may they rest in peace and may their memories being a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next, breaking news, a key model projecting 300,000 american deaths this year, almost double where we are tonight as the president blames the nation's governors. plus the cdc says do not wear masks with valves or vents, major league baseball banning cloth masks. so, what masks should we be using? i'll ask my guest. new york attorney general suing to dissolve the nra saying it's been used a personal piggy bank. the attorney general is "outfront "outfront." let go "outfront." i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight a grim new projection. 300,000 american deaths by december.

that is according to the influential new model used often by the white house. they do say if everyone wore masks, the same model would project 70,000 of those lives could be saved. it comes as the united states death toll is shy of 160,000, so it could double by the end of the year. but masks could save 70,000 of those. it's incredible. the cases tonight nearing 5 million. tonight confronted with the grim numbers, the president pointed the finger of blame at the nation's governors. >> looking back on this awful plague that's now killed almost 160,000 americans, there were some missteps. don't you wish you had done some things differently? >> i think that first of all the governors run the states. you understand that. that's the way it's set up. that's the way it's supposed to be. but no, i think we've done an unbelievable job. >> no mistakes. blaming the governors.

is this the same president trump who said he alone can fix just about everything? >> i understand the tax laws better than almost anyone, which is why i am the one who can fix them. i can fix the trade deals and make them phenomenal. our roads and bridges are falling apart. i alone can fix it. i can really tell you i can fix the inner cities. when i look at the terrible schools, the terrible trade deals, the infrastructure crumbling in our inner cities, i know all of this can be fixed and i can fix. >> all of those things falling to the governors too. he goes from fixing absolutely everything, i alone, to passing the buck. he's never put forward a national strategy to deal with coronavirus. as a matter of fact it has been 125 days as i speak to you tonight since the cdc urged every american toer wah a mask.

and yet you can count on one hand the number of times the president of the united states has wore a masks. tonight the cdc says masks alone can save 70,000 deaths over the next few months. his lack of leadership has left a gaping hole when it comes to america's response and the people who had to fill the hole are the governors trump blames. there are eight states, half of them led by republican governors, now banding together to go it alone and do their own testing. listen to what the governors of this country of both parties have said on this show. >> as gov fernors, we've had to step up and do the job. >> the frustrating thing was governors were out there scrambling around trying to figure out how to solve this crisis when we did need more leadership on a number of these major issues. >> this comes as president trump is tying a vaccine to his

re-election. >> i'm rushing it. i am. i'm pushing everybody. if you had another president other than me, you wouldn't be talking vaccines for two years. >> what's the earliest we can see a vaccine? >> sooner than the end of the year. could be much sooner. >> sooner than november 3rd. >> i think in some cases, yes, it's possible before. but right around that time. >> would it be before the election? >> it wouldn't hurt. it wouldn't hurt. >> it wouldn't hurt to get to that vaccine. let's go to first thing's first. it is insulting to every scientist and doctor and expert who are working night and day to get a vaccine to suggest they would not be working as hard, to suggest it would take them two additional years if hillary clinton just happened to be president. that's just awful. it's not true. and second a vaccine should have nothing to do with politics. yes, a vaccine by november ready for mass use would be great. that would exceed all of the

experts' optimistic expectations. to push out a vaccine before your election acknowledging that would help your campaign is alarming. health experts are pleading with the fda, writing we can only perform as advocates if we are persuaded that the vaccine truly is safe and effective. jeremy diamond begins our coverage "outfront" near the white house tonight. jeremy, the president certainly is pushing a vaccine. in his own words, he's rushing it. >> reporter: that's right. and every day, erin, seems to bring more wishful thinking from the president, more misinformation as it relates to coronavirus. today was on the issue of the vaccine with the president making this evidence-free claim that a vaccine could be ready by the november 3rd election. it was strange, of course, from political perspective as to the president claiming that a vaccine will be delivered by then when there is no evidence from the scientist that that is going to happen. every medical expert including

dr. anthony fauci who commented on this just yesterday has said that a vaccine, likely the earliest timeline would be the end of this year or the beginning of next year. so, the november 3rd timeline doesn't bear any scientific voracity to it. but it's just the latest ample, erin, because just ed why it was the president making the comment about children being immune from the virus. of course they are not. and the president claiming this virus would somehow disappear. today the president was traveling in the country. he was in ohio where he visited a manufacturing plant. the nt wasn't very focused on coronavirus. he seemed more focus on the 2020 re-election with the president turning a taxpayer funded event into a campaign rally speech with the president going off on various tangents including going directly after joe biden and raising questions about his mental fitness. >> jeremy, thank you very much. i want to go to dr. sanjay gupta

and dr. william azle teen, the author of "a covid back to school guide." so sanjay the president said he's rushing a vaccine. he says hopefully by election day, won't hurt him at re-election. that would be a record establishment. when this conversation first started about a vaccine, we would have been lucky to have one that we knew was safe and effective a year from now, right, and maybe even later. now we're talking about optimistic projections by the end of year, and he's now saying ready to go, fully safe, effective by the end of the october. does that concern you in terms of rush? >> well, it is very fast. there's no question about it. it's unprecedented in terms of its pace. and erin, it's impossible as i've covered the story for six months to truly disentangle anything completely from politics. that's just the nature of what things are right now.

having said that in your opening comments you're saying we've got to trust the scientists working on this. they would have been working just as hard. i think also the people who are going to evaluate this as well. i've talked to a lot of sources within the fda. there are many people looking at this data and reporting to other people. you've got to have some trust in that review process and that regulation process. we has journalists are going to have to demand full trans parent si of the data and be able to independently value this. i'm not worried that an unsafe product would come out, but the process that it's tough to disintangle things from politics. >> it certainly is. i want to play a little bit more about what the president said about potential vaccines. here he is. >> [ inaudible question ] are you optimistic that will happen? and will that give you a boost in the election? >> the vaccine. >> yes. >> i am. i'm optimistic it will be around

that date. i believe we'll have it by the end of the year, but around that date, yes. i think so. >> froes sor, it usually takes years to develop a vaccine, not months. by any standard you've got everyone in the world working on this. it has moved incredibly quickly. what are the risks of rushing anything at this point? >> well, i can tell you one thing for sure is that by october, november or december, we're not going to know it's safe. you can't know that. it's going to take at least a year follow up to know a vaccine is safe. so, we're not going to know the most important thing for our children and our older people who are going to be sensitive taking this whether it's safe or not. you just aren't going to know. you may have some safety data that's far different from saying you're going to give it to 300 million people and not expect some lethal and other very serious side effects. you just don't know. secondly, we're not going to know if it's really effective.

you do not have time to know how long it's going to protect you, how well it's going to protect you between now and the end of the year is less than six months. you just don't have time to know what it's going to do. that's why the companies that are most responsible are saying it's going to take a longer period of time. that doesn't mean that you can't twist, distort, let's even call it warp the process so you get something that looks like it's approved. remember hydroxychloroquine was emergency use authorization approved before it was yanked and people were horrified that that happened, but it did. and i'm afraid it may happen again under this enormous political pressure. look what's happened to the cdc recommendations against opening and for school reopening. they've been distorted. they've been warped. and it could happen again. >> well, that's a pretty

interesting point you raised about hydroxychloroquine. right. you did get that approval. they then had to resend it. sanjay, this comes as ohio's governor mike dewine tested positive, right before he was set to meet with president trump. the only reason, we understand, he got tested is because he was going to meet with president trump. president trump says we test too much, we test too much. but the governor of a state only was able to get tested because he was meeting with the president, right? so, the president was protected, but plenty of other people weren't, right? and this is a governor who wasn't even able to get tested. it's pretty incredible, isn't it? >> it really is. there would be a great retrospective on this at some point to say what exactly what happened with testing. this was a failure all the way around. i interviewed dr. fauci yesterday. he said unacceptable period. that was his quote when it came to testing. governor dewine, i hope he's okay.

it sounds like he's feeling well or not having symptoms. the idea there is testing that is considered assurance testing to give you assurance that in fact you are not carrying the virus, we're nowhere close to that in this country. we're mainly testing people in hotspots that have symptoms. fwhoert really doing surveillance testing to get the idea of what's out there. then this idea of assurance testing -- my kids are thinking about going to school. how do i know they're not going to unintentionally infect somebody or they're going to become infected by somebody who didn't know they had it? we're nowhere near close enough to the assurance testing unless you're going to visit the president. that should be available for widely. these tests aren't perfect. there's a false negative rate. you still need to wear masks f. your goal is to not spread this, you have to do both. >> the president saying there's too much testing. there's people in manuals that say that. there aren't. when he's the one that benefits from the fact there is any testing at all. we already now -- go merhmert a

the candidate in texas and dewine, all these people were going to be around the president. they all had coronavirus. he would have had coronavirus at some point. dewine was working, the governor, until he tested positive, two days ago holding a briefing on the state's response to the pandemic, obviously as of now does not seem to be symptomatic. this seems to be part of a problem. he would never maybe have known he had it and obviously could have totally unintentionally been infecting other people. >> that's very true, and in fact it's one of the insidious parts of this virus. the great majority of people don't even know they've had it. the way we should think of testing is we test the worried. we don't test everybody. now, project that on to schools. are you only going to be testing the worried and not everybody who might be infected? the best data we have now suggests that we miss 9 out of 10 actual infections. how do we know that?

we test for people who have had the virus by looking for antibodys in their blood. it's ten times higher than the number you get for those who actually tested positive. and that's not just in this country. it's in spain and many countries. we're testing worried not the people who might actually be spreading the virus. >> and sanjay, just a quick follow up here. dewine spoke this afternoon. i want to quickly play what he said about the response he's getting from people to his diagnosis. >> i've already got a few texts, not so nice texts from people about that. sort of, you know, we told you this was all fake and we told you that wearing masks didn't matter. but look, we know it -- we know it does. >> sanjay, here we are, 70,000 deaths the cdc says could be prevented. about 140,000 additional by the end of the year if people wore

masks. and you still have people who believe masks don't matter and it is a hoax, it is unbelievable and the president could do a lot to change that, couldn't he? >> oh yeah, absolutely. there needs to be a national mandate on masks. i think we could make so much progress in this country if we did that. but you're seeing the kind of thinking that's getting in the way and some of that unfortunately is enabled by the president and other people saying it's not that important or not demonstrating it themselves. this is the worse public health crisis in our lifetime. the fact we can make significant progress with a mask, why don't we do that? >> thank you both very much. sanjay will be back at the top of the hour for our global coronavirus town hall. all masks are not equal when it comes to aerosols. they could be inhaled even when the protective barrier. so, masks work but which ones. i'm going to speak to an expert who will give us a live demonstration. germany taking extreme measures to prevent the spread of the

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indiana with the most number of cases. this as there are more troubling signs across the country. martin savidge is "outfront." >> this is a predictor of trouble ahead. >> reporter: experts worry about the percentage of positive test results in the country on the rise in 38 states. white house coronavirus task force coordinator dr. deborah birx outlining areas in danger. >> we are concerned that both baltimore and atlanta remain at very high level, kansas city, portland, omaha and of course we talked abt the central valley. >> reporter: dr. anthony fauci warning even a small uptick, a fraction of a percent, is a problem. >> it's a clear indication that you are getting an uptick in cases which inevitably as we've seen in the southern states leads to surges and then you get hospitalizations and then you get deaths. >> reporter: louisiana and mississippi top the list of

states with the highest per capita rate. dr. fauci says it's still possible to get coronavirus down to manageable levels by the november election if people do the right thing like wear masks. across the country, states, cities, even sports are cracking down on people doing the wrong things. the governor of rhode island is asking residents to report people gathering in large numbers not wearing masks. and in los angeles county where infections among young people have quadrupled since june, the mayor of los angeles is authorizing the city to shut off water and power to places where big parties are held. >> don't be a weak link in the chain. be a very strong part of the chain of ultimately getting us down. >> reporter: major league baseball also cracking down after covid outbreaks on two

teams. new rules threaten players with suspicion for failing to wear a mask at all times when not on the field and requires that surgical or n95 masks be worn while players are on buses and airplanes. cloth masks are not allowed. when on the road, players and coaches also have to get permission before leaving the hotel. and college football could face its own challenges. >> i think it's going to be very dependent upon what we do as americans. you know, the trend lines right now, of course, are very challenges in some parts of the country, they're awful. >> reporter: getting back to the subject of masks, the cdc is not recommending that people wear masks that have these things kind of like valves or vents on them. some people like them because they say they can breathe easier. the problem is they may help protect you from coronavirus but they don't prevent you from spreading it if you have it. a mask is supposed to be

twofold, protection and prevent. delta says they wouldn't count this as a legitimate mask on they of their flights. >> martin, thank you very much. it's important for people to realize. a lot of people wear those vents. they don't realize it's pointless in terms of spreading it. joining me now is professor engineering in virginia tech and also expert on viral transmission. so, this is what you know and you know it better than anyone. you have been saying for some time that airborne transmission is a way this virus can spread. the w.h.o. only recently revising its position to concede that this can happen, that the virus can linger in the air indoors, it can hang out there and spread. i'm going to show a simulation from florida atlantic university which shows how droplets from coughs travel and remain in the air. you say aerosols are even smaller than those droplets. so, tell me what they are, how long they stay in the air. if i walk in a room and i walk

in, am i just walking into a cloud of virus if it's there? >> the droplets are coming out when we cough but also when we talk. this simulation shows a mannequin coughing, it's a simulated cough, and these droplets are on the larger side compared to what comes out when we're talking and coughing. there's a lot more that come out when we're talking that are too small. these are aerosols, microscopic droplets, kind of like what you see there which are smaller. those can stay floating in the air for hours at a time, and it's a good way to think about how they behave is to think about a cigarette smoker. if you're close to that person and you walk through that plume you're going to breathe a lot of smoke. but if you're farther away or the person is gone for a long time, there will be a lot less virus in the air. >> but it's still there, you can still smell it. it's an interesting analogy.

i know you've been testing the effectiveness of the masks and you've been doing it on mannequins. you found that all these cloth masks people are wearing are not created equal. i wanted to give you a chance to show so people understand. show us what you found with these cloth masks. >> what we've been doing is testing in the laboratory using a mannequin. i brought an example here. we put a hole in the mouth in the front and it goes through the back. there's black taper around there to keep the foam from falling apart. if we want to test how well the mask protects others, we put the mask on the mannequin and use a nebulizer, kind of like what people with asthma might use to administer medication. and it generates droplets that are similar in size to what comes out when we talk or breathe. and we run that through the back of the mannequin. so, the mask is blocking some of that. we put this into a chamber like a big box and we have an instrument in that chamber that

also measures the droplets that are in the chamber. so, we can turn this on and then we measure our droplets. hopefully there's not much meaning that the mask is blocking a lot. and then we could also pull the mask down. and in that case we'll see a lot more droplets in the air. if we want to see how well the mask protects others, we instead take our nebulizer and fill up the chamber with droplets. and we then measure what comes through the mannequin's mouth through the back. and we can do that, again, with and without the mask on to see how well the mask works. >> okay. so, it looks like you have the ones we all have from amazon. i've got mine here somewhere. everyone has those. and cloth ones. ones with vents. you've tested them all. which ones work the best? >> we found that fabrics that are heavier and with a denser weave work better. microfiber cloth works really well for smaller particles,

smaller droplets whereas a cotton t-shirt isn't so good for those smaller ones. but for the larger one that are still too small to see, but the larger ones where we think most of the transmission occurs, almost all masks are good at blocking at least half of those. but if we go back to the smaller ones, that's where the fit of the mask is really important. and even if a fabric is really good at blocking the smaller ones, if it's stipulate and creates gaps around your face, you lose that efficacy. >> thank you very much. that's important for people to understand especially with the fit. we've all experienced the gaps on the sides. that's really important. thank you so much professor. i appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. and next, as we hear daily calls for testing in this country, would you believe me if i told you testing actually dropped over the past week? because it did. and the powerful nra feeling heat tonight from the new york attorney general who is suing

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new tonight president trump claiming that other kucountries are doing worse than the united states in fighting coronavirus and saying that other countries are putting out false numbers. >> you know, they don't talk about other countries. a lot of these countries that were doing so well, a lot of these countries, now they have big flare ups, big flare ups in italy and spain right now and france. and you look at our statistics, you know, we're a bigger country and you have to look other countries don't report real numbers. >> but reports in germany, the mantra in that country is, don't become the united states. >> reporter: it's the new normal for anyone arriving at german airports, get your suitcase and then get a coronavirus test. toby rosen just got back home to berlin. >> the line's been pretty short.

it's only, like, 30 minutes. i think i get results in the next 24 hours. >> reporter: germany is offering all travellers arriving here free coronavirus tests. and starting saturday, people coming from high-risk areas will be required to get tested on arrival. the german government says it doesn't want the situation here to deteriorate, for instance, the way it has in the united states with tens of thousands of new cases every day. that's why they're taking the drastic step of offering everyone who enters the country a coronavirus testame. germany has the capacity for about 1.2 million tests per week, official data shows, and berlin says the pandemic remains under control here. there's only been one day with more than 1,000 new infections in the past three months. even as president trump continues to falsely claim the u.s. is doing better than countries like germany. >> if you look at death, start to go up again.

well, right here, united states is lowest in numerous categories. we're lower than the world. >> lower than the world? >> we're lower than europe. >> what's that? in what? in what? >> take a look. right here. here's case deaths. >> oh, you're doing death as a proportion of cases. i'm talking about death as a proportion of population. that's where the u.s. is really bad. much worse than south korea, germany, et cetera. >> reporter: johns hopkins data shows that both south korea and germany indeed have a much lower number of coronavirus deaths per 100,000 residents. today, germany's health minister says the drastic increase in testing is part of a broad strategy to prevent new lockdowns meant to save lives. it arises from an obligation for us as a society to look after and protect each other, he says. and there are other strict measures in place.

travellers from high-risk countries who are not residents of europe are banning from coming here altogether. the u.s. is considered a high-risk country with the trump administration failing to contain the outbreak. >> reporter: and erin it's not clear when americans will be able to enter europe. the numbers simply have to go down in the u.s. meanwhile the germans say what they're doing right now at the border with testing everyone is very expensive, takes a lot of effort. but they say they think it is paying off. they say 2% of the people tested at the border tested positive for covid-19. they say everyone they can filter out and isolate is someone who's not going to be affecting other people as europe is, indeed, trying to stop the pandemic in its tracks before it returns in full force. >> thank you very much. i want to go to dr. jonathan reiner, medical director at the white house for george w. bush

and cardiac cath lab at gw. the united states is high risk but technically americans are banned unless you have residency status now. we're so high risk we don't even get to the border for germany. they're doing this though so they don't become the united states. what does that say to you? >> that's not the kind of american exceptionalism we've been proud of for the last century. germany has really flattened the curve in their country. although cases have spiked in germany, they had about a thousand cases today, they had 7 deaths. the u.s. had 1,200 deaths today. germany has excess testing capacity. germany can scale up their testing. they're doing that now. they have pop up testing stations in airports. there's no charge for testing for anyone in germany. and they have the ability to expand. our testing is sort of maxed out right now at about 4 million to

5 million tests per week. we need to rapidly expand that but we've really been stuck here. in fact, for the last several days our testing has dropped a bit. >> let me ask you about that because it has. we were at 800,000 tests a day, 900,000 tests at one point. which is nowhere near where we need to be. we're now at 682,000. ashish jha, the testing expert says we need to be at 4 million tests a day, a day, to reach suppression levels. and we're clearly not going there. >> right. we need to be at 30 million tests per week and we're doing 5 to 6 million tests per week. one way to look at whether we're doing enough tests again is to look at the positivity rates. so, if you look at our numbers of tests in the united states, it's dropped in some of the southern states and southwest states where the virus is really very active. so, although the number of tests

or positives in places like mississippi has gone down, the positivity rate remains about 22%. same thing for florida. the number of positive cases in florida has dropped, but that's really a function of less testing. positivity rate in florida remains about 17.5%. the u.s. as a whole, our positivity rate is about 7.6%. it's plateaued there. it had been as low as 4.5% in june. and we're stuck about 7.6%. our best states are doing really well. new york has a positivity rate of about 1%. it's just a little bit higher than that in d.c. but it's really patchy around the country. >> you've got connecticut at .2. just to make the point where it's bad it's really bad and it's going to ricochet. you have things in south korea, your cell phone number is taken if you're positive, your credit card numbers, gps coordinates put in a system so people can look at where you were, not where you say you were, where

you were and trace it down. that will never happen here, but some of that could happen, right? now we're not contact tracing nothing. you have a party in greenwich and parents don't want people to know so they don't tell the truth about where their kids were. >> yeah, google and android have a technological solution for this. we have to be willing to accept it. that is everyone walks around with a contact tracer in their pocket. everyone has a cell phone. and the technology to identify who you're close to during the day exists. it would be a change in what we consider our, quote, privacy in our country, but we have the ability to know where we've been and who's been with us and then contact trace from there. and we may get to the point where we really need to do that. >> dr. reiner, thank you. and next, taking on the nra, a lawsuit just filed alleging jaw dropping corruption. the attorney general wants the powerful group dissolved and she's "outfront" to tell you what she found. trouble comprehending a simple text mess sanl.

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tonight the nra countersuing new york state's attorney general after she sued the nra and said she wants to dissolve it. she claims the group lost more than $63 million over three years because of widespread dealing by the own rs. the suit claims he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on private planes for himself and his family including times he wasn't even on the plane, including at least 8 private plane trips to the bahamas, trips to africa with his wife for all-expense safaris gifted by a vendor, and spending $3.6 million on travel consultants. attorney general, i appreciate your time. these examples do sound awful. you say you found example after example of wrong doing, financial mismanagement, total corruption like getting a $17 million contract with the nra without board approval that

paid him even after he lost -- even after he would lose election at executive vice president. what else did you find out? >> so, what we found out is that the nra diverted millions upon millions of dollars from its charitable mission. and it's unfortunate that mr. wayne la pierre and three members of leadership who include woody phillips who was the treasurer, the chief of staff joshua powell, as well as the council john frazier, all of them engaged in the looting of the charitable assets of this organization. it's unfortunate they failed to assure -- to subscribe to standard fiscal controls. they failed to respond adequately to whistleblowers. they failed to look at related party transactions. they concealed and nature and scope of whistleblower concerns, and they failed to review potential conflicts of law. and obviously they failed to

follow the law as well as possibly the internal revenue code. as a result of that, our complaint lays out all of the facts that these four individuals engaged in as well as the nra and what we are seeking is that this corporation, which was formed under the not-for-profit law in the state of new york, that it be dissolved. we are also seeking that these four individuals no longer serve in leadership position at the nra and not serve on any other board in the state of new york. and last but not least, that they account for the amount of money that they looted including but not limited to their exaggerated compensation. >> so, look, what you allege happened here is awful. you use the word looting. it would seem a fair description for some of this that you allege in the suit. but let me ask you this. you say dissolving the group. why -- why not just remove these guys and have them pay whatever

legal price they should pay for what they did if you can prove they did it? why do you need to dissolve the nra? >> because it was more than just these four individual defendants. it was the nra as a corporate structure. it was the 76 members of the exec committee who basically turned a blind eye. it was those individuals who were on the auditing committee who turned a blind eye. there were those individuals who were on the compensation committee who turned a blind eye and a deaf ear to all the whistleblower concerns and all of the allegations with regards to financial inpropriety. and that is why the nra to this date is operating in a deficit. and it's unfortunate that they violated their fiduciary duty and they engaged in this type of activity which ignored to the benefit of themselves as well as their family and close friends. >> so, they're now countersuing

you for defamation, violating their rights, saying your suit is baseless. they said the investigation is going to reach crescendo. it's a transparent attempt to score political points and attack the leading voice and the opposition of the leftist agenda. this is a desperate move that is part of a rank political vendetta. you know, it is less than three months before the election. do they have a point that this is political? >> no, it's not politics at all. this investigation began in 2019, and the complaint lays out all of the allegations and the facts, and again, the conclusions of law. so, it's unfortunate that they would engage in name calling. it's unfortunate that they would ignore the facts that lay bare in the complaint. but the bottom line is this, no one is above the law. and no matter how powerful you are including the nra.

and it's unfortunately flouted the law, evaded the law. they did not have financial controls in place. they rewarded their friends and paid them with consulting contracts for their loyalty. and anyone who complained who stepped out of line unfortunately was dismissed. and that, again, is in violation of the laws of the state of new yorkme yorkme yorkment. as a result of that i have a duty and responsibility to ensure that mission of all not for profits including the nra are protected. in this particular case they were not protected. they benefitted wayne la pierre and his leadership team. >> thank you. >> thank you, erin. next brain fog, double vision, other problems that won't go away. i'll speak to a coronavirus patient who has recovered from the illness but not from all of these very troubling issues it

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and fever, as well as kind of endless neurological issues like difficulty reading texts, difficulty following conversation. for a while, i was unable to kind of follow the plot of a movie. i was kind of just watching kid's cartoons for a while to pass the time. and before covid, i worked in machines and artificial intelligence. all of this has been very new to me. >> so i know it's been -- this is all encompassing. it's all parts of your life, even simple tasks like packing. you know, tell me about that, even something like packing, how is that now just so much more difficult? >> yes, i went through a move halfway through this. my lease was up and i haven't been able to work. i just wanted to be a little closer to family. i had this whole experience where i kind of just wasn't able

to like make a list and follow the list and, you know, put things in boxes. it's a very hard feeling to kind of describe, but it is just a very, very extreme brain fog, just issues of concentration and executive functioning that's made it difficult to participate in world. >> so you're saying it's hard to participate in the world fully. and just to be clear, you worked in artificial intelligence. you're not able to go back to work obviously because of this, right? >> for now, absolutely. you know, my neurologist believes that people with covid and people with long covid are experiencing something along the lines of a traumatic brain injury, and the recovery time is going to be similar to something like a concussion where you're looking at -- i mean, i'm

looking at six months to a year probably for the neurological issues alone. >> i mean, look, that's terrifying, and i'm really sorry, because i just -- it's your whole life and that uncertainty now that you're facing. i'm sure it's terrifying. you're young, only 32 years old. you were very healthy. so when you see people out there, all these new infections being driven by younger people who think that, you know, it's only serious if you're old, you know, what is your message to people like that right now? >> i absolutely have to tell them that this is very serious. you know, we were told for a very long time there were two present taugs ations to covid. either you were severe and were going to die or you were asymptomatic. it turns out this third very common presentation, that look like 35% of the population is not recovered by the two to three-week recovery period.

we ourselves found that if you're not recovered by day 27, the chance of being recovered by day 50 is only 20%. so these are very, very extreme, very long recoveries. very painful. they completely change your sense of self, they change your relationship to other people. they change what you're able to do in the world. you know, we have a lot of people in our support group that were athletes before hand that are just not able to go back to that. so this can happen to you. >> hanna, i appreciate you taking the time and sharing it. i hope that it is a full, full recovery and that you can go back to all that fulfilling work you were doing. thank you very much for sharing this with us. >> thank you so much. also tonight, it is now less than three months until election day, cnn films and hbo max

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