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i'll be back tomorrow in the situation room 5:00 p.m. eastern. united shades of america with w. kamau bell starts right now. when we filmed this episode of united shades of america in december 2019, there were already deep rooted inequities in the american education system. when the pandemic hit, schools closed and they had to quickly shift to online learning but many students and families did not have the resources to make that work. how can kids who don't have access to the computers or internet be expected to keep up? the pandemic also showed us how many families rely on schools to have food for the kids. the long term impact on our education system is still under clear but covid-19 has
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absolutely magnified the problems we heard about when making this episode. >> come sit down. thank you. >> what grade are you in? >> fourth. >> do you like fourth grade? >> i like your glasses. >> i like yours, too. >> do you want to try these on? >> what are your favorite subjects? >> i like her. she's always there for you. >> she makes learning fun. >> cute kids and amazing teachers. that's what this episode is all about. it won't be about how we fund schools or the achievement gap or how kids need help. nope. why would we talk about that? >> i don't think people understand how challenging our profession is. >> you've got to go no slow. >> we would call them lunch ladies. >> yeah, no. no. >> you were going to take that. >> okay.♪
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>> i used to hate lebron james. i'm a jordan guy. i live in the bay area. so i used to hate him. and then he went and did this. >> lebron james opening the i promise school in his home town. lebron says opening this school may be the greatest moment of his life. >> that's when i realized, maybe just sports hate him. for years i've known that public schools need help. i just never realized that help needed to come in the form of a generational athlete. why is that? what do schools who don't have lebron do?
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right now, there are 50.8 million students enrolled in u.s. public schools. those schools are not created equal. because the u.s. is one of the only developed nations to rely heavily on local property taxes to fund them. so this means a kid who lives if an economically depressed area gets less money and fewer resources than a kid who lives in a more affluent area which means a kid who needs more gets less. aka, the american way. public school if you saiding all across the u.s. comes from a combination of primarily state and local plus some federal resources. some states are poorer than others and some cities are poorer within those states. kids, that's called inequity. and don't get me wrong. money doesn't fix everything in schools because the u.s. has liberally sprinkled racism all over society which helps create
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a game in achievements. so i'm heading to ohio, east cleveland and shaker heights to see what a couple of public schools that don't have lebron are doing to close that gap. >> what did you eat for breakfast today? >> jonathan thomas is a bus monitor and a professional here in the east cleveland district. for the kids riding the bus, he is their first contact with school in the morning. he makes sure they have a good start to the day. >> oh, well! i drink all that milk, i'll be in trouble. >> and how long have you been working here? >> i've been working at this school, going on, this is my second year but i've been in the district seven years. >> did you go to school here? >> not here but i did go in the district. >> do you know these five people here? >> oh, yeah. this is my guy here, one of my helpers. >> nice to meet you. >> what grade is everybody in?
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>> second. >> sixth. >> kindergartenen. >> fifth. >> what grade are you in? >> i'm in fourth grade. [ laughter ] >> for the tenth time? what are your favorite classes? >> my favorite class, she really likes focused on you and tells you, get yourself together. >> my favorite part of school is the computer lab. when we go there on friday, we get to have free time. >> my favorite book is dinosaur -- dinosaur, always play time outside, do the park. we won't be hungry. >> yeah. in this house and he saw this light and so and -- >> [ laughter ] >> he has his own show.
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>> it doesn't matter how much money your school has, if you're hungry, your teacher can't be interesting enough and the school work can't be easy enough. the odds of achieving an above average test score can be twice as high for students who eat breakfast compared to those who don't. as families struggling financially know, it is a big part of feeding kids. the east district provides breakfast and lunch to all kids. >> is the food good? >> yeah. it's good. >> is that orange juice? >> do you want that? [ laughter ] you going to let that orange juice just hang out? >> i got a question. what is your favorite part of life? >> i have a job where i can travel around and talk to people and learn new things about everybody. that's my favorite part of life. >> and me?
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>> yes, of course. >> and me? >> i got five words to say. >> five words. okay. i'm going to count them. >> one. >> you say five words and i'll count them. >> one, two, three, four, five. >> okay. >> according to 24/7 wall street, east cleveland is one of the most will impoverished towns in america. it is connected to a wide range of social ills, lack of sleep, lack of heat, lack of food, parents working three jobs. these teachers try to clear out the bad stuff first thing in the morning and make way for the learning. who i am a kidding? i can use some clearing out, too. your computer? oh. >> good morning, staff and students. today is tuesday.
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>> i want to first say congratulations to my first graders. 100% of the first graders -- [ applause ] >> students, it's time for a mindful moment with some music. put your feet flat on the floor with your arms on your desk. let's listen and relax. ♪ take a deep breath in. exhale. >> the main purpose is for them
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to clear their minds and get into the learning zone. >> they have been teaching in the district for 27 years. >> i like that. so you're giving them a little buffer. >> right. exactly. and it also builds our classroom environment and gets the kids comfortable with each other and with us, and knowing that there is a safe place to share things. >> i want you to think about one thing, if there was one thing you could change that has happened so far from the time you woke up until right now. what would it be and tell me why? >> to help the kids get started, a talking stick is it's pad around. >> one thing i would change from when i went to sleep and now is my brother to stop snatching the cover off me because i be cold. >> i want my mother to have one job so she can come home early. >> my sister wake me up at 7:00. my mama get off work in the morning. >> i would have woke up my nana because i had come to school at
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at:30 and she elementary school in until 8:28 so i had to walk to school. >> one thing i would changecy wouldn't have spilled on my pants. >> we notice sometimes the kids just have something to say. when you start teaching, when you start teaching, what is on their mind is what they say to you. on my kids' mind is, i need to tell you this. it is about letting them clear their mind so they're ready for what we have to offer. >> we can still have a good day. check? check. okay. the next thing we'll do is, we're going to stand up, hands up, pair up. we're going to come up with a handshake this morning. are you ready? >> so what do we do? >> back in the day, it was like whatever is going on in your life, you leave at the door and you come in to learn. there was not a lot of talk
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about what's going on in your life. >> that was back in the day. now we're really looking at the whole child and realizing that whatever is happening in their life, you know, we help them deal with it. it really helps them function better. >> they're bringing their best selves. so we need to build upon that. >> right here. let's share right here. >> all right! >> today is a wonderful day! >> his partner. [ laughter ] t-mobile and sprint have merged. and t-mobile has a bigger and better network than ever before... with more towers, more engineers, and more coverage.
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♪ 18-year-old micah is a senior. his mom sees him off to school every morning. his dad is already at work. >> micah has agreed to let me walk with him to shaw high. apparently he can afford to lose the street cred. you grew up in this neighborhood? >> yeah. all my life. >> that same house? >> that same house. >> that's cool. how long is the walk? >> 10, 11 minutes. >> especially when it's cold out here. >> especially when it's cold out here. >> cleveland, ohio, is a city that attracted a lot of people. when they made their money some
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of them moved to the suburbs such as east cleveland. when the industrial good times stopped rolling, like they always do, the predominantly white suburb became predominantly black. why? because of what hit all the industrial midwest. east cleveland is also in cuyahoga county but it operates completely independently from nearby cleveland. it's a city worth 38.8% are living below the poverty line. as we all rebel back in the day, sub prime mortgages were handed out like mardi gras candy. then bubble burst. today many of the properties look abandoned. as many were. the population has dropped 48%. when those families left, a large chunk of the student population went with them but micah's family remained. >> has it changed? has it always looked like the? >> there's definitely been changes. >> somebody living here? >> no.
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i don't think so. >> tell me about shaw. what kind of school is it? who goes there? >> shaw is an interesting place. >> graduating coming up, right? i'm going on ask you a question, what happens after that in. >> i'll be going into the marine corps. >> you already signed up? >> yeah. >> what do you do in school? what are you into? >> automotive mechanics. and band. >> what do you do in band? >> i play trumpet. >> oh, okay. ♪ >> it's been just students that receive a report card. school districts do, too. after receiving an f on its
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record card for three straight years, the district was taken over. it was taken over by the state. >> is this the library? >> this is the library. henry is the state appointed ceo who has been brought into the east cleveland district. he's been given three years to turn it around. >> so i'll show you our culinary department. this is one of ten programs that we have at shaw high school to prepare kids for careers. it's not just about learning books and memorizing facts. we've got to get you some money. >> what are you doing? >> career and tech courses are a big part of his courses. i know what improving achievement, attendance and attracting more students through enrollment. >> we're trying to make sure it's better. we normally would have been 8,000 students in this building and there are about 700. so there is been a withdrawing from this community in terms of education. i'm here to try to bring that
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back. i want to take you also to one of our premier programs, our criminal justice program. where students are learning the basics of law enforcement, being a lawyer or being a police officer. this is the room where you get your basic training. >> jim is driving down the freeway where he spills his bag of skittles. he reaches down to get them. in doing so he he takes his eye off the road for eight seconds. he goes into a ditch and all three occupants are killed. what three crimes did he commit? >> he knew he could get somebody killed like that. >> yes. he knew. >> a person accidentally negligent because of a substantial lapse of due care he fails to that you are eve or avoid a risk. >> first of all, my blood pressure is high. i think that he should have been eating healthier food than skittles. can i ask why you all decided to take this class?
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>> i wanted to be a detective when i got older. >> i want to investigate dead bodies and do something different other than being a nurse. >> you watch murder shows, don't you? >> yeah. >> you're all wearing badges? do you wear those outside the classroom, too? >> of course. >> do you get any feedback from your fellow classmates about being cops? >> yeah. >> the badge is a proud thing. you walk around with a badge. yeah. that's me. >> how does it make you feel differently about law enforcement. >> the police pull you over and they won't tell you. why if i'm in this class, i know my rights, how to get out of this situation. >> you have to protect yourself. the best way to do that is knowledge. ? it's clear the students are working hard here but this is not the kind of hard work that we think about when we think about school. on the one hand, it's great that they can learn skills that will get them jobs that pay way more
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than minimum wage in high school. i truly do home some of them are able to save some money for their dream professions for college. >> i've been doing my own hair since i was in my mid 20s. >> is that the style you've been doing? >> yeah, i mean -- >> okay. >> remember, more affluent white students, this is not what high school looks like. no one is telling them to get adult job skills. they're allowed to learn something they may never use. they can afford to dream bigger. >> 200? >> yeah. >> we might have to go a little more. >> this jacket is pretty heavy. >> what does it say? >> 270. >> all right. well, you got an a plus on that. >> the program qualifies students to become state tested nursing assistants. i figured since i was here, might as well get a check-up. >> you're all here. you are healthy. >> do you take cash? what is about to happen?
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>> she's about to take your vital signs. i should be quiet. all my medical knowledge comes from gray's anatomy. >> good morning. i'm here for you today. >> it was good. i had trouble sleeping. >> these girls, they received their certification in may. >> you can start working as a nursing assistant and be in high school. >> oh, yeah. good! >> nursing is the best career. we can get jobs and most of our jobs pay between $11 to $15 an hour. >> people are surprised because of how young we are. me, i've always wanted to be a surgeon since i was younger. i see this as a head start to get ahead of the game. >> i feel like if you prepare and study, once you get it, you got it. >> is that the slogan? >> i don't know.
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. so tell me about the ride in here. what were you thinking about in. >> i was thinking, i haven't seen an 88 capri classic in a long time. and then as soon as we passed one, okay, i'm home. >> anthony abraham jack is an assistant professor at the
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harvard graduate school of education and author of the privileged poor. how elite colleges are affecting disadvantaged students. >> to understand where they're going, you have to know where they come from. what does it mean that a zip code can tell you so much more about where a child will end up than any other fact you can learn about that child. we need to know we need to understand not just the difference in test scores. we need to understand how inequality works in neighborhoods and schools. i was admitted to george washington carver middle school. an assistant principal saw me fooling around. she walked up to me and said you don't have the potential. >> that's not what you say. >> they created an award for the best student in the school my eighth grade year because of what i did and she had to hand it to me. >>. [ laughter ] >> that moment stuck with me. i felt like there was a tally. if i didn't make it, it was evidence that she was right.
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>> the fact that public education is funded by a tax base, that's hyper localized. yet we know the way in which economic opportunity was built into this country was highly racialized. we know the wait works and it has a ripple effect beyond where you live and who are your neighborhoods. so what to think about it comes the education. >> to me it feels like we should not have a public school disparity. if parents want to fund the school, that's fine but it shouldn't be the difference between a good school and a bad school. >> we see different funding. it is what the parents do. the way in which these very weird structured districts, like gerrymander ma'ams. >> like a side winder snake, right? >> what would happen if you said we won't do this. all the money goes into a pot and all the schools get something equal. >> yeah. >> we look at education reform
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we think about it in an experimental way can. this new trick work? can this theme work? we don't need to experiment west need to get serious about reforming it so we can work a lot of these problems. ♪ >> one thing is true. i have a lot of love and respect for teachers. because you know, a good teacher can change your life. you can see the difference a teacher can make, how hard it is, how thankless it is. i know some of you out there, you go, why are teachers striking? they just want more money? first they're always asking for things that then kids. smaller class sizes, more medical staff, safer schools. also, we all want more money. why do teachers need to be
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noble? you ain't noble. every even thor i've ever known goes above and beyond for their students. monique davis is no different. she probably needs to make her long day a little longer is a visit from me. >> well, hey! this is my classroom. >> my goodness. that's a dog? >> it is. >> i feel like you're animatronic. so tiny. >> i have students with intellectual disabilities. they are high school level but more than five years below their grade level academically. so we are working on life skills. so as you're learning math you can use in everyday life. >> how long have you been teaching? >> this is my 22nd year. >> really! i've known a lot of teachers in my life at all kinds of schools. but one thing that's consistent, they all at some appointment go into their pockets to support
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their classrooms. >> oh, yes. everything you see over there, i bought it. >> wow! your average person who maybe doesn't have kids in school sees teachers and goes, man, they got it easy. work starts at 8:00. this he get there at 7:55. it's over at 3:00. they get to go home, beat the traffic. >> i rarely make it home before it gets dark outside. most of us stay longer or come earlier so we can meet the needs of our kids. >> the east cleveland school district received $21,571 per student which sounds good. but security, food and special needs resources can take up between 30 and 40% of the budget. if a school has fewer of those needs, they can spend more of their needs on student education and enrichment. this is made worse by the fact that shaw high is operating at .1 of its xas.
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that means it costs more to educate fewer kids. that light bulb doesn't know the school is 90% empty. >> my colleagues and i like teachers in low income communities everywhere, we saw our students going without the books and art supplies and equipment. i figured there were people out there who want to help teachers like us if they could see where the money was going. >> anyone who follows me on twitter knows i have a lot about helping teachers. it is for what school districts can't or won't provide. it is the brain child of this teacher. >> that does seem to be the secret sauce. you're not just donating to a teacher or a school. the secret sauce is i like that book. i want people to have that book. i used to play tuba. i want kids to play tuba. >> you can search for a favorite author, a sport in high school. >> oprah discovered what we were
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up in to 2003. >> good point. >> nice of you to take pity on me. talk to oprah. >> you know, i think there are a lot of crowd funding sites. there's something about the fact that you know this has been vetted through the process. it feels much more like you can see what's happening. >> that's right. authentic ate each project. we are by the books having them delivered. we're paying the bus company that's taking the kids on the field trip. >> there is a common refrain that people. how come the. at a dollars are not getting what these teachers need? there has to be a better way. i'm trying to put you out of work. >> do you know where we want to be put out of work? for had a half of projects on our site that ask for fundamental stuff that is a bit of an injustice. the people who give to projects on our site. 60% of them say the experience on our site has made them more
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interested in proving the system itself. that can be more energizing than reading statistics in a newspaper about school underfunding. >> in hollywood, there is a history of white people saving public schools. who plays you in the movie? matt damon or lenardo decamarillo? >> no. we would like to say we have things built into our program model to discourage the savior complex. >> all right. good job. (groans) hmph... (food grunting menacingly) when the food you love doesn't love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast with tums smoothies. ♪ tum tum-tum tum tums with tums smoothies. you've been avoiding. like people... and pants.ings
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go to school, get a job, a second job. i'm in austin, texas, to see how it all works and how it doesn't. >> how many hours a week are you
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doing it? >> just a hustle. >> on an average day, sleep two hours? >> the basic struggle of our time is about whether we can have a system where everybody can do wel
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shaker heights is another suburb of cleveland. it's about five miles away. you can tell from the trees. we age in east cleveland anymore. an affluent community, shaker heights was create at the height of the industrial rise as a suburban he is came from the big city. when black folks started moving into the area, it looked like shaker heights was about to go through same there goes the neighborhood as east cleveland. when a bomb exploded at a house, a new black resident, a
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community association came together and worked hard to integrate the city and then the schools. voluntary busing followed and today this district is 50% black students and 39% white students. over the years, home owners in the city have continuously voted for extra property. at a levies to support their schools. if a community is known by the schools it keeps, by the looks of it, this community is doing just fine. >> racism. >> i moved around a lot as a kid. me and my mom did. she was a black lady with opinions so we had to move a lot. i went to all kinds of schools, public schools, private schools, subsequently i had wildly different experiences. i would be in like a private school where i was basically like an average student. and then i would go to like public school and i was suddenly like a gifted student. so i was always aware, i'm not
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changing. the system that i'm in was changing. >> i remember one time, i was in catholic school in mobile, alabama, and i was on track one. [ bell ringing ] >> lunch time in the senior lounge when the smells of food mixed with pheremomes makes it awkward. >> do you know who i am? >> i looked you up five minutes ago. >> you're a senior? you can't be in here unless you're a senior. >> that's a "friends" shirt you're in. >> yes. i like old tv shows. >> old tv shows? like the old classics? >> uh-huh. >> okay. >> so tell me about life here in the school. >> i love it. >> it's cool.
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i'm in and out. >> give me a lot of time. i'll trying to enjoy life as a kid. >> what are you in in. >> in eurasia. >> criminology classes? there's core classes -- >> honors classes and ap. >> don't want to be bored. >> don't want to be bored. >> there's a planetarium here. >> there is a planetarium in the school? >> yeah. >> that's cool. would you recommend people come to this high school? >> yeah. we still have to get an education. we are just like the people in here. >> we're still working on integrating people together but i think diversity as well. we're one of the most diverse schools there is. >> i feel like there can be more inclusion with the races. like you look around the calf tear. i can't the black kid sitting there and the white kid over there. >> our school has tried to organize activity that's promote interactions between different groups of people. score is our biggest example of
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that. student grip on race relations. >> everybody wants to be in that club? >> everybody wants to be in score. >> shaker heights has continually grappled with racism especially since a report in 19 never found that the mix as a student body, there was still a huge achievement gap between black and white students. >> black teachers did not push me. they told me i was not good enough to be in honors. >> the majority of white students at shaker high still take higher achieving classes. while the majority of black students are found in less demanding college prem courses. the student group on race relations was found in 1983. they use free periods to discuss racial inequities and to figure out how and why the best efforts, they still exist. >> are any of you familiar with the "washington post" article in 30% of african-american
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kindergartners are said to be on track. 84% of whites are said to be on track. in nine grade, 50% african-americans cleveland it and 95% of white students do. and then lastly, 11th graders who are in at least one ap or ip course. 68% for white students. >> no person is innately smarter than someone else. yet this exists. i think something to keep in mind is, when you do choose your classes in february, it is open enrollment. your guidelines counsellor, your teacher, your parents might say why are you taking this class? the only response you need to have and give them is because i want to. >> so if we could line up behind this first piece of payment here -- >> so read it out loud. >> are you in any only hads or enriched classes in school? >> if he says yes, he goes that way. >> as soon as someone answers the first question, the next person can go. >> the score members designed a
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flow chart that gets students to question what's stopping them from taking more rigorous classes when they're open to everyone. >> are you in any only hads enrich classes in school? >> as a school, you had to be an enriched kid to be in. there was i ever encouraged to take the classes? not really. what is pre investmenting me from taking them now? probably that i have three kids. just really busy. so what is your experience of school here in. >> i experience with the achievement gap has been, it's made classes very, i feel very isolated. i felt like a really intense pressure to defy expectations. >> whose expectations? >> i go into every situation thinking everyone has a low standard for me. >> how big of an issue there is, there isn't enough effort put into it. >> people need to talk about it more. >> do you feel like the administration, the teachers, are they bothered by it?
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did they talk about it? >> i think -- >> i like your answer. >> i know some teachers who are very vocal about it, they've made sure that i'm aware that they care. i'm really happy that i went here. and i feel like if i went somewhere else, i wouldn't even have a community that gives as you platform to talk about something this important. >> whatever is happening, one thing is you're being encouraged to work on this yourselves and have access to speak out about this which is not the way it is in a lot of schools. so something is going. something is good. in our softest, smoothest fabric. she's confident, protected, her strength respected. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. she's confident, protected, her stwe see you.ected. doing your part by looking out...for all of us. and though you may have lost sight of your own well-being,
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they recognize that even in a school this kid, black students need more support. >> we bring confidence to the meeting. these are underclassmen. they look up to you. try to find ways to relate to the person you are leading other than being african-american. >> you should hold yourself and your fellow members to a higher standard. >> this is a program that started from students who said let us talk to these young kids. they're not going to listen to their teachers, but they will listen to us. >> they will listen to their parents. >> tracy williams is a mac sister adviser. >> most people look at this school from the outside. it is nicely manicured. you would imagine that if you just got through these doors that everybody is going to be fine. and that's not true. >> my mind set was let's make it cool to be successful, to be
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academically sound, to do what you are supposed to do and elevate. >> i mean, i remember when i was in school and i did feel sometimes like it wasn't cool to be smart. so i certainly understand that pressure sometimes, especially among black men about how do you excel and still feel like a member of the community. >> even back in seventh and eighth grade, you were being a clown or worried about being cool, you can come here and reset and learn how to be a successful student. >> i would imagine that from the outside, some people could look at this and think of it as what we call respectability politics. you know, the idea that we have to behave a certain way to get the approval of the, quote, unquote, the white man. >> the fact of the matter is you only have one opportunity to make a first impression. and, so, you can think about how the world should be, but you
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also have to teach them how to get along in the world as it is. >> and not to say that i'm not who i am, but i want to be successful, and this is what is viewed as a successful individual. >> so i guess my last question is, is it too late for me to apply? >> i thought you already filled out paperwork. >> at shaker high, the focus doesn't have to be on after school jobs and high wages. they can focus on after school clubs with fun. there are 87 of them. 87 ways to look well rounded on a college application. it says a lot about a school when they have the space and time for an esports club. also 50-year-old me is jealous. >> you are going to move your guy around at this one. >> the german teacher by day, esports manager by afternoon.
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>> this is a general attack. >> and we're fighting? >> yeah. >> but we just met. >> and because of copyright and lawyers, i can't show you what we're playing or even tell you. but here is a closeup of my nose. >> yeah! oh! >> hit something! there we go. >> that's game. >> good game, though. >> i didn't even know what's happening. >> yeah. what matters is that you're having fun. >> officially this club has been going on for two years now. >> we founded this team. it started as a social gaming club. >> how was it at convincing the school? >> at first i don't think they initially knew. >> now we're playing five days a week. >> oh, my god.
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>> the big part about this is the scholarships. >> into college? >> yeah. it's becoming more and more a part of the college experience. >> i was surprised to see when we were at the tournament there were college scouts there that were watching the kids play. >> really? because when i went to college there was a lot of video game playing, but no one was getting a scholarship for it. >> times are really changing. >> did i just lose? at least that's consistent. >> i'm going to go home and practice. >> yeah. let's do another one. ""united shades of america," brought to you by dominos. order online and track your order. "united shades of americ" brought to you by dominos. order online and track your order. "united shades of america brought to you by dominos. order online and track your order. hey lily from at&t here.
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my last stop is the high school teacher's house. >> this is my get up in here. >> oh, wow. this is what empty nest syndrome gets you one of these. how did you get interested in making wine? >> it was a mother's day present. so we're going to mix. next we're going to add the juice. follow me. >> okay.
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>> so now you want to taste some wine? >> yeah. >> okay. you ready for your next one? so this is blueberry. >> oh, it's got like a little how you doing in it? this one is like invite your friends over. this one is like drink alone. >> so this is what i do. >> it is such a specific and intense and sort of like complicated hobby to have. >> uh-huh, but it is rewarding at the end because the result is bottles of wine that you can share with people you care about. >> so do you ever do -- is everything okay over there, buddy? >> i wonder why! i wonder why? >> he hasn't even had that much. >> eight wines come out and then have a conversation about the
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public schools of america. >> so if i gave you all the power over time and space, how would you address the public school system in this country? >> gosh. that's such a tall order because it would be unique to every community. you can't just fix the kids. you have to fix the whole situation that they live in and breathe every day. so fix the community. provide after school activities for kids to do. money is great, yes. the quality and funding would be awesome. >> a lot of people who look at public schools are like, why should my taxes pay for public schools. i don't have kids in public schools. >> if we don't educate our young generation, then what does that generation become? because if you don't have a young generation, what do you do for income? what do you do to maintain a life? you can pay for a student in two ways. you can pay for their education now or you can pay for
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incarceration later. >> thanks. i think you just ended the whole show. new hot spots. trouble and signs in more states as coronavirus cases rise in the midwest and new data raise alarm bells about how children are affected. >> give back by wearing a mask, by socially distancing. >> what should americans expect this fall? i'll speak to the white house coronavirus response coordinator dr. deborah birx and arkansas governor asa hutchinson next. pay cut. the unemployment benefit helping americans stay afloat expires. is congress close to a deal. house majority whip jim clyburn joins me to discuss.

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