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americans safe. ominous warnings from a top member of the white house coronavirus task force. she says the u.s. has reached a new phase of the pandemic. >> i want to be very clear. what we're seeing today is different from march and april. it is extraordinarily widespread. it's into the rural as equal urban areas. and to everybody who lives in a rural area, you are not immune or presented from this virus. and that's why we keep saying no matter where you live in america, you need to wear a mask and socially distance. >> now while the number of infections in 27 states has plateaued, the overall figures are still very high. the u.s. centers for disease control and prevention projects

another 19,000 deaths in just the next three weeks. now, we can often get overwhelmed by statistics, but listen to this. covid-19 has killed about 1,000 americans every day for almost a week. florida and california in red remain the most dangerous hot spots. they're seeing a sharp and steady rise in new infections. and we could see a fresh spike in florida in the coming day. testing sites closed due to tropical storm isaias are slated to reopen. president trump, meanwhile, who has long downplayed the severity of the pandemic spent the day playing another round of maskless golf, and that was his 284th visit to one of his golf clubs since taking office. the president has chosen much rosier terms to describe the state of the pandemic than his top experts. jeremy diamond shows us the mixed messages. >> reporter: well, in recent days, we have watched as president trump has continued to downplay the severity of the

coronavirus, falsely claiming time and again that the rising cases that we are seeing in the u.s. is due to an increase in testing, and the president also continuing to hock hydroxychloroquine, that drug that has been proved in multiple studies to be an ineffective treatment for coronavirus, but the message that we are hearing from the public health experts within this very same administration is very, very different, including the message we heard on sunday from dr. deborah birx, the white house coronavirus task force coordinator. she made clear this epidemic in the united states currently is extremely widespread, making clear that it's not just happening in the urban areas where we saw the early days of this pandemic, but also in rural communities. and she gave a message specifically to those rural communities encouraging them to practice those mitigation efforts. listen to her warning about the seriousness of the situation in the united states. >> we are in a new phase, and that's why i really wanted to make it clear to the american people, it's why we started putting out governor reports

directly to the governors and health officials in each state because we could see each thing had to be tailored. this epidemic is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban. >> reporter: now, dr. birx did say that she is seeing something that is, quote, a bit reassuring and that is the notion that it appears cases in the west and the south may be beginning to plateau or even decline, saying it seems those mitigation efforts that have been put in place in some of those states are working, but she is also making clear that the states that are beginning to see even slight increases in their test positivity rate, for example, need to immediately begin to slow down their reopening plans and implement those mitigation efforts. jeremy diamond, cnn, the white house. hurricane watchs are being issued for parts of the carolinas as tropical storm isaias is projected to make landfall there in the coming days.

isaias is piling on problems to coronavirus-stricken florida. it's bringing heavy wind, rain and tough tides to the state's atlantic coasts. but meteorologists say by the time the storm makes landfall it could restrengthen and become a hurricane again. meteorologist pedram javaheri joins us with more. you've been watching this. what's the latest? >> hey, kim. coming in here the latest update at 2:00 a.m. from the national hurricane center talking about this being potentially a category 1 hurricane with the next 24 hours. of course when you look at a storm system of this magnitude, sits about 65 miles or so off the coast of cape canaveral. certainly has the potential to strengthen because the gulf stream just north of this particular region. watch this. the steering environment here, a jet stream that is wanting to force the system off towards the east and an area of high pressure that is nudging it back toward the west. put this together here, of course, this system will parallel the coastline. we think the best time for landfall would be somewhere

around 24 hours from now, the early morning hours of tuesday. into areas of myrtle beach and eventually on into parts of southern north carolina. as a strong state your name or a weak hurricane. the storm surge threat going to be significant and the strong winds on the immediate coast, of course, could cause some coastal buchnevich erosion as well. you'll notice by tuesday night into wednesday morning, this parks just off the coast of long island, even around new york city. could still be a tropical storm. so we'll watch this carefully and then beyond that, we see the it lose its tropical characterives as it moves into the canadian maritimes. you've got to keep in mind, monday is the astronomical high tide when it comes to a full moon being in place. so we factor in a 2 to 4-foot storm surge on into charleston on top of it being the astronomical high tide into the evening hours of monday into this region. charleston right at 9:00 p.m. could be about 6 1/4 feet, while in wilmington, about 5 feet at

10:30 p.m. so you tack on 2 to 4 feet on top of that. flooding almost certainly going to take place there in historic downtown charleston this time tomorrow when the storm system closes in on land. the heaviest rainfall forecast to be across this region could see as much as 2 to 4 inches come down before things improve. when you factor in the heavy rainfall, the gusty winds that could be upwards of 70 miles per hour that, of course, brings trees down, and we know power outages, the forecast for that remains widespread into much of the state of new jersey, even into areas including new york city. so, kim, if we get power outages across this region with these strong winds, whether it be tomorrow night or into tuesday night, this could be a big story here because, of course, the pandemic slows any sort of restoration of power across these areas. we'll watch this carefully moving forward. >> yeah, as you say, so many calamities converging there. thanks so much, pedram. and on the other side of the u.s. where the pandemic is also

raging, they're dealing with a wildfire. more than 7,000 people have been driven from their homes in southern california due to this. the urs forest service says the so-called apple fire has scorched more than 20,000 acres are 8,000 hectares. california has the nation's highest number of covid-19 cases and the evacuation centers are requiring masks and social distancing. so for more on this, let's bring in lisa cox. she's the fire information officer for the san bernardino national forest. thanks so much for taking the time in a very busy time there to join us. i understand earlier you weren't exactly able to tell how big it is. but you know it's big. you know it's spreading and fairly fast. what's the latest? >> yeah, the fire has made significant growth today. we do know that it grew. we just need to do an overnight flight tonight to get an infrared image where exactly the fire has gone today.

it mostly grew in the northern and southeasterly portions or flanks of the fire. >> all right. so, you know, as a reporter who used to be based in los angeles, i've covered plenty of fires in that region. i know how tough the terrain makes it. how big a factor is it in this fire? >> yeah, so, we have about five factors all kind of coming together here on this fire. so the number one being, as you just referred to, is the terrain. we've got extremely steep, rugged terrain. we have many different drainages that are all kind of intersecting together, and that creates this -- these funneling effects of different wind patterns and creates more erratic fire behavior. and with that we have very thick brush, including this really flammable ecosystem called chapparral that likes to burn and it hasn't burned here in a long time. we don't have a lot of fire history in the area. >> mm-hmm. now, with the pictures we're seeing there, we're seeing these very strong smoke columns from the fire. quite spectacular.

you can actually see them through much of southern california. how much harder does it make to fight the fire? >> yeah, so, yesterday was a prime example of what happens when fire makes its own weather. and we saw a little bit more of that today, but it was really evident yesterday because of that cumulus cloud that appeared above the fire at several thousand feet, tens of thousands of feet. it could actually be seen from chinatown in los angeles. so when that happens, it's when all those factors come together, fuel, slope, alignment, wind, low humidities, high temperatures, and gusty winds, they all come together, and once the fire gets ahead on that with the thick, thick chapparral brush, it creates its own weather system and it actually creates this updraft of smoke, ash and flame, and it creates this huge cloud and has a downdraft that actually spreads

out in all 360 directions and creates additional issues across the fire line called spotting. >> speaking of additional issues, a fire is hard enough during a pandemic. how does covid affect the firefighters efforts and also the residents who may have to evacuate and take shelter? >> yeah, so worldwide pandemic, that a whole another layer of challenges that firefighters and residents are already dealing with. but so far, we've had no injuries on the fire and that's great news. so, so far, i can say we're doing pretty well, fairing pretty well, and with all the protective measures that we're taking, things are -- things are going great. >> all right. well, good luck out there. thanks so much for joining us. lisa cox with the san bernardino national forest. we appreciate your time. >> no problem. thank you for having me. >> all right. well, president trump puts a failed defense department pick in a new role. so we'll find out what democrats in the u.s. congress have to say about it. and microsoft says it's still in talks to buy tiktok.

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of tiktok. that follows president trump's threat friday to ban the popular video app from operating in the u.s. tiktok is owned by a chance start-up. sunday secretary of state mike pompeo repeated the administration's security concerns about tiktok and other chinese software companies. pompeo wouldn't say whether a microsoft purchase would ease those misgivings. eleni giokos is in johannesburg, south africa to analyze this. first off, let's back up a bit. i mean, does this signal that the trump administration may be backing off its threat to ban tiktok? >> yeah, i mean, look, this is going to be a big game-changer and a big move for microsoft, and, of course, the trump administration. you've got to keep in mind that president trump had flirted the idea of banning tiktok in the past. then on friday saying that he's willing to activate executive orders to do so. and then we heard that microsoft is currently in acquisition talks with tiktok, looking to purchase its u.s./canadian/australian, as well as operations in new

zealand. now, we don't know whether this would actually change the trump administration's view, but what we do know is that the banning of tiktok in the u.s. while microsoft is having acquisition talks with tiktok certainly could derail discussions. in the meantime, we know microsoft wants to have some kind of speedy resolution to this. talking about the 15th of september. that is an interesting move. it's all about national security here. a u.s.-based company giants like microsoft wanting to buy a chinese-owned company could, of course, move the needle here. and, remember, that a chinese-owned company would have to acquiesce to any requests by the chinese government to hand over data. that's where the national security issue comes in. bytedance, which is, of course, the parent company of tiktok, came out with a statement over the weekend in saying that it's committed to becoming a global company and in this process, we are faced with all kinds of complex and unimaginable difficulties, including a tense international political environment. we still adhere to the vision of

globalization and continue to increase investments in markets around the world, including china, to create value for users around the world. also important to note that the tiktok ceo is a former disney executive. wanted to show that it has nothing to hide. that it's playing open cards here, but, remember that this isn't a problem only endemic to the united states wanting to ban tiktok. its biggest market, china of course, is an important market, but then it was india. and india banned tiktok. australia has cited concerns about national security. so too has south korea. so it will be an interesting one to look at because around 2 billion people have downloaded the application. in the u.s., 172 million people. >> wow. all right. well, listen, we'll follow this story with great interest. thank you so much, eleni giokos in joburg, appreciate it. the trump administration is placing a controversial pentagon pick into another similar role, even after his nomination

failed. retired general anthony tata was president trump's choice for a top defense post, but his nomination hearing on thursday was cancelled amid bipartisan opposition. cnn's ryan brown explains. >> reporter: retired brigadier general anthony tata has been put into a senior policy post at the pentagon despite his nomination for another post collapsing last week under senate scrutiny. now, tata had made controversial comments unearthed by cnn's "k" file team on a wide range of issues, accusing a former cia director of plotting to kill president trump, calling president obama a terrorist leader, and making comments that many viewed as islamophobic. now, tata has been working as a senior adviser at the pentagon since april. the details of that role have not been revealed. the pentagon has declined to offer any details about what he's actually been doing, but he will now be placed into a position that is normally senate

confirmed. now, he is on a temporary technically acting basis, but the move has been slammed by democrats on capitol hill. with the top democrat on the senate armed service committee saying that the efforts to skirt their confirmation process were destabilizing, and an insult to u.s. troops and the american people. ryan brown, cnn, washington. u.s. lawmakers and white house officials will resume negotiations in the coming hours to try to agree on another stimulus plan. now, key sticking point is the extension of the $600 weekly unemployment benefit that expired last week. republicans see it as a disincentive for some americans to go back to work and they want to cut it to $200 a week and they want states to move toward benefits based on a percentage of a worker's wages. >> the fact is they put on the floor the end of this week in the senate $200. so when you say, well, you aren't going to do the $600 they

have no support for that in their party. we are unified in our support for the $600. they are in disarray. >> mark meadows and i will be back there every day until we reach an agreement. we understand there's a need to compromise, but on the other hand, there's also a big need to get kids into school, get people back to jobs, and keep the economy open and keep people safe. >> now, for many americans, that $600 weekly bonus benefit was vital. it helped pay the rent, and with some eviction moratoriums ending, they worry that could end up putting them out on the streets. paul vercammen has one family's story. >> reporter: tension on the streets of los angeles this weekend. economic worry. people wondering how they're going to make ends meet. the $600 supplemental paycheck from the federal government gone and looming on the horizon, how to pay rent or make up for rent

that has not been paid? there is a moratorium on evictions in the city of los angeles, but in the state, some other eviction moratoriums may go away soon. we talked to the alvarez family. they haven't been able to pay rent in three months and they are greatly concerned about what's going to happen down the road when someone comes to collect that rent check. >> we need real help to cancel the rent because it's -- because we live with the pressure that we can't pay the rent. as soon as this is over, i know they want us to repay the month we didn't pay. how are we supposed to do that when we can barely make for the month we're living in? >> reporter: but also at play here, landlords, many in southern california relying on rental income to make their living. one community activist said this is all such a double-edged sword. >> what we need to do is we need to not only explore, but we need to act boldly to be able to put

programs in place that will not only protect the renters, but also the landlords. we understand that. most of the renters that i speak with, if not all of them, you know, they want to pay their rents, but if that's not happening, you know, again, the landlords will also suffer, especially the mom and pop landlords, and that worries me a lot. >> reporter: and there are a number of bills working their way through the legislature that could give relief to both landlords as well as renters. stay tuned on that. california reckoning with both the covid-19 pandemic and its very serious consequences on health as well as all of these economic woes. reporting from los angeles, i'm paul vercammen, now back to you. melbourne, australia is under a very strict curfew right now. so we'll ask a local mayor about efforts to contain the latest coronavirus outbreak. and they're the heros of the pandemic. nurses who run toward danger as they battle the deadly virus. we'll have some of their stories

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welcome back to you, our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm kim brunhuber and this is "cnn newsroom." the government in melbourne, australia is ordering all nonessential businesses to close amid a lockdown to contain the coronavirus. all businesses forced to shut down will be eligible for a $35,000 grant. a state of disaster was declared in victoria sunday after the state reported almost 700 cases of the virus. other restrictions included an

overnight curfew in melbourne and the end of pretty much all recreational activity. cnn's anna core inn is live for hong kong. how did it come to this? another lockdown. >> yeah, the strictest lockdown of its kind in australian history, certainly in australian peace time. you have to remember, kim, that victorians, melbournians, 5 million of them, have been under lockdown for the last four weeks, stage iii restrictions. well, as of last night they are now under stage iv restrictions. that means that there is a curfew in place from 8:00 p.m. through to 5:00 a.m. for the next six weeks. only one person from each household can go out for one hour a day to get groceries within 5 kilometers from where they live. schools have been shut. child care has been cut. and businesses, nonessential businesses has been shut.

the victorian premier general is making the announcement that nonessential businesses will be shut for the next six weeks. he said that there will be substantial pain, but this is what needs to happen to get this crisis under control. you ask him how this all began, this second stage, second wave in victoria. well, it all began when security guards who were manning a government hotel quarantine facility interacted with guests who had traveled from overseas, australians returning to australia, and obviously they were covid positive. so this is how it has then really spread like wildfire. through the city of melbourne. which, of course, is the capital of victoria. australia's second largest city.

and as i said, home to 5 million people. well, for the next six weeks, they are going to be stuck at home. for those who can work from home, only essential workers are allowed to go to work. but the premier said they have no other option, that they need to impose these halrsh, strict measures to bring the numbers down. we have to remember, the number of deaths which have been escalating every day, the majority of them, kim, are in aged care facilities. >> all right. thank you so much, anna coren in hong kong. let's bring in the mayor of port phillip, close to downtown melbourne. thank you very much for joining us. we really appreciate it. so victoria springer said this new lockdown was necessary because otherwise stage thriii restrictions would have to last for six months. your city has beaches, lots of entertainment venues which is harder on your community, a shorter, hard lockdown or a

longer, slightly less onerous one? >> hi, kim, and it's great to be with you on your program. in my opinion, this action is really necessary, but it is difficult. it is the harshest and the strictest we've ever experienced. and as of last night, we went into stage iv lockdown. so only one hour outside exercise per day. and as a municipality, i'm really worried for many in our community. >> well, i mean, it must just be utterly demoralizing to go through all of this again. here in the u.s., some people have floated the idea of reimposing another strict lockdown like you're doing there. i think there would be a full-scale revolt. people there must be fed up. do you expect more resistance this time, and how do you as mayor convince your residents this is necessary? >> well, for me, it's all about respecting those who are putting themselves out there in harm's way in looking after those people with covid-19. and we need to make sure that we do the right thing for them.

but also what we need to do as a municipality is ramp up the support that we need to offer many in our community, such as delivering food through our community grids. food, the basics for our -- the essentials for our community is what's most on my mind at the moment, but i am looking a little forward after we're going through this very difficult time about -- with this psychological issues that are going to come out of it that i'm already seeing, as well as needing financial counselling. so there are some things there that really need to be looked at. >> one of those things is, you know, child care as well. you know, obviously no schools, child care severely restricted. you know, this is a huge piece of this lockdown that will hit people really hard. how are you dealing with that? >> that's right. so all schools are now back to remote learning again. and so that's as of thursday this week. i think most people would find that okay, but those with

younger children and the -- and those with children in the final years, i think, will find that extremely difficult. but child care is the latest casualty that hasn't been imposed before. so only essential workers, only those in the health care industry, for example, can have their kids at child care. everyone else needs to have them at home. which also impacts those who need to work. so it is really difficult, but as i said earlier, it's really necessary. we need to kick this covid down the road and it's not to come back. so it's really with a heavy heart that we say we have to protect our most vulnerable in our community and make sure that we do this once and we do this well. >> but, you know, if these stage iii restrictions, you know, clearly didn't work, are you confident these new ones will? >> well, in stage iii there were many that were flouting the restrictions. for example, our skate parks, you know, are well-loved.

and we had them fenced and there were still kids -- not only kids, people in their 30s, for example, jumping the fence and continuing to use them, even though they were restricted use. so there were many things still occurring. people getting too close to each other. families, reunions, that sort of thing. they're all off the table. hopefully people stay at home and do the right thing. people will continue to flout the rules but, you know, nothing is foolproof, but i do think the more we limit people's ability to do these things, the more successful it will be. >> you know, this was just announced yesterday. people were -- have flouted the rules before. i know it's early, but is there any evidence that people are adhering to the rules or are you already seeing people sort of, you know, ignore some of this? >> to be frank, i haven't been outside my home today. but what i have seen on social media and what people have --

have told me, and i get a lot of people telling me things, what's going on. there are still that are flouting the rules, but mostly it's around getting access to supermarkets. too many people are still going into the supermarkets trying to buy things in bulk. but i think that will ease. you know, my street at the front of my house has been totally quiet. there's been cats and things sitting in the middle of the road. so that just tells you that's not normal. so it's only day one and we have six weeks to go. and i'm sure that the covid will, you know, decrease. >> all right. well, we wish you all the best of luck over there. thank you so much for spending the time talking to us. we appreciate it. >> thank you, kim. >> that's byrthe mayor of port phillip near melbourne. philippine president rodrigo duterte says he's reimposing coronavirus restrictions in some areas starting tuesday. the country now more than

100,000 confirmed cases. the new restrictions will cover the capital of manila and nearby provinces. anyone 21 or 60 and over or have health risks have to stay home. the only exceptions, buying essentials and going to work. more than 2,000 people in the philippines have died from the virus. now, turning to brazil, the coronavirus death toll there is quickly approaching 100,000 people, but the president there is still downplaying the severity of the pandemic. look at this. on sunday he was seen riding his motorcycle in public without a mask. he didn't wear one during an exchange with reporters, although he later removed it. his defiant stance comes after even after his wife and two ministers tested positive for the virus last week. now on their own and abandoned by their ally, coming up, a look at how the kurds on the turkish/syrian border are fairing since the americans left and turkish forces moved in. stay with us. . or cold? introducing the new sleep number 360 smart bed...

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nine months ago u.s. president donald trump abruptly abandoned kurdish allies of the u.s. on the turkish/syrian border. now without u.s. support, the kurds are largely left to fend for themselves against turkish forces. cnn's arwa damon has a powerful piece updating the situation there. >> reporter: you see that smoke? that's from our feels, this man says, resigned and sorrowful. it's hardly the first time that turkey has launched strikes in the kurdish semiautonomous region of northern iraq, targeting the kurdish separatist group, the pkk strongholds in the harsh mountain terrain. amir lived in a small village nearby, fleeing with his family in the middle of the night. his elderly mother shows us how she used to shake with fear. for decades the turkish state

has been at war with the pkk, designated a terrorist organization. not just by turkey, but also the eu and the united states. this is the largest air and ground offensive since the 1990s. turkey says it's just trying to protect its borders and stop the kurdish pkk fighters from moving into syria. in october of last year, turkey invaded neighboring northern syria, going after a related kurdish group called the ypg, a sister organization to the pkk. what makes the situation so thorny is that the kurdish force turkey attacked in syria makes up the bulk of the fighting forces partnering with the u.s. in the battles against isis. the americans abandoned their kurdish allies, withdrawing from key positions. the turks swept in. tens of thousands of civilians fled. today turkey still occupies the border region, carrying out

joint patrols with the russians and the americans. >> with the presence of different forces comes the complication of the need to deal with each one of them separately, which each of them also has its own interests, its own goals. >> reporter: when it comes to the u.s. it's all about isis. they frequently tout their partnership fighting isis with the kurdish ypg as part of the syrian democratic forces. >> and i want to describe how we are partnering with the sdf. the current threat from isis. and let you know of some other areas, some other topics where we are collaborating to help the people of this region. >> reporter: and yet when the kurds need big brother america, or for that matter anyone to step in and help them, all remain on the sidelines.

in northern iraq, amir's beloved farmlands are charred, destroyed. his children miss running around outside in the cool breeze. blame is shared, he says. our government can't do anything in the face of turkey or the pkk. countries need to get involved. it can't go on like this. but it will, as it always has. the kurds have a proverb that arose from their history of betrayal and abandonment. no friend but the mountains, they say. arwa damon, cnn, istanbul. >> we'll be right back. having dry skin is a struggle.

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splash down. >> as you can see on your screen -- >> what an amazing sight. this was the scene sunday as spacex's crew dragon spacecraft safely splashed down in the gulf of mexico. two nasa astronauts emerged from the craft, providing the first-ever manned commercial flight to the international space station a success. spacex is planning more missions like this in what's being hailed as a new era in space flight. well, we all know doctors and nurses are the heros of the coronavirus pandemic.

especially those who are answering the call to help in covid-19 hot spots as the u.s. struggles with the deadly virus. tara is a retired nurse who volunteered to lend a helping hand. mike galanos has her story. >> i was sitting there watching the tv and i just thought, i could help. i feel like this is my 9/11. >> reporter: that's how tara felt as she watched the covid pandemic tighten its grip on the nation back in march. then this retired nurse heard new york's governor pleading for help. >> we need more nurses and doctors. as i said, we're going back to the retired nurses and doctors. >> reporter: she retired from nursing 14 years ago, but says at that moment she felt an urgent sense of duty to answer. >> i'm always the one that wants to run the opposite way everyone's running. i just instinctively want to go and i think nurses are that way. >> reporter: tara then told her husband what had been stirring inside of her. >> my first reaction was i was

proud of her. she probably didn't see herself that way. when you talk to my parents or brothers or the kids, they all know she was meant to go and dive into something like this. >> reporter: so tara signed up and ten days later she got the call from new york, but tara hesitated and said no. >> i was like, oh, no, she did not just say no. >> reporter: that is tara's eldest, ashley, she was back home from the air force academy at the time. >> i'm like do it, mom, do it. she's like, i don't know, i'm nervous. i'm scared that i can't do it. i, like, i might fail. i cannot believe she said "i'm skaf scared to fail," like, this woman right here. >> reporter: the 21-year-old told her mom when things got tough in basic training it was tara that pushed her. now it was ashley's turn to cheer on mom. >> i kind of said a quick prayer and i thought, okay, i have to say yes. >> reporter: soon she found herself in the heart of the pandemic war zone. >> so you could already see the loneliness in the patients.

no visitors. they couldn't walk in the halls. they were kind of stuck to these rooms. >> reporter: she says it was grueling work, logging 15 or more hour shifts for the next four weeks. >> the anxiety was more than i have ever had in my life, of what was going to happen. >> did you ever say to yourself, what am i doing here? >> every day. every morning just like, oh, please, let today be okay, but extremely thankful for the opportunity. i would never change it. >> reporter: amelia is a nurse who has answered the call not once but twice. she joins me now from miami, florida. thank you very much for being with us. the first obvious question is, why on earth would you choose to leave your family and place yourself in harm's way twice? >> so, it was not something i would have ever considered doing on my own, but i just kept hearing the small voice in the back of my head that said, "go, go, go, you're needed.

you're not doing anywhere where you are. just go help where you're needed." it wasn't something i could ignore so i went. >> all right. so you first went to new york. now in florida. can you give us a since of when it's like to be on the ward in the e.r. in the two successive global epicenters of the pandemic? >> yeah, so, it's not something i've ever experienced before. it is definitely in crisis mode, everything both in new york and here in miami now. people are so sick. and, you know, some people don't believe that it's really as bad as it is, but i'm here to tell you that it's bad. please stay home if you don't have to be out. >> i mean, compare the two. you were in new york where it was just absolutely horrific. and then now, i mean, you know, what was the situation like then and what is it like now? >> so in new york it was more toward the beginning and we didn't know anything about this disease. and still months later, we don't really know a whole lot about

it. a lot of it is just trying different things. so things that i've seen used in new york we're using here in miami. and at this point, we're just kind of hoping for some kind of success with these patients. >> do you feel more hopeful now than when you were in new york because you have, you know, better ways to treat patients? do you feel more discouraged now because you might have expected this to end by now and it just keeps going and going. >> i will tell you, kim, i completely expected it to end by now. i expected to be home with my family. i brought clothes to new york to go out and tour the city because i had never been before, and, unfortunately, i just didn't get to go out and see anything because the pandemic is still going on. and i don't think anybody could have predicted that it was going to be going on this far into the season. this far past the typical -- typical cold and flu season. >> the toll on health care workers like yourself is obviously huge. you know, we hear about the

conditions in some hospitals. nurses forced to reuse ppe. having to work, you know, insane hours with no relief. for you, what was the lowest point? >> i we have had been very fortunate that we have had staffing. people like myself and people from all over the country have been leaving their families and coming to these hot spots. so it is giving the relief that i think a lot of these hospitals need. so that the nurses are able to work normal hours, and the ones who live in these places to be home with their families. the lowest point for me is, honestly, seeing patients who get better, they recover from this. they're getting ready to be transferred home, and people don't realize this is a vascular disease. they'll have a stroke. and for me that's been the hardest thing to deal with, is people get better and then they have a stroke, and that's it. >> you know, i mean, i have to say, on the weeks when i come into work and every time i'm shocked by all the clubgoers i

see gathering in tight spaces. we hear stories all the time, this weekend dozens of people attending a bar in hollywood, no masks, no social distancing. how mad does that make you when you've sacrificed so much to help and you see people just not caring? >> right. so i believe that is one of the more frustrating things. like i said, people just don't believe that this is a real thing. people don't believe that it is as serious as it is. and i know that it is hard to understand something that you don't see firsthand. a lot of these people, i don't blame them because if you don't see something, you don't experience, the human mind just can't understand how bad it is. we can tell people all day long, but until they have family or friends, you know, heaven forbid that they actually know someone who gets it, but i think that's just what it's going to take for people to understand how bad it is. >> last question to you.

you've seen the devastation firsthand of this disease. and, you know, if the worst were to happen, if you were to get sick and, god forbid, pass away, as many health care workers have, would it have been worth it? >> it would. i actually came here fully prepared to know that i may not come home from this. and it was something that my husband and my daughter were both pandemrepared for, but thew that this was something i had to do. i couldn't just sit by when this is my calling in life, to sit by while all of the other nurses were drowning with work. my family knew that this was something that i had to do. >> well, bless your efforts and, please do stay out safe out there. thank you so much for talking to us. amelia stancebury, a nurse working on the front lines, volunteered to go into the heart of the battle against the coronavirus. thank you very much for joining us. >> stay home, everybody. stay safe. zblnch. >> what a great message. and thanks for watching "cnn

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