disagree, fight, still love. no choice this week. the former vice president continuing his deliberations. the lobbying quite public. thank you for joining us today. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. have a good afternoon. i'm brianna keilar and i want to welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. the president of the united states says it is what it is coming to americans dying from the virus. more than 155,000 americans. and he once again pushed lies, conspiracies and falsely says that the virus is under control in a cloud of delusion hurting the nation's response to the coronavirus. let's begin with what matters first and foremost, the public health crisis. these are the trends. as the rate of florida's new case numbers goes down, the state still has 45 hospitals that have no room in their icus.

in arizona, the state logging more than 2,000 hospitalizations on monday and the top education official says it's still not safe for kids there to go back to school in person. then there are states that are going in the wrong direction. states like arkansas and west virginia and kentucky which had been trending in the right direction. they're now reporting more than 600 hospitalizations in 1 day. they hadn't seen a day like that in more than a week. remember, we were warned about the spread into rural areas, heard that from dr. birx. president trump called her pathetic for that bit of truth and now hearing that she is troubled by the trump attack but it's just another in a long line of trump attacks on health experts. also today, lawmakers are said to be nowhere near a deal on the second round of stimulus relief as millions of americans suffer. nancy pelosi tells cnn the price tag to settle for is $3.4 trillion, the reality of right now which really doesn't match up with where president trump

insists we are. we heard a lot from the president in a new interview with axios, on the pandemic and controlling the virus and other subjects but let's start with the president talking about coronavirus testing. >> we have tested more people than any other country, than all of europe put together times two. we have tested more people than anybody ever thought of. india with 1.4 billion people. they did 11 million. we have done 55, close to 60 million tests and, you know, there are those that say you can test too much. you do know that. >> who say that is? >> just read the manuals. read the books. >> manuals? what manuals? >> read the books. >> what books? >> what testing does -- >> i'm sorry. wait a minute. >> let me explain. what testing does it shows cases, where there may be cases. other countries test, you know when they test? when somebody's sick. that's when they test. i'm not saying they're right or

wrong. nobody's done it like we have done it. we have absolutely no credit for it. >> dr. jonathan reiner is professor of medicine at george washington university. thank you so much for being with us. is that a thing, can you test too much? >> no. you can't test too much. just ask the white house now. they're looking to test more to protect the president and that same strategy to protect the country is what just about every public health expert is suggesting. we are not doing enough testing in the country. if you look at the positivity rate at the u.s. as a whole it is about 7.8% right now. it needs to be much lower, down to 1% to 2% before we'll really have this crisis under control. so we need to test more and more and more. >> and the president, it was interesting, brought -- we have seen this before. brought charts and graphs to talk about deaths in america.

>> if you look at death -- >> going up again. >> let's look. >> daily death. >> take a look at some of these charts. >> i would love to. >> if you look at death -- >> starting to go up again. >> here's one. right here united states is lowest in numerous categories. we're lower than the world. >> lower than the world? >> lower than europe. >> in what? in what? >> take a look. right here. here's case death. >> oh, you are doing death as a proportion of cases. i'm talking about population. that's where the u.s. is really bad. much worse than south korea, germany, et cetera. >> you can't do that. >> why not? >> you have to go by -- you have to go by -- look. here's the united states. you have to go by the cases. the cases -- >> why not as a proportion of population? >> it says when you have somebody that has -- where there's a case -- >> okay. >> the people that live --

>> surely an el vant statistic to say population and death of that population. >> you have to go by the cases. >> what did you think of that moment? >> yeah. really disgraceful. the u.s. has by far the largest number of deaths in the world. and if you look at, everyone on a per capita basis, the u.s. has about 480 deaths per million population. if you look at countries like germany, it's 110. japan, it's 8. so any way you look at it we have an unacceptable number of deaths in the united states. and although it had dropped, you know, towards the end of the spring it's risen again to almost 1,000 deaths per day so really unacceptable. the president was talking about case fatality rates. no one really knows what the

case fatality rate is. no one knows the true number of cases is and frankly any success on keeping the mortality rate for individual cases low goes to my brothers and sisters on the front lines in hospitals around the united states who have run into the fire in an effort to put this inferno out. very little to do with this administration. >> we are hearing from them. it is like they're building the boat they're riding in as they cross the river. it is a monumental task. >> right. >> they're doing the best they can. the president was asked about his message to his followers. >> here's the question. i have covered you for a long time. i have gone to your rallies, talked to people. they love you. they listen to you. every word. they don't listen to me or the media or fauci. they think we're fake news. when they hear you say

everything's under control, don't worry about wearing masks, many older people. >> it is under control. yeah, under the circumstances -- >> a false sense of security. >> i tell you what -- >> 1,000 americans are dying a day. >> they're dying. that's true. it is what it is. it is under control as much as you can control it. this is a horrible plague that bessette us. >> this is as much as we can control? 1,000 deaths a day? >> i like to know if somebody -- first of all, we have done a great job. gotten the governors everything they needed. >> mr. president, you changed the message this week in terms of you canceled the jacksonville convention, said wear a mask, saying that it's going to get worse before it gets better. not something you like to say. >> not like the original flow, you understand that. but -- >> i hope not. >> now you look -- arizona is going down. >> if i could just finish my question. >> texas and florida is going

down. >> are you going to even some of your own aides wonder whether you would stick to that message until election day in a week or two you won't say, right, we have to reopen again. can't do this stuff anymore. that you get bored of talking about the virus and go back to that sort of cheerleading. >> i never get bored of talking about this. it is too big a thing. >> what did you think when he said it is what it is talking about the number of people dying. is it what it is? >> really painful. you know? i've lost family to coronavirus. my closest friends have lost family to coronavirus. and soon just about every american is going to be separated maybe by only one from knowing somebody who has lost -- been lost to coronavirus. it is what it is makes it seem like we are powerless. just about every other industrialized country around the world has had success in suppressing this virus because their leadership is willing to

do the hard things and then stick with it. this president has not. this president was super slow to test widely. very, very slow. this president only about a week ago was willing to be photographed in public wearing a mask. this president actually has no national policy for testing. he's outsourced this to the states and now he throws the hands up saying it is what it is. it's incredibly distressing. our greatest failing in handling this pandemic has been a lack of leadership. you know? many of the governors or several of the governors certainly both republican and democrat have risen to the challenge. but it would have been much more effective if we had a national strategy, a strategy for opening, a strategy for testing, a strategy for social distancing and mask wearing, a requirement for everyone in this country. and now, now the president says it is what it is.

as if there was nothing that could be done. >> dr. reiner, thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. the president was also asked about other subjects like russian bounties on american soldiers. but it was his answer on the late congressman john lewis that is really raising eyebrows. it seemed simple. right? say something nice about an american hero but here is what we heard instead. >> how do you think history will remember john lewis? >> i don't know. i really don't know. i don't know. i don't know john lewis. he chose not to come to my inauguration. he chose -- i don't -- i never met john lewis actually. i don't believe. >> do you find him impressive? >> i can't say one way or the other. i find a lot of people impressive. >> do you find his story impressive. >> he didn't come to my inauguration. he didn't come to my state of the union speeches. that's okay. that's his right.

and again, nobody has done more for -- >> back to -- >> -- black americans than i have. he should have come. >> taking your relationship with him out of it, do you find his story impressive, what he's done for this country. >> he was a person that devoted a lot of energy and heart to civil rights but there were many others also. >> there's a petition to rename the edmund pettus bridge in selma, alabama, as the john lewis bridge. would you support that idea? >> i would have no objection to it. >> it is a good idea? >> no objection to it whatsoever. >> reverend warnock is pastor of ebenezer baptist church in atlanta and a democratic candidate for a u.s. senate seat in georgia. thank you so much for being with us today. you presided over congressman lewis' funeral last week, a beautiful service for what was really a loss for the country and i wonder what your reaction

to the president's remarks, what is your reaction? >> thank you so much. it's good to be here with you. john lewis by every definition of the word is an american hero. he is the embodiment of what patriotism looks like. what we have seen in this president is narcissism masquerading for patriotism. it is a sad response but i have to say i'm not terribly surprised. >> john lewis did not go to the president's inauguration. he also did not go to george w. bush's inauguration. this would not be something that's particularly unusual here in recent years and yet you saw the former president, president bush speaking at lewis' funeral. what do you make of that allegation from president trump? >> yeah. it was a grand moment. in american history to have

president clinton and president bush and president obama all in the same house of god acknowledging the extraordinary contribution that this man has made to our great country. he is the embodiment of patriotism. as you point out he didn't come to george bush's inauguration and the sad thing about donald trump we are seeing it in this moment but in ways that are much more consequential that somehow he thinks public service is about him. i think public service is about the people you're trying to serve. and his -- second line of the response was he didn't come to my inauguration? is an inauguration a coronation? or is it a statement about one's commitment to doing the work that the people have honored by electing you to do? so sadly we are seeing it in

this moment and much more consequential for the coronavirus whereas wearing a mask and doing the things that are necessary, admitting that the problem is a deadly and as tragic as it is, why can't he do those things? because he calculated it is not good politics for him. that's a sad situation and it's consequential for the american people. >> i want to play the president's comments about his support for the african-american community. >> i did more for the black community than anybody with the possible exception of abraham lincoln whether you like it or not. people say that's -- you you believe you did more than lyndon johnson? >> yeah. >> how? how possibly did you -- >> reformed -- i got prison reform. >> lyndon johnson -- >> i've done things -- well,

how's it worked out? >> you think the civil rights act was a mistake? >> frankly it took a long time but for african-americans -- >> you think that was a mistake? >> under my administration, african-americans were doing better than they had ever done in the history of this country so i did a lot. job numbers, all the money, they had money, great -- percentage was up. their housing ownership. they did better than they have ever done. >> he -- you can speak to this as a leader of the african-american community in your community, he is questioning the civil rights act. what do you make of that? >> says the president who in his emergence as a political figure rode in on a terrible conspiracy around birtherism, denying the legitimacy of barack obama and he was the most prominent and

effective spokesperson for this conspiracy, a way of saying that you don't belong. you are not one of us. that's a familiar and painful tone that we have heard over and again and african-american community and as he came down that escalator that we shall never forget. he came down, attacking communities of color. this is par for the course. for trump. i think even as he refuses to say something nice about congressman lewis, part of that is his narcissism. sadly i think part of it may be a kind of calculation that he is playing to the most extreme xenophobic parts of his base that says how dare a man of color be who john lewis is. but i'm not particularly worried about what donald trump has to say about john lewis. john lewis has been vindicated by history. he is a hero of bloody sunday. and when the history of the 20th century is written again and again he will stand as president

obama said as one of the founding fathers of the new emerging america. the good news is that there is a coalition of conscience of people who get it and they're pouring out into american streets and once again heeding this call, the call he made on the day of his funeral that a new generation to rise up, reclaim the american promise of democracy and equality that embraces all. that's the good news. the united states of america is bigger and stronger than donald trump and once he's unelected we'll continue to move forward. >> reverend, thank you so much for being with us. >> good to be with you. a new study is showing that fewer patients are being diagnosed with cancer during the pandemic. hear why. plus, i'll speak with a teacher retiring early citing health risks and will tell us who she thinks is to blame. new york city's health

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a new study reports that fewer people are diagnosed with cancer in the pandemic and that is not good news. i want to bring in cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. elizabeth, explain what's happening here. >> if you remember back in lockdown in march and april people weren't going to the doctor so, for example, a woman might find a lump in the breast but was hesitant or not able to go to the doctor to get it checked out. this study looked across the nation and more than 278,000

patients and found a 46% decline prepandemic versus march and april in the number of diagnosis made and then found an especially steep decline in breast cancer and so for many people really frankly a month's delay in cancer might not be such a problem. you know? month's delay isn't good but not affect the outcome but a month or two or sometimes longer of a delay that is a problem and hopefully sort of as things start to open up again and have people are going in to get these kinds of tests now. >> and there is another study, elizabeth, and it has some statistics. they're frightening. we don't want to say that but they are with icu accessibility. tell us about the findings. >> right. this is frightening not just for people with covid-19 for any of us who at any timened up in the icu for whatever reason.

covid affected the entire health system, not just people with covid so let's take a look at these numbers. what this study found is in the united states 37% of communities have no access to icu beds and when they break it down low income urban communities, 31% no access and rural low income communities 55% had no access. there have been hospital access issues in rural low income communities for quite a while now and the covid pandemic has made it even worse and that's what we are talking about. we were talking previously in the show about a lack of leadership. when you have a lack of leadership this is what happens. you don't have planning and so you have the hospitals or these icus in particular becoming overrun. >> and we learned a short time ago that new york's health commissioner resigned. what happened there? >> right. so that's a health commissioner for quite sometime now and unclear what happened but there

seems to be some unhappiness between here and new york city mayor deblasio. he said that it was a time for a change and thanked her for the service and potentially some conflicts there including decisions about how to do contact tracing and testing. should the health department do it? should it be outsourced to another group and the mayor said it was time for a change. >> all right. elizabeth, thank you so much. always good to see you. a new medical study identifies two things needed for schools to reopen safely. they're pretty simple and the u.s. has neither. i'll speak live with a teacher who's retiring early because of the risk. we are just getting the first images of a massive explosion in a major city. stand by for that. try wayfair. ! ♪ ♪

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of a plane and then refusing to pack our parachutes or teach us to use them correctly. saying jump anyway. no one would do that, no one should do that. that's where trust in governments come in. have they packed the parachutes they want us to take the jump with the children? are they saying that schools structure the reopening based on the number of infections in the communities? move ahead if things are going well? wave off if they're not? are they testing and tracing? no. they're not. americans are waiting days, sometimes weeks, for their results which by that point make them irrelevant in containing the spread. more studies show that older children can transmit the virus just as easily as adults. another shows that children younger than 5 had a significant amount of viruses in their nose compared to older children but

since some americans don't believe studies or science let's just look at the real life examples that are showing the risks and consequences. in indiana, the family of a student awaiting a test result sent him to class anyway and later that day his test result came back positive. and then in georgia the state's largest school district reported 260 employees have either tested positive or have been exposed. keep in mind students there haven't returned yet. also in georgia, a cdc study shows the virus spread wildly through an overnight camp. despite this, a reminder that this was the cdc after president trump pushed back on their guidelines for schools. >> they're all put out with the intent to help facilitate as was mentioned earlier, the reopening of schools for face to face learning. they're not really put out to be

a rational to keep schools closed but again we are prepared to work with each jurisdiction as they try to adopt the guidelines. >> but listen to the president's task force doctors as they outline the risk of reopening schools. >> if you have high case load and active community spread just like we're asking people not to go to bars, not to have household parties, not to create large spreading events, distance learn at the moment to get the epidemic under control. >> the primary consideration should always be the safety, the health and the welfare of the children. >> on top of all of this you have teachers, administrators, staff members wrestling with this potential life and death decision of going back to school and now some jobs are threatened. in arizona a superintendent said the state is threatening to cut

funding if he doesn't reopen the schools and the president said he canceled a florida convention because it's too dangerous and the white house is requiring expanded tests even though the president publicly calls them overrated. and his own son's school it isn't going back to in-person learning and a hybrid version until october. if the government won't trust in science, how do you trust the government? how the hell do you trust them with your kids? millions of parents across the country are making clear they're not because they don't trust the pilot. my next guest had to make that potentially life and death decision and she is deciding to stay home. mary is with us now, a special -- was a special education teacher in nebraska for 20 years and is now retiring early. mary, thank you so much for joining us. i'm sorry that you have had to retire early. you are an example of someone who has so much expertise and

institutional knowledge and experience to give to kids. tell us what made you come to this decision. >> hi. well, first, thanks for providing a space for teacher voices. we don't often get a seat at the table and it is much appreciated. what led to my decision, i have taught for 28 years, 22 in my current district for a district i love and i could not foresee a circumstance under which i would feel safe in the building at my age. i'll turn 63 fall and looking through cdc guidelines, the local official public guidelines and things that didn't match up, for example, they recommend six feet social distancing and then three feet in the schools and i don't understand because i don't think the virus really makes a distinction between three feet and six feet. it is what it is. i didn't see how they could meet that guideline. i was concerned about aerosols, you know, we are hearing evidence of aerosols linger in

classrooms and they recommend good ventilation. open a window. in my school many of the rooms don't have windows. my room doesn't. i teach in an older building and so our ventilation system, it is an older system. i know we had a bond issue a couple years ago to upgrade that did not pass and our custodians do the best they can to keep us safe but schools have to work with the resources they have. masks, the school district is man dating masks. i'm in favor. shout out to the administration. they have worked tirelessly over this summer to keep everyone safe but they've been given a really difficult task but i'm thrilled that they are saying that masks mandated but however i taught for a long time and they tend to be the rebellious stage of life and, you know, for example, our dress code is not hoodies because we don't want kids to have the ear buds in but listening to us and the pushback we get from adolescents on that

rule and i can see what will happen with masks. below the chin, below the nose and i think part of the blame is because we have such conflicting messages coming every level, from the national level to the state level about it's a hoax, it is just like the flu or it is not. i think that the discourse in the society to trickle down into the classrooms and for all of those reasons i didn't see how the building was going to be able to be kept safe for someone in my demographic but it does affect others, too. i'm not the only one worried about this. >> i think that this is such -- unfortunately, we will have to leave it there, mary. i think there's so many people in your position, hearing from so many teachers saying they need to step away now and maybe they didn't want to for a few more years yet. that is a loss and you are an example of that and we

appreciate you describing the process to us. it is very important that we understand when's going on. mary, thank you so much. >> thank you. the st. louis cardinals are saying that there is no proof some players went to a casino as an outbreak is hitting the team. a prosperity gospel preacher is holding a large event with thousands of people. and we are just getting the first images of a massive explosion in buy route as the lebanese president ordered military patrols. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. ♪

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a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! in the battle to keep the coronavirus at bay, the denver broncos have a misting booth to spray disinfeck about thes on players. there's this tweet tyke for work but first we sanitize. a player was sick with covid-19 in the spring and another tested positive in the offseason. check in with the cnn reporters to see how other parts of the country are handling the pandemic. >> reporter: in milton, georgia, the cardinals are the latest major league baseball team with an outbreak among the team. seven players and six staff members have tested positive for

covid-19 over the past week. as a result the team's four-game series in detroit scheduled to start today has been postponed. the cardinals have been in quarantine in milwaukee since thursday. they're going to stay there and the personnel continues to be tested daily. and for now, the plan is for the team to resume play on friday against the cubs in st. louis. >> reporter: i'm ed lavandera. the ft. worth convention center is hosting the first event since end of june. the southwest believers convention expecting nearly 3,000 people this week. it's hosted by the televangelist kenneth copeland and we asked for comment but convention officials said they're urging them to practice social distancing, to wear masks. we have looked on the southwest believers convention facebook page. we see some people socially distancing and very few people wearing masks.

>> reporter: i'm dianne gallagher in atlanta. the georgia world convention center is a covid-19 overflow hospital. it began accepting patients on monday. tease are not the sickest covid-19 patients but this is meant to alleviate the pressure on hospitals that in some cases are being pushed to the brink. the state of georgia seeing an 85% icu bed capacity right now. right at this moment, they have 60 beds inside the facility but it can be expanded to 120 if that's needed. >> reporter: i'm jack line howard in atlanta. jails are a major source of coronavirus spread not only within their facilities but surrounding communities, as well. a study published in "health affairs" suggests more than 4,000 covid-19 cases can be connected to the outbrack in chicago's cook county jail back in march. researchers say that outbreak may be linked with 15.7% of all

covid-19 cases in this state. and researchers say cook county jail was the largest known source of covid spread before being surpassed by an ohio state prison in april. >> thank you, everyone, for the reports. following breaking news out of beirut, the city is rorked by a major explosion. the hospitals told to prepare for casualties. the city's governor saying that at least ten firefighters are missing at this point. the white house confirming moments ago to monitor the situation there and we have cnn's ben wedeman who's on the phone in beirut. this video that we are seeing from different vantage points of this explosion is -- it is stunning, ben. could you feel this explosion when it happened? >> reporter: yes. i was in the cnn bureau just about a kilometer away from the port where 6:00 p.m. local time

the building shook. i thought it was an earth quake. it was absolutely massive but just moments later the windows in our bureau were blown out. most of them. our office is now in shambles and really the case for many, many parts of this city. we understand that one hospital, hotel has received at least 400 injuries and another is reporting more than 60, that's two of many hospitals in this city. i can still hear lots of sirens outside the window, much of the city is dark. seems that the electricity is down in many areas. it is not clear what happened. prior to the blast the reporter for the los angeles times tweeted a picture of a fire in the port area. that clearly something went off

and no one is clear at this point what. the national news agency, the official news agency is reporting that it was a warehouse full of fireworks but the head of the general security said that basically he said it would be naive at this point to assume that a blast of this size and magnitude and destructive power was caused by simply fireworks. so there's no indication at this time what has caused the explosion but what is clear is it's sent this city into a situation of chaos. one person i spoke to talked about people being treated in the street by other individuals. providing cpr to some and on the sidewalk. not clear at this point what caused this explosion but the

destruction is absolutely cataclysmic. >> that is exactly the word. all right, ben. we know this is a developing situation and that you are working on the story there. ben wedeman in beirut, thank you. a family is calling out the president and the texas governor in an emotional obituary for a father. how did san francisco go from an early covid success story to a hotspot? a city bus driver will join me live to explain why. the president apparently reverses himself on mail-in voting but only in one state. hey there people eligible for medicare.

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early on in the pandemic, san francisco stood out. london brooed was one of the first mayors in the country to warn about the disruptions that lay ahead. san francisco went into lockdown early on. people seemed to be mostly wearing masks and avoiding large gatherings. and it worked at first. now san francisco is facing a dangerous surge in cases and hospitalizations. roughly 600 cases, many in the hospital. many are contributing it to complacency about the virus. bus operator for san francisco's muni transit system. he's on the front lines in the city every day. tell us, felix, what you're seeing every day that is different than it was, say, two

months ago. >> well, good afternoon. how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. it's good to see you. thank you. >> it's a world of difference. i actually live downtown. the first shutdown, it was sker out there. you wouldn't see anybody. it got really scary on the streets, the loneliness. as the weeks have been coming by, you see a little more people, more people b a month ago, you started seeing traffic. and then people pretty much finally in complacency. they weren't scared anymore of what was going on. >> so, they sort of aren't afraid anymore. they don't maybe have a healthy fear or at least a healthy enough fear. were most of your passengers wearing masks and keeping their distance once they started to return? >> it's those few cases that you have where there's always

troublemakers in the bus riding with us, but then you have those few cases that may be wearing a mask but have them up to their neck, maybe not have put them on because they forgot. and you tell them and you have to repeat it three times. some people go all the way in the back thinking you're not going to check on them or if you tell them once that's it. and then you just have some people who get intoxicated on the bus and other people who you really have to watch out for because some of those may commit assaults or spit on you. >> and to that point, do you worry about your own safety? >> yeah. this happened to one of the cases, to my cousin. he got spit on when they were telling someone wear a mask. the other day someone got hit with a small souvenir bat and got called out racial slurs. some bus drivers are trying to

take it more relaxed, that they don't want to get involved in actually telling them. yeah. it's -- you have to be careful out there while you're driving. policing, wearing the masks at the same time. using good judgment and how to interact with each customer. >> well, felix, i'll tell you, you know, it's tough driving in san francisco and that should be the most of your concern as a bus driver. you shouldn't be dealing with this. but we appreciate you talking to us about what you're experiencing day-to-day. >> thank you very much for hearing us out. >> felix castillo, san francisco muni bus driver for us there. president trump claiming that the pandemic is under control even though it's not. i'm going to speak live with jonathan swan, who interviewed the president on this claim as well as a number of others. stand by for that. - sir. - we need a doctor. [running footsteps and siren]

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it's the top of the hour now. i'm brianna keilar. a reality check. we see some states level off as far as coronavirus cases, we're also seeing the lag that we were warned about, that when cases rise, we see death rates rise weeks late