other. >> i still honestly, arwa, i ka cannot get over the images. hard to wrap your mind how that did happen in an instant. thank you, so much, for your great reporting as always. thank you all so much for jonning us this afternoon. cnn's coverage continues now with john king. thank you, kate. hello, everybody. i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. trouble ahead, the words of the nas's top infectious disease expert says he sees warning soons in the data and if it means the uptick to mushroom into surges if the country doesn't adjust the behaevior right now. 1.2 million more americans filing fur first-time unemployment benefits. the president heading to ohio today and predicting the virus will just disappear and in his

view already fading. much of the data this hour is positive. the u.s. seven-day average of cases the lowest since mid-july. just under 56,000 new infections per day. that is important progress. yes. but progress we need to note from a summer surge point that simply didn't have to happen. the baseline was down to 20,000 new cases per day back not too long. dr. fauci says that was too high. not a good baseline are his exact words. the number of daily tests fell again on wednesday to 665,000. that's the lowest level since july 8th. expets say millions of tests per day is required to map and then control this pandemic. even as the new cases are falling new deaths sadly are not. 1,388 covid-19 deaths on wednesday. the united states averaging 1,000-plus deaths a day. joe biden says he would roll back some reopenings if he was

in charge today and in a new interview the former vice president talks in detail about the challenges of reopening schools. the president sees things more black and white saying the economy should stay open and that schools must reopen. listen to dr. fauci and you hear something you don't hear often from the president. talk of a middle ground. >> some people tend to think you need to shut down completely or some people then think let it rip. just do anything you want. no. you can proceed to open up the country and get the economy back even when you have situations that we have now. so we have to get away from that all or none phenomenon. we can carefully proceed. >> let's take a look through the numbers. many at this moment are encouraging. not a lot of red. a little bit of orange. that is great. three states trending up. the red is hawaii, illinois and

massachusetts trending up. 24 holding steady. 23 states heading down including florida and california, arizona. as of this day, this is a much better map than we have seen in sometime. remember this. remember this? this is one month ago. one month ago look at all that orange and all that red. 32 states trending up a month ago and come back to this. this is a much improving map. three states trending up. 24 steady. sadly and we have learned this, even as the case picture improves, deaths are lagging and 15 states where deaths are higher this week than last week. this is an improvement but still 15 states the deaths are still trending up. 17 steady. 18 states where the deaths are trending down. where are cases going down? florida and arizona have been part of the summer surge. florida trending down. the challenge is keep it there

and push that lower. arizona see the seven-day moving average down. new mexico, smaller cases and you have the summer surge and see that trending down the way to keep it. the question is does it come back? where do you see cases going up? illinois is one of them and the numbers are sizable. not a giant spike but the seven-day moving average trending up and up and the governor trying to move on that. hawaii, a smaller state, much lower case count and again you see it pretty low in july, trending up there. that's what you do not want happening. as the state by state data improves, is there something troublesome around the corner? positivity in the case? the tests coming back positive, nevada's seven-day average was moving down. 32%. yesterday. that is evidence of major community spread and among the hotspots. dr. birx looks at these areas

here. these are the places she identifies right now as of major concern to the white house task force because positivity rates are going up and listening to dfs dr. fauci is more. >> dr. birx said now is the time to accelerate the preventive measures, masks, social distancing, avoiding crowds, outdoors greater than indoors. washing hands. those kind of simple things can actually prevent that uptick from becoming a surge. so she was warning the states and the cities to be careful because this is a predictor of trouble ahead. here with me now to share expertise is cnn medical analyst, dr. seema yasmine. i need you to help people

understand. state by state map, that is the most optimistic map i have been able to show in quite sometime and yet you hear dr. fauci and dr. birx say potential trouble ahead. explain that. >> potential trouble ahead, john, because we are kind of playing whack-a-mole in that some states with the surges in the spring and then they see a decline and then we see more hotspots. states dealing with infections, hospitalizations and deaths so etch as you say rightly florida and arizona starting to plateau, seeing a decline two things are happening. one is in most states they're still not doing enough testing on a daily basis. in arizona they're only doing about 16%, 16% of the daily testing they should be doing. really low. the test positivity rate is really high. i'm worried and what i think dr.

fauci is alluding to with bad predictions for the future is even as some states get a handle on things possibly we are seeing spikes in montana, missouri and oklahoma so these are mid western states that historically had lower levels of covid-19 inferkss and then starting to see the troubling metrics that could spell out a bad news for the future. >> the states are less populated and starting to spike there, every case counts. but the numbers would move less dramatically in the smaller states. the issue is and dr. fauci tried to explain this, we were down to 20,000 cases a day and everybody thought the united states is doing a better job. and then the summer surge. dr. fauci wins shes at 20,000, everybody would have taken a breath and shoved that down more. >> we saw in arizona they went

up and started to really clamp down and do things right and the cases came right down. we can do that throughout those areas that are surging. so we will be able to get that baseline down to a level of hundreds of cases and maybe 1,000 or 2,000 rather than 20,000. >> how long would that take? if, if we are perfect or near perfect and meaning 50 states, 13,000 school districts, how long would it take to get to where dr. fauci wishes we were before the reopening happened? 1,000? 2,000? right now we're closer to 50,000. >> amidst the troubling numbers i think here is where we can find some hope and optimism because the message is this. if we start to take this seriously tomorrow, if we were to start saying, instead of doing 600,000 or 700,000 tests a day in america we really aim for

at least 2 million if not 4 million tests a day, get them back in a few days, follow up with contact tracing and isolating then we can start to see those lower levels of daily infections in about six weeks. so that's the optimism here that if we were to take it seriously we have the public health tools and strategies to do that. sadly we are flailing because we are not taking these very basic measures and that's like dr. fauci saying we reopened too early sadly. we got down to 20,000 cases a day, really high, compared to italy, germany. they were only reopening when that baseline was very, very low. but i think the message needs to be that we are fatigued, we are so fed up out of our brains of this pandemic but if the government was to really get its act together tomorrow and have a

cohesive national strategy we could start to get back to normal as other nations have within the next month or two. >> then let me close with this. there are seeds of potential optimism. let me show you a map. 20 state where is the positivity rate is up this week compared to last week and yet at the very same time testing is down. the number of tests conducted is dropping in those states even as the positivity rate goes up. a problem, right? a wrong direction? >> a huge problem and actually when you look at these graphs of what the test positivity rate is in different states and then on the same graph you can see how much testing is that state actually doing you start to see a correlation, john. vermont, maine, connecticut where they have a really low infection rate, in fact, test positivity rates of 1%, they're doing like 200% or 300% of the testing that they should be doing so they're knocking it out of the park and then you directly see, okay, these states are doing tons of testing.

their infection rates are way down. that's how important covid-19 testing is. testing really helps you get a handle on a pandemic, figure out who's a case and who isn't. who needs contact tracing and really show that that's the strategy we all need to be taking. >> if we're going to get out of the whack-a-mole we need all the pieces at the same time. yet to happen. we'll see if we get to that point. appreciate you insights. for more, tonight coronavirus facts and fears live at 8:00 eastern right here on cnn. the president and democratic rival, well, very different takes on how much time and what to do to handle this pandemic. yea, that look of pure terror... ...no, no, the smile... ...and that second right before the first tear comes... ...what?! pizza on a bagel-we can all agree with that. do you want a hug?

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here's the new york attorney general just moments ago. >> just a few minutes ago my office filed a lawsuit against the national rifle association to dissolve the organization in its entirety. for years of self dealing and illegal conduct that violate new york's charities law and undermine its own mission. >> let's get to the crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz. it would be a big deal and also an election year. is there merit to this suit? does the attorney general think she can prove criminal conduct to dissolve this organization? >> reporter: yeah. that's exactly the question i posed to her because she is going to be criticized for doing it in august just months from the election. of course, the nra a very pro-republican group. i asked her specifically if she was concerned about the president's reaction to this which i'm sure we'll get at some point and she said, this is all

based on the facts and what their investigation has found. they spent months subpoenaing information from various organizations. they say they were people who worked at the nra, also subpoenaed information from a marketing company that once did work for the nra so they say they have a lot of information which essentially shows that its leader, wayne lapierre, was using the organization as basically a slush fund to fund a lavish lifestyle. it was money that they used that was supposed to go to the organization that they used for personal gain, flights, meals, things we always hear in some of these organizations. they say they have the receipts, they have the information. the other thing that she says that basically the organization took millions of dollars away from its charitable mission and, of course, filing this lawsuit

in new york, john, because the nra, the organization, is registered as a charity here in new york state and so that's why the attorney general has jurisdiction over the organization. she was also asked if she would be referring this for criminal charges alleging misconduct, some illegal and potentially criminal and she would not discuss that and did say that they were referring some of the information that they received to the irs because there are allegations that they lied on their tax returns and tax forms and she filed the lawsuit today. the nra is expected to respond to the lawsuit so we're waiting to hear from them on that, john. >> important issues and we can't discount the timing, as well. we'll watch this as it plays out. the president attended a first coronavirus task force meeting since april. the other day.

he tweeted pictures so that you knew he was there in the thick of it. the first in more than three months. elections are about choices. that's the old saying goes. how much attention does joe biden give the pandemic? >> four times a week, an hour a day. i just did one through an 87-page memo with my team. including docs, former heads of the cdc, part of an entire team that i have that we put together and go through it at least four times a week. >> bring in the chief political correspondent dana bash. elections are about choices and voters decide what matters most to them but in the middle of a pandemic it is striking to hear that joe biden the challenger out of government with no authority spends a whole lot more time on this than the president of the united states.

>> it really is striking to hear that. there's so many reasons. lets's just start with a basic. joe biden is a creature of government. as vice president for two taeer he dealt with nothing as bad as this but understands the importance of getting briefed up and understanding what he doesn't understand. never mind having to make policy decisions when he was in the senate for all those decades. donald trump comes at this from such a different point of view on so many levels. and -- but the fact that, i think this is what you're getting at, joe biden who isn't in charge and doesn't have the responsibility that donald trump does seems to be more engaged than donald trump is very telling. we shall also say that mark meadows chief of staff insists yesterday that even though he

doesn't go to task force briefings he is on top of it. you know? he maybe has a different style but in knowing the basics like the charts that he puts forward in interviews and the basic information whether he chooses to ignore the bad things or whether he just doesn't listen to it, we don't know the answer to that. >> so again, let's dig deeper into it. the big issue of many parents right now, we know a little bit about this, can my kid go back to school? will it be in class? online? listen to the two of them here skszing a central issue for parents in america today. >> parents want the schools open. we want them open, safely. practice very strong hygiene and other things i enumerated many times. >> first get the cases down in the communities through social distancing, masking, tracing,

ppe. give school districts guidance without interference to safety protocols including ventilation, changes in classrooms and give the district it is resources to implement the guidance. >> again, they sound a lot different. the vice president offered more details. the president saying we'll practice hygiene, keep them open. >> this is a president who understands that schools have such a direct correlation to society and the economy opening. they all are connected as we have talked about so many times and the president is desperate to do that. never mind not really appearing to learn the lesson of what dr. fauci has been talking about over 24 hours which is if you push too soon and too hard it is going to make it worse. and again, just on the raw politics of this, joe biden doesn't have the responsibly right now but he does sound like

somebody with more of a plan. he does sound like somebody who can have the empathy for parents and for school districts who want to do quhat president is asking them to do. they just don't have the capability of doing it and also keep kids safe and teachers safe and follow the guidelines of the president's own cdc. >> i want to shift gears here. you have the chief political correspondent and the chief of the stars among stars part of on the trail premiering tonight, a documentary on hbo max tonight about many of the remarkable women that cnn has out covering this campaign. let's play a snippet. >> there is nothing like the rush of covering presidential campaign. >> we are cnn's eyes and ears on the groukd. >> we need to stand by. be ready to go. >> the embeds on a campaign bus, at a rally.

>> your life is not your own. >> we are in the thick of it right now. >> we get a front row seat to history. >> i am your president of law and order. >> we thought 2016 was crazy. >> stressful, isn't it? don't really breathe until the day is over. >> you feel like you have to say something because if you don't say it who is? >> we have an economic crisis. public health crisis. social crisis. this moment is unlike any other. the question of what kind of leader do i want has never been more real than right now. >> why was this project so important? let me start before you answer by saying this is a great place to work with the 'em powerment of people and reporting an ento see all those remarkable women and you are the chief of the chiefs out there covering the campaign trail. >> it is very cool. i want to give a shout out to katie hinman.

this is her brain child to highlight and take people behind the scenes and on the trail. there's so many reasons why this is a remarkable film but i'll start with one. john, when you started covering campaigns in 1988, the reporting -- >> child prodigy. >> the reporting did not look like it looks now. >> it didn't. >> it was a lot more men, mostly men. some women but mostly men. the boys on the bus from before that. and it is different now. women have a long way to go but the fact that there is representation not just in terms of gender but in terms of diversity has matched the very slowly changing but yet changing diversity of the candidates that we cover and i think that this documentary really shows that in addition to how exhilarating and grueling and exhausting and

fantastic it is to have that front row seat to history. >> it is a great project and we hope people can watch to get the perspective of dana and see some of the people you don't see on television, a lot busting the you know whats every day and do an amazing job. >> yes, they are. >> watch it on the trail inside the 2020 primary start streaming on hbo max today. up next, a million plus new applications for unemployment been fits and no real soons of progress as congress considers new help for struggling american workers. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. ♪

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that will continue to be endless unless the democrats let us provide more relief to the country. >> cnn congressional correspondent and how long is the tunnel correspondent phil mattingly. it is sometimes funny to watch how they talk but given the issues of the home, 1.2 million americans filing for claims, small businesses worrying do i get more? it is not a laughing matter we some comedy in the politics sometimes. >> reporter: yeah, look. again, some things to fiend funny because we have been covering them for a few weeks and no clear resolution in sight and lawmakers make jokes but the reality is the stakes are enormous and one of the things that appears to be missing in negotiations is recognition for something to get done now. people have not had access to the benefits for several weeks. obviously the eviction moratorium lapsed, as well. and i think one of the things

that i have been somewhat surprised by as the senate prepares to go home in a couple of hours, rank and file lawmakers are going home and part of the reason why and the speaker talked about this and republicans as well, there's a fundamental difference of perspective of what's necessary right now. democrats want to go big, bigger than earlier in the year and republicans to go targeted. the president talked about negotiations breaking down and will operate unilaterally. >> i don't think they know what they're talking about. the one thing that president can do is to extend the moratorium and that would be a good thing if there's money to go with it and that's what we keep telling them. >> reporter: the unilateral action is mostly a leverage view to force democrats to come to the table but i think the speaker has a point there r

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this was inevitable. you knew this, the governor and school districts know this. you open schools, you will have cases. from the district have you learned about how it happened that helps you in other districts or it is what it is? >> i think it is what it is. this virus is not discriminating on areas of the state or whether you're in the rural area or suburban area and superintendents planning all summer long. we have been would recollectirk state health doctor giving guidance to the districts, surveyed parents to see which mode of learning they most want to use, whether that's vrt july or hybrid or in person and so that parents have a choice about whether to bring the children in person or to keep them at home. >> if you say, just has the position this is unsafe you will jump on this and say i told you

so. i want you to listen to the governor here to offer an interesting perspective. >> those who want to attack everyone, look at that as a negative, i actually look at it as a positive. the system is working where we have positive cases, contact traced those back and trying to protect those kids. >> this is a uniquely personal to every parent. some say open the schools. some say how dare you open the schools? you are going through this debate. one of the things in this case is this school district is trance parent about this and they're not required to be so transparent. why do you think that's a plus? >> i think it's a plus because the more you can communicate with parents you can asuasuage their fears. i think that the more we can let the public know what is going on the better we can learn from best practices around how this

is canceled and schools are opening this week, a third this week and another third of them opening next week and so everybody is trying to make sure that they are contingency planning. what happens with somebody comi coming down? who gets notified? they can be prepared for that. >> you not only have the eyes of people in mississippi on you, you will have the eyes of the country on you. as a parent so you have those 100 students put in quarantine now, a safety measure. right? those students at home, of the 100 are they all students or students and faculty and staff at the school? of the students do they get remote learning while in quarantine? >> absolutely. that's a reason to work with the legislature to pass two pieces

of legislation to give the state the sufficient funds to put a device in every child's hand. even when children are at home, the content of what they need to be learning is loaded on the devices. so thanks to the legislature, every child in the state of mississippi will have a device that is either wi-fi or cellular enabled and they have the learning management systems they need to load that content on so that children can download that content on to the laptops so we have been trying to plan for just about everything we can plan for. >> superintendent wright, appreciate your time and insight. everybody has their political perspective. this is a critical issue and my job is to air it out. i appreciate your time and transparency and wish you the best of luck. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. i'm grateful for you. breaking news and cnn's jeremy diamond, a governor

testing positive for coronavirus. jeremy? >> reporter: john, this is the second time in the last two weeks that we have seen the rigorous testing protocols at the white house that president trump been fits from keeping him from being in close contact with someone who has tested positive for coronavirus. this morning it is the ohio governor mike dewine scheduled to greet the president on the tarmac in ohio. the president is heading there today and dewine testing positive as part of those white house testing protocols. the governor's office saying as of now the governor is asymptomatic but obviously those testing protocols catching that positive coronavirus diagnosis. last week, of course, it was the texas congressman gohmert scheduled to be on the plane with the president as well as the republican congressional candidate in texas to greet the president on the tarmac. both testing positive again once again as part of those testing

protocols and notable john because the president benefits from the most robust testing protocols anywhere in the country and heard him time and again suggest more testing and more simply creating the cases that don't otherwise exist. and we should note, of course, that most americans who are returning to work in the way that the president would like to see the country do, they do not benefit from this kind of testing. john? >> they do not and the governor dewine politely because he is a good republican has been among those pushing the white house for more ppe, testing and the like. we wish the governor the best obviously here. jeremy diamond, appreciate the breaking news there. up next, ohio is a big battleground state. team trump wants to move up the date of the first debate. it's the faster way to clean as you go just spray, wipe and rinse it cleans grease five times faster

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a full month, guys, after early voting agains. we know that joe biden will stay right down in the basement as long as he can. >> remember that his advisers are saying don't even go to the debate. just skip the debate. think about that. like why are you going to go up against donald j. trump? >> joining us now to discuss is jeff zeleny and erin hain. the point there at the end, are biden advisers, any serious effort to get him to skip debates? >> the biden campaign is only of the two cam pans that have agreed to the three debates that have been set forward and have happened every four years by the commission on presidential debates. that's not true. the biden campaign agreed to the rules but the trump campaign is showing a couple things, a, they are acknowledging that elections have changed. that early voting is going to be

a part of this process. we hear the president railing against that a lot and also a sign that they know that they're not in a strong position hee so this is something very interesting to watch. i think it is a certainly legitimate question why are the debates so late in the process when people certainly will have voted but we do not know if things will change between the end of september going forward but inaccurate to say that the biden campaign doesn't agree to the debates but they have so this is something that trump campaign is trying to use to shake up the race. they have tried again and again to slow joe biden to try to define joe biden. they have struggled to do so and think on the debate stage may be a way to do that, john. >> process argument. we'll see if it works. erin, today, with the coronavirus cam pane where the candidates aren't in public as much doing rallies, today we have a same day back and forth between the candidates. joe biden, this part is on tape.

he gave an interview with national association of black journalests and latino journalists at which he said something and the president responds. let's listen. it is not ready yet. let's move on to something else. in that same interview with national association of black journalists he is days away of picking vice presidential candidate and some people in the biden campaign, chris dodd, no ento ha -- known to complain of joe biden's attack on kamala harris. >> i don't hold grudges. i think it was a debate, as simple as that and she is very much in contention. >> one part of that conversation is there any worry this is so drawn out to cause bad blood in the democratic party. >> yes, john. i think that the people i talk to especially a lot of the women who are in politics who are observers of this process have

been disturbed and offended by the tone that the veep stakes conversation has taken in this home stretch as the vice president gets closer to making a decision. we are hearing a lot of kind of racist, frankly, you know, comments about the women who are in contention to possibly be on this ticket and who could make history here headed into november if joe biden and that ticket is elected. conversations around ambition or even pitting some of the black women conversations in this conversation against each other and what women voters and organizers and strategists i hear from hearing is that they're wanting to hear from joe biden himself in denouncing this kind of rhetoric, this tone that seems to be reemerging. we had conversations around electability in the 2016

election. some of the personality criticismed that were lobbed at those women in the year celebrating, preparing to celebrate the centennial of suffrage we don't focus on the qualified women one of whom is going to be joe biden's running mate, possibly as soon as next week. >> by early next week we expect it. now let me get back to the back and forth here. this is the vice president speaking, the interview taped i believe last week. played at this conference. the president responds. >> by the way, what you all know but most people don't know unlike the african-american community with notable exceptions the latino community is incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things. you go to florida and find a different attitude about immigration in certain places than you do in arizona. so it's a very different,

diverse community. >> i watched the clip and joe biden this morning totally disparaged and insulted the black community, what he said is incredible. i don't know what's going on with him but it was a very insulting statement he made. >> errin, is it very insulting? did joe biden insult the black community? trying to make the point and maybe he didn't that -- i believe the point is most african-americans support democrats and going to florida, for example, you have the cuban american population or puerto rican population in florida with a different view than those in arizona and is it disparaging what the former vice president said? >> i think that that is right, john, that was maybe inartful contrast that the vice president was trying to make and then you

saw president donald trump seizing on that saying that he is attempting to make enroads with the black community which is not really -- did not really support him in 2016 and not execed to support him by bigger numbers in 2020 so that kind of inartful remark did present an opening for president trump that did provide kind of a rare realtime exchange and frankly news being made out of the convention which started yesterday and is continuing through the week. >> jeff, to that point, errin makes a point that if you look at the polling, we have seen in the protests across the country there does not seem to be opening for the president there and yet he sees an opportunity and much as he tried to suppress the african-american vote in the 2016 campaign. what's different in this campaign is at least a handful

of states kanye west is on the ballot and questions about that, whether that's a serious campaign and potentially viewed as to give people an alternative who might not want to vote for joe biden. >> there is no question. there are republican operatives with allies who are close to the president and the republican party who have been helping kanye west get on the ballot, wisconsin a prime example. ohio an example, colorado, as well. this is something that the trump cam pan said it has nothing to do with it but looking beneath the layer here, there are republican operatives helping west running as an independent in some states. west is not the president of the united states. but his name on a ballot could take off younger african-american voters and worries of wisconsin officials i spoke to yesterday believing that the trump campaign is trying to peel off younger black voters, if you will. that is the challenge of biden

campaign exciting and winning over and reaching out to some younger african-american voters so they believe that kanye west, this is a stunt. he could be playing the role of a spoiler but the reality is the race is likely not to be won or lost on this but it is something that people are keeping an eye on. roger stone, of course, has praised kanye west. several indications that he has the finger prints on this. roger stone has many elections under the belt where he's behind the scenes undergrounds doing this things. >> errin, quickly, there is a question, joe biden with a new ad today aimed at african-american voters. a question on voting intensity. >> yeah. and i think that, you know, this is all part of a larger conversation about voter

enthusiasm that needs to drive the kind of turnout to beat an incumbent president generally but this president in particular. there's excitement of the democratic voters i talked to heading into 2020 and i think concerns over voter suppression in the middle of a pandemic are why you have democratic surrogates i hear from saying that they're looking to front the score in 2020. >> brianna keilar picks up the coverage right now. have a good day. i'm brianna keilar and welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. wi begin with breaking news. the governor of ohio testing positive hours before he was to meet president trump. i want to