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62. he took his jewish faith very seriously. his son's bar mitzvah just months before he passed was the happiest day of his life. may they rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news, the u.s. on the verge of 150,000 deaths, the president back to misleading americans about hydroxychloroquine and masks. what happened to the new tone, you know, about wearing a mask? plus a world renowned doctor known for his groundbreaking work on hiv and aids says there's one thing the united states can do right now to get this fixed. what is it? that doctor is "outfront." and even republicans don't want it. 1 and 3/4 fbi building in the coronavirus bill. does the trump hotel stand to gain? our report coming up. let's go "outfront." good evening.
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i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, closing in on 150,000 dead americans, 22 states seeing a rise in cases, florida reporting a record number of deaths all tonight. and president trump touting a false cure, questioning why no one likes him, and complaining that dr. fauci's approval ratings are high when his are not. just a short time ago president trump defending his tweet overnight which claims that hydroxychloroquine is a cure for coronavirus. >> i happen to think it works in the early stages. i think frontline medical people believe that too, some, many. and so we'll take a look at it. but the one thing we know, it's been out for a long time. it doesn't cause problems. i had no problem. i had absolutely no problem, felt no different. didn't feel good, bad, or indifferent, and i tested. as you know, it didn't get me. and it's not going to hopefully hurt anybody. >> here are the facts. multiple large scale studies have found the drug did not help
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patients with mild symptoms of coronavirus in the early stages of the disease. right, the early stages. one study in the journal of infectious disease finding the drug did not reduce the risk of hospitalization, another from university of medical school found it worked as a placebo. the fda has revoked authorization for hydroxychloroquine warning the drug's increased risk of side effects including heart problems. but the president just said it didn't get me, hopefully not anyone else. hopefully? i mean, it can hurt patients with heart problems and underlying medical conditions could be at risk. and the president went on. he went on to defend the controversial in the video he retweeted last night about hydroxychloroquine. >> i think they're very respected doctors. there was a woman that was spectacular in her statements about it. she's had tremendous success with it. and they took her voice -- i
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don't know why they took her off, but they took her off. maybe they had a good reason. maybe they didn't. i don't know. >> her name is stella and emanuel, and they, as in facebook and twitter, e are moved them because they were false. the president retweeting a person with a history of making ridiculous claims, like that dna from aliens is being used in medicine, that scientists are trying to create a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. and when kaitlan collins confronted the president with her past statements, the president abruptly turned around and left the briefing. >> i thought she was very impressive in the sense that where she came, i don't know which country she comes from. but she said that she's had tremendous success with hundred of different patients. and i thought her voice was an important voice, but i know nothing about her. >> last week, wolf -- >> thank you, very much everyone. >> he doesn't know much about
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her. the president of the united states should know he is retweeting period full stop, never mind if it's someone with a history of the things we just laid out there with reports about aliens or vaccines railroad religiosity. lives are at stake here. people listen to the president, and he apparently is listening to a person he says he knows nothing about instead of listening to the science and his own medical experts. by the way, i just went through the studies. that's just me listening to the studies. whoubt t how about the scientists on the frontline who have seen this and read it? they say this about hox line. >> the overwhelming prevailing clinical trials that have looked at the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine have indicated that it is not effective in coronavirus disease. >> okay. you heard it, right? so, when it comes to cures, let's leave that to the legitimate doctors and the
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researchers that are studying hydroxychloroquine and many other drugs. that is their job. that is their job of studies, not of the president of the united states to retweet some person and talking about coming out with a cure that is counterfactual to the science. he also then went on to say hydroxychloroquine because it's a cure, the president says,that you don't need to wear a mask. he said this, even though masks are the best defense we have. even though the president's own cdc director said masks could bring the virus under control. researchers from the university of washington found that if 95% of americans wore face masks the public, it could prevent 45,000 deaths by november. here's just a new video we have from a group of researchers in australia. special lighting. look at this. this is how far spit droplets travel in the air from someone talking, sneezing, and coughing. top left corner, how far you travel when you're not wearing a mask. as you add layers to the mask, you can barely see anything.
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to say the top left is don't worry about it, take a pill of hydroxychloroquine, that's insane. the fact is the president is putting tens of thousands of people's lives at risk by saying this sort of thing, by retweeting this. it is wrong and it's irresponsible. and it is it could be why the president is increase bli placing trust in dr. fauci more than president trump. 30% of americans trust trump on coronavirus, something that is taking head space for the president. >> for the most part, we've done pretty much what he and others, dr. birx and others who are terrific, recommended. and he's got this high approval rating. so, why don't i have a high approval rating sf. >> that speaks volumes. he cares about his approval rating compared to his top epidemiologist. remember this, dr. fauci throwing out the first pitch to kick off the unprecedented major league baseball season. trump is the only sitting president to not have thrown out
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a pitch since william taft, something that who cares, but he apparently does. suddenly when the fauci thing announces, trump announces he's throwing out the first pitch at yankee stadium. >> i've agreed, randall levine asked me to throw out the first pitch, and i think i'm doing that on august 15th at yankee stadium. >> well, that announcement caught his own staff by complete surprise. they knew nothing about an invite by the team. it turns out trump had not been invited by the yankees to appear on that day, the "times" reporting the president misleading the public on this area because he was frustrated about fauci getting the live pitch. this should be frustrating to anybody. whatever you think about president trump, his policies. he's facing a deadly virus and worried about being upstaged by an epidemiologist throwing out a
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baseball pitch. whatever you think of trump, this is unsettling at the least. i want to go to kaitlan "outfront" at the white house. we just saw your exchange with the president when you talked about the yesterdaybility of that video, laying out this person and other things they have claimed. he abruptly ended the news conference, turned around and walked out. >> reporter: he did. he didn't seem to want to answer more questions when he was confronted with the past statements this woman has made. he elevated his 84 million followers. twitter and facebook and youtube found the information she was trying to share, the misinformation, so concerning that they've removed it as they've been trying to navigate how to police content during the age of a pandemic. the president went from defending her to then when he was asked about her claims saying he doesn't know anything about her. i think that's the question some of his own aides have is why promote the post of someone
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contradicting what your officials are saying if you don't know who they are. what she was saying in this video even contradicts something the president said last week which he vigorously endorsed wearing a mask, wore a mask for the first time in public. she's saying masks don't work. the president saying last week masks do work. he's contradicting not just his own health officials but what he's telling people and putting confusing information out there. the president defended sharing the post initially and dechded the retweets coming last night saying dr. fauci was a fraud and the other saying he was misleading the public. the president saying he was reading those but asking why is dr. anthony fauci more popular than me given we are both in the same administration. and i think that speaks for itself when you see the poll among voters about who they trust more to give them information about the pandemic. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. i want to go now to dr. jonathan reiner, director of cardiac cath lab at g.w. who advised the
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white house under george w. bush, the medical team, and dr. ashish jha, our national testing expert at this point. dr. reiner, the president couldn't defend the person identified as a doctor in the video. she claimed people shouldn't wear masks because hydroxychloroquine is a cure. he went on to talk about the reasons why he thinks it's fine and didn't get him, hopefully won't get anybody else. and then kaitlan, when she pressed him about it, he walked out. he said, i happen to think it works in the early stages. many doctors think it's good. you're a doctor. talk to doctors every day. what do you say? >> well, let's start with the science first. we know i think unequivocally that patients with covid-19, sadly hydroxychloroquine doesn't work. i would love it to work. everyone would love something like that to work. it doesn't work. there have been three scale randomized trial, cover trial,
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solidarity trial, and organization trial. all three trials stopped. the drug doesn't work. the fact that the president continues to parrot this nonsense is really destructive because patients will start asking for this. but i'm starting to worry about the president's mental status. his behavior at these pressers is becoming increasingly i radic. i'm really worried about this. we're in a crisis now. and last week this president spent quite a bit of time talking about his performance on cognitive tests. today he's parroting this really debunked science. and then he's complaining about whether one of his science advisers has a higher public approval rating. this is really strange behavior. and we're in a crisis now. if we had a pilot on your airplane who started to lose it during a storm, you would hope that the flight crew would take over. we're approaching that level of concern here.
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>> dr. jha, do you share that concern? you have the president saying i don't care basically what studies you put out there, what facts you put out there, what dr. fauci puts out there because they're all consistent on hydroxychloroquine in early stages. he says anyone who doesn't listen to me is just doing it because they don't like me. >> dr. reiner is completely right about this. look, we are in the middle of the worst pandemic in a century. this is really hard under good circumstances with clear leadership. if there's any way we are going to get through this without hundred of thousands of americans dying, i guess additional hundreds of thousands beyond the 150 already lost, it is going to be driven by science and the scientific method and scientific approach. things like who's got a higher approval, which doctor you like or don't like is irrelevant. what's relevant is what is the science telling us, what's the data telling us?
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if we use that, we have a shot getting through this. i can't believe we spend this much time because we get distracted by retweets by the president focused on this. i don't think the president is being helpful here. >> the president today retweeted someone questioning fauci's credibility, and i want to play some of what fauci said when he was asked to respond to someone saying fauci was a fraud. here's fauci's response. >> i just will continue to do my job no matter what comes out because i think it's very important. we're in the middle of a crisis with regard to an epidemic, ai pandemic. this is what i do. this is what i've been trained for my entire professional life, and i'll continue to do it. >> to the charge you've been misleading the american public. >> i have not been misleading the american public under any circumstances. >> that's a kind of -- you know, just a horrible moment. you have the guy the president puts in charge of it having to respond to the president saying that he's misleading the american public.
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that's what the president retweeted. he just respond to that to george stephanopoulos on national television. >> god bless tony fauci. if you watch the presser today, it's really easy to understand why the president can't have tau tony fauci or dr. debra birx there because the physicians would fact check and refute the president. what does that mean? that means the president can't have truth tellers at his press briefings. what more needs to be said about the status of this administration right now? tony fauci is a patriot. he has spent his entire life trying to cure the most dreaded diseases that aflict humankind. he needs our support. and when you look at the polls,
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most of the public really feel that way about him. we need to get behind him. we need to get behind people who tell a truth. there is a path forward. people like dr. jha point the way forward every single day. this is all non-sense. >> dr. jha, what does dr. fauci do at this point? he's not going to spend his time defending his credibility against accusations by his boss. >> so, i think first of all it's very painful to hear dr. fauci even have to address this. i think he keeps doing what he does, what he's done his entire career, speak truth, talk about science, and look out for the well-being of the american people. i agree, god bless dr. fauci for his work. >> i appreciate seeing you both. thank you. next major league baseball on hold as more marlins team members test positive for coronavirus. is the season over? plus a pioneer in hiv research is going to tell me the
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tonight major league baseball suspending all miami marlins games after at least 17 personnel test positive for coronavirus, as florida hits a grim record of deaths today. nick watt is "outfront." >> reporter: florida governor ron desantis is a glass half full kind of guy, today touting -- >> positive development over the last few months which is generating improved outcomes and patient recoveries. >> reporter: okay, but today there were 9,210 new coronavirus cases reported in the case, 11 times the number reported the day florida began to reopen. today also, the state's highest daily death toll to date. >> when you see those reports, those are probably reflective of infections and hospitalizations that have happened in the past. so, it's just more of a lagging indicator.
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>> reporter: meanwhile, the city of miami now offering free tests for kids. across the state, cases for children and teens have climbed. >> we've got to get the virus down. we've got to get our contact tracing in place. we've learned we didn't have enough people at all to sort of even call people up and say you need to quarantine, who else were you with. >> reporter: along with that sun belt surge, concern moving north, average daily case counts now higher. along with that sun belt surge, concern moving a little bit north, average daily case counts higher than ever in arkansas, missouri, tennessee, and oklahoma where despite this plea by dr. deborah birx -- >> stop going to the bars. >> reporter: the governor won't. unmasked concert goers in colorado, a drive in chain spokers gig but people got out
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of their cars and mingled unmasked. videos like this sparked investigation. >> it was a gross violation of common sense. >> reporter: new jersey cops say they spent hours breaking up a 700-strong mansion party at an airbnb rental. >> you're looking for trouble. you're absolutely looking for trouble. >> reporter: meanwhile four more miami marlins testing positive. all their games postponed. the yankees/phillies series also postponed. >> a team losing a number of players that rendered it completely non-competitive would be an issue that we would have to address, whether that was shutting down a part of the season, the whole season. >> nick, got a call from the nation's governors, vice president pence talking about going to school. vermont saying it's all in person, philly saying it's all online. the vice president wants it all in person. he's citing, quote, encouraging
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trends in the sun belt states despite what you're reporting on. >> reporter: we're all looking for trends, but maybe the case count has flattened slightly. it's flat but it's very high. it's still averaging over 10,000 new cases a day. if you want encouraging trends, look to vermont. today, that state reported three new cases. nobody has died of covid-19 in vermont for nearly six weeks and yet today, the governor pushed back the opening of schools by two weeks. they're going to open now september 8th, erin. >> they're going to open which is more than you can say for districts now around this country, including where you are and probably where i am. thank you very much, nick. and next a cnn exclusive, russia claims it's a sputnik moment. they say they are about to approve a coronavirus vaccine in two weeks, in weeks. is it safe? plus joe biden says he'll choose his vp pick next week.
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claiming a, quote, sputnik moment. officials there say they intend to approve a coronavirus vaccine in less than two weeks. and that means not just in trials, right? this means approve, people getting the shot. they say they're going the inject frontline health care workers first and then potentially millions of citizens. this is just two weeks away, right? so, this is either a complete and utter game changer or something quite scary. "outfront" now, preimminent researcher on hiv and aids. i appreciate your time as always. so, the story from russia, they're going to be approving this in the next couple of weeks, giving it as an injection into frontline health care workers. they have not put out any scientific data to back up why they're doing this. what's your reaction to this? >> it's unwise. it's actually the second vaccine in the world that has been
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approved for wide scale use. the first was by the chinese a couple of weeks ago for their military and civil servant who is requested it. they cannot know it's effective and they cannot know how safe it is. so, they're taking a risk with their people. they had said a couple weeks ago that they were taking a risk with some of their high officials and top businessmen, but those people were taking at their own risk as are the people now in china -- and in russia. >> now they're saying they're going to be giving to doctors on the frontlines. i think it's safe to say it would be much worse to have a vaccine that isn't safe than to wait a little longer on one that is. i've got ask you as this happens, doctor, we hear countries all the time that broke the curve and we show the u.s. curve going up and all these curves going down. we are seeing major outbreaks in countries that really had this under control, australia, hong
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kong, japan. you see the curves go down and then surge in the summer. so, it's the spring where you see it come down and then the summer surge. hong kong, over 100 cases for six days running. they were basically free of the virus it appeared. and now even germany seeing what they call a very disturbing rise in cases. 60% increase last week, albeit from low levels. is this a warning of what may lie ahead, that this is just going to be a curve that goes up and down? >> i think it's worrying for those countries, and you should add israel to that list because it exceeds all of them in, i would say, its bounceback. what it tells us is something we knew. we were at a high plateau. we opened up, now it's 60,000 cases a day more or less. if we continue this way, it may go up to 120,000 cases a day. if you are not careful and you do not observe the recommended
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rules which is wearing face masks, avoiding crowds, not going to bars, don't do intense socializing, this virus will continue. you have to remember, erin, that it started with one person and all of these infections started in our cities and our countries, very small numbers of people. and then it spread. and this virus will do that if we're not constantly vigilant until we have some other ways to control it. hopefully a vaccine or hopefully prophylactic drugs. >> it's a simple thing you just said but a powerful one if people realize. it did start with one person and here we are. people think it can't spread more, of course it can. it was a simple thing you said but a very powerful one. you have an op-ed in "forbes" arguing that a game changer, your world, for getting a handle on the coronavirus around the united states and around the world is through rapid testing.
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explain it and why it's a game changer. >> there are two ways to tell whether a person is infected. the most sensitive way is through pcr. but we approved another way which is to measure the viral protein, not the rna. now, it's not as sensitive and it doesn't detect all people. but the indians have come up with a solution to that. they're used to dealing with not the best technologies in dealing with problems. they've decided to screen everybody with the antigen test. that catches about half of the people. the other half they say they may be infected. they give them the pcr test, but the first half they get is within 30 minutes and they have them in their hands and they can begin to control half of the infection immediately. we can do the same thing here. that test is approved. we should have a tier, two-tiered testing system, one to catch half the people or more because some of the people say
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it's 80% effective, catch them right away, put them in control. we know and we can stop those infections right away. and we can reduce what's happening very quickly. so, i would recommend a very quick rethink in how we do our testing. >> it would be incredible if we could. to your point, it's not 100% but even getting half right now when you're getting and we have these 7 or 8-wait day periods is obviously toxic. i thank you very much as always dr. hassle teen. next attorney general bill barr pressed on why he didn't use federal officers threatening michigan democratic governor. >> are you aware that these protesters called for the governor to be lynched, shot and beheaded? >> no. >> and republicans claim unemployment benefits are standing in the way of people getting back to work because they're paid more to stay at home. it makes a lot of sense, but there are some eye opening new
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nearly five-hour long hearing on capitol hill denying racism exists in law enforcement. >> does the trump administration seek to extend racism in law enforcement? i just need a yes or no answer? >> obviously this administration will fully enforce -- >> so, you agree that there is systemic racism. >> where? >> let me continue my line of questioning. >> i don't agree that there's systemic racism in the police department. >> specifically -- >> generally in this country. >> "outfront" now democratic congresswoman val demings of florida. you were in that hearing for its entirety today congresswoman. as a former police chief yourself, you have been on the frontlines of this. when you hear attorney general bill barr say he doesn't think
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racism exists in police departments, what do you think? >> it is great to be with you. it should not have been so exhausting considering we have the nation's top cop in front of us and as you know we're facing critical issues in this country. systemic racism is one of them. i spent 27 years at the orlando police department served as the chief of police. yes, systemic racism exists within police departments but it exists in all of our systems. and i really wish the attorney general would have reassured america that as the attorney general t of the united states that he is going to put the full weight of the department of justice behind fighting and combatting and getting rid of racism. we did not hear that today. >> certainly not in that exchange or any of the others. another exchange was with your colleague congresswoman apolopa.
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she was asking why the president has the federal agents ready to go outside seattle and portland, why that was not use whd right ling protesters were threatening governor gretchen whitmer with lynching and other things. here it is. >> are you aware these protesters called for the governor to be lynched, shot and beheaded? >> no. >> when white men with swastikas storm a government building with guns, there is no need for the president to, quote, activate you because they're getting the president's personal agenda done. but when black people and people of color protest police brutality, systemic racism and the president's very own lack of response to those critical issues, then you forcibly remove them with armed federal officers. >> what was your response when you heard that exchange, that he wasn't aware of that? >> well, i thought it was sad,
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and i don't believe him. i think my colleague asked them the right question. but clearly this president has demonstrated, even as a candidate, that he clearly sees white americans and black and brown americans in a different way. he's demonstrated that. and so quite frankly, his attorney general who has really acted more like his personal attorney or his enabler, his fixer, certainly has no interest, unfortunately, of white guys with guns in michigan visibly threatening the governor but is clearly interested in, i guess, motivating his base by using violence against peaceful protesters. and it's a shame, but i really was not surprised at this attorney general's response today, particularly under this president of the united states. we know clearly who donald trump
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is. >> so, congresswoman, today joe biden says he's going to choose his vice president the first week of august. just for anyone who's lost track of time, which is a heck of a lot of people in this country right now, that is next week. we've spoke to several people in mr. biden's team, you have been a leading candidate. in this environment we're in now, police clashing with protesters, debates with federal troops, do you think your background, 27 years in law enforcement, as a police chief helps or hurts you? >> well, erin, let me say this, i spent 27 years at the police department. the daughter of a maid and a janitor who grew up in the south and the honor of serving as orlando's chief of police. chiefs of police are problem solvers. we're crisis managers. and my goodness, that's exactly what we have in the united states of america right now is a crisis. i am proud of my former career,
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and i do believe it serves me well whether i'm chosen to run alongside joe biden or i remain in congress i am going to continue to bring my experience, knowledge and skills as a crisis manager and a problem solver to the table to help solve some of america's toughest issues. >> congresswoman, we actually had your husband on not long ago. he was talking about policing in america. he's also former police chief in orlando. i asked him if you would be the right pick for vp. he said what he really thought. >> no question i think she would be the right pick. as the mother of three sons, i believe she gets it. she's a daughter of the south. she grew up in jacksonville, florida, to parents who were just average blue collar, workers. but she's had this experience now to experience the american dream and i believe she's
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perfectly prepared to be a good running mate with joe biden if he selects her. >> i know it's nice to hear that. that's in his heart, what he thinks. have you had any indication that you could be announced or where this process is right now for joe biden? >> well, erin, i really can't comment on the process, but what i do know is this, that we have some serious challenges in this country and i believe every woman who has been rumored to be on that list would serve our country well, public servants who love america. and i look forward to the announcement. i look forward to getting back to work. and i look forward to helping to elect joe biden the next president of the united states. we desperately need him. >> congresswoman demings, i really appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. take care. >> you too. next republicans say people are getting paid more from unemployment to stay home so
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after shopping around for insurance, they called usaa - who helped find the right coverage for them and even some much-needed savings. that was the easy part. usaa insurance is made the way liz and mike need it- easy. tonight republicans doubling down on cutting the extra $600 unemployment benefit. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell saying flat out they don't want people making more on unemployment than at work. >> the goal is to eliminate the prospect that one could make more not working than working. we think it is not appropriate to reward someone, in effect, for staying at home. >> "outfront" now, a former treasury department economist during the obama administration, now managing director at
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investment banking advisory firm. you went through the numbers and what they're saying on the face of it, it would make sense if someone pays you more to do something that you would take the more rather than the less. you found that extra $600 has not discouraged unemployed looked at the likelihood that workers in april and may either found a job or left the job and i associated that with the generosity of their unemployment insurance before hand, and what i found was that the generosity of unemployment insurance had no relationship in april or may with the likelihood that workers either found a job the next month or left a job the next month. there were workers who had very generous benefits who left unemployment insurance and took a job. there were workers who had generous unemployment insurance
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and stayed on unemployment insurance. there was no pattern in the data. what we do know is that of the workers who left unemployment insurance in april and may for a job the next month, 70% of them were making more on unemployment insurance than they were in their prior jobs, and yet, they still transitioned out of unemployment insurance and took a job. that suggestions to me right now in the american economy, this emergency unemployment insurance is just not a drag on the labor market. >> okay. so it's pretty interesting because when you say look, it's not what a lot of people expect to hear, again, because i wouldn't call anybody free loading doing this, it's just very simple if somebody pays you more to do something, you would pick the more. so you're showing me the data. you know, some of the people we've talked to, kyung law has done a lot of reporting on this, and there is some of this other part of the story. this is some of what she found. >> they don't want to come out
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because the price isn't right. >> how does unemployment fit into that piece? >> people would rather get unemployment money. >> the money people are making quite honestly is more than we were paying them before. >> do you tefeel like you're competing with unemployment? >> no question. i don't blame them but we do need workers to come back eventually. >> so what do you say to that? you're saying the data doesn't back that on a large scale? >> right, so the data doesn't say that there are no instances of workers forgoing a job because of generous unemployment insurance. there is no consistent relationship for every worker that you have that's pasting over a job because of again lose unemployment insurance, there are workers who are taking jobs despite generous unemployment insurance, and there is just no way to parse out in the data what the effective generous u.i. is right now. >> i really appreciate your
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tonight, president trump demanding $1.75 billion for the coronavirus relief package. why? could it be because of it being near the trump hotel? >> reporter: $1.75 billion, that is how much the white house wants to replace the fbi building with a shiny new state of the art center complete with topnotch security, a running track on the roof and all good for 100 years. that according to the president who has spoken of his pet project many times. >> this one is very old, and it's really never built to a
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very high standarded as you probably have heard. >> reporter: but hold on, team trump wants that money as part of the new coronavirus stimulus package part of congress where some could go for testing, hospitals, schools, struggling businesses and employees, even some of the president's staunchest allies are resisting the request. >> when we get to the end of the process, i would hope the non-covid related measures are out. >> reporter: senator lindsey graham said i don't know why it in there, either but trump's foes have an idea. >> they have money for food stamps but have money for an fbi building to diminish competition for the president's hotel. >> reporter: that last part is a corner stone of democratic concern. the fbi building is just a block away from the trump hotel. a 263-room luxury facility that the family had been trying to sell. if the fbi headquarters moved to the suburbs as planned for trump took office, the democratic theory holds that prime real
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estate could open up for a competitor. >> members of the president's staff before he was no politics, staffing his business were concerned about a hotel replacing the current hoover building on that site because you don't want a competing luxury hotel from the street from you if you don't have to have one. >> reporter: whenever the reason including a construction money in a virus response bill is problematic spurring push back despite what the president has said. >> the fbi needs a new building. we'll get it done. >> reporter: most people in power would agree with the white house's assessment that the fbi headquarters is old and crumbling and out of date and desperately in need of replacement but they have known that for years, which makes this sudden push to write a check in the middle of a national health crisis all the more puzzling. erin? >> tom, thank you very much. thanks very much to all of you for joining us. watch "outfront" any time, any
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time and anderson cooper 360 starts right now. i'll going to say this up front. the president of the united states is promoting disproven and potentially harmful medical treatments for covid-19. it's not new but in vent days there is talk among the president's reporters he was finally getting it, encouraging mask wearing but of course, once again he's being incredibly dangerously irresponsible and takes no responsibility and doesn't care if it harms anyone. yes, the president can occasionally read remarks written by someone else on a tell prompter that makes him sound responsible which he did again this evening but 149,000 americans are dead, which this self-proclaimed wartime president again did not mention in his prepared remarks he was reading off the paper. and like a snake oil salesman, he's promoting disproven medical treatments. it is unconscionable. whose med kaical advice is the president of the united states promoting? it's not dr. fauci. not dr.
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