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in-person instruction until the metrics are met and our -- he did order the state health department to put metrics together and did that yesterday and actually they're pretty good so no county meets the standards. >> so interesting. >> a good thing and which means they're aggressive. >> right. >> they're driving policy. >> it is nice to see some -- i'm going to take it as good news as is. thank you for coming in. thank you for joining me today. cnn's coverage continues with john king right now. thank you, kate. hello, everybody. i'm john king in washington. an announcement from the new york governor on schools, all schools in the empire state can welcome kids back to the classroom saying this. if anyone can open schools, we can open schools. that from andrew cuomo. a reminder of the devastation.
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1.8 million americans have new jobs but july jobs growth way down from june, proof the summer surge right now stalling the american recovery. while the verdict is mixed, the daily case count is back up to 59,000 plus on thursday. the average number of cases over past seven days 55,000. stubbornly high but down from 64,000 per day this time last week and positivity up in 34 states and testing is down in more than half the country. american deaths remain the most troubling metric this hour. the united states has now averaged 1,000-plus deaths for 11 consecutive days. 1,250 americans perished yesterday, thursday. in total, 160,000 americans lost their lives to the coronavirus. death forecasts are one of many
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statistics, one piece of this puzzle but at the moment they're down right scary. the centers for disease control forecast said the death toll will climb to 181,000 by theened of this month, august. the new model says 300,000 americans may die by december. imagine scrubbing pittsburgh, st. louis or cincinnati from the map. some health officials say the numbers may be even worse than we think. >> you could call it the perfect storm that the cases are going up, our hospital saizations are going up and the deaths are going up and i'm afraid that the death projections are way under and what i mean by that is as we get more people tested we are finding that people that died we read an obituary and find out that, oh, they tested positive and we know that they had the virus but it is not claimed as part of the death and not being
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reported. >> some hotspots like that, big decisions and new york governor cuomo says all school districts can open including new york city. look at the trends. here's the state by state map and this is the most encouraging map we have been able to show you in quite sometime. only four states heading up, more cases reported this week compared to last week. 20 states holding steady. 26 states, a majority of the united states, 26 heading down. fewer cases. the challenge is to keep it this way. this is the most encouraging map of sometime. florida, arizona and california heading down, states that were driving the big summer surge. we have learned that deaths lag case count so while this map is improving somewhat there's still a lot of sadness, as well. 15 states reporting a higher death tote armando galarraga this week from coronavirus, that's the orange and the red. 15 states higher this week compared to last week.
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15 states holding steady. 20 states heading down. if that first map stays in shape this map will improve but 15 states still reporting more deaths. where are the cases coming from? california, florida and texas, the next two. they're down back two weeks ago from the peak of the summer surge. can you keep pushing it down? georgia and tennessee rounding out the top five. this is a challenge of smaller rural states moving up. we talked about new york city. there's a reason the governor says you can start opening your schools to every community across the state because new york is down here. go back a couple of months. may. 3,500, just shy every day. watch the average come down. may, june, july. here we are in august. this is why the governor said we
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managed this. we are in better shape. positi positivity is another important metric. have you pushed the point of the disease down to control the spread? back on may 1st nearly 15%, taking a test may 1st 15% were positive. you see the dip. 1%. 1%. this is where you want to be. this is why the governor says you can open schools. new york city mayor says i'm ready and will be careful. >> i want to hold new york city schoo schools to a tough standard and that's over a seven-day period if the average goes above 3% infection in new york city we would not open schools or close them in the school year. we have 1.1 million school kids and three quarters of the families said they want that support, the kids to do better educationally than they can do remotely and everything that goes with school, the physical
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health services, food. our obligation to do the best for parents and families. >> we are joined by the chancellor of the new york city department of education. sir, thank you for your time this morning. you have a green light from the governor. you heard the mayor talking about the as far as so let's walk through this in the largest public school district at the -- in this country, what is your number one metric? open schools and you're going to be watching for what? >> we're going to be watching the positivity rate that you talked about today. the mayor of new york city announced we are at 1%, hovering between 1% and 2% over the last 15 days. and that's a much stricter standard than even the world health organization which has said 5% positivity rate and we are in a place where we can even consider now in-person learning and that why we're happy that the governor given us the green light.
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we have been preparing since we pivoted to remote learning in march. >> you have a giant school population. 1.12 million students, 73% with economic disadvantage. 20% of them are students with disabilities. 40% hispanics, 26% black, 16% asian, 15% white. you have one of the most diverse school populations, economic challenges, language challenges. when you mentioned the positivity rate, how are you going to do that? just by -- is it going to be like it's been for months with similar tolls you get a test or do you want to implement a random testing? >> first and foremost, i want to kon congratulate the fellow new yorkers. in march we have the epicenter of the epicenter in america. because we stayed in, social distanced, we paid attention to the science and didn't fall for the science fiction we are able to drive that drive that
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positivity rate down. we will ask parents to be the partners. if your child is sick or is exhibiting any symptoms do not send them to school. if you're feeling sick, stay home. but we will have temperature checks, randomized temperature checks. everyone will be wearing personal protection equipment. face masks are required. people walking around disinfecting doorknobs, handrails. one way traffic in the hallways, we will have no more than nine to 12 students in the classrooms and scientifically based measures to keep the students safe but what the mayor has said and i have also said is that we are going to be looking like hawks at the numbers. and if the numbers of the positivity rate starts to inch upward and gets to 3% we will remote learn for the entire system. so we have a number of protocols to work through and very conservative about it, just a matter of life and death for our
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children and those that serve our children. >> i'm sure you have seen some school districts reopened around the country and this is a small sample, there have been photographs of very crowded hallways, students without masks that have come out of school districts open already and i'm sure you've seen and too close together and guessing this is not their fault and told to go from class to class. are you staggering class time so that you can alleviate this? how do you deal with that in the hallway? and you can stagger class times. you can tell people to do things but do you have the resources? people in the halls to keep eyes on it saying, whoa, spread out? >> first and foremost, if you followed the medical guidance then you shouldn't have that many students in a school building at any one time anyway. the six feet between individuals is just thrown out the window so not knowing the particulars i
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tell you in new york city there's -- it's impossible to have 100% of the students in the school building at the same time any given day and adhere to the safety protocols and the social distancing so we put forward three to five models that we've asked our schools to try on for size. one of them assuming that because of the distancing recommendations and guidance you can only get one third of your students into the building in one day. some of them are based on 50% but it's all based on the fact that we will limit the number of individuals in a school building. there's some downsides to that. on a weekly basis, some children will be in person for two or three days and then remote learning for the other two or three days and it will be kind of a rotation that way. obviously it is not ideal but if we keep to what medical science, experts tell us, you have to limit how many people are in a confined space at any given time and we feel very confident that
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with that reduced number of students that we will be able to maintain the social distancing and all of the medically advised requirements to have people in the same space. >> richard, the chancellor of new york city department of education, you have one of the most challenging jobs in the country at this moment. we'll keep in touch and wish you the best as you walk through this. >> thank you, john. >> thank you, sir. and this just in, the mother of georgia teenager that posted this video of her school's crowded hallway says her daughter will no longer be suspended for sharing that picture. the student hannah waters told cnn she didn't regret posting the photo saying it was good and necessary trouble, a nod to the late georgia congressman john lewis. the school district superintendent defended the crowded hallway saying it was in compliance with state guidelines. up next, what a governor's conflicting test results tell us about testing problems we still have all across the country. try wayfair. you got this!
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realtime example yesterday of some of the confusion of which coronavirus test works, which can you most rely on. the ohio governor dewine supposed to be with the president yesterday. he went for a rapid test in the morning and told he was coronavirus positive and could not be with the president and then took a different test and told he was negative and all is fine. there's confusion about which to trust and walk through a little bit of the testing scenario. let's just look at the numbers of new tests conducted, different versions across the united states. the seven-day moving average was going up. test more people. track the virus. a bit of a dip of late that has some experts concerned saying we need more testing, not as the president often says, less testing. this tells you the coronavirus is not under control. you cannot corral a virus with more than 7% of the tests are positive. back to the beginning of june it was a much -- 5%.
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beginning of june peaked near 10%, the middle of july, still above 7%. this is a bad metric trying to control the coronavirus. new york state is down to 1%. which states are driving the numbers? still 21% of the tests in texas coming back positive. 20% in mississippi. 18% in florida. almost 18% in south carolina, 17.5% in idaho. this is one number we look at. one of the confusion is if you're going to get a test which test should you get? which test should you trust? again, the governor of ohio, a man leading the state's response to the coronavirus even he's a little confused. >> what type of test was it that you took that gave you the results so quickly? i'm curious how available those tests are. >> you know, this was a test that was arranged by the white house and frankly that's all i know. obviously it is a rapid test. they got the results back wright away but beyond that i can't
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tell you. >> with us now to share expertise is dr. michael meana. doctor, great to see you again. just to the point that the governor was making there, he took a rapid test in the morning, an antigen test i believe it's called, came back positive. told you can't be around the president and then he and the family and the staff take a little test later, the swab test and told he is negative. do we have an issue in the country and if so how big of an issue about the reliability of some of these tests? >> yeah, so tests have all different met ricks as we have heard about. sensitivity specificity. it is an issue that's extraordinarily common especially in infectious disease diagnostics and what happened with the governor is what we expect to happen. if a test is found to be positive you can run another test if your risk of being -- having been infected is low.
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then you get a confirmation. we have done this with hiv for decades now. having a confirmatory. this is sensationalized now with such confusion around the issue but from a laboratory medicine perspective these issues are common place. >> so let's walk through it for people who maybe going back to work and will see testing, maybe the children to go back to school and that would require testing. do we know at this point, you know, let's just -- the governor's example. the pcr test coming back negative for him a throat or nasal test detecting viral rna and he is the governor and got the result stat from the lab. the other is a throat or nasal swab, detects viral proteins, less accurate. is that a fair presentation? >> i think accuracy is all about
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what your target is and so one of the things that viral pcr does when you look for the rna of the virus it will do a very good job defined rna but in the same way that you can find dna just on somebody's piece of hair doesn't mean that there's a person there if their piece of hair is there. this is a problem with pcr actually where it can tell you that you are positive when maybe you were actually trance mitting the virus maybe weeks ago and so antigen test can in some ways be considered more accurate to tell somebody when they're at risk of spreading the virus if they have it but they have a consequence of potentially having a slightly greater number of false positives like what happened with the governor. and so, we just have to ensure that when the tests are introduced as a population level that we have appropriate access to confirmatory tests to make sure that all the results this people are getting back for
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themselves are accurate. >> so my analysis of that, i'm a layperson, the variety is a good thing to have different tests and that you're going to have, yes, false positives or false negatives sometimes going through it coming with the territory. are theests now six months in better than rewinding the clock two months or four months ago? >> i think the access to testing is improving slightly. we are still -- i would say that all of the efforts that have been pushed forth have improved the numbers of tests may be we're going to get 50% improvement over the next few months, for example. i don't want to see 50% improvement. we need 50 fold improvements, meaning maybe 50 million tests every day so i think access is slowly getting better. the test quality is certainly getting better but we need to
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massively scale up testing in this country in a way that requires new innovations and federal oversight to push whole new chapters in this arena. >> i hope that the decision makers who have that power listen to the experts like you, dr. mina. thank you. we'll talk again i'm sure. thank you. >> absolutely. up next, we shift to the coronavirus impact on the economy. u.s. jobs struggling to make a comeback and up on capitol hill stimulus talks crumbling. if your dry eye symptoms keep coming back, inflammation in your eye might be to blame. looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me. xiidra works differently, targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. what is that? xiidra, noooo! it can provide lasting relief. xiidra is the only fda approved treatment specifically for the signs and symptoms
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new jobs? yes. enough new jobs? very much no. new unemployment report from the government reminds us how deep of a ditch the pandemic dug for the american population. 1.8 million jobs were added last month, down from the nearly 5 million jobs added in joon. the unemployment rate did drop to 10.2 pistons, again still higher than the peak of the great recession back in 2009. today's report comes as we're told stimulus talks appear to be on the brink of collapsing. negotiators set to meet today and the president said he might take executive action. with me to discuss is a panel. lauren, i want to start with you on capitol hill because speaker pepe sy and chuck schumer made
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an offer. any chance of success? >> reporter: right. it is a pretty significant offer. what they say they offered was to come down a trillion dollars. remember, the house bill was about 3.4 trillion and putting them at 2$2.4 trillion and the white house rejected that deal so that being a nonstarter. remember at the macro level the difference in the talks are how big, the scale of the stimulus bailout and right now the two sides seem very far apart not just on unemployment insurance, state and local dollars, how to get kids back to school but an agreement on the top line number and we are now 11 days into these talks and no significant break through, john. >> but some movement there. we'll see. they meet this afternoon and see. the first reactions aren't always the last reaction. we'll see if that gets anything going. julia chatterley, question is,
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what shape is the patient in right now? looking at the jobs report, 22.1 million jobs lost in march and april. we are still missing close to 13 million jobs. rate the patient right now. >> the patient is still very sick, john. that's the bottom line. yes, we recovered just over 40% of the jobs lost in the pandemic and good news today to see more jobs expected than we thought added back in july. but look at the momentum, the pace of the recover is slowing here. we are at an inflection point. what happens next depends on the recovery, consumers, how confident businesses are to rehire the attentional workers but it also will depend on financial aid. what congress do here because if you cut benefits people cut spending and that has an impact on the recovery. it slows the recovery so so many
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determinants. >> and so, michelle, this is why i'm grateful you're here writing about people outside of the beltway who have to make real decisions and most things from washington they hear is blah blah blah. making a noise they don't care about and don't understand but they have a high stake in this one. the bonus unemployment benefits expired. the ppp program as a small business is running out. what is your advice at this moment for americans whether they're individuals who have lost their job or a small business who is struggling who is waiting to see if washington will help some more and right now the answer is we don't know? >> so first of all, get mad and write your congress people on both sides and just flood them with your real stories because the commentary coming especially out of the white house is that, oh, if we give them more money they won't go want to work and ridiculous and clearly people
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who are saying those things have never actually worked with people who are out of work. nobody in the right mind would turn down a full-time job that has security in a sense to take an unemployment check. but until we have those policies in place, we have extra money, you have to -- people are already tight. you know? we have to be even tighter with the budget. you know? reach out to public service organizations. you know if you are renting and not getting anywhere with the landlord, contact some of the legal services in the community to sort of figure out how can you stay where you are if you get an eviction notice. what should you do? you have to be proactive. stay in contact with the creditors, credit card company, the mortgage company. the more information you give them the -- they may work with you more. certainly the banks will. your landlord, too. i think sometimes we have to
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think about the landlords. they have bills to pay. we all have to work at this together to get through and i don't think the white house should rejoice at the numbers because there are a lot of people out of work and out of work even more as more cases come up in the various states. >> people's legs are tired from this uncertainty and the difficulty. >> they are. >> very much appreciate your insights. very important day. see if the talks get anywhere. appreciate it very much. sports in the bubble, is this new way of testing, training and living really keeping players safe? ing diabets you can't always stop for a fingerstick. with the freestyle libre 14 day system, a continuous glucose monitor, you don't have to. with a painless, one-second scan you can check your glucose with a smart phone or reader so you can stay in the moment. no matter where you are or what you're doing. ask your doctor for a prescription for the freestyle
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like getting help. >> back in front. scores! travis -- >> washington capitals losing to the philadelphia flyers on thursday 3-1. that is a very normal sentence about sports in a normal time and happens to be a sentence written by a man who writes for the program and let him get away with it today. there are no fans. hockey, men's and women's basketball inside bubbles right now. the home is that isolation keeps the seasons going without hiccups of baseball and talks of nixing the college football season. joining me now is the chairman and ceo of monumental sports. ted, it's good to see you. i see you in the arena sometimes
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and i don't do that anymore because we can't go to the arena. walk through. you have three pieces of this remarkable and dicey experiment. so far, this is the sum zeros. zero positives in the nhl since july 26th. in the nba since july 29th. in the wnba since july 10th. the bubbles appear to be working. what is the key in success in your view? >> we took player and staff safety as paramount and first and we assured everyone that they would go into this bubble. they would be tested. they would follow protocol. and they would have an opportunity then just to focus on their craft and play the game. but also, use that bubble and the platform that pro sports would supply to be able to do social justice work and so so far so good.
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i've often said i wish we were all living life in a bubble right now because it seems to be working. and people are taking it very seriously. we also know how fragile it is and i think that that collective partnership between the players and the yurnunion and the leagud ownership is making this work. >> you are not just an owner you are a fan. you are there rooting for the teams because you love the games. what's it been like for you as a viewer? it is strange to watch these games with no fans. there's nobody yelling at the refs or booing or cheering the players. take us inside that experience. >> you can see i'm wearing my orange wnba hoodie. we have two games tonight, the mystics are playing and the wizards are playing. thank you for mentioning the defending champ. i feel terrible that mystics
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weren't able nor were the nationals to be able to celebrate the way champions do. today all of our employees are going to the arena, socially distanced to pick up, gave everyone rings and we love watching the games. in fact, i would say that the production value in the wubble for the wnba and bubble for nba in toronto where the caps play is high quality. the crowd noise, the new camera angles, that worked. putting the black lives matter on the floor at both the wnba and nba, allowing the players to self express has allowed for there to be great competition, the quality of the games has been better than the regular season. i think the average ten-point
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differential in the nba so far in the bubble's about 75% during the regular season it is 55%. so everyone is playing hard. every game matters. the ratings are up nationally so the players know that there's a lot riding on this and we're very, very grateful that so far the leagues and the players have been able to deliver if you will basketball nirvana and hockey nirvana and i think fans are really enjoying the games and can't wait for the playoffs to start. >> you mentioned the social justice messages that many of the players in all three leagues are trying to advance during this period of time. the president of the united states doesn't like it. listen. >> i think this is going to hurt. i personally won't be watching much. i think when you have people kneeling, there are of plenty places to protest, not when they raise the flag and playing the
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national anthem and kneeling in the anthem i'm not a watcher. >> it's players exercising the first amendment right at an important time in the country but the president doesn't like it. lebron james said, great, we won't miss you. you don't have to watch, sir. what is your take on that especially as someone that lives in the nation's capital? >> it's a player driven self expression and we want to support the players and it was a part of our promise. we were living through a pandemic and we also had this black lives matter moment which we promised that we would work with the players to turn it more into a movement. and so, we have to meet our commitments. i think long term obviously is a media property you want to have a wide reach and we want to make sure that the focus is more on the game but right now i think it is very, very appropriate. >> ted leonsis, good to see you.
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i wish i could see you in person. >> i miss you, john. don't you miss the little things? walking through the arena. the smells of popcorn, see fans, high five the players, all those little things and can't wait until we get that back and things can proceed back to normal. >> yes. both my youngest son and the oldest son yelling at the refs is something i miss very, very much. it will work out soon, ted, we hope. best of luck in the days for all three teams. when we come back, the president attacking the rival. we'll be right back. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing.
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>> biden trying to clarify the remarks saying in no way did i mean to suggest the african-american is a monolith. not by identity or issues, not at all. i have witnessed the diversity of thought in the community and never stop fights for the african-american community. with me to discuss is nia-malika henderson. the president is pressing this because joe biden did have to clean up his words. >> yeah. he did have to clean up his words there basically trafficking in stereotypes about african-americans. i think one thing it goes to show is that even if you have black friends, etch if you were the vice president of the nation's first black president you can hold stereotypical views of african-americans. trying to clarify. i imagine that this is a moment
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where his staffers are pulling out their hair. we don't know the kind of campaigner joe biden will be when things get really tough. we have seen so far that the strategy is to stand back and let the president essentially set himself on fire, particularly around racial issues and here he is today having to clarify a very, very troubling remark he made about african-americans. joe biden's strategy in some ways in terms of getting african-american voters is the noun verb barack obama approach to getting that vote. i think he will have to fight much more for it and certainly be much more humble when he talks about race, talking about african-americans, too, because he quite realizes there's a number of african-americans, particularly progressive african-americans who have to hold their noses to vote for him
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with the object being to defeat donald trump and to defeat trumpism so he's making that harder and harder by in some ways reminding people of some of the issues he has had in the past around racial remarks and the crime bill and other issues so a real gaffe by this candidate that i think again will have to humble himself in terms of talking about race and african-americans in particular. >> the president again some people question the credibility on the issues and smart to try to drive a piece of joe biden's base away. to that point, we are learning more about the democratic national convention, a campaign like no other. neither candidate going to the convention to accept the nomination and we know the lineup on monday night could change but bernie sanders, republican governor of ohio, former governor john kasich and first lady michelle obama. this is an effort to show the
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diversity of the coalition. we have the obamas, very important. we have bernie sanders, trying to put together the progressives with the more centrist joe biden and a republican governor, a guy in the house balance the budget. what is the message here? >> i think the takeaway from that night will be michelle obama, michelle obama and michelle obama. probably the best speaker that the democratic party has to offer i would say and probably the only speech that anyone remembers out of that opening night. african-american women obviously so crucial to the democratic party's fortunes in the fall so listen. bernie sanders i'm sure will give a great speech. john kasich i'm sure will give a great speech and wanting to get the moderate republicans to vote for joe biden and then with bernie sanders the progressives to be excited about this candidacy of joe biden but michelle obama is the takeaway
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from that evening. >> i think more generally going to be fascinating to see how they try to pull it off and make the production you get out of the convention the quality we will see. appreciate your reporting and insights there. today sadly we have lost a remarkable patriotic and public servant that lieutenant general brent scowcroft. he spent his life in the military or in government service. he served asia national security adviser to two republican presidents, ford and george h.w. bush. picked up the phone for every president to advise them on security issues, from richard nixon through barack obama. he leaves behind daughter karen and granddaughter megan. we'll be right back. up at 2:00am again?
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community that supported me for over 17 years. i loved them to death. you know? and i can adapt. >> the jukebox junction is still open with carryout but this is the sad news, mike's mother carolyn is one of the first deaths of the county from the coronavirus. you see mike looking for the window to visit her there. she died just over a week after being diagnosed. the funeral service is tomorrow. she worked for bank of america for 50 years and enjoyed camping and spending time with grandchildren and great grandchildren. 85 years old. our condolences to mike and his family. thank you for joining us today. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. have a good afternoon and a good weekend.
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i'm brianna keilar and welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. everybody 70 seconds an american is dying from coronavirus. and there are lives behind the numbers. and there's so many more they leave behind, the lives forever changed. keith and gwendolyn robinson, four children, ten grandchildren died 11 days apart from the coronavirus. she passed away while saying good-bye to her family on facetime. you gene and angie hunter only in the 50s and they also died just days apart. they behind a 17-year-old son who lost both of his parents within a week. >> they really lived with no regrets.