for the same medications as the vet, but up to 30 percent less with fast free shipping. visit petmeds.com today. the president floats delaying the election. and more. >> mail-in ballots will lead to the greatest fraud. this election will be the most rigged election in history. >> reformer presidents offer a contrast and one adds a warning. >> when those in power who are attacking our voting rights with surgical precision. >> plus, the coronavirus summer surge craters the economy and crashes back to school plans. >> we need to put out all the stops to get it down to baseline, and to keep it there. >> and it is vp decision time. >> i'm going to have a choice in the first week in august.

and i promise to let you know when i do. welcome to "inside politics," i'm john king, to our viewers in the united states and around the world, thank you so much for sharing your sunday. the week just behind us is full of stop in your track moments. here is a few, july ended with an average of 1,000 plus u.s. coronavirus deaths a day. that is double what it was when the month began. california reported a record death toll on july's final day, that in the very same week its coronavirus case count passed 500,000. the largest economic collapse in history just last week. emergency unemployment benefits for those thrown out of work by covid-19 expired. and the nation said farewell to john lewis, the congressman, and the civil rights legend. three former presidents were part of the moving lewis sendoff, bill clinton, george w. bush and barack obama.

president obama was much more direct. >> george wallace may be gone. but we can witness our federal government sending agents to use tear gas and batons against peaceful demonstrators. and attacking our voting rights with surgical precision, even undermining the postal service in the run-up to an election, that's going to be dependent on mail-in ballots. >> of the many startling things the incumbent president said and tweeted last week, the most startling came the morning of that lewis farewell, thursday, male- mail-in voting cannot be trusted and then raising the idea to delay the election until people can properly, securely and safely vote. for once, most of his fellow republicans told the president, no. never. so the president dropped the

delay part, but then returned quickly to a line of attack that raises questions about whether he will accept the results if he loses. >> it will be fixed. it will be rigged. people ought to get smart. this is going to be the greatest election disaster in history. you do universal mail-ins with millions and millions of ballots, you never are going to know what the real result of an election is. >> with us this sunday, the former utah congresswoman nia love and former massachusetts governor deval patrick. i wanted the two of you here, you're both proud partisans but reasonable partisans. congresswoman, i want to start with you as the republican. are you among the republicans who think he's joking, he's just losing and he's pouting, or do you believe that this president is seriously trying to undermine the integrity of the election in a way that if he loses, he might say i don't accept? >> well, first of all, i think that it is important to know

that for any republican it is very difficult to disagree. it is not the most comfortable place to disagree with the pres but delaying an election is -- it is just -- it doesn't -- the power doesn't lie with him, it lies with congress and also the states are doing some things to make sure that they got their elections in order, this is not haiti. this is not some other third world country that can't get their elections in order. and utah has done a good job, they ironed out the kinks, they worked hard to get all mail-in voting, so i just -- to delay an election and to actually go out and say it is going to be -- it is going to be fraudulent, it is not going to work, i think that the president should really work on just getting the economy back in order. i mean, he could actually do a good job for himself and set a

good message saying i'm going to focus on the things that americans need right now instead of saying this is already going to be corrupt and it is not going to work. do the job you're supposed to do, don't worry about the election. >> you're not first republican to raise the focus question for the president of the united states. but governor patrick, he's at it again this morning, the president up early this morning, started retweeting at 5:30 a.m., including retweeting a tweet by a nevada republican who has every right to wage the debate, but nevada republican suggesting that the democrats there who do plan a special session to deal with mail-in votings, the president there, the republican in nevada saying democrats trying to ram this through. we'll let them debate that in the legislature in nevada and the voters can decide in neve m nevada what they think. are you worried, governor patrick, this election, because so many states are going through this, might come down to who has the better lawyers, not the most votes? >> i hope not. but, you know, if this election

is fixed, and rigged as the president says it will be because the president fixed it and rigged it. the party at the national level has had vote suppression as a central part of its strategy. and we see this in these amped up voter i.d. laws,purging processes and initiatives. they have a poll tax in florida right now. mail-in voting, first of all, is something the president, his family, his cabinet members d s routinely. it can be done. it has been done routinely in states like utah where the congresswoman is from. and in other states, if they prepare, it can be done. and frankly it should be done in the interest of the safety of voters. look, joe biden wants a fair fight. he believes in democracy, unlike the current president and we believe that our ideas can

compete in a fair fight. and fair this time means making mail-in balloting available widely to people around the country and individuals should have a plan around how they will vote in the cycle. >> it is our most sacred right, congresswoman, no one should be afraid of anyone debating, right? whether you oppose mail-in ballot, come forward, present your ideas, make the case, let legislatures vote. this is one of the top advisers on fox news the other day, sometimes we have to pull back the curtain to see what they really mean, sometimes they're quite clear. >> nobody who mails in a ballot has their identity confirmed. nobody checks to see if they're even a u.s. citizen. think about that. a simple principle. one citizen, one vote. emphasis on the word citizen. universal mail-in ballots are an attempt to dilute the vote of your viewers. >> dilute the vote of your viewers? i think i know what he's trying

to say, do you? >> well, again, if you really think there are some problems there, work on fixing problems. don't work on trying to get certain americans not to vote, don't work on getting people not to vote, and, again, he's neglecting the biggest message, the greatest message he has, that is i am going to get the economy going again. i can do it. i did it before, i can do it again. i'm going to do it before november hits so you guys know i can do the job. so he's neglecting everything that he's got going for him, and kind of poisoning the well so to speak to say, look, this is already rigged. i don't know if he's scared that he's going to lose, but it is not sending a good message, not sending a message of confidence out there to america. >> i think he certainly is worried he's going to lose, even though he likes to say the polls are fake. we can look at state by state polls, dismal for the president now. i like to look at other indicators because they take more of the partisanship out of

it. here is where we are now, if you go back to february, 40% of americans say the country was on the right track in february. 55% wrong direction. that's not great back in february. but an incumbent can win if you're at 40 or above. that's what history teaches us. now only 19% say the country is on the right track. why is that significant? let's go back in history. 1980, at 20%. ronald reagan beats jumpy carter. 1992, at 16%, bill clinton beats george h.w. bush. in 2020, the asterisk, that's now -- not election day, but the numbers today tell you this incumbent president is likely to have one term unless he can turn it around. >> i'll tell you what, john, i'm very -- i'm very nervous always about relying on polls. you are the master of them and history of them. i think we have a lot of work to do and we're taking nothing for granted in the case of joe biden

or the candidates for the senate. or for the house. but i think the important thing here, back to a point the congresswoman made is restoring and strengthening the economy. as joe biden wants to do, make it more fair, is a critical job of president. what this president doesn't understand is the connection between mastering the virus and getting the economy back going again. and his unwillingness to give us a national plan and to encourage fealty to that and real discipline is the reason the economy is on its back right now. and it is something he simply does not appreciate or has refused to accept. he's been trying to deal with this by denial. and it is another indication of his leaderlessness that he doesn't have the qualities necessary to be a fit and effective president andy think

joe biden has got to win in november, and all of us have to rally together regardless of party to make sure that happens. >> congresswoman, you've been in the room with the fellow republicans in good times and bad. what happens in those rooms? we did see some, i'm not going to overblow it, we saw some republicans willing to stand up to the president this week on the question of delaying the election. some stood up to him on withdrawing troops from germany. those are very rare occasions. what is it like in the room of republicans when you see the polls like they are now, you see that wrong track number, right track, wrong track number and know the history. the house probably not in play. if the election were today, republicans would lose the senate. what is it like to be in the room with colleagues when you know you're so tied to the incumbent president and at the moment he's failing. >> well, there is a lot that goes on. first of all, i would say damage control. what do we do? i have been in the room where we have been discussing not even during an election time, how is the president going to handle

this, how are we going to handle what the president is doing. and you're trying to do damage control. you're trying to go out there and see what you can do, what your constituents will attach themselves to, what they like, what they don't like, and what i would say that has that -- that should work, whether it is election time or not, whether you're worried about it or not, you should always remember who you represent. and that is the people. your job is not to stand behind the president, your job is to stand behind the people that have elected you to be in office. and i think that at least if you do that, you can sleep well at night. >> congresswoman mia love, deval patrick, appreciate your insights. we'll see when this plays out, we have three months to go, it is going to be more than interesting to say the least. up next, the summer surge, the overall map looks better. there are new warning signs and still frustrations with coronavirus testing. bill assumed it was a costume party.

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going up significantly. look at all the beige. those are 27 states holding steady now, including california and arizona. two states that have been driving the summer surge. 11 states going down, including florida and texas, two more states that have been a big factor in the summer surge. the map looks better today. we'll get to some warning signs, want to go back and look, here is the issue. got down to 17,000 cases a day at the beginning of june, july was just a horrible month for the coronavirus in the united states as we move into august, the question is this a plateau here? is it starting to come down a little bit? that would be great. that's still a high baseline, 60,000 cases a day or more. and this has been the big debate, dr. fauci on capitol hill, this just the other day saying he wishes, you see the 17,000 here, he wishes the united states had been able to push this down lower, pushed it down lower, makes the case, this might not have happened. >> when they shut down, they

shut down to the tune of 95% getting their baseline down to tens or hundreds of cases per day. >> so -- >> when we did it, we got it down, but unfortunately our baseline was 20,000 a day. >> with us this sunday to share their expertise, dr. ashish jha and dr. megan ranney, researcher at brown university. dr. jha, i'll start with you. dr. fauci was making the point that the european union was much more successful at shut the baseline down, the united states never really got lower than 17 or 18,000 cases a day. the president just yesterday tweeting dr. fauci is wrong. i suspect you believe he is correct? >> dr. fauci is correct, john, and thank you for having me on to discuss this. dr. fauci has been right about this pretty much all along. we opened up way too early. and part of it is when you open up with 17,000, 18,000 cases, you have much less room for

error. we opened up bars and restaurants welcome he saw what we saw in july. i think we really set us up -- ourselves up for failure and what we saw was tens of thousands of people getting sick and now more than a thousand americans dying every day. >> and the numbers are sad, the question is will they get better. dr. ranney, this is florida, driving the summer surge. you see the reopening in may, you see the 50% capacity for bars here, and then lag time. drop the restrictions, wait a couple of weeks. bars shut down again here, still kept going up in florida, starting to maybe come down a little bit, but still a 10,000 baseline. over to texas, same thing. reopening begins, bars reopen, starts to go up, bars shut again, still going up, a new mask mandate, still takes a couple of weeks, beginning to maybe plateau. any doubt in your mind that when you close the bars again, or add a mask mandate, then wait two

weeks, case comes down. pretty clear, right? >> it is absolutely clear. all the data, from watching what happens in individual states and larger studies points to the fact that when we put these very basic public health measures in place, we decreased transmission of the virus. if people are wearing masks, they don't pass it to each other as quickly or easily. if people aren't in bars or social situations, likely to pass it. an event at a youth camp include places where people are close together, singing, yelling, maybe drinking, without masks. you're right, we see about a 2 or 3 week lag time between putting the measures in place and seeing decrease in counts. we can't expect to see a change overnight. when you say we're in a better place today because we're in green, our levels are still too high. we need masks, large social

gatherings shut down for the time being until our country can come up with a comprehensive national strategy. >> we're in a better place compared to a week or two ago, you mentioned the lag time that's what worries. each state is conducting testing, it reports as positivity rate, if you look here, the beige states, where the positivity rate is under 5%. you would like to be at 0% or 1%. you see a fair amount of red here on the map as well. this is the state of play today, the problem for me, dr. jha, you look at the trend. this is the state by state now. you look at positivity in terms of up from a week ago, look at all this red. the overwhelming majority of the states are reporting a higher positivity rate this week than last week. which tells you, count 14 days, that case count goes up, not

just in california and texas and indiana and ohio, right? >> absolutely. there are two things that are going on there. one is the level of underlying infection is rising, which is what we're most concerned about. in 18, 20 states, the number of tests being done is actually falling and falling because our testing system is under such strain that we just can't even deliver the test today that we were doing two weeks ago. that's very concerning because when cases are rising, and your number of tests are falling, that's a recipe for disaster. i'm very worried about a lot of the states in the days and weeks ahead we'll see a lot more suffering and more hospitalizations. >> to your point about testing, there was that hearing, we played that sound earlier, dr. redfield was there as well. so was admiral giroir. you talked so repeatedly here on sundays about the importance of testing. i was listening to the admiral, let's play it here, having a sad

sense of deja vu. >> right now in america, anybody who needs a test can get a test in america with the numbers we have. i think we're really on track right now. it looks very good. >> in the ideal world, everybody would have a test result right when they got it. >> would it be possible for our nation to have results for all covid tests completed and returned within 48 and 72 hours? >> it is not a possible benchmark we can achieve today given the supply and demand. >> you heard from him in may, in june, early july, and just the other day in late july, we keep hearing work not there now, we'll get there, we're not there now, we'll get there. what is the issue? >> the issue is a lack of planning, honestly. it feels -- for those of us on the front line, it feels like groundhog day. this is an achievable goal, he's correct. we have not pushed to make it happen. we need to activate the defense

production act, get swabs out, if we think testing is bad now, wait until we have kids back in school and kids back on college campuses in a few weeks. our testing needs are going to skyrocket. we can do it, it is going to take political will, which so far we have been lacking. >> dr. jha, finish the conversation on that point, when dr. ranney mentions kids back in school, we'll see how many, you see kids back on college campuses and the positivity change increasing almost everywhere from a week ago, what is the challenge around the corner? >> yeah, so i think our testing system the way -- the one we have built is just starting to really collapse here. i think we need a shift. we need a shift in modalities, we didn't build the testing system, we have been talking about it for months, to deliver

for the american people. it is sad to hear him still say anybody who wants a test can get one. we know that's not correct. i'm worried we won't get the leadership from the feds so we'll have states take leadership to deliver the kind of testing that the american people need. >> back to school, back to campus and the like. dr. jha, dr. ranney, thanks again. i'm grateful for your time to help us gao through the facts. when we come back, politics. those at the top the vp list taking some shots from their critics. . they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance. i just... when i... let's try again. everybody back to one.

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joe biden promised to announce his running mate this week. however, the safe bet is the announcement will slip to next week. still, the maneuvering is fierce, both publicly and privately. one contender, senator kamala harris, had words for her critics on friday. >> nobody like you has done it before, they're not ready for you, and there will be a resistance to your ambitions. there will be people who say to you, you are out of your lane because they are -- they are burdened by only having the capacity to see what has always been instead of what can be. >> she played the inside game too. harris allies secured a meeting with biden campaign officials after a number of reports indicating some top biden advisers were sour on the california senator and that vp role. karen bass is also working to

keep her name high on the list. the daily caller unearthed this video there, at this event she praised the church and the controversial founder. in a tweet on saturday, she said allegations of wrongdoing by the church surfaced well after that event and her main dole was to foster respect. let's discuss the big stakes here, jim axelrod and angela rai. i want to start with you, ax. you've been open tn the inside this process. when senator obama was picking joe biden as a running mate. was it like this? were you getting incoming publicly and privately from people trashing everybody? >> yeah, you know, listen this is the biggest part of the game in -- seasonal parlor game in washington, right?

the vp pick. it is important this time because biden is by many years going to be the oldest candidate to run for president. there say supposition this could be the nominee in 2024 and may god forbid be called into service befored interest in this pick there was a lot of jockeying. i'm not sure it was quite as public as this, and, you know, i suspect some candidates are behind some of the salvos against other candidates and so on. this is pretty intense. this is pretty intense right now. >> joe biden we break some glass. he might crack the glass ceiling twice here. when you see this -- the competition, the candidate have every right to try to say look at me, joe biden and then you see the attacks as david said, some most likely coming from

their friends, rivals at the moment. what do you make of it? >> well, several things. i think anytime you have a race that has ended the way in which this particular presidential race has, you're going to have this. the most important thing is you have a situation where i can't think of an election in my lifetime where a vice presidential pick was more serious, more important and so i think that, you know, at the end of the day, people will lobby for the position, when it seems like there is openings. the committee has yet to make any decision. they initially said this pick would be done by august 1st. i think the country needs to see who is going to be standing shoulder to shoulder with joe biden, there is so much doubt. there are a number of policy concerns. there is the democratic party ty

v divided around and the fact that joe biden has been fairly moderate throughout his legisla legislative career, but the reality is that joe biden has been seen as a moderate. he needs to demonstrate not just tie ver diversity with a woman of color, but also someone who can see policy different, particularly around criminal justice reform. i know a lot of women in the last few spots and i can't see them showing these kind of -- playing this type of dirty politics. >> sometimes politicians have staffs. you know that very well. >> i know the staff even better. >> okay. we'll see how that one plays out. there are grudges and rivalries. one of the most interesting things, republicans involved as well. there was a conference call yesterday with some florida

republicans, sometimes cube of politics plays among cuban-americans in florida. listen to this, this is marco rubio attacking congresswoman karen bass. >> we're talking about someone that as early as the 1970s was involved in this brigade of sympathizers, god forbid joe biden is elected president and karen bass is the vice president, she'll be the highest ranking castro sympathizer. >> this suggests that joe biden is being tugged so far left, he's out of mainstream. do you remember the other party trying to get involved? >> not to this degree. i think this reflects a karen

bass, congresswoman from california has moved up the list here and is being seriously considered. bass, the truth of the it is that bass was the speaker of the california assembly and she's known on the hill who is very skillful at working across party lines. she booked herself this morning on "mop the press," she know she's going to get questions. >> to that point, angela, joe biden said today, now we're told this week, by his staff next

week. that's helple. >> well, a few things, we know in the general election, everything is fair game. it is interesting that people could be so concerned about people being attacked, i didding through old baggage and all that. that's fascinating to me. marco rubio already played in that. that is only good for karen bass. and i think the most important thing is going back to the idea of staff, karen bass did not book herself on sunday shows. perhaps she had the help of staff. if she her staff did, that's good ambitious work. i ambitious, bold and

courageous, i want all of my communities to have that. >> david axelrod, appreciate you coming in. several days if not another week of this. maybe this conversation next sund sunday. the coronavirus is punishing economies of color especially when it comes to the back to school debate. [whispering] it's grilled cheese o'clock. and t-mobile doesn't just have a bigger network, but a better one than ever before, with scam protection built into its core. introducing, scamshield, free from t-mobile. get fewer scam calls. period. with t-mobile's supercharged network, you can say goodbye to annoying scam calls, and feel free to answer your phone again.

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the united states, 50 million children attend public schools. the answers depend where you live. of the largest school districts, 60 already plan to begin the new academic year all online. 17 right now give parents a choice, all online or all in person. 18 others have some form of a hybrid plan and six are still undecided including new york city. the disparities of remote learning are crystal clear, poorer children are less likely to the access vital to learning at home. lack and latino middle school students had a lower participation rate in virtual learning. with us is lisa smith of the education trust west. did school districts learn lessons from what happened on

the back end of school last year. you have technological disparities. have the lessons been learned so thing will be better come late september this year? >> thank you for having me, john. there have been some lessons learned and we have a ways to go, because there is so much disparity in how this is playing out this fall. what we heard from parents across california, students are still access iing devices. there are some places that are doing a really great job of thinking about that, other places that have a long ways to go. >> as we gao through this debate, 13,000 school districts, depends where you live, does the uncertainty add to the problem. if you're a parent and still don't know if yourle is district going to be all remote learning,

how much does the uncertainty complicate the already disparity issues? >> we know it is not helpful to the disparities that existed well before the coronavirus came to our shores. we know in schools that sbrn able to work with teacher a, they're going to be far more set up for success. schools are going to be able to need to connect with students on a social, emotional level and figure out where students are to figure out how to take students where we are this rnow to where need to be. >> have you seen a surge in the resources, whether it is getting meals to low students who otherwise would get them at

school. maybe they're home now. or getting some kind of mentorship. is there a surge force in place to help with these issues? >> we need more support from the federal government in states. one thing we know is to do school ways that look completely different, schools need new resources to do. so at the state level, across the country. > the students need the resources they need. >> lisa smith, appreciate your insights. let's continue this as more and more of your decisions are made. grateful for your work together. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. up next, more positive

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there are more postponements and high profile opt-out as the major league baseball tries to keep their shortened season on track. several scheduled disruptions scheduled by positive coronavirus tests in the miami marlins organization. enough for the lorenzo cain to opt out. he said it was just best to be at home with his family. the commissioner rob manfred said he is determine to keep the season on track but just ten days in the plans for a 60-game season there are some doubts. cnn coy wire is here with the latest. that is the big question, coy. are these just blips or do they have a problem? >> i told you how i talked to a player earlier this week saying

i don't know if we are going to make it and depending on so many people and teams are felling roster spots but the league pushes on. commissioner rob manfred told espn karl ravitch there is no reason to quit now. we have had to be fluid but it is manageable. mlb postponing that cardinals and brewers game yesterday hours before first pitch and postponing the double-header today after three cardinals players and three staffers have tested positive and three players deciding yesterday that they aren't going to play the rest of this season including as you mentioned gold glove outfielder for the bruins lorenzo cain and hitting at miller park two days ago. he said i'm done. he has a wife and three young kids and his teammate ryan braun saying this is anxiety for all of us as players.

marlins southboundman dough arizona and red sox pitcher eduardo rodriguez suffers from a heart issue. he chose to opt-out of the season. some good news of the miami marlins who have had 21 cases, reported no new positives for the first time since last weekend. mlb says that the two phillie staffers who initially tested positive had false positives. the league trying to get things under control. remember, mlb to bolster its safety protocols this past week with the outbreak in the marlins clubhouse and adding a compliance officer to each team making sure everybody is following rules. the bubble could be the answer. the national women's soccer league and mls and wnba and nba have had successful with zero positive players this past week. football around the corner, being in a bubble -- not in a bubble could wreak havoc on

their scheduling. >> i think we are doing this day-by-day. coy wire, we appreciate the latest there. see if they can keep this on track. that's it for "inside politics." catch us 11:00 a.m. and noon eastern during the week. . up next is "state of the unio.". we have many guests coming up. stay with us. hey, can i...

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