sanitizer, disposable safety wipes. they also took measures to do training for the janitors of the schools, so we feel like they really took all the necessary measures. i think -- >> they say no. they say that money wasn't enough. the cases are -- you know another big thing they can't control, turn-around on testing ti time. look, it would be an x-factor for you and me either. god forbid we hear our kid has a case in the pod. let's say they did do pods or classes or whatever we call them going forward, now we've got to get tested. so we go and i've got to get my cha-cha tested or whatever your
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kids name is. we're waiting for results, and in that time what do we do with them? and in that time we're waiting to hear about some other kid what are we doing? that's the problem here. the million dollars doesn't get you around that problem. >> no, it doesn't, and i think your last guest said it best. we don't have any leadership going on in this country of how to get these kids back in school. yet you look at it and you have disneyland is open, dollywood is open, the grocery stores are open, the airlines are open, corporate america is opening up, gas stations and what have you. and then we as parents feel like we just got left in the dust and you all just figure it out. you know, my kids were watching "the titanic" the other day and you know the scene at the end of the movie there's just a few life boats and you watch all the people on the rest of the ship and they're going down with the ship? that's how we feel as parents. we just feel like we got left in the dust, and this will be a
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huge socioeconomic gap for parents because the majority of parents in this country can't afford to have private tutors or private, you know -- >> absolutely true. >> -- private schools. we can't afford that. what is everyone doing? the government bails out. they did trillions of dollars with the bail outs on wall street and they're doing nothing for us parents. and no one's really talking about it, and that's why i do appreciate the opportunity to be on your show just to really be a voice for these parents. the other thing i do want to make really clear, chris, is the parents that want their kids to have in-person learning we are not in any way, shape or form trying to take away that option that the parents that want the digital option -- we are fully supportive of those parents 100%. while we're also very supportive 100% of our teachers. we love our teachers. there are teachers that want to
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go back, and we recognize those teachers that don't want to go back, and we need to have options for those teachers whether or not they are, you know, we repurpose them, whether or not they're solely digital people for the teachers that want to digitally learn or they're the private tutors for families. whether or not we repurpose them somehow administratively throughout the system. but nobody's helped us. it's just every man for himself, and there's nothing on a national level that's consistent. i mean -- >> well, there's nothing at all for schools. they just keep saying open, which only frustrates parents like you because you want them open, too. the question is how and how do we keep them open. in truth education is a state issue. it'd be nice to have federal intervention. the president is picking his spots when to send people around the country. this would be a nice pick. your governor has to answer to you for this. where are his ideas?
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is he offering up other public spaces, churches, libraries, places they can rent? what are his ideas? they owe you that. and i want people to understand what you're about and what you're not about. it's about practicalities for you and your community and there are kelly williyards all over this country and i appreciate you coming onto make the case. good luck to your family and most importantly good health to your family going forward. >> likewise, chris. >> be well. >> you, too. the president tried to get pay back on his former lawyer, michael cohen. a controversial figure. this isn't about whether you like him or not. it's about the law. and cohen had rights. everybody in this country does. what he didn't do what the government wanted him to do visa vi trump he wept back to jail when he wasn't supposed to. a judge said that, not me. a whole string of cases this
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week that blow open some of the most egregious trump power plays. so many that we came up with a new segment. fight the abuse of power. fight the power, fight the abuse of power. it's not the best title. i'll do better. next. t-mobile and sprint have merged. and t-mobile doesn't just have a bigger network, but a better one than ever before, with scam protection built into its core. introducing, scamshield, free from t-mobile. get fewer scam calls. period. with t-mobile's supercharged network, you can say goodbye to annoying scam calls, and feel free to answer your phone again. hello new microban 24 watch as microban 24 kills 99.9% of bacteria... and then, even after multiple touches, keeps killing bacteria for 24 hours. i trust microban 24 to keep killing bacteria for 24-hours.
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part of this job is to fight back against power for you specifically abuses of power. and here's what we see. trump's poll numbers are horrible. that's the only thing that's changed. the pandemic has been bad, and it has been getting worse for weeks. so the reason he talked about the obvious with masks that you've been told for months and that this pandemic may well get worse, which you've been told for weeks -- the only reason he said it this week are those numbers. why? because for him it's not about getting things better for you. it's about getting things better for him. he says he's all about protection of you. i say you need protection from him when it comes to the pandemic. he is leveraging power for himself. here's the proof.
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time and again this week just this week alone he's been caught leveraging the power of the office for him. not unlike what he was impeached for only months ago. impeached. we have to call it out. but you don't have to take my word for it, okay? this all came down in court. example one, michael cohen. again, controversial. i'm not arguing to like michael cohen. the president's long time personal attorney is out of prison rightfully. he was initially released to home confinement due to the pandemic like a lot of prisoners, but then he refused to sign a document. what did the document say? that he would not work on a tell-all book. he didn't understand that. why did he have to give up his first amendment right in order to be furloughed? what did the doj do? they tossed him back in the lock-up. a federal judge said that's retaliation and it violates his first amendment right. it's a move unlike anything the judge has seen in 21 years as a judge. again, it's not about cohen.
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it's about the law. and it's about abuse of power. meanwhile the department of homeland security, they came clean about false claims that were made to defend another political power play by this president. dhs admitted in a court filing it was not straight in defending why the agency prevented new yorkers from taking part in a program to get through airport security faster with options like global entry. remember this? the trump administration blocked new york, okay, over a state law meant to protect undocumented immigrants. it was retaliatory because they had the power to do it. but just because they had the right didn't make the way they used it right. it was wrong and abusive, and the court said so. just last night a federal judge put restrictions on the president's forces in portland. it took a restraining order to tell federal officers that
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journalists and legal observers have a right to do their job. in america. can you believe we're having this fight? and i'm telling you this president is not done. trump just sent forces to seattle. nobody asked. what is the federal law they're there for? remember in portland they had to defend the courthouse from what? graffiti mostly. really? that's why you had to tear gas people. that's why you had to strong arm people and break a veterans hand for graffiti? the mayor doesn't want them there. she says it undermines public safety. same thing they said in portland. why? what's her proof, what's her concern? next.
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to ask for federal help. that includes mayor jenny dirken of seattle who joins us now on prime time. mayor, good to see you again. >> good to see you again, chris. >> so much for the summer of love. i mean, this just keeps getting worse and worse. i want to make sure the reporting is right. is it true you spoke to the acting dhs secretary wolf and that he said, i will tell you before we do anything with troops, and then you found out that troops had in fact been sent? >> chris, i spoke -- that's exactly right. i spoke to him yesterday. i wanted to make clear that the city of seattle did not need federal help at this time, that we'd been threatened by the president and others they'd send agents here over our objections. he assured me he did not have any intent to surge agents to seattle and he would tell my
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chief if that changed and shortly after that we learned agents had been sent here supposedly just on standby. >> so was he being clever, or do you think he flat out lied to you? >> i think it's a combination of things. i think number one it was semantics and number two i've since learned he believes he did not have all the information when he spoke to me. whatever it is we have seen we have to make our judgments what's going to happen based on what the president threatens because he makes good on his threats. >> well, look, it all depends. one thing that's consistent about this president is inconsistency. now, when you went back to wolf and said now you kind of owe me because you lied to me about the staff surge the rules of engagement -- what are you being told right now about what these federal agents will do and not do? >> what we're told right now is that these federal agents are
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just on standby. it's because the federal protection service that normally provides protection for the courthouse has been called to portland, and they will only be called out for a specific threat. but we have to assume that what is happening in portland could happen here. >> which is what? >> which is you have seen the introduction of a significant number of federal agents who night after night after night have escalated violence and have had a fight, a running fight on portland that has created there a public safety risk and has made the city -- it's incapable for them to move on and get to the healing they need and do what they need to do to make the important systemic changes that people are demanding in the streets. and in seattle we want to make sure that that doesn't happen here. we've done a couple of things. number one, we're going to demand the assurances, but we're going to have another policy. we are ready to go into federal court and have a judge order them to have the same
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restrictions that a federal judge ordered in portland. because we want to make sure what's happening in portland doesn't happen here, that we don't escalate the violence. >> what is the response to this? the president says cities like seattle, lawless, out of control, you can't control it, you can't, the mayor can't, the governor's a joke. if they just asked for my help i'd come in there with a thousand guys and i'd help it, i'd clear it all up for them. what's your response? >> i trust my chief of police carmine bess to know more about what we need in seattle than i just donald trump. she is a national leader. we talk regularly and the president has also said he's targeting cities led by democratic mayors, and i think that is absolutely true. he is leveraging his power just as you said before for his own purposes. cities do need his help and we needed his help for covid. we needed him to leverage the power of the federal government to get us testing, to get us
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what we needed in cities to fight this disease. but instead we're going the wrong way in america. instead of giving us the help we need he wants to send in federal forces and agents to escalate tensions. not only do cities not need it, america doesn't need it. this is one of the most dangerous escalations. i was a federal prosecutor. i know how important it is for federal law enforcement to work with local law enforcement. as the chief federal law enforcement officer, as a u.s. attorney i know that's an important relationship. i've never seen anything like this in my career where federal agents are sent in not even not with a cooperation of local law enforcement but over their objection. it's unprecedented, and it's the wrong way to go. the fabric of america is being shredded before our eyes, chris, and it worries me greatly. >> this is the stuff of autographs and we're going to have see if the institution of society and the will of jurisdictions is enough to fight it back. we'll see.
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mayor dirkan, thank you for going on the show. >> thank you. >> time to take a breath and remember there are good people doing good things, super heroes, in fact. guess who we have tonight? captain america, actor chris avenuean evans wading into a world of politics. he's running from a system that doesn't give us enough information. he wants to arm voters like you with facts and allow access to power to make judgments and understand things. make way for the captain. damn, he's handsome. next. ♪
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but i want to remind you what he did recently that i think is phenomenal. remember 6-year-old bridger walker saved his 4-year-old sister from a dog attack this month and how we just love what he was about because of what he did, because it was natural in him and it reminds us what we can do for one another. underwent 90 stitches to his face. his aunt shared the story online and noted she tagged avengers stars and said he's a big fan. now, that was a beautiful thing. but for iron man, the hulk, spiderman to all reach out -- to me that's what we are at our best. captain america sent this to this kid, and he looked at it like he was living a dream. watch this. >> you're a hero. what you did was so brave, so selfless. your sister is so lucky to have you as a big brother.
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your parents must be so proud of you. i'm going to track down your address and i'm going to send you an an authentic captain amea shield because, pal, you're the best. we need people like you. >> he will never forget that and for all the right reasons. n now, evans, i'm not objective on. when i was sick he took the time to send me a video, and i'll tell you what it helped buoy my spirits and for appreciate him even more for something else he did for you. he's founder of a new nonpartisan political website and you have to hear about it. it's called a starting point. you go online and you'll see it. thank you very much for what you did for me, property, and thank you for what you did for all of us with the starting point. >> absolutely, man. it's an honor to send you a video. i'm a big fan. >> it meant a lot to me. i was very low, and what you did
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for that kid warmed my heart in a way that hasn't for a long time. >> it's an honor to shine a light on that little guy. what a hero. >> also at our best. you know, a kid, innocent, doing what they're supposed to do in the moment if they're at their best, and then guys like you with influence wefr will h how are people supposed to know what the hell is being thrown at them? the terms and the numbers and the phrases and this and the sound bites. you see this you want to research something yourself one day. there's too much information. you come up with starting point it was launched on july 14. how was this the answer to what you encountered? >> i don't know if it's the answer. it can help. the goal was to try and demystify the political landscape. people are curious about
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politics. like unsure where the way in is. it's a daunting environment and people turn off. we need participation. the only functioning democracy can operate is engagement. >> how does this work? >> there's three sections to it. first is starting point. common questions with answers from a spectrum of opinions. and daily points. the second section. 60 second videos on anything a politician wants to discuss. and the third section is counter points. a structured focussed debate between two elected officials around any way they choose. >> you ask them the questions and we're hoping they would answer earl will on you have the they thought it was a spoof. what is he doing asking questions. how do you get people to buy it. you started to get traction.
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what population do you have now and bipartisan? >> we have at least 170 elected officials. and bipartisan ship is strong. that was the challenge initially trying to get people who didn't know me. and didn't know the mechanism and trying to do to trust us. that was an uphill battle. it had a snowball effect. we say please tell everybody. and slowly but surely the list of contributors grew and grew. >> are you going to keep doing the interviews? what is your hope for the platform? >> yeah, absolutely. one of the main goals is being a self-funded organization is we want to be involved in the process. make sure the main tenants is be objective. and our concern is question what's the source and the agenda. to stay true to this objectivity and transparency. we have to stay involved and
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kind of guide the ship. >> i like that there's no likes, no dislikes no comments. it makes it different already. barriers to entry. first is a starting point as an acronym. the word. egyptian viper sp people are like i don't trust these people they'll lie. what do you say to the people who say i can't believe i can't trust. >> that doesn't change the fact they are in office. they have power. they are voting on policy that effects your life. to let distrust create disinterest will hurt you in the long run. i'm not going to say that government is everything you want it to be all the time. it's your civic duty to be engaged and without that participation is if you have a are emote control and you put one battery in it doesn't work a little bit.
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it doesn't work at all. a functioning democracy needs participation in order for an effective government to run. >> how do you check what the politicians put out in the videos? >> the first section is starting point is the one we do fact checking. second section is incumbent to be honest. the first section starting points is what we consider a political dictionary. and that information we have out source to a company. >> the other one will be personally. it's you. they'll say forget the whole actor thing doesn't work for me. you are as competent as you make yourself. make the case. you put in one of the answers to the question can there be issues downstream? yeah. you have to sell tickets and movies. in terms of how you want them to see your personal politics and
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do r don't fit in on the platform. what do you want them to know? >> my goal is objectivity. trying to provide information. to return politics to people. people are blood hounds now for being lied to by omission and shown one set of facts. if you trust people and say this is all the information. a spectrum of opinion. where do you lie. we bend towards goodness and we're living in a time of really unprecedented conjecture. the internet is responsible for proliferation of disinformation. anything to combat that and get information directly from the source and fair balanced way. everyone gets a bite at the apple. >> yor problem will be too handsome. you grew the beard. trying to hide the face. it doesn't work. you can't do my job looking like you. you're a beautiful guy. you did a nice thing for me. a much more important thing for
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the kid. and what you put together with the starting point is the exact kind of tool of populism. letting people fig you out things for themselves from the people in power. the perfect recipe. i'm glad you did it and using influence to promote it. you have a platform here to do that. >> thank you. >> the new site is online at a starting point.com. we'll be right back. but we're all going at our own speed. at enterprise, peace-of-mind starts with our complete clean pledge, curbside rentals and low-touch transactions. with so many vehicles of so many kinds, you can count on us to help you get everywhere you want to go... again. whenever you're ready, we're ready for you. enterprise.
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look at the time. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with the upgrade laura coates in for d. lemon. >> chris evans and chris cuomo in one night. i'm lucky. he seems like a really nice guy. what he's done is really important. i'll watch all the movies again now. i have a newfound appreciation. >> want to know the secret? >> tell me. >> just between us. no
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