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tonight we remember more of the lives that have been lost during this pandemic. joshua was known as a miracle baby, because he was born premature. he loved disney movies and begged for a little sister, who was named jasmine. he worked as a nurse in a convalescence home. he and his sister both came down with the coronavirus. his dedication to his work was inspiring to his family and especially to his sister who considered him her hero. he was 29 years old. george longoria was a security guard in houston who loved the city where he worked and lived. he worked at minute maid park and the toyota center, he was known as a warm and peaceful presence.
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his daughter says he was always a hard worker who worked two jobs to support his family. he was 50 clears old. the news continues, i want to hand it over for "cuomo prime time." >> thank you, anderson. i am chris cuomo, welcome to "prime time". when this president tells you something about this pandemic that is wrong or worse, every time it is my job to expose it and correct it. ignore him, you say. i wish. i can't. because i can't ignore the reality that you and i are forced to live because of his action and inaction, right? there can be no ignoring the man who is keeping us from doing what we could be doing that would shorten our suffering. the truth? my kids and in too many places your kids are likely not going back to school the way they should. why? you're hearing it, or you've heard it already, or you're about to hear it. they can't test kids often enough. they can't keep teachers safe.
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they can't get results fast enough. they can't trace the cases. they can't find the spaces. they don't have the money. the union doesn't want to do it. nobody's talking to anybody. that should not be the case. and at the top of the food chain is our president. trump must be held to account for the inaction. and he must be pushed to act. not to just distract like he did again today. proof? >> we're beginning to see evidence of significant progress. the virus is receding in hot spots across the south and west. >> first, who wrote that? have you no conscience? no shame? west? california just became the first state to top 500,000 cases and whoever wrote that knows it. the south and the west are on
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fire. even trump held a map in his hand today that illustrated the reality. does he think you are blind? the numbers that i just told you and that you see everywhere all the time show he is wrong. does he think you are stupid? and the doctor he wants favored on his task force. now he says he's wrong. >> i want to be very clear, what we're seeing today is different from march and april. it's extraordinarily widespread. >> now she says he's wrong. why? because it's the truth. that's why trump attacked birx. it's why he attacks fauci. why? he wants people to stop telling you the truth about the pandemic. why? because the truth is, not even people in rural areas are safe. birx just said it.
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so what does trump do? does he own it? does he try to do something about it? no. he pounces, not with better data, but being what he is too often in the face of fact. not about data. he's a hater. in order to counter nancy, deborah took the bait and hit us, pathetic. no, sir, you're the one that's hitting us. and this is what is pathetic. >> i think we're doing very well. i told dr. birx i think we're doing very well. she was in my office a little while ago. a person i have a lot of respect for. i think nancy pelosi has treated her very badly. very, very badly. very nasty. >> logic first. he calls someone he says he respects pathetic? now, why does he do that? because he is baphetic. with a "b," not a "p."
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as in bravo. the quality of taking something serious and reducing it to the ridiculous. creating an anticlimax, it's a perfect fit, isn't it? just like the white house yesterday calling it deeply irresponsible and just wrong for anyone to attack the doctor. anyone, that is, i guess, unless it's the president. reducing a pandemic to the ridiculous. bathetic, like this. >> a tough, invisible enemy. lockdowns do not prevent infection in the future. they just don't. it comes back many times. it comes back. the purpose of a lockdown is to bide time to build capacity. >> i mean, have you eaten on the insane root that devours intellect and takes reason prisoner? shakespeare asked it, trump should answer it. the whole point is that we lock down to stop the infection from spreading.
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the key once we did that was to reopen wisely. what does that mean? slowly. social distancing, being careful, wearing masks. the reason the virus overpowered the way it did, in part, is because this virus is very powerful and very contagious. but what is the biggest part? because of people who took trump's lead in doing none of the right things. and why would you, when he kept telling you didn't have to. that's why it came back. for months, this president lied, defied, and denied the reality, he did nothing that he could have. if he had treated it the way he did the wall, with the same approach, we would not be where we are today. ask the governors. red and blue, ask the governors. but he didn't. and now, as fall approaches, the reality is, i don't like to say it, i don't like to live it, we're not ready.
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we can't do what we want to do, what we need to do, get back to work. get back to school in earnest, why? because the reality has always been, if you don't deal with the pandemic, you can't do anything else. you can't wish it away. you can't say it's been too long. you can't say the lockdown seemed to last forever. not when you don't do them right. the middle of a pandemic and this president spent the weekend hitting golf balls and bragging about his large maga turnouts in hot zones. no masks. big crowd. bathetic. and the reality is, once again, the key is the we. it's the truth. my brothers and sisters, this man is determined to keep down his golf handicap, not the number of cases that are making us sick. should we be pushing on congress? absolutely.
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but too many on the right are playing the game because they're afraid of him. so it's got to be about us. what we can do, and what we can force our local leaders to make happen. and the reality is sinking in to everybody. even trump. you see his last campaign email? asking supporters to wear face masks. i don't love wearing them either. but they can possibly help us get back to our american way of life. where was that months ago? where was that then? you really think that's enough now? it's got to be about us. what i can do, what you can do. what we can do for our families, our communities, local and state leaders, and pressure on congress. i'm telling you, this president doesn't want to own it. dr. sanjay gupta joins us now to talk about what we have to do. now, earlier today, trump spoke about taking hydroxychloroquine
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for two weeks and said he didn't test positive. how concerning is it that he's still talking that talk about hydroxychloroquine? and remember, when he did that session last week where he talked about what was in the works to help us, he didn't mention the drug. what's your play here and what's the concern? >> i don't know what the play is anymore, chris. this is -- i think i've been spending a lot of time of figuring out the machinations of how this is working. there's no logic behind it. first of all, the hydroxychloroquine doesn't work. not as a prophylactic, not as an early treatment, not as a late treatment. there are studies that show that. there were observational studies in the past that said, hey, maybe there's something there. then you you either confirm it or prove it false through a randomized, controlled study as have been done.
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i don't know what the motivation is here still, but we're wasting a lot of time, a lot of money, a lot of resources. you're wasting your air time talking about this, we're in the middle of the worst public health crisis of our lifetime, and we're talking about something that doesn't work. there may be things that do work, that we're missing out on as a result. so i would hate to ascribe a motivation, that would assign some logic to it, and there is none. >> look, i think the play is pretty obvious, when you don't want to deal with reality, you create a surreality, a distraction. that's what the drug is. but again, when he was reading what his people had written for him about what their plan is, remdisivir, other things, vaccine trials, no hydroxychloroquine. why? it's all sell, but his people aren't buying it. now, schools and the coronavirus. you and i are in the same jam, doesn't matter, across the country.
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the private schools by and large are echoing what they think is going to happen with the public schools. the best it seems most are going to do, with in any kind of cases, any kind of density is this hybrid, sometimes home, sometimes not. i got three different kids in two different schools, they're going to be in a week and then out three, that's what it seems. i think the hybrid model is the worst of both worlds. however, i'm going to have to live by it. there's a good chance each of their weeks are going to be different ones. so this is going to be hard. what do people need to know right now heading into the fall? >> sadly, and we are in the same boat here, chris, i have three teenaged daughters. the idea that this may be an exercise in futility is becoming increasingly real to me. i get it, we want to send kids back to school, but we're in the middle of a pandemic that's just getting worse and we're not doing anything to stop it. this is going to be adding fuel to the fire. studies have come out showing
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kids 10 and older spread just as much as adults. we don't know about kids that are younger than 10. i think the jury's still out on that. the numbers will go up. if we had adequate testing in place, if we had adequate contact tracing in place, if we had brought the numbers down 14 days in a row before opening these school districts, we may have had a shot at this. and then i was reading a study today, a third of teachers and faculty are considered vulnerable because of age or pre-existing conditions. you're putting them in this situation where they may be spreading the virus to those teachers and faculty. they may be taking the virus home and spreading it to their parents. you know this, we've been talking about this for months. we shut down, there were 4 or 5 people in this country that were infected. and a few dozen have died. that's when you shut everything down. now we're opening up when you have 155,000 who have died and millions infected? where is the logic in this? just like you're asking about the hydroxychloroquine, this whole thing defies logic.
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it's been minimized, and we're still not doing anything about it. it's very frustrating. >> especially when there's a better answer. look at the u.k. we'll discuss it later in the show. ashish jha is taking a look at it. how do they get these rapid tests. how do they get it done in 90 minutes? is the uk that much better than us? is there some science that's proprietary? couldn't we be buying up those kinds of tests right now? >> we should have been developing this ourselves. you talked about this early on, there was a strategic method to minimizing this by not testing. sad to say, i think that's the truth now, you sort of suggested that early on and i thought, maybe we're just behind. but i think it was deliberate now at this point to not test, because it would make things look bad. we should have had significant breakthroughs in antigen testing by now. it should be easy to know what your day is going to be like for
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the coronavirus as it is looking at your phone for the weather. >> do we have it even created? can't we get it from somewhere else? where did the uk get it? >> that's another thing, the initial test that was available that we did not use was a world health organization test. there was this idea that we will create our own test. >> good thing we pulled out of that. >> look, people ask me, what are the mistakes here? what have been the bright spots? it's hard for me to think about what have not been missteps here. totally unforced errors. chris, wear a mask, physically distance, don't go to indoor crowded places, avoid large gatherings. wash your hands for three weeks. do this for three weeks and we'll be looking at the backside of this curve. how hard is that? how hard is that? >> how pathetic is that? to use the president's word that applied more to him than his subject in that particular context. three weeks, we could be in a different place, and yet we're
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all heading into fall. ready or not, here we come. kids aren't going to be in school the right way, it's going to screw up people's work lives, the economic recovery, our kids. there's going to be more inequalities. it's going to get worse. there's no reason for this. the only thing i disagree with this, they're not unforced errors, they were forced errors. this task force would have taken a different direction. the heads of those agencies would have wanted to do different things. the governors were asking for different things, trump didn't want to indulge it, that's a forced error. but doc, in context, you're right, as always, because you're the smarter and better looking guy. thank you very much. >> see you soon, thank you. i've been telling you to get -- we're all in the same boat. we're going to talk later in the show, uk, 90 minutes, they're getting their tests back. us, 14 days. what is going on here? we're supposed to be bringing it all back, making it great again.
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great again. how? manufacturing. you couldn't get anybody. you got one company in maine to work with on ppe? we can't find anybody to make these antigen treatments? these reagents? really? really? nobody, in months? not one deal? mr. deal maker? that's why we are where we are. that's why we are where we are. all right. news developing tonight on another raging virus, racism. police body cam video just leaked out in the case that ignited protests around the world. i'll tell you why i want you to see it. i know you say, i've seen it. no. you're going to get a first look at what the officers saw for themselves. what they were taking in that led them to make the decisions they made in the final minutes of george floyd's life. what is the video going to mean to the prosecution? does it create more questions,
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what was reasonable under the circumstances? here's what they were seeing and hearing. >> let's see your hands. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. >> let me see your other hand. >> i'm sorry. >> let me see your other hand. both hands. >> put your hands up right now. let me see the other hand. >> all right. what did i do? what did i do? >> put your hand up there. >> now, what do you see? was he responding to instructions? was he being confrontational? did the gun come out too fast? does it matter? did he show his hands? i'm sorry, i'm sorry, i didn't do nothing. what does that mean? what did it not mean? that was minutes before i can't breathe. the video is from officer thomas lane's body camera. one of four officers charged in floyd's death. lawyers for two officers say no comment.
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lawyers for the other two haven't gotten back to us. this is about both sides, their best version put into the criminal process and fairness under law. there's a lot more, about 30 minutes of what they'll be able to process in the jury. joey jackson is here to walk us through some of the most crucial moments. joey, thank you, good blessings to the family. good health during this difficult time. what stands out to you? >> what stands out to me is to your point, everything has a context. when you look at and evaluate the end result, someone's dead here. you look at the force we use with respect to the neck. in the video, i'm looking to context to what informed their judgment as to this being the end result. was he irate, uncontrollable? was he noncompliant? was he in a state of manic where they felt they needed to subdue him? >> so, first frame. show me your hands.
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i'm sorry, show me both your hands. i don't see what he was doing with his other hand. is that reason to draw the weapon? >> the reality is that we talk a lot about de-escalation, right? in de-escalation, you want to give people common courtesy. i get there's no such thing as a routine traffic stop, to be clear. an officer will tell you that things can go poorly and badly, every day and twice on sunday. we could debate what the propriety of the gun, i say it shouldn't be out. but let's say, hey, it needed to come out, it's for my own protection. what i'm concerned about is what happened thereafter. >> let's go to the next clip, joey. a moment of where they went from there with george floyd. here it is. >> walk with me. >> ow! >> are you on something right now? >> no, nothing. >> you're acting erratic. >> i'm scared. >> you have -- >> yeah, i opened it up earlier.
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>> all right. okay. >> context? >> the context is, in the event that someone like this ended up dead, you would expect they're fighting, kicking, moving, twisting, they're engaging in behavior that the officers feel they need to subdue. and so to your point about context, we're all left with the question of why this had to happen. >> drugs, drugs, joey. he was on drugs. you heard him ask, foam around the mouth. >> so drugs, right? if someone's on drugs, that otherwise necessitates the death penalty. it necessitates you putting the knee on the neck. >> crazy strength with the drugs, joey. they can't control him. >> i don't see the crazy strength. i know you're being the devil's advocate here.
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when you look for context, the imminency of fear for my life, fear for harm, i don't see it. the fact that i don't see it, juries will determine what they determine, in evaluating it in fairness, i don't see why the officers had to apply at the end of the day the force that was applied. >> let's see that force. you don't have to be a lawyer to know this -- what was the reasonable reaction to what they were getting? there's this ugly analysis that happens for too many people in every case like this, where they say, if you don't comply, you asked for it. the death penalty for noncompliance? that's what you have to remember. that's perspective, this is the next moment of use of force. listen very carefully to what you're hearing. please, it's not easy, pay attention. >> i mean -- >> should we roll him on his side?
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>> now, very hard, they're going to have to transcribe it, here's what we have figured out. you tell me if you get something else. obviously you hear a declining rhythm from mr. floyd. you know, he's sighing, he is getting slower and slower in his response. the officer says, should we turn him on the side? i'm worried about the drug delirium. whatever he's getting in terms of feedback is in the negative. >> listen, officers protect us every day, we get that, they have a difficult job, i get that. i'm not here to bad mouth or besmirch the character of officers that are out there protecting us every day. but when something's wrong, we need to say so. is that enough?
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don't we expect and anticipate that you do more? and at what point do you do that? >> we have a duty for our officers to do more. >> without question. and so the bottom line is that, did you intervene or just say, should we turn him over? does that absolve you of sin? should we turn him over? or perhaps you should intervene and turn him over and check the other officer for engaging in misbehavior. >> he's a new officer and the other guy is the veteran, the training officer. this guy's just the rookie. >> so every day, we ask jurors when we're in the court, we say, use your common sense and good judgment. and i think officers also have to use their common sense and good judgment. trainer or no trainer. you have a decision to make. a person is crying for their mother, they can't breathe. is saying, turn him over now, do you think we should turn him over? does that absolve you of sin? let's let the jury determine that. i think the jury will say, the officer didn't do enough. >> this is what jurors will be
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seeing. this will be some of the raw stuff with which they have to process. was it reasonable for the officers to do what they did? joey jackson, thank you very much for giving us the experience of what you've learned in these situations and how it will be analyzed. appreciated. and again, bless the family. >> thank you, chris. thank you so much. we'll keep putting the pieces together, every time i get new perspective, ever time i think i can forward this and forward your understanding, we will bring it, we will not forget. we remember the pledge for justice. fairness on all sides. our president keeps touting our coronavirus testing. it is a con. do you understand? results are taking way too long. i don't have to tell you, you've heard it, you've heard it from your own family or from families that you care about. one day, five days, seven days, ten days, 12 days, 14 days. how? it's just that way, you can't do anything about it. really? look right across the pond, okay?
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if you want proof that it can be so much better here, you can look somewhere else and see that places are doing better that have no distinct advantage over us. the british government now has millions of coronavirus tests that can give you answers in 90 minutes or less. let's get some perspective from dr. ashish jha. welcome back to "prime time." you know this is making me crazy. did the uk develop some technology that is proprietary? did they come up with some
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secret sauce we could have never had here? >> good evening, chris. thanks for having me on. the answer is no. the technology they are using to roll out millions of tests next week, we have that technology, and we have companies that can make those tests. we just haven't had a strategy that allows us to ramp up to millions of those tests being available for the american people. >> let's go through it. president trump says harvard, i love harvard. ashish jha, love him. great name. sounds norwegian, i'm going to call him. you have all the money, everybody's at your disposal, can you do what the uk did here? what would it take and how long would it take? what are the answers? >> the short answer is absolutely, it takes more than -- like, the uk is rolling it it out next week, we can't roll it out next week, we've sat on this for six months. we could get this going in six to eight weeks.
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>> what are first three steps? first step is, we want to do it, okay? the president says, get all the hhs, jha, procurement guys in one room, this happens or you're all done. he leaves. great, what's the second step? >> the second step is, you have to identify the technologies, the companies that are going to work. there are a bunch. we've actually identified them. we went through a process and identified companies that can scale up large numbers of tests. then what you have to do, you have to help those companies scale up. they can't produce millions of tests on their own without help on supply chain, without help on generating capital. if they have to go to the capital market and issue bonds -- >> no, emergency order. make this stuff, it exists. the science you need, the chemicals you need, everything you need could be made in this country or procured from somebody else.
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let's say we need it now, aren't there places that have it? how did the uk get it? >> this is not a logistical challenge, this is a challenge of will, this is a challenge of desire to do this. and if we had applied the full weight and power of the u.s. government, we could have had millions of tests a day back within 15 minutes or half an hour, but we have not had the kind of strategy that would let us have that kind of testing. >> what difference would 90-minute turnarounds mean? >> we have people, as you noted earlier, waiting 7, 10, 14 days. first of all, it gets pretty useless by that time. they're spreading the virus by that time. 90 minutes is a game-changer, it lets you know right away, if you're infected you can get isolated. if you're not infected you can feel better and go about your business. so it's a huge difference, it
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would dramatically lower the number of infections, it would have a profound effect. >> put us back in school. put a lot of people back in workplaces, you'll have a way to do pool testing -- even if the accuracy level is lower, right? let's say it's only 40% or 50%, but doing it every day, you're going to catch more cases than every 14 days. having a 75% test. it's just simple math. one other thing i want to ask you about, that i don't understand. only 2.5% of italians have antibodies. despite them being one of the countries hardest hit, only 2.5% of them have antibodies, but their numbers are going in the right direction. where is the sense in that? >> yeah, so what we know from a lot of these studies is that even though italy -- north italy was hit pretty hard, a lot of folks -- only a small number were ultimately infected in the whole population. compare that to us. we've been hit very hard. our best guess is, probably less than 10% of the american people have gotten infected.
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i'm not totally surprised by the italy data. it just means that trying to go for herd immunity is a not good idea. >> i'm italian on both sides. i have tons of antibodies. that's why i'm going to do this plasma thing with sanjay to try to demystify it. i'm not going to fake it for people. they're going to know what's tricky about it. it's different than just having blood drawn. we'll take them through it, because it matters so much. thank you for letting people know it doesn't have to be the way it is here now. we can do better, and we can do better quickly. god bless you and your family. >> thank you. impeachment, remember that? i remember that's what we were concerned about, that was the crisis. it's over. but trump's legal troubles are not over. may not be. they're not over. why? there's new information on an investigation that the supreme court allowed to proceed. it's not being done by congress,
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okay? it started with those hush money payments. but now it's going further and it's going further from a law enforcement agency. former sdny attorney preet bharara is here, next. with our highest concentration of hyaluronic acid. visibly replumps skin. and reduces wrinkles. revitalift hyaluronic acid serum from l'oréal. . .
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trump's legal troubles go beyond hush payments to a porn star. a new filing by a manhattan prosecutor says they're looking into possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the trump organization. now, they also argue that their subpoena for his tax records was issued in connection with a complex financial investigation. the president's response? here it is. >> this is just a continuation of the witch hunt, it's democrat stuff. this is a continuation of the worst witch hunt in american history. >> let's bring in a legal mind that knows his way around the courts in new york, preet bharara. you look good now, preet, after some transmission issues.
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>> okay. >> anything different here? >> thank you. it's a little bit different. there's a confirmation by the d.a.'s office that they're looking at something broader than hush payments that have been at the crux of this going back some months. it's been known, because a record was made in the house of representatives when the president's former lawyer michael cohen came to testify, there was a suggestion there and also other reporting which the d.a. cites to, that it may be the case that trump and his organization were inflating income or assets to try to get loans from banks, there's a possibility of bank fraud and other kinds of fraud that they say are legitimate to issue a wide ranging subpoena. you will remember this has been litigated all the way up to the supreme court. the supreme court found that the president does not have absolute immunity from this kind of procedure from a district attorney's office, he has the same kinds of protections and rights you and i might have as private citizens. this is a final skirmish under
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the rules that operate with respect to everyone. and i would expect those subpoenas will have to be complied with very soon. >> what does that mean for taxes? >> it means that the d.a.'s office will get them, they'll remain secret. and also documents that relate to those tax returns. maybe communications between the companies and accountants. i know everyone has the question, but what's going to happen before the election, that's only by my count 92 days away. it will take some time to get those documents. there will still be some fighting about it. then they have to examine those documents, see if there's others they want to subpoena. the likelihood that there's going to be any huge, substantial action, that will be breaking news at the top of your show, before the election is low. >> what do you think of the idea that people are really reaching by thinking they'll be a smoking gun in the taxes? that he had these professionally prepared and filed and that's often done with an eye toward making sure the person, the filer is safe. you're not going to find anything in the taxes.
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>> you know, i don't know. i -- my perspective is always, you never know, you've seen very smart people, very wealthy people who you think would be buttoned down for their own protection, do very very stupid things and engage in very stupid frauds. we've seen that the trump foundation was run like a piggy bank for the family, you never know. i'm perfectly able to believe there's a lot of bad stuff in there. i'm also able to believe it was papered pretty well. i think it's impossible to know, which is not a satisfactory answer, but it's the truth. >> based on the filings at this point, you believe they will get the taxes, though? that will be the big takeaway. that someone got them. >> i do, this has been litigated at every level of federal court. the district court, the appellate court, and the supreme court of the united states. and the supreme court did not have a lot of patience with the arguments being made by the
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trump folks. the threshold for getting financial information is not as high as some people think pertaining to a subpoena. tax returns are more protected. usually you have to have a court order depending on the reason why you're seeking tax returns. there's a huge predicate laid down. both by testimony in the congress and by reporting and other things that the d.a.'s office may have been looking at. they may be looking at loan applications and other representations made by the trump folks and the trump companies to these banks. what they're missing is the support that trump may have support to those documents and numbers in his accountant's office. they may have a substantial amount of work done already. i don't see how he gets away with anything other than sort of trying to get the clock to wind down, and hope that the statute of limitations kicks in. >> of course, if people are saying, so what, how bad can it be, ask his former lawyer michael cohen. that's what put him away in the first place.
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exactly those kinds of charges. preet, appreciate you being with us. we've showed you the deep impact that the covid crisis is having on pro sports. right? now we have a high school football player facing the biggest test of his young life and it has nothing to do with football. he just lost both of his parents to covid days apart. he too tested positive. he's here tonight with a message for all of us in his mom and dad's loving memory. we hope they rest in peace. this young man has a lot of life in front of him. let's talk about it next. l rush of claritin cool mint chewables. powerful 24-hour, non-drowsy, allergy relief plus an immediate cooling sensation for your throat. live claritin clear. for only week only, save up to $30 on select claritin products. check this sunday's newspaper for details. and its mission is to give you truly transformative sleep.ress. so, no more tossing and turning... ...or trouble falling asleep...
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but if we want to change our reality, we have to deal with reality. and this is the reality. a georgia couple, who was doing it all right. they were taking necessary precautions. they were wearing masks. they still got sick. and they both lost their battle to covid, just last week. and they were young. eugene and angie hunter. they were in their 50s.
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they died, just days apart, at the same hospital. and it happened, fast. they tested positive for coronavirus, just the week before. they left a child on this earth. 17-year-old justin hunter. he tested positive with them, as well. thankfully, he's been asymptomatic. he joins us, now. young man, how you doing? >> i'm doing good. doing good. >> i know you're with family. how are you handling this, so far, in terms of, why do you think this happened? >> to be honest, i really don't know why it happened. i'm not really sure why it happened. but, i'm doing good. at first, i was very angry, very sad, and very confused. but i'm doing really good now.
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>> what's helping you along? what are you telling yourself, to keep yourself heading forward? >> that -- well, first of all, my parents are in a better place, and they aren't suffering at all. they're probably up there partying, having fun. and, second of all, god's got my back. >> tell me about your parents, and tell me about what this was like for them. >> they were, if you knew my parents, they were very loving, very caring. they would be -- they're the type to give, and not even expect anything to give back to them. they were -- theray were just se of the nicest people you would ever meet. >> did they have any, what we call, pre-existing conditions? were they sick? were they battling anything? i know they were young. they were in their 50s. >> no, sir, not that i know of.
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>> has anybody asked the doctors to explain why it took them so quickly? >> yes, sir, and we haven't -- they don't really have an explanation for it. >> when they told you, could you believe that this was happening to somebody, at your age? >> no, sir. i was shocked. i didn't believe it. >> just a few days apart. were you able to visit, at all? or they wouldn't let you in the hospital? >> they wouldn't let you in. >> and you're with family now? how is that going? >> it's going good. it's going good. i have a lot of support and a lot of -- i feel a lot of love coming from them. so, it's good. they're really helping me. >> you say your parents were good people. they gave. they gave you a lot. they, obviously, gave you the start that you needed because you're doing very well with your
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young life. what do you want people to know about them? in terms of telling the story of how they lived, as opposed to just what took their lives. >> how they lived? they really lived with no regrets. they -- they just lived their life. that's really all i can, really, say. is that they lived their life, and they were very successful in their life. and i want to be just like them, when i'm older. >> what do you want to do with your life? because i'm sure, now, as you're figuring out everything's going to have more meaning, for you. you're going to carry purpose because you know you have people looking down on you. and you're -- you know they're watching, and you know they're going to see what you do. what do you want to do with your life? >> i really -- i'd love to play college football, and then take it to the next level and may at the pros.
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and if that doesn't work, then i would like to go into cybersecurity. and just be the best at what i do, and do it for them. >> how are you keeping your spirits up? i am amazed by how you're handling this. i've got a daughter your age. i'm around people your age, all the time. what is giving you, what is a huge testament to your character that you've, got an incredible sense of perspective. why? what are you telling yourself you want people to know? >> well, first of all, my dad. he told me, in situations like this, i have two choices. the first choice is i can sit here, cry, you know, feel sorry for myself. and just kind of be useless, and not do any -- do anything.
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or i can cry, realize what happened, and accept what happened and move on from what happened. and do everything in their name and do everything for them, from now on. >> what was the last thing that mom told you? >> i love you. >> and those are the most powerful words, and they put in you a faith that god has your back, right? >> yes, sir. >> well, i have to tell you, i cannot imagine what you're having to deal with. but when they put those kinds of ideas in your head and in your heart, that's the most powerful armor that you could have to protect you against the kind of pain that comes with this. and i know -- i know you have family. i know you have people who care about you, and you're going to have more than you know. i know there's a go fund me page. i am going to put up the information right now because
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you should have arms around you. and it's in honor of the hunter family. people can see it there up on the screen. and i want to make you an offer through your family who is taking care of you. when you are ready, when we are allowed to do so, because everything's crazy right now and you have school and you have to figure out and the season's going to be shortened, if you have it at all. i know you got to deal with a lot of things. when you guys are ready, i want to bring you up here, i want to show you the city. i want to help you live your life and understand that even though your parents are gone, there are going to be a lot of people who want to put their arms around you. you are going to make them proud, and i can't wait to see it, justin. >> thank you so much. >> no, thank you. thank you for letting us see how someone who is so young, who has every reason to be looking down, is looking up to where their parents are and to god's strength and direction to go forward. you are an amazing testment to yo
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testament to your parents, and i hope you keep being that, every step of the way. and we'll be watching. >> thank you. >> god bless you, young man. justin hunter. our thanks to him. and we'll let you know how he's doing, if he wants. he is so courageous. let's carry that courage into more coverage of what matters to all of us, together. let's continue it, right now. we all want this to be over. it's not going to just be over because we want it to. not until a couple of things happen. you have to act together, as people who, collectively, want the same thing. we're saying we want the same thing, but we're not doing the things that we need to do. and we have to demand, of our leaders, local, state,
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