vain, which is why i am begging those in power to do something to help my brothers and sisters on the bench. thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. the country may be in a new phase during the pandemic, president trump certainly is not. no new phase or tone. there are as there always has been serious medical experts offering the best information they know at the time they see it like dr. anthony fauci. today the new phase that dr. birx mentioned is about the community spread. it is bars, restaurants, people who are spreading it two have no symptoms at all. that dr. fauci said makes it more difficult and insidious to use his words. but not according to the president who talked up how

wonderful the new phase is. >> the virus is receding in hot spots across the south and west we must focus on new flare ups including georgia, mississippi, oklahoma, missouri. i think they will soon be very much under control. i think we have done as well as any nation. if you really look. >> we are doing as well as any country he said. no mention of a national strategy or the 155,000 that have died or most days we are adding new cases in the low to middle 60,000s. as if to emphasize the lack of interest in the pandemic, the president arrived at trump national golf course in virginia to play golf, exactly what he condemned president obama for doing. one hour later he teed off. in between there were two

interviews offering rather sober commentary. commentary the president might have benefitted from hearing. one interview was with a doctor and a member of the coronavirus task force. he didn't have positive things to say about hydroxchloroquine. >> at this point in time there have been five randomized placebo control trial that don't show any benefit to hydroxchloroquine. at this point in time we don't recommend that as a treatment and there is no evidence to show that it is. >> the second interview was with dr. birx and she talked about the new phase of the virus. >> what we are seeing today is different from march and april. it is extraordinarily widespread. it is into the rural as equal urban areas. >> we don't know specifically which part of the interview the president saw or if he did see it. maybe someone showed it to him after his golf. a day later or after nancy

pelosi criticized dr. birx behind closed-doors, the president tweeted this. crazy nancy pelosi said horrible things about dr. birx going after her because of the good job we are doing on combatting the china virus. including vaccines and therapeut therapeutics. she said she hit us and talked seriously about what the country is facing. presidencies that as hitting our administration. he called the whole thing pathetic. dr. birx he was including as pathetic he doesn't care she has gone out of her way time and time again to ignore the president's own statements under mining the work of the task force and embarrassing himself. the awkward time the president suggested infecting people with disinfectant.

dr. birx looking pained. or that rose garden news conference in march when she held up the chart about quick terroristing and drive their -- drive thru options. she has done a lot to bolster this president. but as jeff sessions can tell you, a lot with this president is never enough. it is ironic because less than 24 hours before the president's tweet it was his white house who said you shouldn't attack dr. birx. okay. that is an okay target. this is from one of the top figures in the communication department. it is deeply responsible of speaker ploes telosi to try to undermine and discredit dr. birx and it is also just wrong. period. hard stop. do not undermine and create

public distrust in dr. birx. period. hard stop mr. president. no there is no new phase for the president. for the country, yeah. higher case counts, almost 231,000 dead predicted by november. the president seems to think things are going well. like many health officials like in california screaming for something to be done. >> there was no response to try to stem that. the stemming should come our rights are going to kill us. our right to not wear a mask, that is going to kill us. south korea had four. one, two three, four cases. they shut the whole damn country down. shut it down. we are out here playing. this is going to get bad when flu season comes how am i going to differiate flu from corona? how am i go to do that.

we are at the point right now where if we don't get serious, ashes, ashes, we all fall down. >> that doctor is dr. desmond carson. thank you so much for being with us. what was it in particular. you are an emergency medicine physician in california. i am wondering what it is that you are experiencing as a doctor on the front lines that has you so concerned. >> last week we had a peak in our county in northern california. we had a peak on a thursday where seven people succumb to covid. the next day in the morning after they asked me to speak to that three other people that had succumb to covid. for us that was a spike.

we had flattened the curve and we were on the winning side. that is what spiked the interest in me speaking. >> i talked to a lot of doctors who talk about this kind of strange experience of what they are seeing every day at work and in the hospitals and then they go outside and you see people out on the streets without masks, or you see video people on boats and bars having a good time acting like we are not in the middle of the pandemic. what is that like? >> it pisses me off. it is disrespectful to the people who are working day in and out for my clinic to the multiple emergency room departments and to the people that are going to fight this virus in new york, texas, alabama, miami, the people put their lives on the line to make

this work. as i said, we know we are in a war. 600 people died in the great war, world war ii in six years. we are at 150,000 in six months. people are selfish and self centered. just wear a mask. wash your hands. practice social distancing. i walk in the house, my wife makes me drop my clothes. i go in the kitchen to start eating, she stops me to wash my hand. i get pissed off but it is the right thing. if we do what is right, maybe we can stop this. korea, four cases. four cases. they shut the whole damn country

down and they got rid of it. why can't we not be respectful of this disease and just rid ourselves of it least we have to deal with herd immunity. we don't want to have to deal with that. >> you said our rights are going to kill us. you are talking about people saying it is my right not to wear a mask. people wear seatbelts. people didn't like it where seatbelts were made part of the law. people do it now and it seems normal now. you feel our rights are going to kill us? >> absolutely. they are absolutely doing it right now. you look at the outbreaks that occurred after memorial day and the outbreaks that occurred after july fourth, people are out partying, drinking, dancing. of course i did that while i was young. but now is the time that we have

to get serious about this infection. covid-19, we need to be more respectful. respectful of the seniors. i seen a young boy 1920, muscles rippling arguing with a 60-year-old woman trying to check him out at the cashier. that is damn disrespectful, man. disrespectful for us to walk around as i said and not respect the work. these physicians and nurses have to go home to their family. they go to work to deal with this disease that is killing 163,000 people and people are playing like this is a joke. >> you mentioned disrespectful, i am always stunned if i am in a place with a sign on the door saying that you must wear a

mask. someone comes in and does not wear a mask, it seems so disrespectful to the cashiers and the people that are taking the orders. it is disrespectful to the people not being paid enough to do it in the pandemic to be the ones policing masks. we are leaving it up to cashiers to face the brunt of the anger. >> ditto. that is what i am saying. they shouldn't have to argue with no young boy who is swelling up on her talking about his damn rights. he should be respectful to that senior citizen who probably went through ww 2. be respectful of these people. also disrespecting the people abroad who are trying to protect our borders and interest abroad when their families are here and

they think we are taking care of them and we are not. we are not taking care of the peoples family. it is disrespectful. if nothing else the young people need to be a little more humble and abide to the regulation of those that are intelligent, i.e., the people of public health. one thing we definitely noted through the outbreak is that when we have a separation of church and state, there damn will needs to be a separation of health and state. we should follow the rules and guidelines of the public health officials who went to the best colleges and medical schools and residency and 12 years of studying and public health to make sure when outbreaks like this occur they can be the ones to give guidelines. cdc give guidelines but we have our business people telling us what to do. if we respect the guidelines we will be done with this and move

on to the economy. i said the other day, winters right around the corner. what am i go to do at the front door when someone is coughing or gagging, do they have the flu or covid or 45 said the snivels and a cold. we won't know. >> doctor, i appreciate all you are doing and i appreciate you speaking out. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> be careful. our perspective now from dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, the president said we are doing very well the day after dr. birx, two he seems to at least, until recently, listen to as opposed to dr. fauci. dr. birx saying the pandemic reached a new phase and is extraordinarily widespread and still no coordinated federal

plan or change or anything from the president. >> boggles it is mind at this point. the idea that deborah birx is saying this is widespread based on the numbers we see is undercounting how bad it is. we are still not even doing testing. the problem is bad. it is getting worse. we are not doing anything about it. occasionally it will hold pressure on the wound somewhere on the body. that is really about it. we are in the middle of the worst public health disaster of our lifetime. we are not only not doing anything about it, we are continuing to minimize it. >> i want to talk about what the president said in the briefing about the lockdown. >> lockdowns do not prevent infection in the future. it just doesn't.

many times it comes back. the purpose is to buy time to build capacity, especially with respect to hospitals, learn more about the disease and develop effective treatments as we did in the united states. >> is that true about lockdowns? >> it is certainly not true. we had over 47,000 cases yesterday in the united states. in china they had 43. 43. >> 43. >> 43 cases, not 43,000. >> 43. that is all the cases they had. that is going on day after day. we are at 60,000, they are at 35. lockdowns work. quarantine works. isolation works.

wearing masks work. contact tracing works. these things work. we are not doing them. i agree with sanjay. it is extremely frustrating for anybody in health to see an epidemic like this go unchecked with what we see disaster ahead. it is anybody that looks at the situation. look at where the infection is and think what happens when we add 50 million more young people to the mix. it is a terrifying prospect. >> sanjay, there are two new studies showing testing and contact tracing are key for reopening schools. two things we are not doing well enough are testing and contact

tracing. the mayor around miami said you know, their contact tracers don't even get about 17% of contacts. that is failure. >> if you get 50,000 infections a day it would be a laborius task to contact trace everything. you have to bring the knobs down. all of these places don't have a vaccine. they don't have anything we don't have. when you bring the numbers down you can start to contact trace effectively. the two studies you are talking about, one was a modeling study in the u.k. saying if you were testing 75% of symptomatic people you can bring the numbers down to a point where you can contact trace and reopen schools

safely. in south wales they kept schools open with aggressive testing and contact tracing and didn't see significant upticks in the country of new infections. it is possible. we have so much virus out there right now. it is such a large amount. we first have to shrink the tumor first before we can adequately treat it. it has gotten too big. >> so many parents worry about sending kids back to school. >> everybody understands you have to look to see what your situation is. if there is a hurricane, go to the basement with your children. miami, houston, parts of los angeles. if it is a thunderstorm, you don't go outside. if it say heavy rain you go out

with equipment. each corresponds to red, yellow green. yellow, you go out with equipment. if you send your kid to a party you find out he will be protected. only if it is sunny 1 in 1 million people in your area is infected that you feel confident. there is nothing unusual about the virus. it is like a cold virus but it kills. situational awareness. >> thank you. thank you very much. president trump bashing mail-in voting at the end of his briefing today. we will discuss if that is a sign of campaign turmoil and what the strategy is behind that. pretty clear and updates on a

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voting. >> they are using covid to get the mail-in voting. absentee ballots are great. but the universal mail-in ballots have turned out to be a disaster. >> said the post office is not prepared for an avalanche of mail-in ballots. the post office said it has ample capacity to meet the mail volume. these baseless voting conspiracies that the president continues to spread, it is obvious what he is trying to do here and sew doubt about in advance of the election.

the president lost the election by 3 million popular votes and tried to spin it as national fraud and a commission run by his political cronies. they could find notice evidence of the fraud. there is really no evidence to support the idea that mail-in voting leads to fraud. five states rely on it entirely right now and there is infinite. the u.s. military has been relying on it for years with no problem. but what i think the president is setting up is his post election spin. an interesting nuance is the people responding to his arguments are republicans who are now less likely to use mail-in ballots than democrats. you might have a situation where a lot of the democrats are concerned about the vote in larger numbers through the mail.

republicans show up in larger numbers at the polling places. so on election night the numbers might favor the president. ballots will come in after election day and he will claim fraud which is a dangerous thing for our democracy. >> i don't think the president cares about the danger to democracy. >> if he really is that concerned about fraud and if he really is that concerned more realistically about his own viability, then he should listen to the very worried republicans david was alluding to that i am talking to also. saying every time he opens his mouth saying fraud, fraud, fraud, mail-in voting does not work and don't do it, it depresses his own vote. that is a very, very real concern. despite the fact we have to under score it again, there is

no evidence in the states that rely exclusively on mail-in voting, only three but there have been a lot of studies that there is any fraud. just not the way that it is. >> the president is now threatening to sue the state of nevada over what he calls a late night -- i am wondering what you make of that? >> first of all, the president sues everybody for everything. that is his habit. >> he just threatens to sue usually. he is apparently denying the fact we are in the middle of an epic pandemic and that there are a lot of people terrified about going to polling places. election authorities say they have trouble getting election

judges to sign up to man the polling places meaning there will be fewer polling places and what supporters of mail-in voting are saying is give people the option if they don't want to go to the polling place. this is what the president is trying to prevent. it is part in parcel with his denial of the situation that we are in. and it is not likely to get better between now and november. so he is sewing chaos. if he wants to be helpful, help states fund their operations to deal with the added volume of the ballots they are going to get and don't try to undermine the postal service to slow down the delivery of ballots. that is a big concern. the biden campaign is emphasizing early vote. not vote by mail but early vote. they are concerned not about fraud but whether or not the

postal service will deliver the ballots on time so they can be counted. the president is contending widespread mail-in voting will be impossible and fraudulent but absentee ballots are fine with him. >> there are some places where you can physically bring in an absentee ballot if you are going to be gone on election day to some place other than the postal service. but by in large anybody that voted absentee, including the president of the united states knows that you fill out your absentee ballot and put it in the mail and that is generally what happens. his argument is that you have to request an absentee ballot and everybody who is a registered voter gets a ballot. if you want to send it in, great. the other thing, you know, there

is concern that is his concern and starting with him and trickling down to all of the people that he is ordering to allegedly file lawsuits that all of these democrats or potential biden voters out there will open up their mailbox and get a ballot in the mail and they can just send it back and they are more likely to do that than the republicans are. that is another big reason. he is worried mail-in voting is a recipe for him to lose. never mind that as president of the united states advocating an easier way to conduct your most important democratic act. >> more on the new studies testing and contract tracing is key for reopening schools. ♪

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more break news tonight. dr. anthony fauci said schools should proceed with caution and make safety a priority and fauci said that students need the psychological and nutritional benefits of attending in-person classes but acknowledges parents might have to dramatically modify their work schedule. two new studies suggesting scaled up testing and contact tracing being key factors in any school reopening. joining me now are two professionals, becky stone the director of alcoa schools in

tennessee. i appreciate both of you for being here tonight. becky, the first day back to school in your area, tennessee, was july 22nd, a week and a half ago. i know you had four confirmed coronavirus cases. do you expect so many so soon and how do you respond to that? how has it changed things? >> you know, i think when we decided that we were going to open we knew we would have cases. we unfortunately did not go into it thinking that, you know, nobody was going to get sick because life still goes on. those folks will get sick if they are in school or not. the first one we had was just right after we opened school. and we met together as a team we did our contact tracing. and because i felt like we had really good protocol in place we really didn't -- the exposure was limited and the second time

it happened was last week and there was very little exposure. >> that is interesting you are doing your own contact tracing as a school. that is obviously a smart thing to do given the problems we are seeing with contact tracing on the large scale. brian, in texas you are facing a different timeline. schools have not opened yet. once they do they will be required to full in-person learning after the first eight weeks. do you think that timeline will allow you to keep your students and deeteachers safe? >> it is a good question and one i hope we do not have to contemplate. our preference is to allow local school leaders and elected boards of trustees to make decisions about what is safe for their students and staffor. it is concerning we have a timeline of eight weeks. >> becky, i know your district

did a staggered start. students coming in one day a week meaning you have 20% occupancy at any given time. how is it working out? what are the difficulties that are you finding from other educators that are out there? >> that is true. we are a small district. we only have about 2,200 students system wide. t we did decide a different option. our students could also choose to do all online. to do virtual learning. when we said we brought in 20% it is less than that because of those virtual learning students who are already online. we stagger. students are in school one day a week and do digital learning the next four days until they come back to the in-person day. i got a lot of great feedback from parents, teachers,

administrators. it does create difficulty. you touched on that a second ago. it creates a difficulty for parents. i understand that. we want to be sensitive to that. we felt like with the pressure to open, this is the only way to open safely. that was our first priority. >> i know with contact tracing, if a student tests positive what happens in terms of quarantining, you know, does the teacher they were in touch with does that person have to leave school? what happens? >> well, again because we opened with such small numbers it is very easy for the classes to social distance. all of the staff are required to wear a mask. 6-12 we have strongly suggested they wear and pre-k through 5 we

suggested they wear if they are in close groups. however it has been good because most all students are wearing masks as well. again, if a student tests positive, there may only be four other students in that classroom and they have been distanced. few of them have been in close contact for ten minutes or more within six feet of one another. so the exposure has been very limited, and most of the time both have on masks. >> so they can continue to come to school and the teachers come to school even though they have been in the area of a student but not for a prolonged time. >> that is correct. the student that tests positive would quarantine for 14 days. >> okay. >> anyone else that we find that may have been in close contact with that person and may have exposure, they would also

quarantine for the 14 days. >> brian, the guidance for best practices for schools is a moving target on federal and state levels. texas has been a hot spot for the virus in recent weeks. how does it change your plans and preparations? >> it changed it dramatically. whether we surveyed in early june three quarters indicated they wanted to come back. the same survey in mid-july was down to a third. it altered plans and in texas we had constantly shifting state guidance as well. i don't honestly know which version of the plan we are on. i last track a long time ago. the prevalence of the virus definitely shifted our plans. but i feel good that we got a good plan and a nimble plan going forward and we will be able to serve families either in the building or distance learning well.

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the tropical storm that brushed by florida has once again turned into a hurricane. where and when will this make landfall? >> reporter: probably around the midnight hour, myrtle beach or just to the east. every one of the storms that we talked about are a little different. this is a named storm for five days so it will be known for heavy rain and strong winds. not just landfall but tomorrow for the big cities. finally the rain wrapped around it. the pressure dropped and winds picked up. it will bring with it devastating effects, tornado watch until 2:00 in the morning. we had two spin up in brunswick county into areas of carolina. already around myrtle beach a surge of three to four feet above the normal tide. notice all of the rainfall, south and north carolina, the rumors are high and they will see four to eight. all of the rain out to the west is a cold front, anderson.

as that makes it way towards the east coast, isaias and the cold front will merge and create a problem as we get into the big cities. my fear is that some of the heavy rainfall could lead to evacuations overnight and even water rescues. we have for the first time since 1960 watches and warnings from florida to canada. the heavy rainfall even picks up around areas of virginia, washington d.c., six, seven, eight, ten inches of rain and then it picks up. this will be the concern later on tomorrow afternoon. >> isaias is expected to move up the northeast coast and i am not sure what it will become and how quickly. what should the major metro areas anticipate? >> the good news as far as the surge goes in areas of long island and coastal rhode island this will hit at the time of the low tide, only 1-3.

that is good news. the problem are the winds. as the cold front comes in from the ohio valley, the rain comes in from the chesapeake into areas of the delaware bay and the winds kick up tomorrow, early afternoon. philadelphia, 60 to 65 miles per hour winds and in new york city, anderson, 65 to 70 miles per hour winds are possible. the strongest wind event for new york city since super storm sandy. we could have massive power outages. a multi-day event and characteristics of the environment playing along with the hurricane. >> thanks very much. now the potential legal storm surrounding the president. new york prosecutors asked a judge to dismiss the president's lawsuit challenging a subpoena for his financial records arguing the legal teams claims have been rejected by other courts and suggesting they are investigating other actions beyond hush money payments. the president has denied affairs, we don't know what

transactions they might be looking at. prosecutors are noting there are public allegations of criminal activity at the plaintiff's new york county trump organization dating back a decade. our chief legal analyst has been focusing on his impeachment in his new book. it goes on sale tomorrow. i am looking forward to reading that, jeff. i want to talk about the book in a moment. first, the investigation into the trump organization we learned about today. at this point is this a question of when and not if prosecutors in new york get their hands on president trump's financial records? >> that is it. if you read the supreme court's opinion in this case, they left no doubt that the new york county district attorney and the grand jury have the right to get the financial records, and i think they are likely to get a ruling sooner, rather than later. probably in the next month or so. that is a final, final ruling.

the important thing to remember though is that this is a grand jury investigation in that it is secret. the documents, including the tax returns will be turned over only to the grand jury and not publicly disclosed unless there is a trial which is probably many months down the road if it happens yes, the prosecutors will get these documents, but it's not like the congressional investigation, where there is a good chance the documents would then become public. >> we heard teed from a federal judge whose son was shot and killed at their house. the judge's husband as i said, survived, i want to play a little bit of what judge solaz said today. >> daniel and i went downstairs to the basement and we were chatting as we always do.

and daniel said, mom, let's keep talking. i love talking to you, mom. and it was at that exact moment that the doorbell rang and daniel looked at me and said, who is that? and before i could say a word his sprinted upstairs. within seconds i heard the sound of bullets and someone screaming no. i later learned that this monster who had a fedex package in his hand opened fire. but daniel being daniel protected his father and he took the shooter's first bullet directly to the chest. >> you worked in the federal courts. the judge is calling on those in

power to make it harder to find federal judge's personal information. do you think that lawmakers will enact that protection? is that even possible? >> it is possible that they could enact those protections. but as we all know, it's very hard to keep addresses secret in the age of the internet, there just is a lot of this information floating around. it's rare when federal judges have protections. sometimes they do in high profile cases or when there's been threats. there have been several cases where judges have had protection for a long time. judges are here in the world. and they are not -- they don't have bodyguards and they are lawyers. they previously lawyers in private practice. a lot of people know where they live. it happens very rarely, it's hard to imagine. >> i want to talk to you about your books. i've read every one of your

books. the o.j. simpson trial, the patty hearst book, your new book, true crimes and misdemeanors. you started working on this as soon as mueller was appointed? >> i was, and i thought it was going to be just a mueller book. what really intrigued me about the story was. this was a genuinely secret investigation, there were no leaks out of this office. no one really knew how they did their investigation. fortunately i was able to get access to them, and as everyone knows, the story evolved from russia to ukraine and this turned into the next investigation of ukraine. one of the things i point out in the book, just how similar the two investigations are. but as you know, i was talking about it around the office for a long time. i was working on a mueller book from the beginning.

but it certainly evolved into something more than that. >> the idea that the president was trying to get foreign dirt on his rivals is up for re-election against the same rival. >> it's extraordinary, and what was striking to me in looking at the big picture here was how similar the russia story and ukraine story are. it's not just that the president's behavior is similar, it's a similar cast of characters. president trump really learned to dislike ukraine from paul manafort who was his campaign chairman deeply involved in corrupt activities in ukraine, and when president zielinski took office, you could see that hostility coming through. and the desire to use foreign

leaders for personal political gain not in the national interest. and then to lie about it, it's really two versions of the same story. >> the book is out tomorrow. i cannot wait to read it. we remember more of the victims of the pandemic including a nurse and security guard. because it's always time for care.

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slow the spread. tonight we remember more of the lives that have been lost during this pandemic. joshua was known as a miracle baby, because he was born premature. he begged for a little sister who was then named jasmine. he worked as a nurse in a convalescence home. his dedication to his work was inspiring to his family and especially to his sister who

considered him her hero. he was 29 years old. george was a security guard in houston who loved the city where he worked and lived. he worked at minute made park and the toyota center, he was known as a warm and peaceful presence. always a hard worker who worked two jobs to support his family. he was 50 clears old. the news continues, i want to hand it over for cuomo prime time. >> thank you, anderson. when this president tells you something about this pandemic that is wrong or worse, every time it is my job to expose it and correct it. ignore him, you say. i wish. i can't. because i can't ignore the reality that you and i are forced to live because of his action and inaction, right? there can be no ignor