hello to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. thank you for sharing this day with us. we begin today with the coronavirus crisis. new questions about whether the president six months in still doesn't get the basings about how viruses spread, how testing works and how cherry picking statistics can backfire. the election is 13 weeks from today. and the president is determined to close the coronavirus chapter of this most challenging year. >> right now i think it's under control. >> how?

1,000 americans are dying a day. >> that's true. it is what it is but that doesn't mean we aren't doing everything we can. it is under control as much as you can control it. >> it is what it is. the president right there says of wide scale american deaths, that statement and the longer interview of axios in which that statement was made it is worth your viewing and your study, whatever your politics. the united states did not do everything it could. it is still not doing everything it can to slow and stop this stubborn virus and the president either not understanding or repeatedly choosing to play down the threat is a big part of why the united states leads the world in cases and in deaths. that said, there are positive developments this morning, the top line daily case number down again, just over 45,000 new infections yesterday. arizona, california and florida. three big trouble spots in the summer surge are seeing their numbers come down. it is the president's view that

the united states tests too much and that cutting down testing will cut down the case numbers. >> there are those that say you can test too much. you do know that. >> who say that is? >> read the manuals. read the books. >> manuals? what manuals? >> read the books. >> what books? >> what books? it is unclear what books and manuals the president is referring to. he never filled in that blank. also not how health metrics work. every expert and those on the president's payroll said testing is essential to understanding the spread and to knowing whether the virus is under control. this map shows the positivity rate and where the positivity rate is going up. 33 states, that's red, currently heading in the wrong direction meaning 33 states with a higher percentage of positive tests than the previous week. that means the virus is spreading. not as the president says

receding. remember back in mid-june he used the word fading? take a look. averaging 20,000 cases back then when the president said it was fading. it is three times that now. 60,000 cases a day is important context with the map. the map is improving but improoui improving from 60,000 new infections a day and be encouraged by this, 8 states heading up. 28 states, that's the beige, holding steady. 14 states, the green, heading down. when you look at the map it is much more encouraging than it's been. that's from a baseline of 60 cas -- 60,000 cases a day. we have learned this. new deaths in the past week heading up even as cases come down a little bit. deaths always track cases and follow hospitalizations. 27 states reporting more deaths in the past week than the previous week. ten holding steady. 13 heading down.

hopefully this map improves if the first map is improved for a consistent period of time. new case trend, seven-day moving trend, july is a horrible month. are we seeing a plateau? maybe a bit of a dip. sunday and monday below 50,000 cases 2 days in a row. sometimes coming out of a week the numbers are distorted. that's a high baseline, 20,000 back in june. close to 50,000 here. let's see if that continues. the death trend also down in recent days. you saw the high number. let's hope july 29th just shy of 1,100. every one of them sad but let us hope that this line continues. sometimes coming out of the weekend the numbers are distorted but hope that stays down. in the axios interview the president had a sparring with the reporter over how to judge

the united states versus the world. this is what the president says. the united states at the moment is doing much better he says than most of the world. because he says if you look at the coronavirus cases an enthen the death rate, the mortality, the united states in the president's view below germany in the way he looks at the s statistics. most medical professionals would say confirmed deaths per 100,000 residents back to may. this is germany. this is south korea. this is the united states of america. way up here. this again a point of contention as the president sat down with axios. >> we're lower than the world. >> lower than the world? what is that? >> europe. >> in what? in what? >> take a look. right here. here's case deaths. >> oh, you are doing death as a proportion of cases. i'm saying death as a proportion of population. >> you can't do that. >> with me to share expertise is

chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. you can do that because it's the facts, sanjay. and that's what's interesting to watch the president. in the entirety of the interview but start there to cherry pick a statistic that he says make the case but looking at the data is there any way to sit there and say the united states is doing much better than the rest of the world? much better than europe at this moment? >> no. sadly, the answer to that question is, no, john. people look at the right side of the screen and be reminded from an absolute number standpoint we represent 20% to 25% of the infections in the world and 20% to 25% of the deaths in the world. those are the absolute numbers. the relative risks are interesting but maybe a little bit of a red herring. the way to think about it is this. we are humans living on the planet and what's the likelihood to die if you get this infection? just all comers, old, young,

men, women, everybody, we don't have the exact number but seeming to hover around .6%, .7%. okay? so that's lower than 1%. about 6 to 7 times higher than flew and humans with health care, goet to a hospital, that should be the death rate. here in the united states it is closer to 3% so it's 5 times higher than what the average death rate should be because people don't get to hospitals and influences the death rate. the biggest issue is how many people are getting infected. that is really the number you have to pay attention to. where the death rate settles over time we will see. but you got to bring the number of people who are getting infected down. trying to make amends on the rates versus 100,000 and the country doesn't make a difference clearly. not the people that died. how do you evaluate this? if the death rate is the same

for human beings over the planet, bring the overall infection numbers down to make a dent. >> it does make a difference in this context, in the sense that the election is 13 weeks from today. some states start voting five weeks from today and the president is trying to convince people he is doing a better i don't know than other countries around the world and more here from the axios interview about the united states versus the world. >> right now spain is having a big spike and there are tremendous problems in the world. you look at moscow, what is going on with moscow. brazil. look at these countries what's going on. >> if you just listen to that and you believe the president, yes, this is hard for everybody but the united states is doing much better than spain and brazil, russia. let's look at the numbers. this is the united states versus other countries in terms of total confirmed cases per 100,000 residents and that blue line at the top is the united states. look how high the united states

and the trajectory. you see spain, france, china, russia. i'm suspect of the numbers of china just like the president is. let's look at it another way. the seven-day average of moving cases, the united states way at the top. you can argue that's starting to bend down if you want to make that case and spain has a spike. you see it right there but the united states is way at the top there. there's simply no way to listen to the president. that's just not believable. >> no. so these graphs tell the stories. so now we look at cases. previous graphs is death rates. human beings presumably we're all pretty similar. if the death rate is really about .6%, keep that in the back of your mind with this discussion over next several weeks and months. now case count because that's speaking to how much virus is spread in this country, how widespread did it become? we lost month of february and march. it continued to spread during

that time and now seeing the ramifications of this. that tells the more significant story here, john, in terms of where we are in the world. can we bring these numbers down? when you look at these places that have had resurgences, any time you start to open things upper with going to see an increase in numbers. can you handle it? can you immediately do enough testing and tracing to at least tamp it down? or not let it go into exponential growth? we are about to go into school season again. when we came out of the schools, there were about 4,000, 5,000 people that died in this country and -- i'm sorry, 4,000, 5,000 infected, a few dozen that died and now open up schools where you have 155,000 who died and 4.7 million infected. what is the difference between then and now? are we in a better position? more robust testing? available testing? we are doing more tests but not

enough to actually open up these institutions in a safe way so that's the concern. >> let me jump in on that point because again in this interview and i played some sound on sunday from admiral giroir and month after month he says we are getting a handle on this. this is the president. remember, it was back in late march, early april saying anybody that wants a test can get a test. that is still not true today. here's the president's current assessment on testing. >> we've come up with so many different tests, the only thing we have now is some people have to wait longer than we'd like them to. >> a big problem. >> we want point to point, a five-minute to 15-minute test. >> when do you think -- >> like many others -- >> every american. >> we are close to 50%, where it's point to point test. >> when do you think we'll have it for everyone? what day? >> i think you will have that relatively soon. >> is he right about the relatively soon part point to

point, reliable rapid testing? >> well, i don't know, john. there have been these emergency use authorizations coming about for the antigen tests different than the genetic tests we have been talking about. the problem is they're not that accurate. if you're getting a high false negative rate, test 100 people and 20 told they're negative but they're positive that's a problem. they think they're negative and spreading the virus. so you know, the emergency use authorizations that i have seen have been of a concerning high false negative rate so you got to have a rapid test, got to be accurate and got to be the point of locations. like to have it at schools, nursing homes, places like that. we are not near that at all and be clear. we could have been. right? we are not talking about sending a rocket ship to the moon here but significant testing bre breakthroughs three, four months ago. let's get the point of care testing so it's widely

available. that would be like looking at the app for the weather. do i have it today? do i need to carry an umbrella? that's the metaphor. people making decisions to send kids back to school in an uncertain environment. we don't know and we don't know what we don't know right now. >> we are still saying things like that. very much appreciate your help breaking down, separating fact from spin in that interview. up next, new reporting, dr. birx bothered, stung by the president's attack we're told. she gave an accurate assessment of the pandemic. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out.

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meeting this afternoon. dr. fauci and dr. redfield are among those who like dr. birx angered him. pathetic is the term the president used to attack birx. after she said the pandemic is spreading more and more in rural america. kaitlan, let's start with you. let's listen to the president yesterday describing how i met with dr. birx, we'll be fine. >> i told dr. birx i think we are doing very well. she was in my office a little while ago. she's a person i have a lot of respect for. i think nancy pelosi's treated her very badly, very, very badly, very nasty. >> nancy pelosi has said she doesn't trust her. the president called her pathetic because he was not happy that she said that the virus is spreading and she said in places where it is spreading in some places you have to keep schools closed. >> reporter: yeah. john, basically he argued he thought the reason she was

saying that, giving that blunt assessment of the outbreak in the u.s. is as a direct response to nancy pelosi criticizing her and saying that she was enabling the president to spread misinformation. we're told by sources that dr. birx was stung by that comment about her where the president called her performance pathetic and been warned something that could happen and everyone has seen what happened with the president and dr. fauci and contradicting other officials in the administration but one thing we were told that the president bothered by is not just what she said about the spread in the united states but also that she said she had tremendous respect for speaker pelosi asked about the direct criticisms she's lobbed at her and it is anyone's guess how this goes from here, how this progresses because she does have a job here in the west wing. she is someone that briefs the president regularly but it does show how the president isn't just disagreeinging with dr. fauci. he is also disagreeing with the coordinator of the task force and even the testing chief,

disagreeing with him over hydroxychloroquine. >> josh, to that point one of my favorite moments yesterday was chuck grassley, longest serving republican senator on capitol hill, zen from senator grassley saying saw on tv the president took exception to an interview dr. birx said. i hope the president knows she is a scientist and not a politician. use love, not anger. little zen from senator grassley there which is important. the president shouldn't be fighting with his own people and triply important with the moment we're in. the president needs to prove to voters he has a handle on this and when you see this infighting on the team will they have a consistent communication strategy more importantly a consistent public health strategy going forward when they can't agree on so much? >> as kaitlan said, the president has repudiated the public health experts. you have a number of folks in

the white house, john, who have not wanted to talk about coronavirus and then convincing the president to do more briefings and had to talk about it when the poll numbers slipped so far. what's frustrating to the advisers around the president is that they thought they had 90 days or so to come back. they want to come back and beat joe biden and every day they fight with deborah birx, dr. fauci or fighting among each other on the coronavirus. they're not prosecuting joe biden in the way they want to. and trying to convince voters that they should not like joe biden and pick trump instead and last week or two weeks ago i guess you saw several days of news stories of fights with dr. fauci and now the president disagreeing with his other main coronavirus expert, basically the president is trying to paint a picture that things are going well and that things are improving, the data is trending in the right way and when people

say things contrary to that they often find themselves on the back end of a tweet. >> the people who are living this every day out in real america get it because if you see a stunning number for the president, shows 90 days out joe biden has a lead but look at this one. this is from gallup. are you satisfied with the way things are going in the country? 20% of republicans say they're satisfied. august 2019, 6 in 10 republicans said that a year ago. 12% of independents and 7% of democrats. why this is so significant is asking anybody, biden versus trump question, you put the president's name or the political party in it, a lot of americans will go back to the tribal instinct, are you satisfied with the way the country is going? that number there, 20% of republicans think they're satisfied with the way the country is going. if you are an incumbent, you are in a deep ditch. >> reporter: yeah. he has three months to fix this

and some people do not feel optimistic you can turn this around from where he is now because you can ask the question of president trump versus noebd but president trump is the one in office and presiding over this and people saw what happened when they tried to go get tested initially and told they could not unless they were symptomatic and if they get a test then they have to wait several days to get results. people see that and out of work and 115,000 americans are dead so that is something that people are thinking of and an issue for them and so as much as the president tried to make this about joe biden and his age and health or about the cultural battles to tried so hard to put at the front and center of this, the pandemic is incredibly important to voters and what they're going to be considering and the trump campaign knows that and so notable to talk about the advertising over the last few days, we looked at this tracker saying that for the entire month of july the trump campaign did not run a single ad

that mentioned the pandemic. so that gives you an indication of not only where the campaign sees how voters are rejecting the president's handling of it but the fact that the president doesn't want to focus on that and not running on the response to that but likely judged on it. >> that gallup number, if you're the president you got a ditch and dig yourself out of quickly to win. appreciate that very much. now a new court document that says that perhaps the troubles of the president goes much further. the manhattan district attorney argued monday that the president's accountants should have to comply for a subpoena for eight years of the president's tracks returns, part of the argument it's vital to investigations, plural. joining me is shimon prokupecz. take us inside what that means. >> reporter: yeah. certainly this document i think gives us a better look inside

what those investigations involve. there was always these questions, i was puzzled why were prosecutors wanting to go so far back to 2011 looking at donald trump's tax records, his tax returns and the documents that were used by the accounting firm to make these tax documents. what we learned yesterday is that this investigation is -- goes far beyond the hush money payments, of course, that we're all familiar with and what prosecutors say in the documents filed yesterday is bank fraud perhaps allegations here and write specifically that they're looking at what they believe are substantially related to among things alleged insurance and bank fraud by the trump organization and its officers so they're looking deep into very clear that they're looking deep into the trump organization. trump's attorneys have been arguing that this subpoena is asking for too much, going too

far, it is unfair. in many ways what we hear from the president himself, how this is harassment. prosecutors have an answer for that and they're saying it's based on a lot of their information of the public records that are out there, news reports that have been out there that have been looking into the president's finances and what they write is that there are public reports of possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the trump organization. again, and they're arguing nothing improper for them to seek this information as part of their investigation going back eight years and looking for the documents from the accounting firm and the president's attorneys arguing they go too far, trying to go too far back in this and important to note that michael cohen is a witness for the prosecution, met with them many times here at the manhattan's d.a.'s office and federal judge has already decided on a lot of these issues

that the president's attorneys are arguing that this is unfair, going too far so it could be that we could see a decision here very soon and perhaps this can move quicker than we all think. >> we'll watch it. one of the many bouncing balls to keep an eye on. up next, running out of time. school districts facing a dilemma on whether and how to reopen. i like liberty mutual. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car

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teachers in bibb county, georgia, returned to work. there's a wait and see debate playing out in districts across america. the reopening was delayed until after labor day and officials will decide two weeks before the new september 8th start day to open classrooms or begin with remote learning. the county is in central georgia including macon. a report lists the county as a red zone because it is adding new cases quickly, more than 500 in the last week. overall, 3,214 cases, 61 deaths in the county. with me is the supervisor of thedistrict, curtis jones jr. thank you for your time as you way this out. so already you have 22,000 students, 8,000 parents have already chosen the option of remote learning.

that's more than a third of your parents saying i'm going to keep my child at home no matter what you decide. so what does that tell you about the safety worries in your community? >> thank you, mr. king. it is a pleasure to be with you. it tells me that concern is great. we are still getting parents who had opted for the in-person instruction asking if we will reopen that window so more can apply. people have become more and more concerned and wondering what is going to happen so what we can do to keep them safe and nervous to be quite truthful. >> i applaud what you are trying to do and the colleagues across the country. in your case preparing for a number of scenarios. is it more difficult for you as a superintendent to say we may have both approach, we might have some children in the classroom, might have a lot of people, a third or more now doing remote learning? is that more difficult than one or the other? >> it is more difficult to be honest. what we are trying to do is take

a teacher and dedicate a teacher to just doing remotte learning so if you have three teachers in third grade, two may be doing in-person and one doing remotte and that way they can plan together but what we're finding is working through the numbers and doesn't quite work out and we have some teachers considering having to do both, teach remotely as well as have kids in class so they have a camera turned on in the classroom and extremely difficult so we continue to work it to see if we can move students around so maybe they will have a teacher from a different school for remote learning. >> interesting way to at least look at the options. this is a -- >> we are trying. >> intentionally personal, intensely local decision. advice from washington. the president in all caps saying open the schools last night. there's no science behind that. but listen here to dr. fauci, the top infectious disease expert making a case if you can, if it is safe you would much

rather have a student in the classroom. >> the default position should be to try as best as you possibly can to open up the schools for in-person learning. it is important for the children because of the psychological benefit and in some places even for the nutrition. >> superintendent, on the last point there, the psychological, children that might need the presence of a teacher, counseling, somebody just a friend to get eye to eye look to see how they do, nutrition, lower income kids, where they get the meals, in the schools. how have you had to learn the lessons if you will of the closing of the school year several months back and apply them to take care of those needs in this new environment? >> so it's been very difficult to work through that but the staff did a great job. when students come to the school we know that we take the

temperature first thing coming inside. we are buying kiosks to take the temperature. all of our students, the schools have a school nurse or a medical professional to help us with that. lunch will be different. in the spring we had students who went to the cafeteria, sat down and ate. now we will have students go to the cafeteria and bring it back to the classroom or the cafeteria staff bring it to them and we have maxed the class size at 15. i did a tour yesterday of two of our schools and saw what it looked like. we are able to get 5 to 5 1/2 feet distance between students to separate and we're going to ask students and teachers to wear a mask. to the maximum extent possible and enforce that because i believe it's what the staff and students need. >> curtis jones jr., sir, grateful for your time. i wish you and your colleagues

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some new coronavirus case numbers and hospitalization data out of florida. at least 45 hospitals in that state reached icu capacity, meaning there are no beds currently available. another 34 hospitals we are told have 10% or fewer icu beds available. this comes as we're told florida heading to surpass 500,000 cases as of likely by tomorrow. it would be the second state to do so after california. just today florida reporting more than 5,000 new cases, 245 new deaths, 5,400 new cases there but down from the height of the summer surge. here in washington it is back to the negotiating table for top congressional democrats and white house officials trying for a week now to hammer out the deal on a relief package.

today's meeting is both sides far apart on key irses but they describe the talks as productive. sources say they're nowhere close to an agreement this as a sober and somewhat contradicting assessment of the pandemic. today here on cnn kevin hasett says another economic shutdown in some parts of the country just might be necessary. >> it is something in pockets of the country to make sense because there's places where the positivity rate of the test is above 20%, the cases expand quickly and basically everything you saw in new york, you know, way back in march is happening and so for me it does dpeel like some places are too open. >> when we come back, five states voting today in primary elections. a big test for mail-in voting and in kansas for republicans there's a sense of deja vu all over again. apps are used everywhere...

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so-called squad is in a contested primary and republicans are watching kansas. a hardliner is running in the senate primary and establishment republicans worry if he wins they lose the seat in november and make holding the majority even more difficult. with me now is nia-malika henderson and jonathan martin. let's start with kansas. the president said he's staying out of it but if you watch chris kovacs ads president trump seems to be for him. >> so a man that's been with me from the beginning, he is tough, strong. he is a tireless champion for border security. chris kovacs. >> even as a representative he's listened to the farmers. >> honest. >> faithful in the faith in god. >> career poll terns always stick us with the tab. it's time to send in the plumber

to drain the swamp. >> as you can see there, dr. marshal has bob dole support. pat roberts that's retiring. he was the nominee of governor last time and a democratic governor of kansas and republicans are worried here we go again. >> that ad that you played from 2018 when trump did wade in and endorsed him, got him the nomination and then only to see him lose the general election and because of that a lot of mcconnell's lieutenants thought they could get the president to oppose him if not endorse marshal this time around but he has not done it and in part i think the president is concerned about his base. he sees the numbers sagging and doesn't want to alienate the supporters but the challenge of republicans facing where they're trying to use president trump

for their own purposes and sometimes works out and sometimes doesn't and didn't because ted cruz used a trip on air force one with the president last week to lobby the president away from weighing in on the race reminding president trump in the 2016 primary roger marshal supported john kasich now one of the most outspoken anti-trump figures in the gop. so a lot of backstage, back room lobbying, pushing and pulling with trump to get him to play in this race when he stayed out of it. >> grudge matches in politicians. if you look at the current balance of power. the two independents caucus with the democrats. so to pick up, the primary elections today, to pick up control of the senate depending on who wins the presidency, the republicans need a net gain of

three or four. they already have six republican incount incumbents who are in tough races. if you take republican held seats like kansas, a primary in tennessee for a republican held seat on thursday plens are nervous about, the math is harder for republicans if they get the wrong people as the nominee. >> that's right. the math is harder and why? it's because of the suburban voters, republicans looking at the folks, white suburban college educated voters who used to be for trump in many ways. you saw in 2018 something of a shift with those voters and the same thing going on now. you think about kansas, the opponent if he wins to run against is essentially a moderate woman that used to be a republican and if she goes up him that mean that is the gop has to pend that much more time

and money in kansas which hasn't had a democratic senator in many, many, many decades so the math is tougher. which is why they're hoping that tonight there is some sort of answer. the problem again with an answer tonight is this mail-in voting. right? it might not be named for a couple -- known for a couple days whether or not -- who wins this race. >> patience is a virtue. >> john, real fast, let me just add that i think that the gop challenge in the senate is much more profound than just kansas. >> right. >> what's frustrating to mcconnell and company is that they would have to spend more money in kansas this fall to save the seat and kovacs is the nominee and then in their caucus for next six weeks and why kansas is frustrating but let's be candid here. their majorities are in real peril even if you put kansas

aside. >> absolutely, absolutely it is. all that's tied to the president's numbers right now. we'll continue the conversation. jonathan, nia-malika, appreciate it. a running mate, a hopeful makes the case on what she would bring to the ticket.

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joe biden is still deliberating about the vice presidential pick and that means we will not get the choice this week as initially promised a. member of the former vice

president's team say it is vetting is now done and mr. biden wants to take a week and a half to spend time with the finalist. that means there's more time for those on the short list to publicly or privately make the case. one person we know on the list, the former obama national security adviser susan rice and did not ever run for office and asked this morning if she understands and can relate to americans that support president trump she said yes, this one's personal. >> i think i have a good understanding, maybe not a perfect understanding in part, steve, because as i write in my book i have a 23-year-old son whom i love dearly whose politics are very, very different from my own. my son and i will have some robust disagreements over some matters of policy, not all, and yet at the end of the day i love him dearly and he loves me. >> that's the way it's supposed to be, right?

disagree, fight, still love. no choice this week. the former vice president continuing his deliberations. the lobbying quite public. thank you for joining us today. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. have a good afternoon. i'm brianna keilar and i want to welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. the president of the united states says it is what it is coming to americans dying from the virus. more than 155,000 americans. and he once again pushed lies, conspiracies and falsely says that the virus is under control in a cloud of delusion hurting the nation's response to the coronavirus. let's begin with what matters first and foremost, the public health crisis. these are the trends. as the rate of florida's new case numbers goes down, the state still has 45 hospitals that have no room in their