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i'm going to say this up front. the president of the united states is promoting disproven and potentially harmful medical treatments for covid-19.
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it's not new but in vent days there is talk among the president's reporters he was finally getting it, encouraging mask wearing but of course, once again he's being incredibly dangerously irresponsible and takes no responsibility and doesn't care if it harms anyone. yes, the president can occasionally read remarks written by someone else on a tell prompter that makes him sound responsible which he did again this evening but 149,000 americans are dead, which this self-proclaimed wartime president again did not mention in his prepared remarks he was reading off the paper. and like a snake oil salesman, he's promoting disproven medical treatments. it is unconscionable. whose medical advice is the president of the united states promoting? it's not dr. fauci. not dr. birx, in the dr. redfield from the cdc or surgeon general begging people to wear masks. no, the president is promoting a doctor whose viral video has been very popular suddenly among conspiracy theorists and covid deniers.
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she's a doctor in houston that believes women can be i'm pregnanted by witches in their dreams. >> it's what we call astral sex. that means this person is not a demon but a human being that's a witch and they sleep with people. >> that's dr. stella immanuel who has a minister and promises on her youtube page deliverance from spirit husbands and wives. last night the president retweeted this video to his 84 million followers from a press conference she and a group of doctors did yesterday at the capitol. >> i came here to washington d.c. to tell america nobody needs to get sick. this virus has a cure. it is called hydroxychloroquine,
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zinc and zythromax. you don't need people to be locked down. there is prevention and doctor is a cure. >> keeping them honest just medically, that simply is not true. the new england journal of medicine that is a reputable medical journal was done on 504 patients and showed no benefit and revealed heart rhythm complications that could be deadly. other studies agree and the fda revoked the emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine. the fda has done that. president trump's fda. and chloroquine for the treatment of covid-19. one study which differs and often cited by the president has come at a criticism for being lower quality but in truth, with tens of thousands of lives on the line not to mention the distraction for the public health system, the war-time president, so-called war-time president's authority seems to be this person and himself and that's not our assessment, it by
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his own admission. >> as you know, i took it for a 14-day period, and i'm here. right? i'm here. it doesn't cause problems. i had no problem. i had absolutely no problem, and i tested, as you know, it didn't get me and it's not going to hopefully hurt anybody. >> yeah, let's hope, hopefully it won't hurt anybody. you know the personal pronounce, i had, i took it, it didn't get me. 504 patients in 55 hospitals versus a sample of one who boasted today quote i've read a lot about hydoxy. hydoxy and said this back in early march. >> i really get it. people are surprised that i understand. every one of these doctors say how do you know so much about this?
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maybe i have a natural ability. maybe i should have done that instead of running for president. >> nearly 149,000 dead americans since he said that and the president is still by his own lights the smartest guy in the room. the bravest war-time president despite having led an effort that made this country the object of pity and mockery and laughter in the rest of the world. a pariah whose citizens can't travel to most places on earth because of wartime president's statements and actions but because every wartime president needs a surgeon general, here is the candidate the president of the united states retweeted last night. >> she was sitting right there. she had been fanaticizing about a movie star. when she came to deliverance ground she started screaming. her stomach was full pregnant. she was tearing off her clothes screaming and screaming like she was in labor and she said this thing came out of me. her stomach deflated, real life. >> that makes you miss chuck
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woolery, doesn't it? this dr. immanuel believes that lusting after movie stars can i'm pregnant women in their dreams by demon babies. the leader of the free world overseeing the response to a pandemic retweeting her claims about a disproven drug therapy and praising her for agreeing with his non-scientific gut belief and took a moment to say this about the leading expert on the subject. >> so, you know, it's interesting, he's got a very good approval rating and i like that. so why don't i have a high approval rating with respect and administration with respect to the virus. so it sort of is curious a man works for us, with us, very closely, dr. fauci and dr. birx also highly thought of, and yet, they're highly thought of but nobody likes me. it can only be my personality. >> only my personality.
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certainly not dr. fauci's actual knowledge and training. his expertise and humility and the fact he's not lying every day all the time, and maybe it's decades of, you know, service as a public servant when he could have been making millions of dollars in the private sector. only the war-time president's personality because as any biologist will tell down to a deadly virus it's about personality. why trust him when you can instead trust the person that speaks about things on youtube and quoting, i double dog dare y'all give me a urine sample. cnn's kaitlan collins called the president on the support of this person and pressed him on it until he fled the briefing room. >> mr. president, the woman you said is a great doctor that said masks don't work and there is a cure for covid-19, both of which
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health experts say is not true. she's made videos saying doctors make medicine using dna from aliens and that they are trying to create a vaccine to make you immune from becoming religious. >> i can tell you this, she was on air a long with many other doctors. they were big fans of hydroxychloroquine and i thought she was very impressive in the sense that from where she came -- i don't know which country she comes from, but she said she's had tremendous success with hundreds of different patients, and i thought her voice was an important voice but i know nothing about her. >> last week -- >> thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> he went out of the room. too many questions. not questions i wanted. i'm going to leave. that was that. no more questions.
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speaking of chuck woolaey, almost 13,000 lost american lives ago with 136,000 americans dead, he retweeted a game host when it comes to covid-19 everyone is lying and what were the former game host medical qualifications to backup the warning and not trust the experts? he sells ointment. >> chuck woolry here with a bit of a confession. i have a new favorite emu oil. there is only one blue emu. it works fast and you won't stink. >> you won't stink. tired of that old emu oil. glad we have new emu oil. since then the ointment salesman son contracted covid and he deactivated his twitter account. with the death toll up past 150,000, the president of the united states is back at it even though he admitted this past weekend retweeting has not been good for him. >> you know what i find? it not the tweets, it's the retweets that get you in trouble. >> with all due respect to the office, no, mr. president, they
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get the people you serve in trouble and cost some of them their lives. let's get perspective from our chief political analyst gloria borger and dr. peter hotez dean of the national school of tropical medicine at baylor. gloria, i can't be any clearer and we learned this lesson over and over but can't be any clearer president trump is capable of being anything he is promoting conspiracy theories, focussing on himself, his biggest anger at fauci is fauci -- he continually talks about fauci's popularity rating. i don't think anthony fauci cares about his queue score and popularity rating. those are the only numbers this president cares about, not 150,000 dead americans. >> right. i don't be any clearer, anderson. this is a president in deep political trouble whose team said to him, you've got to start taking charge. you've got to change your tune.
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you've got to do short briefings. you've got to show that you really understand the science, and that you care about 150,000 americans who have passed away. instead, the president goes to the podium and starts spouting this drivel and can't seem to get out of his own way here. it is almost as if, anderson, the problem is so complex that he can't grab hold of it and instead, what he grabs hold of are conspiracy theories, which are easier to grab hold of because you can explain the inexplicable and say ah-ha that person is right and therefore, i am right because i believe the same thing, and that's how i'm going to get myself out of this mess, which is by keep talking about this stuff. except at this point, it's clear, look at the polls, the public is not buying it. >> dr. hotez, it's -- i'm just
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stunned yet again and just really just sad that we are in this position where all of us are, you know, every day facing this disease, this virus and the person in charge, you know, is promoting, you know, a person who is, you know, believes all sorts of things about demon babies and alien dna and i mean, it would be laughable if it wasn't actually incredibly serious. this is not just donald trump real estate guy promoting, you know, somebody who is promoting a lot of strange ideas and but it's not. it's the president of the united states. let's just go, we've done this many times before but hydroxychloroquine, i mean, multiple studies on it including the fda, the national institute of health not only show it isn't effective in treating the virus, it could be harmful in some cases.
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correct? medically speaking, rationally speaking? >> yeah, i mean, absolutely, anderson. we've had three studies just published in the new england journal of medicine both as a treatment and as profoe lax sis and shows it increases your risk of heart disease and causes electric disturbances in the heart. this is bad drug for covid-19. the issue is not just the president but the white house will not get their arms around this epidemic and create a national plan and we're descending into chaos. we have 20% of the world's cases of covid-19 in the southern united states. debra birx, dr. birx said the virus is traveling up into tennessee and the midwest and into ohio and indiana and that may reproduce what we have in the southern united states,
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which is probably the third worst epidemic just the southern u.s., third worst epidemic in globally. we've got teachers who are scared and now threatening to go on strike because they know their being placed in harm's way by being forced to go into schools in the middle of communities where there is lots of raging covid-19. the major league baseball season may be unraveling. nothing is going well and this has become a full fledged homeland security threat as we descend into chaos and the question is what puts the brakes on this and what prompts the reset and, you know, i'm of the opinion we have to take this out of the white house. there is no productive work getting done there. it's hydroxychloroquine and chinese communist party conspiracy theories and deflecting to the world health organization. every excuse on the planet except to implement a national plan and a national reset. i've put a plan out there this
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week that says we can do this not pretty easily by october 1, others have said we got to do it. >> gloria, what is the political benefit to the president? is it simply just, you know, a little head nod to his non-followers to conspiracy theorist followers to the far reaches of his base, the fringe reaches of his base? >> maybe. >> that, you know, he retweets this so it keeps stirring the idea and keeps the anger out there? >> maybe. maybe in someway he's trying to solidify his base because we see in the polls that the numbers in the base are declining to a certain degree and maybe that worries him but maybe he just can't help himself, anderson. this is a president -- you know, i keep thinking back to a moment in helsinki, the president being informed that the russians were trying to meddle in the election, had meddled in the
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2016 election. he's standing next to vladimir putin. putin says don't be ridiculous. what does the president do? he tells the world i have no reason not to believe putin. he will say what he wants to say and he will believe what he wants to believe and at this point, he can't admit that he made any mistakes during this virus and so since he can't admit he made any mistakes, he has to -- he has to grab on to something and what he grabs on to is absurd and the public is not buying it. >> gloria borger, dr. hotez appreciate it. later, rare congressional testimony from attorney general barr. we'll talk to one congresswoman that questioned him about his accountability in a moment. we'll be right back.
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the president continuing support for disproven covid treatments and the characters promoting them and the remarks he reads at briefings, the core believes have not changed. i don't know if they are his believes but the core things he's promoting. he believes in phony bologna covid cures and governors to take steps that could be harmful especially now. >> i really do believe a lot of governors should be opening up states they aren't opening and we'll see what happens with them. a lot will have to do with the fact you can have great answers. >> one governor, larry hogan is taking issue with the claim states have gotten everything they need from the federal government. governor hogan wrote about fighting at it alone, why doesn't trump help my state with coronavirus testing? he's written a book surviving cancer, riots and the toxic that divides america and joins us tonight.
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toxic politics worse than ever certainly in our lifetime. governor hogan, the president repeated the false claims about hydroxychloroquine this afternoon, you know, defended retweeting a video espousing all kinds of falsehoods about the virus. when the president -- do you understand just politically why he's doing this? i mean, is it just who he is? is there -- does it help him among some like of his qanon followers? is it just to rile the fringes of his base up? >> you know, anderson, i'm not
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sure i'm qualified to opine on what goes through the president's head about why he decides to say the things he says. i'm not sure there is a logical explanation. we had a call with the white house led by the vice president and we had dr. birx and dr. fauci and dr. haun from the fda and the whole coronavirus task force. it's a productive meeting talking about concerns about the spiking virus and the federal government was putting out advice for states that had to start shutting down things and talking about 21 states that were hot zones and where we had to be cautious and then the president says just the opposite. i thought he was starting to get back on track with a better message in the past week or so when he started to say that the virus has potential to get much worse for the first time, and when he was wearing a mask and tweeting out that wearing a mask is patriotic and i thought we were turning a corner. he had prepared remarks and was doing okay and then, you know, he went off to the same kinds of things and it one of the concerns i've had and i can't explain it. i don't think it helpful.
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but, you know, the rest of the team is kind of on one message and then the president says sometimes almost the complete opposite. >> since you're -- messaging aside in terms of stuff actually getting done, you have this, you know, relatively productive or productive meeting, you know, on the phone with the task force and it feels like okay, things are moving the right direction. the president says does it matter what the president says? i mean, is it -- is the work being done off to the side and whatever he's saying about, you know, i mean, i know they spent a lot of money stockpiling hydroxychloroquine, but does it matter? >> i think it matters, of course, it does. i don't want to take away from the good work that is. there are some things that are happening and i always give credit to the folks in the administration that are getting
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good things done and the vice president is serious and focused and there are smart doctors and scientists that are getting things done in important agencies. but i don't think the president is listening to those folks all the time, and i just think they're concerned, i would imagine, sometimes they will have a productive meeting. it happened just a short while ago when the cdc put out great guidelines on the schools and later that afternoon, the president said he was demanding that everybody immediately open the schools. you know, today it was about telling states they needed to be cautious and some states had to start shutting down. the president said we got to open everybody up and then he started talking about hydroxychloroquine and a few other things that were way off message. i can't explain it. i don't think it helps with the base. you know, his problem right now is not his hard core base that are going to vote for him no
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matter what, his problem is he's not reaching anyone else and that's why he's in trouble politically. he's not reaching those folks that are undecided. >> i want to ask you about your state and how you're doing on testing. >> so we've ramped up testing dramatically in our state. this has been a problem without a national testing strategy, which i think was one of the mistakes they made early on. we've ramped up considerably. we're 400% more testing than 30 days ago which is one of the reasons why we're starting to see a slight uptick in the number of cases, but our positivity rate continues to trend in the right direction. i'll tell you what, our state labs, were able to turn things around in 24 to 48 hours but we're seeing slow results from the national private labs because they are backed up on some of these overwhelming cases from other states and it's taking up to ten days that makes the results almost worthless because by the time you identify those cases, it's too late and they spread. >> it makes the test meaningless because who knows who you spread it to by then. appreciate your time tonight. thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. >> more breaking news ahead, new schedule changes due to covid outbreak in major league baseball and several nfl made
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two stars for the new england patriots, dont'a hightower who is concerned about the health of his newborn son and mother with type 2 diabetes, his teammate patrick chung is opting out and tonight the association is delaying the start of training camp. there were 107 players that tested positive during the off season. joining me is former standout nfl player and currently a neuro surgery resident in massachusetts general hospital. thanks for being with us. you played in the nfl now. you're in your third year as a neuro surgery resident fighting coronavirus on the front lines. is it safe to return to professional sports while the cases are spreading? >> thanks for having me, anderson. i do not think it's safe to return right now. the nfl is part of fabric of the country. they've tried for a long time to permeate itself into the community by advancing domestic violence awareness, breast cancer awareness and when i
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played, it would have us go to schools and boys and girls clubs to talk about education and i went to england to get the american culture into another continent. if the nfl wants to be part of the community, i think it needs to be responsible and think about what is actually happening in the community right now, a pandemic happening and infection rates going up and hospitalizations occurring, ppe at a high demand. if that's the case, then be a leader at the forefront and put the players' safety and their families' safety as a premium. >> so what do you think would need to happen for football, other sports to come back? >> well, i think that the pandemic needs to slow down. at mass general hospital, we did a really good job being proactive with our decision making. i think we have maybe five confirmed covid-19 patients in the icu, maybe 40 at risk. the numbers have gone done in boston. a too primed approach with a great medical personnel doing its job and behavior lifestyle modifications working hard, that
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has worked but when you have states that are hot bed and players coming from these places, i think it's very difficult to sort of say i want to social distance in a sport that's inherently close. need to be cohesive in the locker room and in the muddle and walk-throughs close together. it's very difficult. i think the nfl should delay the sport or cancel it this year to allow the wonderful women and men on the front lines to really get ahead of this pandemic and make it safe for everyone to come back to the sport. >> is -- i mean, looking at the nfl, it's a high contact sport, much more so than baseball which is being hit by a number of cases. baseball teams can't keep players' safe, you look at football, basketball teams where there is much more interaction certainly on the court. >> yeah. absolutely. you know, you have a sport where you just cannot distance yourself, right? it's actually encouraged to be physical. it's encouraged to have hand fighting at the line of scrimmage to tackle a player and
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as a football player, if you're thinking about trying to keep yourself safe in the midst of a game that inches matter, one step too slow, one step too late. that the a touchdown. that's a win versus a loss. those players have a lot of pressure on them already and add on the extra burden of thinking they will be safe and transmit this virus back to the families and loved ones as you mentioned a lot of players on the out from the new england patriots and other places around the league, it's very unfair to the players. i think the nfl should really stand up as a leader and say you know what? let's pause and put the brakes on. i know you want to experiment with advanced testing but right now, i think it probably not the wisest thing to do. >> you talked to service members who have been in a combat zone overseas and then come back home and find that, you know, it's a hard adjustment because much of
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the rest of the population isn't directly impacted by what's happening in afghanistan or what was happening in iraq when u.s. forces were serving there. i'm wondering as a doctor on the front lines, is it strange to, you know, be in the midst of this every day at work and then leave the hospital setting and find, you know, people griping about wearing a mask or refusing to wear a mask because they, you know, they just don't want to do it? >> well, you know, anderson, i went to mass general hospital as a neuro surgery resident to do brain tumors and fix spines and reanimate nerves. when covid-19 came and the chairman bob carter said let redisbutte you guys to different parts of the hospital and be basically foot soldiers for the emergency room doctors who will really at the front lines, i and my colleagues said yes, let's do it. when you leave the hospital and you see people concerned about wearing masks or concerned about starting school up and having big assemblies, you want to take them and place them into the
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hospital to see these patients being intubated and not having family members around because we're trying to protect themselves, protect the staff and protect everyone around. you would love to put them into our situation and see what's actually happening but, you know, it's just about being educated and trying to be advocates for what's actually happening on the hospital side of things and hopefully, the buy in from leadership says this is real. we need to affect change in a two-pronged approach and do the best we can. i'm optimistic we can get over it but it may take time and we need to be slow and go conservative with it. >> appreciate all you and your fellow doctors are doing. thank you so much. >> thank you. just ahead, a contentious judiciary committee for the president's top cop today and sheila jackson lee joins us to discuss what he said to her about sis systematic racism in the police department. we see you....looking out for all of us. but you can't lose sight of your own well-being
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so we collaborate ♪ ocean spray works with nature every day to farm in a sustainable way attorney general william barr taking questions about his actions in previous statements. a combative hearing forced the top lawyer and law enforcement officer to defend alleged legal treatment for president trump and saw him struggle with whether it's okay to accept foreign assistance in elections. we'll get to that exchange in a
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moment because it was his sparring with democrats over treatment of black americans and federal law enforcement action against protesters that produced some of the testiest exchanges. >> do you think americans that show up to peacefully protest should expect to be beaten and pepper sprayed and have their bones broken by federal officers? >> well, i don't think that what was happening immediately around the courthouse was a peaceful protest. >> you take an aggressive approach to black lives matter protests, but not to right wing extremists threatening to lynch the governor if it's for the president's benefit. did i get it right, mr. barr? >> i have responsibility for the federal government. >> you seem to have a difficult time understanding systemic racism and institutional racism that has plagued so many. mr. attorney general, do you understand a black mother oar -- or parents talk to their son. do you know what that is? >> i think i do. >> i don't know if you do but trayvon martin, michael brown, sean bell and george floyd, black mothers and fathers have had to talk to their sons about
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police violence. >> joining us now, committee member there at the end, congresswoman sheila jackson lee of texas. thanks for being with us. was attorney general barr's answer satisfies to you. do you think he believes there is systemic racism? >> i don't think he believes it nor does the president of the united states. frankly, we were trying to remind him the core of the peaceful protesters all over this nation all over the world came about by seeing as his statement said as he made his opening statement that george floyd's death was shocking. i corrected him and said it was not shocking, it was a murder on the streets of america and at the hands of the misconduct of police officers and a judiciary committee knows it. over the years, systemic racism that caused anderson, as you have heard, the greatest stops of african americans in serges in terms of traffic stops. the greatest stops with native americans and frankly, i wanted to know just as simple the basic
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question of the 20th century, 21st evidenced and obviously enhanced been sired into our minds. george floyd. went to high school of a man who is like eric garner on the streets of one of our major cities saying i can't breathe and calling out for his mother. did they understand, did general barr understand that this was not a single incident but it occurred over and over and over again. >> republicans were certainly trying to paint a picture which aligns with the trump campaign ads that all these protests are violent over running cities and america is under attack. >> you know, i served as a city counsel for a number of years in
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my city, the city of houston and i understand, i hear the mayors and local officials saying to the president you're unwanted. we were able to handle these matters. we have handled these matters and again, i wanted to reinforce those were peaceful protests out of sheer outrage of people from all backgrounds, all races, color and creeds that was the moving and moe mennous time of what we saw. we saw young people coming from everywhere saying black lives matter. but what happened? because the president needed a narrative for his campaign, all of a sudden, really out of blue came the ignoring of the horrors of george floyd's death. what his family is now going through. what breonna taylor's family is going through, what tamir rice's family is going through for six years and it was a moment for administration to take advantage
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of and pitch people against each other and put professors and others in hospital beds having been beaten or shot and frankly, put, i believe, men and women who came to serve their government for the good things for civil liberties, for what is right. those wearing uniforms being told by the president to go against fellow citizens. i don't know if that was their intention when they took their oath as part of the department of homeland security or u.s. marshals or any other part but here they are being directed or national guardsmen, here they are directed to go against fellow citizens doing nothing more than expressing outrage of the violence that they saw by bad policing and i'm not going to allow them, anderson, to push us into a corner where we are against the idea of safety and security. what those who are on the streets are against is the mistreatment, the violence, the lose of lives of those who names i called. again, like sandra bland and
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pamela turner and others. that's what they are against. >> appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you for having me. former white house ethics for president obama, a case for the american people, the united states versus donald j. trump out today. knowing everything you know as the former impeachment counsel democrats on the committee, i wonder your impressions watching general barr's per form mans -- performance today. >> thank you for having me back. the attorney general's performance was shameful. he doubled down on lies large and small continuing misrepresentations which a federal court, not me, a federal court said his representations about the mueller report were dishonest. the small lies, too, that no tear gas was fired on protesters in lafayette park.
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i thought the committee did a good job considering the five-minute segments and the disruptions of the republicans that the majority on the committee did a good job of pinning him down and exposing him to the american people and anderson, one of the most troubling things i saw today having sat on that day and i write in a case for the american people about the attorney general's propensity for lying to protech donald trump. he was openly destainful of women and people of color. i thought much more so than the other members and that was troubling, too. >> i want to play an exchange between congressman and barr today that got to the heart of the impeachment of the president which he worked on. listen. >> is it ever appropriate, sir, for the president to solicit and accept foreign assistance in an election? >> depends what kind of assistance. >> is it ever appropriate for the president or presidential candidate to accept or solicit foreign assistance of any kind in his or her election? >> no, it's not appropriate. >> no, it's not appropriate. what do you make that he initially said depends what kind
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of assistance and then said no, it's not appropriate? >> anderson, i write about this in the book. that's a reference, he's hesitating there because the president, the through line of the president's behavior from russia, are you listening to saying the same thing basically to the ukrainian president to now the way he's exploiting the risk to our elections in essence, welcoming the tax on our elections by refusing to hold russia accountable. the president seeks foreign interference in our elections. congressman sicily did a good job of pinning the attorney general down. the problem is, anderson, the a.g. is the enabler in chief. he tried to block the whistle blower report that blew open ukraine and the impeachment with phony legal justifications and we heard a lot of those. so he has had a shameful record and he only made it worse today. >> your book, your new book is a case for the american people of the united states v donald trump. you described how the house drew up ten articles including obstructing the russia investigation and authorizing hush money payments.
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do you think it was a mistake not to go down that path and focus on a narrow set of charges on the end? >> anderson, as one of the principle drafters of the ten articles for months i carried including obstruction, obstructing the russia investigation and authorizing hush money payments for women. do you think it was a mistake for the democrats to not go down that path and instead focus on a very set of narrow charges? >> well, anderson, as one of the principal drafters of those articles for months, i carried them around folding over in my pocket, to measure the president's behavior as it got worse and worse. of course i would have liked to have seen all ten articles, but politics is the art of the possible. and the coalition, the majority in the house was able to unify around two articles. one for abuse of power. one for obstruction of congress on the ukraine matter.
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but those two articles contained within them a description of the president's pattern, as i've described, starting with russia, are you listening? and all of the features we worked in, myself, co-counsel, larry burk, joshua matz, all the people who worked on the impeachment. we worked in all the features of the ten articles. so if you look at the book, look again at those two articles, you'll see affects of all ten contained in them. >> norm eisen, appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thanks, anderson. new information on joe biden's pick for vice president when we return. just over a year ago, i was drowning in credit card debt. sofi helped me pay off twenty-three thousand dollars of credit card debt. they helped me consolidate all of that into one low monthly payment. they make you feel like it's an honor for them to help you out. i went from sleepless nights
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joe biden teased a little more about his vice presidential pick in delaware today. he said he'll make his decision next week. when we'll hear about it likely before the convention which starts august 17th.
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