and a paramedic with the los angeles fire department. he worked there for more than 16 years. it's unclear how he became infected. there have been at least 145 positive cases in the l.a. fire department. jose is the first firefighter to die from this virus. he leaves behind a wife and four children. kimora lynum was called kimmie by her family. she's the youngest in the state of florida to die from the coronavirus. she was a happy little girl, healthy. she didn't have any pre-existing conditions. she was spending the summer at home, not attending school or summer camp. she didn't have any close contact with anyone who had the virus, according to state health department records. even so, kimmie came down with a high fever one day. she was sent to the hospital. the hospital soon sent her hume and soon after that she collapsed. kimmie lynum was only 9 years old. she's the fifth minor in florida to die. joel revzen was a conductor. he made his debut in 2017.

"the washington post" once reviewed him as a graceful and intelligent conductor who paid attention to the smallest details. joel is known not just for his talent but his generous spirit. he not only made music from the heart, he also led from the heart. joel revzen was 74 years old. that's all we have for right now. thanks so much for watching. we'll be back tomorrow on 360. i want to hand things over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> i apologize for missing the tease. i was writing. this is probably the most important piece we've done for the top of the show since covid started. i apologize. thank you very much for giving me the opportunity. great to see you, as always. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." please take a moment and listen to this, because we need to

answer a question here. this is not a rhetorical device, it's not a joke. this matters. it is probably the central concern that is stopping us from getting where we need to be with this pandemic. the reason we aren't where we need to be is not because of the science. it's not because of the government effort. it is because the president doesn't want to own this situation. you have to know that. it's not about politics. just hold on for a second before you go there. this is about what he thinks is good for him, and he told you that today. we have argued consistently here. that the president refuses to take control of this pandemic because he cares more about how it looks for him than he cares about you. now that's harsh, i know, i don't want to say it, i have to say it. and tonight he told you this in his own way.

he gave us the best proof that we are right about him. here it is. >> you know, it's interesting, he's got a very good approval rating, and i like that. it's good. because, remember, he's working for this administration. he's working with us, john. we could have gotten other people. we could have gotten somebody else. it didn't have to be dr. fauci. he's working with our administration. and for the most part we've done pretty much what he and others, dr. birx and others, who are terrific, recommended. and he's got this high approval rating. so why don't i have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration -- with respect to the virus? so it sort of is curious. a man works for us, with us very closely, dr. fauci, and dr. birx, also highly thought of. and yet they're highly thought of but nobody likes me. >> but nobody likes me.

now, you have to understand something. i'm not psychologist. i am a little bit of a trumpologist. i've been around this man for a long time and the idea, well, just cut him out. when you cut the president out, you get exactly where you are right now, nowhere. nothing will happen if he doesn't want it to happen. it can't. yes, congress should do more. yes, it's wrong for the senate to sleep on the aid package. yes, frankly, it's wrong for pelosi and schumer and the other democrats not to be jumping up and down in outrage over the inaction. they say things but not enough. that's all fair criticism. nothing will change without him, and you now know why we are where we are. if he is not liked, if he doesn't think something is good for him, he will do nothing on that subject. what he will do is try to destroy what seems to be better than he is.

now, no one around him is going to answer the question that he just asked, but i will. because that's the job. the reason people don't like you the way they like tony fauci has nothing to do with like and everything to do with trust, mr. president. fauci has been straight. birx has played more to covering for you, but admittedly, both have said when they did things wrong. they both have showed proof, facts for why people should and should not do certain things. with tony fauci, we know the motivation is to help, to keep us safe. i know that personally. i also know personally that it is not true with you. you are motivated only to help yourself. and somebody or some group helped you believe that ducking

the pandemic is a better move for you than owning the reality. and, frankly, you should fire those people. because by lying about the virus, by denying states help, by denying the science and pushing bogus notions, you have made the pandemic worse. it has taken over the economy as the main issue. and you are now making your chances of winning again worse. you see it in the polls and it is all because of this. the reason you are not where birx, and certainly fauci are, you revealed in what you did last night. this retweet. when you decided to retweet nonsense. attacking them because you don't like the pandemic. and you don't like that he is liked. if you aren't liked then you must destroy who is liked. you've always been this way.

you're doing it now, but it's hurting you most of all. you retweet junk that our nation's top infectious disease expert, the person you just said, is yosaid is your main guy, and last night you put out stuff that he misled us on a widely debunked miracle cure. here it is. you trashed a man that we know cares about us and then you showed the difference between you and him. when confronted with what you obviously put out there about him, you lied about it. >> you said that dr. fauci misled the country about hydroxychloroquine? how so? >> no, not at all. i don't even know what his stance is on it. >> put the tweet back up. it was last night. and we're all too sophisticated for this, well, he didn't tweet it, he retweeted it. it's the same thing and we all know it. so he's asked, and he says, oh, no, never, not at all.

i don't even know his stance. then why did you put this out? this is why you're not where fauci is. you go on a twitter bender retweeting videos, and the reason that we are being pancaked by the pandemic is that instead of acting, you would rather trash the man who is trying to act. the man you call your top scientist. and in favor of who and what? you're going to trash fauci. you better have good reasons for trashing fauci, right? you know we care about what he says, right? you know he's proven himself to us, right? so what do you do it with? in favor of someone making unproven claims about hydroxychloroquine, a doctor who argued against the value of masks that you just said were patriotic to wear but you're going to support someone who says you don't need them? a doctor who has published videos talking about alien dna.

that's who you're going to promote over tony fauci? someone who has insisted that sex with spirits is responsible for a range of medical problems. that over tony fauci? that's the doctor that the president wants to use to amplify his own message? now do you get why you are not as popular? let it sink in. listen to tony fauci. in how he addresses this nonsense. >> i have not been misleading the american public under any circumstances. >> does he say anything about you? no and never. does he grandstand? no and never. simple and true. and we believe him because we know it from what he has shown us. he has not misled us.

has he been wrong? yes. has he been slow? yes. and he's told us that. but you, sir, over and over, from behind the presidential seal, just a bunch of bunk. >> many doctors think it is extremely successful. the hydroxychloroquine. some people don't. some people -- i think it's become very political. it's safe. it doesn't cause problems. i had no problem. politically it doesn't seem to be too popular. you know why? because i recommend it. when i recommend something, they like to say don't use it. >> that one statement right there is why you will never be respected the way any scientist is, let alone tony fauci or even dr. birx. let me ask you this. if you believe that

hydroxychloroquine is so good and so safe that you recommend it, why aren't you asking for it to be studied? why aren't you throwing a ton of money at it? why aren't you jumping up and down, insisting that the government test as many people as fast as they could to find out if this is the pill that we need that could change all this? why not? if it's so damn good, if you're so damn sure, why, sir, have you not jumped on it? why is it enough for you to remark about it, to say it as an aside? people are dying. we're desperate. why won't you do something? if you think the hydroxychloroquine is so good, why don't you prove it? why don't you commission it? why don't you force it? you can do those things. but you don't. and that's the answer. you don't. maybe you took it for yourself, maybe you didn't.

i don't know and we can't trust you. so we don't know. but i do know this. it doesn't matter enough to you to try to do it for anybody else, does it? because you are all about you. now, some may say all politicians are. yes, but not in this kind of grotesque fashion. of course politicians are about themselves, self-interest is the motivation, being elected. politicians in general are more apt when it comes to acting out of fear of consequence than it is exercising good conscience. we know this. that's why so many people are so outside the system, so sick of it. frankly, it's a big reason you got in. but i don't know that people knew they were voting for a worse form of what they rejected. somebody who would say that he knows a drug can change things, can save them, but then doesn't do anything to get it for everybody else and prove that he's right and make it a national plan and put out a plan to help people by giving them this drug, if that's what you think it is.

if that's what you think it is. you did it for yourself. the people around you had to wear masks. people around you got tested all the time. they got turnaround like that. they got contact traced every way possible. as quickly as possible. for you. but not for the rest of us. no plan to help turn around test times. you've been hearing how long it's taking, days, over a week. that kind of feedback is useless. we can't open schools with that. you know it. no plan. wow. that's the answer to your question, sir. you're no tony fauci. and this isn't cheap gotcha. we're way past that. we are sick and dying. and it doesn't look like it's going to get better any time soon. you were right about that. but it took you less than a week to go bad on that message because you think it's bad for

you. and your instinct is making us sick. it is a destructive emotion and it's destructive for all of us. and it's keeping you from keeping us safe. that's the answer to why fauci's approval rating is better than yours. take a listen to this. >> we're seeing improvements across the major metro areas in most hot spots. you can look at large portions of our country, it's corona-free. >> less and less of this country is corona-free and you know it. i'm all for putting a positive spin on things. frankly, it's your job. you are not there to echo the worst of reality all the time. you are there to inspire hope, sir, yes, you are. you said the carnage would be over. you have contrasted more carnage than we have ever imagined in this country. during my lifetime, i've never seen anything like this. neither have you.

and you're making it worse. most of the country is corona-free. for how long? what are you doing to keep it that way? not a damn thing. california, arizona, texas, the biggest and baddest example, florida, that governor down there thought he was playing by your rules and it was gonna go great. he couldn't wait for his pat on the head, for his pat on the back. today to broke another daily death record. 22 states have rising cases. you have done nothing. if you want to know how to be popular like tony fauci, if you want this to be good for you, be good to us. have the people who know make a plan to help states get tests more smart, more quick, processed better and faster. you can do that. do it. tell the people who know how do

we target the money that these congress members are working on to help schools stay open, if they open and when? you can do it. you have refused to do it. and that is why you are not popular, sir. be good to us and people will be good to you. and if you stay like this, this is how you will be weighed and measured, and as of today, you have been found lacking. we're going to take a break. when we come back, we have a former fda commissioner, dr. mark mcclellan, and dana bash to help us process the science and the political science of where we are right now. feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin.

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he's got this high approval rating, so why don't i have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration, they're highly thought of, but nobody likes me. that's all. it can only be my personality, that's all. >> in part, it's your personality, it's the part of your personality, mr. president, that drives you to inaction and drives you to try to destroy those who are liked better than you. that's the truth.

what are you going to do about it? that's what we'll see. former fda commissioner mark mcclellan joins us now, and dana bash -- i'll excuse you from the political part of this, doctor. i don't want to sullen you with it. for the blessed few like you and me, when he said that today, your eyes pope up and you say, yes. this is what we have been dealing with. this is how simple and scary it is. he wants to be liked. and if something doesn't make him liked, he will reject it, if someone is liked and not him, he will attack them. and he laid it all out there for people to hear in his own words. >> that's exactly right. and that is including and in many cases especially people around him. when people fly too high, when aides or even, you know, officials who are confirmed by the united states senate get too popular, that is seen as an

affront to the president of the united states. this president of the united states. and it's what it's all about. i mean, chris, you know this. talk to anybody who spends any time with the president. they will tell you that he has one goal, and that is he wants people to like him. now, the way he tries to attain that goal, many times, i would even venture to say these days, often times backfires and has the opposite effect, but that is what he tries, that is what he yearned for, adoration and adulation. and sometimes it's the people and the institutions that he attacks the most are the ones that he has the desire to have the most respect from. >> right. and -- which would all be fine if he were still on tv and developing cheesy hotels. but as president of the united states, in the middle of a pandemic, that's a bad look. now, doctor, that's where you

come in. >> yeah. >> the idea of pushing hydroxychloroquine, hey, if you think it works, if you think the science is there, then the thing for the president to do is to gin up all the testing, turn around to people like you -- the fda commissioner would have to listen. if he said to you, dr. mcclellan, i believe in the hydroxychloroquine. here's who told me about that. don't you worry about that. i want the testing right now and i want it ramped up and i want it available, let me know if i'm wrong. get back to me as soon as possible. he's not doing that. what is your read on the effect of putting out, let's be generous, unproven sources to say hydroxychloroquine is the cure. what's the net effect? >> well, it's a reminder, chris, that for people who are in public health, like dr. fauci, we really need them to keep doing what they're doing and communicate with the public about it. we do have evidence now that, unfortunately, hydroxychloroquine has not shown effectiveness in good, well-designed studies where people are, you know, randomized to get treatment or not.

we are finding other treatments that do work. remdesivir, maybe some of the antibody treatments, other antibody treatments that are coming and, of course, vaccines are in process. and thanks to dr. fauci and a whole lot of other health professionals and experts in nih and fda and cdc and other parts of government, we're going to keep making progress on that. >> one quick follow-up and then, dana, i want to get your head on what this means to where we are politically. but the quick follow is this. is it definitely true that there is no plan on the federal level that's been delivered to states about here's how you ramp up testing and get approvals faster. here's how you test smart? do pocket tests and all these different things about groups, you know, all these different strategies. we know there no plan. is the reason there is no plan is because the president hasn't pushed for one? >> i don't know if that's the reason, but you're right that we need a more of a national plan. the rockefeller foundation recently released a report that

i was privileged to be a part of outlining some steps forward. there have been some important steps to make more tests available in nursing homes, but congress needs to do more and i hope we get some national leadership from a combination of the executive branch and congress in the very near future, chris. >> but why else there wouldn't be a plan, mark? i'm not talking about what the solutions are. i'm just saying in terms of detail with processing. test turnaround, five, seven, ten-plus days. i'm sure all of us heard stories like that from friends and colleagues. that's something the government could by working on. they're not. what's the explanation if the president hasn't looked at someone like you and said make it happen? >> well, i think there's an opportunity to get better and i hope we get there soon. it's a matter of prioritizing the right tests, using more screening tests for people who don't have symptoms so they take some of the pressure off, and really ramping up the development of innovative new tests as well. we've got capacity that we're

not using filipino it do. it does need a national plan, chris. >> no question about it. so, dana, the question then becomes is what do you hear about what he's being told what the fix is here? we know people getting sideways on this ignore the pandemic strategy. it's not working for him anymore. that's why he changed. what are you hearing about how ambitious they think the president can be in taking on the pandemic in order to salvage his campaign? >> well, there are two different issues. one is what he actually will do. and that is the policy question from within the white house. which is very much unanswered, as dr. mcclellan just laid out. and then there's the question of what he says and how he acts. and that is where the campaign comes in and where they have pushed him very hard to act differently. that lasted a week, and if you include the beginning of the press conference today, at least

the beginning, you know, until he got to the very real questions about the way that he behaves and the information or misinformation that he pushes when he's not in the briefing room reading from a very carefully crafted statement. that he has been doing for the past week. like the hydroxychloroquine question. like the anthony fauci question. and it is when he is asked those very important questions from reporters that he decides to end the press conference, which is what happened with kaitlan collins. that is not a win politically for this president, according to people i talk to, which is probably stating the obvious, and more importantly, it is not a win for this president policy wise. and real leadership wise when it comes to trying to find a way to get this country out of the mess that even privately people who really like the president admit is happening because he

completely ignored and tried to wish away and will away this virus as opposed to galvanizing the federal government to have a strategy that people like dr. mcclellan, who worked for a republican president, knows is possible. >> the irony is, we know that the people around him were trying to make this campaign about something else that would be bigger than just a personality analysis, a thumb's up and down on trump. the irony is they did, and it's the pandemic, and he's in bad position on this, as bad as he could find. worse than i thought his gut would ever tell him. i've never seen him misread a situation like this in all the time i've known him. dr. mark mcclellan, thank you very much for keeping us straight on the policy side, and dana, nobody's got better eyes than you. thanks for the insight, as always. >> thanks, chris. all right. to another big issue that happened today in our economy, attorney general bill "no holds barr." why do i call him that? because he does anything to

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the attorney general spent hours facing congress today. there was one moment that laid bare the truth about the man who serves you, supposedly, as attorney general. >> mr. barr, during a radio interview this spring with hugh hewitt, you praised president trump's response to the coronavirus as heroic. >> who did? >> you did. >> when president trump falsely claimed the number of coronavirus cases would go from 15 to 0 in a few days, was that

superb or no? >> i'd have to see the context in which it was said. >> was that superb, yes or no? >> it was accurate. >> in april, president trump irresponsibly suggested that the american people inject themselves with bleach. was that superb, yes or no? >> that's not what i heard. >> that's exactly what he said. in july, president trump falsely claimed that 99% of covid-19 cases are, quote, totally harmless. was that superb, yes or no? >> i think essentially what he was saying is that the fatality rate, relatively, is very low, very low. >> the answer is 150,000 americans are dead. it has been a failure of epic proportions. >> now that man is someone who, you know, in a lot of circles you'd say, there's your boy, and

that's who he is. he is trump's boy. those positions have nothing to do with the department of justice. he's supposed to give that annoying answer. what does that have to do with what i do? why are you asking me that? i am the attorney general. i don't get involved in politics. what i said in an interview, i said, and that's not why i'm here today. that's what you're supposed to say, but not him. barr's instinctive political fealty to this president was on full display. and, yes, attorneys general are always in the pocket of those who put them there, but not like this. it's a fealty that echos in everything that he does and that has impact on us. all right. so that was barr, and that's what we have to remember about him. we have to keep a check on our democracy. let's take a break. when we come back, we're going to talk to the mayor of portland about what is happening there and whether or not that city is a tinderbox that is going to take us all down. next.

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the attorney general warned congress today that if federal forces don't contain the protests in portland violence could spread all over the country. listen. >> we are concerned about this problem metastasizing around the country. and so we feel that we have to in a place like portland, even where we don't have the support of the state -- the local government, we have to take a stand and defend this federal property. >> metastasizing. that's how we talk about cancers. is that what portland is? is it a cancer that's going to spread all over the country? the mayor of portland, mr. ted wheeler, is here. mayor, thank you. plea answer the question. is what's happening in portland out of control and going to spread all over the country if the federal forces don't go in there and quiet it? >> well, the attorney general may be talking about something completely different. i do think it is a threat if the attorney general continues to send federal officers to cities

across the country, and, frankly, during his grilling today i wish somebody had asked him point-blank, attorney general barr, do you believe that your strategy has been successful? frankly, it's stunning to me that the attorney general can't draw a clear line between the increased federal presence, the violent and indiscriminate tactics that they've been using in this surge and violence and vandalism, and, frankly, pushback from ordinary people here in the city of portland. all of us agree here in the city of portland that their presence here has made things much worse and that escalation is merely leading to more escalation. >> so let's talk about what was right and what was wrong. you have this huge federal complex there, right? and certainly the feds have the legal right and, frankly, the responsibility, frankly, to depend it, right? them defending the courthouse and those offices, that wasn't wrong. what was wrong? >> well, what was wrong was the

tactics they used. they were abhorrent. they were overbearing in terms of proportionality in terms of what people were doing, and quite frankly, they're unconstitutional. to come into a city and predictably every single night start indiscriminately and broadly tieargassing people, shoving them into vehicles, failing to identify themselves, this is not how things are done in america. this is more like a police state in terms of the tactics. they weren't wanted here. we didn't invite them here. this is a time for cooler heads to prevail, and that starts with the federal government withdrawing its officers. we need to de-escalate the situation, not do what they've done, which is escalate it. >> what a terrible position to put those men and probably women, the federal forces that are there, in the position of having to carry out this kind of mandate. do you think that it was wrong to keep the dhs -- now it's the

department of justice, it's the a.g., but then it was the department of homeland security secretary. you had said earlier, i don't want to meet with him. he knows what i want. do you think you should have met? do you think you should meet now and do you think you should try to negotiate something? because you're not going to get them to leave just by talking to us. >> no, there's no question about that. and i want your viewers to nokn that there are conversations ongoing. frankly, they've been fruitful. i can't tell you the details. >> that's fine. >> but i can tell you this. i expect there will be an announcement shortly. portlanders don't want to continue to stand there at that fence and fight federal officers each and every night. >> you think after what the a.g. said tonight, mr. mayor, they're they're gonna leave? >> i sure hope they do because they've got to acknowledge what they're doing isn't working. there is very little disagreement on the ground here in portland that what they are doing is escalating both the violence, the vandalism and the kind of response that the public has had. since they've gotten here, we've seen thousands more people come

out on to the vetostreets than r to their arrival. it's not working and they need to start by acknowledging that. >> well, i will take you at your word. i hope you are having conversations because obviously something needs to change, but after the attorney general laid down trump's law today, because that's what his job was, to say the president wants this to happen. it will be interesting to see if they leave. mayor ted wheeler, please keep us in the loop and stay safe. >> will do. thank you. >> thank you and be well. all right. let's take this conversation wider, okay? this is scary stuff. having federal forces inserted into communities that aren't aski asking for them, okay? think about that for a second. senator cory booker is going to join the conversation. he told bill barr, the attorney general, to his face that he was normalizing dangerous behavior by trump. and he said that more than a year ago. what does he think about where we are today and where we need to go next? the senator from new jersey. new brow extensions crayon from maybelline new york. our first for thicker-looking brows.

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according to the u.s. attorney general, there's no such thing as peaceful resistance to the police. >> have you now called for law enforcement to stop using these chemical irritants on protesters, yes or no? >> pepper spray, no. >> no? >> i think it's a very important nonlethal option. >> for protesters. >> no, for rioters. >> sir, that was my question, for protesters. >> no, for rioters. >> yes. sir, america was founded on the principles of free speech. >> when people resist law enforcement -- >> excuse me. >> -- they're not peaceful. >> did the top law enforcement official in this country just take the side of people like bull conor over those who stood with the late john lewis? let's bring in new jersey senator cory booker. senator, welcome back to "prime time." couple of very heavy moments today. one with the president that tells us why we are where we are with the pandemic, and then the

attorney general. john lewis talked about making good trouble. and we both would recognize that you break buildings, you attack police, that's bad trouble. but what did you hear in the attorney general today? >> well, you know, he was pressed on everything from the attack in front of the white house, where they turned on peaceful protesters, all the way to just other trump lies, with senator richmond talking to him about mail-in ballots and him parroting the president's line, as opposed to being an independent chief law enforcement officer, he's proving himself again and again to be the president's political operative. >> so senator, just speak to it this way. >> yes. >> many people watching will say, come on, that's what they all do. holder was there for obama,

everybody's there, even janet reno was there for clinton until the whole monica lewinsky thing blew up. that's what they're supposed to do. your response in. >> i want to tell you right now, that this attorney general does not respect any lines. he engaged in that hearing in a way that was stunning to me. he didn't back up what he was saying with facts or law. he was parroting the president. and what you have been talking about on this show, this is not an innocuous level of politics as we've seen, this is a deep erosion of our fundamental institutions. remember, there were republicans that spoke that were outraged about them turning the force of law on peaceful protesters in front of the white house. there have been republicans that have been called into question, this idea of the justice department adjusting the sentencing test test. test test. who were found guilty of serious crimes.

so there's time and time again this crosses a line that deeply under mines legitimacy of the office. and casts himself as trumps personal lawyer and not an independent chief law enforcement officer for the country at at time that this nation needs that kind of security. as we move forward. he couldn't even answer in the hearing in a direct fashion about whether the president has the power or not to change an election date. which is clear reading of a statue. he's trying to do everything he can to take his direction from trump's tweets and trumps suggestions which are attacking the institution that are fundamental to the preservation of the democracy. >> it's so interesting to have the mayor of portland on. if the federal troops pull out after the barr said they're there. that would be a real act of defiance by the secretary.

we'll watch that. joe biden, while i have you here, put out an economic plan that is focussed on racial equality. in a campaign environment where you have the president putting us vs. them first. and black vs. white as a big part of that for the president. is there concern that white voters will say so if biden gets in there he'll only take care of blacks. it will be bad for me. what's your read? >> this is why biden is a phenomenal messenger. equal access to capitol. if african-americans have equal access. they get turned down by loans in a dramatic fashion. and a less amount of the dollars out there. you send somebody black and white into the bank with the same resume and qualifications. african-americans get worse treatment. that would add $1 trillion more to the economy. helping out americans creating

hundreds of thousands of jobs. so joe is td person to help us understand that this is not about charity towards one group over another. this is about the country fulfilling the full potential. in this globally competitive environment we need everybody on the field having equal opportunity to contribute to this great nation's economic system. and so his plan is brilliant. it involves everything from using cra and procurement community reinvestment act. a policy and more. to help create a level playing field for black businesses. and better standing up capitol institutions that should be doing more loans to small businesses and minority businesses. it's actually progressive policy that's really about making our capitalist system work better for everyone. >> my father used to say imagine america when all the diversity is at full impact. and everybody in the place is working at full capacity. imagine how great we'll be. that is a dream. we have to work towards it every day.

that is promoting a perfect union. the president doesn't want to put out a plan to get testing smarter and turned around. he doesn't think the pandemic is good for him. he said today i don't know why dr. fauci is popular and i'm not. his answer is attack fauci. what can you do in the senate, he's not coming out with a plan. what should you be doing to express out rage and force a plan from the federal government? >> the fact we're having a conversation about the behavior of the highest office in the land speaking jealously about someone from his own administration team. having better approval ratings than him and being more popular than him.

we have to sometimes just reality check we're actually having a conversation about a behavior we would expect from a juvenile than someone who at a time with need moral leadership, we need someone to rise up and show the best of virtues and values. democrats are in ha position the republicans put up a stunning bill that had very little money for to expand the testing that we need to do to create the kind of economic help we need for unemployed workers. very little funding for simple things like expand ppe and more. we have a lot of leverage. republicans are divided right now and don't want to spend more money. the federal reserve and two republicans are saying we have to invest in our state and local government. we have to invest in education. we're strong and united as a caucus. you have to do more to create a

national system with a world war ii like mobilization. for testing and contacts tracing. if we fail to do that, we were not silent. we stood up and fight. if the president is failing and the republican leadership that should have done this bill weeks and weeks ago, if they fail to do for the american people, they will suffer the consequences. i'm not talking about election. i'm talking about death and destruction going onto the economy. and to the brothers and sisters and patriots. >> senator booker, thank you for being on the show. >> thank you. >> be well. we'll be right back. this is a tempur-pedic mattress.

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