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15-year-old hanna waters, a sophomore at north paulding high school in georgia was suspended for violating her school's code of conduct by posting a photo of a school hallway, crowded with students, in the middle of a pandemic. she told me last night, she did it because she was concerned for the safety of everyone. well, today, hanna's suspension has been reversed. and she tells chris cuomo this. >> people shouldn't have to be risking their lives to go to work, to go to school. >> hanna says she'll be back in school on monday. but she could teach all of us a lesson. you're never too young to stand up for what's right. listen to what she says about that. >> do you regret doing any of this? >> i'd like to say that this is some good and necessary trouble. so i don't regret doing this
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because it's -- it needed to be said. >> good and necessary trouble, indeed. thank you for watching. our coverage continues. and good evening. we start tonight with breaking news. president trump right now, speaking from his golf club in new jersey about the coronavirus relief bill. talks that appear to have collapsed in washington. if he takes questions, we will bring that to you live. however, on a day the economy gained about 1.8 million jobs in july but with unemployment rate still above 10%, the president moments ago lashed out at democrat leaders nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. however, he suggested he is still open to a deal. >> my administration continues to work, in good faith, to reach an agreement with democrats in congress, that will extend unemployment benefits, provide protections against evictions, a terrible thing happens with
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evictions. not fair. it wasn't their fault that we were infected with this disease from china. and get relief to american families. >> joined now by jim acosta at the white house. also, maggie haberman. sanjay gupta. jim, can you just lay out the president's -- what he is saying the plan, from his side, is? not actually enacting executive action. he is just saying what he will do if congress doesn't reach an agreement, is that correct? >> that's what it sounds like, so far, anderson, based on the president's remarks he is laying down, essentially another warning to democrats on capitol hill if they don't come to an agreement with white house officials on some kind of a way forward on a coronavirus relief bill, he is going to take executive action. he is talking about extending these enhanced unemployed benefits. an and, as well as, putting in place some kind of moratorium on
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evictions in this country. it's unclear how the president can do any of those things through executive action. which may be one of the reasons he didn't take those actions this evening. but it's worst pointing out the president was continuing to engage in this sort of magical suspension. he was talking about how the virus was disappearing. he was describing testing in this country as tremendous, even though people wait, sometimes a week, or longer, to get test results for the coronavirus. and so on. and so, i think, anderson, you know, we are seeing more of the same from this president. it's another day that ends in, why? >> maggie, i'm wondering what your reaction to the press conference is. because, again, it seemed like starting out, it was going to be the president actually announcing some executive actions. now, it seems like -- it's kind of unclear. him just threatening to. >> he hasn't gotten to questions yet. so, so far, i don't think we have heard anything new from him. he's been threatening to use executive action or presidential authority of some kind that
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would enaprovide measures to pee that are suffering because of coronavirus. but as jim says, it's not clear what power he actually has to do any of this. i do think there are people concerned about, in the president's orbit, about a sense of power. and also, look, i don't know what a -- if -- if you're the president, this skfrconversatio going on in washington. you are condemning leaders, who are still in washington having these conversations. the president has basically been a bystander for most of these discussions. and now, he is delivering a speech or whatever this is from his private club with members looking on. some holding glasses of wine as people are facing threat of eviction and getting laid off. i understand his aides want him to seize on what they see as presidential moments. i'm not sure this is the way to do it. >> and maggie, one of the things he is pushing is the payroll tax cut. which is not something, really, republicans, certainly
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democrats, don't want. and not a lot of advance for republicans on capitol hill. >> anderson, you're right. this is not something republicans have wanted. the president's tried to foist this on republicans for many weeks now. there is not interest in it among the republican caucus. and again, i said the president has been sort of a bystander to most of these negotiations but he is also separate from his own party, in terms of these negotiations. something he wants. a moratorium on evictions. i think will appeal to a lot of people and i understand why he was pushing that but that wasn't part of the republicans' initial offer. >> sanjay, you and i have discussed this many times and as jim already mentioned. the president has been saying this is going to magically disappear, it's going to leave our shores, et cetera, et cetera. he said it tonight, in a kind of way that was somewhat new and just sort of leaned into it and made it seem like it's a done deal. it's disappearing. let's listen. >> you'd need a magic wand to get manufacturing jobs.
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and we're getting them, even in a pandemic, which is disappearing. it's going to disappear. >> is it disappearing? going to disappear? >> i mean, it's clearly not. i mean, the numbers are going up. i mean, this is one of those types of things, anderson, where there's numbers and there's data. and there's objective, sort of, you know, things to look at here. and the numbers are going up. and you know, frankly, the numbers, because we've had inadequate testing, have gone up, far more, than we realize. you know, according to some of these studies, as you know well, anderson. i mean, you know, we talk about 5 million people, potentially, being infected. those are the confirmed infections. it could be five to ten-times higher than that. so, no, it's a contagious virus. and we didn't -- you know, because we didn't contain it, and we're still not containing it, it is t ju it, it just continues to spread. not going away. >> and sanjay, maggie mentioned the numbers of people who were kind of brought into this room
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to watch the president make this -- it looks like folks who were out golfing. this is them. i believe it was -- these are some pictures that were tweeted out. you see some kids there. you see a lot of older adults. there were a couple of people wearing masks. but really, most people were not. and they were all, obviously, milling around and talking with each other. above the new jersey indoor gathering capacity limit, which is supposed to be no more than 25 people gathered. there were more than that there. when these pictures were tweeted out, all of a sudden, people from the campaign handed out masks. so by the time the president got there, masks had been handed out because, clearly -- or actually, we're told it was somebody from the club, not the campaign. excuse me. somebody from the club handed out the masks. clearly, you know, aware these pictures were being tweeted out and so they got people to put on masks. what do you make of an indoor gathering like this? >> you know, i mean, as you point out. first of all, just -- just
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according to the law in new jersey, you're not supposed to have 25% capacity or more than 25 people. and there is a mask ordinance, my understanding is, there as well. so i mean, there is the -- the -- the legal part of it. but, you know, i think to your point, anderson, the -- the -- the idea there is people don't think this is real. they're not physically distancing. they weren't wearing masks, until they had to. they don't think this is real. they put the masks on because they have to. they have to placate people. so it's stunning to me. i mean, i see images like this from social media and other gatherings and stuff like that, all the time. i mean, in -- in -- in clear defiance, often democratimes, o the law is or the ordinance, depending on where they are. but even with so many people who have become infected and so many people who have died, there is a significant percentage of people who, still, i think just don't believe this is real. they're not going to get it. doesn't affect them. somebody else. >> yeah. 160,000. somebody elses. >> jim, the talks have
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collapsed. been no progress. where do negotiations go from here? >> it's a very good question and i am just hearing from a white house official, here in the last couple minutes, anderson, that the president is not expected today sign any kind of executive actions this evening. and so, it is essentially a continuation of the threat of executive action. he did say he was going to take some executive action, later on next week, with respect to healthcare. saying he is going to sign an executive order, mandating that insurance companies cover people with pre-existing conditions. again, it's one of those situations where we're going to have to wait and see if that's, ultimately, what the president really does end up doing. but in terms of where they stand right now, i mean, democrats up on capitol hill. house speaker nancy pelosi, senate minority leader chuck schumer, they came out of those talks essentially saying they're, potentially, a trillion or more dollars apart from white house officials. the white house chief of staff, mark meadows, if there's anything they agree on this week, they agree that they're very far apart.
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so while the white house wants more of what they call a skinny agreement, which is basically extending these enhanced unemployment benefits and that sort of thing. democrats would like to see aid to states and counties, to help pay for getting kids back to school, in a safer way, and so on. and the president has dug his heels in and said, no, he doesn't want to cover that sort of thing. one interesting thing to talk about, anderson, just to pick up on what maggie was talking about concerned about the president taking executive action. you will have to go back, anderson, and look at the 2016 campaign. then-candidate trump went off on then-president barack obama for taking direction on a whole slew of issues, including immigration. so, to some extent, if the president decide to do this, he is going to look like a hypocrite on that issue. anderson. >> maggie, there are -- the number of things that have been hypocritical, obviously, is quite long. but this -- you know, alleged executive actions, he has already done a number of executive actions. and, to jim's point, he and,
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frankly, many republicans on capitol hill. of course, when president obama was doing executive actions, were outraged. >> i guess i don't understand how the president thinks that he is going to help the court cases that have been taking place related to the affordable care act and pre-existing conditions and whether those should be covered. as he is, then, going to sign an executive order saying they should be covered. these executive orders he keeps talking at signing, i will say, with exception of the ones related to tech platforms that came yesterday, those did have a little bet of meat on the bone, it seems. but in general, these are been things, often democratimes he sd they didn't have much in the way of teeth. i think why he is pushing an eviction moratorium. i understand why he's doing it. he is a former landlord. current landlord, frankly. but if he doesn't actually go through with it, if you don't give relief to people and you are holding this out. that is potentially going to rebound. and for some of his more
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conservative supporters, to your question, who don't like federal government overreach and objected to obama using executive authority. i understand the president has often flip flopped on things but his voters might get tired of it so we'll see. >> jim acosta, maggie haberman, sanjay. sanjay, stay there. as we said earlier, during the president's news conference, he said the pandemic is disappearing. we also want to show you again, patrons gathered around before the news conference. this comes from a reporter with reuters. gathered at the golf club. clearly, not social distancing. wearing masks. the same reporter noted white house staff began handing out masks after reporters began tweeting out pictures of the lack of mask wearing. zwro joining us now, dr. judith fineberg. she is fellow of infectious diseases society america. and cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta is back. dr. fineberg, you would like to
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see masks across america, as would many people. particularly, those people who are currently wearing masks, and wish everybody was on board with that. what do you make of what you saw b bedminster before they were handed masks? >> i thought that was extremely discouraging. as an infectious diseases physician, i think universal masking is the most effective tool we have right now, in addition to social distancing, to get any control of this terrible pandemic. as you noted, by next week, we'll have 5 million cases in the united states. we, already, have exceeded 160,000 deaths. that's just an awful lot of people. and the models suggest, by the end of the year, if things don't change, we'll have lost 300,000 lives. that is just a stunning loss. urgent need for a clear and consistent national -- slow the
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spread of the coronavirus. every city and county should be making their own decisions about. >> and dr. fineberg, we actually see, now, the person handing out masks to people. it's extraordinary to me. and sanjay and i had a town hall last night and we talked about this. we talked to chris murray, who does some of the models for this. and he was saying with that 300,000 figure by december, you know, that 75,000, i believe it was, lives could be saved. or 77,000 lives, even, could be saved. if 95% of people in this country wore masks, from now until then. which is extraordinary, when you think about it, that you can actually quantify and you can say to somebody. you know what? if you and your neighbors and the people around you and other people across the country, just stand up and be responsible and be good citizens and do this. however inconvenient and itchy or annoying it might be. you know, you will save 70-plus
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thousand people. it's just stunning to me that not everybody would be on board with that. and it's stunning to me, dr. fineberg, talk about clear messages. the president again, tonight, blithely saying, no, it's going to disappear. it's disappearing, already. >> he's been saying that for a while. but i think that -- i think we saw that national guidance can make a difference. that when the white house issued its 15 days to slow the spread campaign in march. that had an impact. i think the majority of americans want this. i think that, even areas that people thought were quote/unquote safe, like rural areas, are clearly suffering from, you know, the spread of coronavirus. and so, the infectious diseases society of america is calling on this administration to issue a strong, federal directive. we really, really need central
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action for statewide mask requirements. you know, there are 16 states that still have no requirements. you can get in your car, drive ten miles, the other side of the border. and be in the next state and things are completely different. and i think when you are facing a national public health problem, a tragedy like this, you know, we all need to be in this together. it's not something to be piecemeal about. >> sorry. >> it's not -- working together as a society to do something. >> yeah. i mean, sanjay, you and i have talked about this obviously. the messaging is all over the place from the white house. and clearly, the president wants it that way. i mean, he -- he wants -- he's not -- you know, he -- he undercut his own task force's, very clear, guidelines and recommendations. >> yeah. i mean, it's -- it's -- it's been chaotic. i think, you know, i mean, i
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have been talking to people all day today. different health officials in dinn different states. a lot of people are still trying to figure out what they are going to do with schools. they don't have clear guidance, as you and i have talked about with various officials. but there's still, as dr. fineberg was just saying, very different sort of policies. and i would even say different attitudes towards basic public-health measures, like masks. in some places, like where you are, it's like places have to redline and hospitals become overwhelmed and be near panic. that shouldn't be what it takes. these lessons have been painfully learned, so many times. but they're still not being restroom remember remembered and that's ofbbvious a huge problem. >> as you say, sanjay, in new york going out today walking around, just the sheer number of people wearing a mask.
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if they didn't have the mask on, they had it hanging over their ear because they were talking to somebody on a block that wasn't busy at all. and so, again, maybe it is just places where people have actually seen the death toll. they have seen what can happen. but it shouldn't take that. i mean, it -- people wear seatbelts and it's mandated. and you know what? people grumbled about it when it happened and didn't want to do it. and now, it's normalized. >> yeah. it's -- totally. and you know, you paint the picture where you are. and i will tell you, where i am, it's a different sort of picture, anderson. i mean, i wear a mask everywhere that i go. as you might imagine. and, you know, i get funny looks. and people are questioning why you're wearing it. do they think it's a political statement? often. not everybody but there is a lot of that, that happens. and you know, you could see exactly that difference. you know, same country. same time. same pandemic. very different attitudes towards a basic public-health measure like this. so i mean, you know, it's painful to say but it does seem
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like people do need to get to that point. where they have to be confronted with this. you know, slapped across the face with the reality of this before change really happens. >> i want to bring in jeff mason from reuters, who was in the room add bedminster before and after the masks were handed out. jeff, if you can explain what was happening? who was this crowd? how were the people brought there? when were they brought there? and when were the masks handed out? >> sure, anderson. there were several dozen people who came and they were here -- present here at the president's golf club resort. we saw them coming down the stairs from the -- from the top floor. and entering into the room where the press conference was held, before the press was brought in. then, the press was brought in and we were preparing for the press conference. they did not have masks on, initially. and then, after that, and before the president walked in, masks were handed out and they did put
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them on. but there were -- i mean, we figured there were at least 100 people, between those visitors, the press, secret service, and white house staff, in this room. >> right. which is obviously more than -- than -- you're not supposed to have gatherings more than 25 people in new jersey, by law. a reporter asked the president about, you know, the president said it's -- it's disappearing. it's going to disappear. a reporter, i know, asked him about how it's disappearing. what did he say? >> yeah. he was asked about that. and he sort of brushed that off. and he was also asked a terrific question about the issue that we're talking about. which is setting the example with this many people in this room. and that led him to say, no, there are exceptions for political activity, which is true in new jersey. but it's interesting he called this official white house press conference an event. it was not a rally. it was put together by the white house. but it -- it sort of was turning into that. he referenced that.
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he, also, called it a peaceful protest. again, as a justification for the number of people that were allowed to be in this room, without good social distancing. >> jeff mason, i appreciate your reporting. thank you very much. and dr. judith fineberg, want to thank you. also, sanjay's going to stick around. just ahead, our randi kaye on just how reliable coronavirus testing is or isn't. that, when we continue.
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breaking news tonight.
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moments ago, president trump speaking from his golf club in new jersey said the coronavirus is disappearing. citing no evidence. it's not happening. another controversy tonight. this time, over accuracy of some coronavirus testing. on thursday, ohio governor mike dewine was scheduled to visit president trump in cleveland. a positive test prevented the meeting. then, governor dewine said a more sensitive test was negative. randi kaye with some of the confusion caused by testing. >> if that's true, why are so many coronavirus test results wrong? >> the fda, basically, has created a wild-wild-west environment where, under their approval process and emergency basis, they have let tests on the market that basically have a very, very wide range of results. >> you're doing great. >> reporter: part of the trouble with the standard nasal swab test is the virus isn't always lurking in the nasal passage. so a swab test may show the
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person is virus free, even though the virus might be in the lungs or maybe the intestines. >> the quality of these tests right now, vary a great deal. and that's a challenge in terms of understanding if you get a negative result, is it really negative? >> other factors that could affect the accuracy of the test include the stage of the disease. a boston pathologist tells cnn there's a window of about one week to catch the virus. human error in administering the test and how the swab is transported may, also, lead to a false negative. on top of all the inaccuracies, results are often delayed. here, in florida, residents have waited days, sometimes even weeks, to get their results. possibly, allowing the virus to spread. which is why there was so much excitement about the so-called rapid tests, which return results, in just minutes. there are several rapid tests on the market. but the president touted this one in march. >> the fda authorized a new test, developed by ab lbott lab.
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that delivers lightning-fast results, in as little as five minutes. it's a whole new ball game. >> reporter: trouble is, abbott's i.d. now rapid test, which is used at the white house, has proven to be less accurate. back in may, researchers at nyu found abbott's rapid test returned a false negative nearly 50% of the time. so they deemed it unacceptable for their patients. on its website, abbott said, in a statement, that the nyu study is inconsistent with others that show abbott's i.d. now is more reliable. the fda has received 176 reports of adverse events related to abbott's i.d. now test. ten state health agencies told cnn, in july, they specifically recommend or require individuals who test negative on the abbott rapid device, be retested. still, some experts, including scientists, believe despite the inaccuracies rapid tests have shown, it's still better to have more tests. quantity over quality, they say, may be our best hope.
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randy ci randi kaye, cnn, palm beach, florida. >> sanjay's back with us to talk about testing. so the test the white house is using to prevent people from covid coming in contact with of the president is not 100% accurate. do we know how accurate it is? and in your opinion, is that an acceptable level of risk for the president? >> two things. it's interesting because governor dewine had this test yesterday because he's going to meet with the president. and the test that he had is called an antigen test. we looked that up. the specific accuracy on that is around 80%. there's different studies but that's a pretty good number. which means 20% of the time, it gives a false negative. okay. so that means someone actually has the virus but are told that they don't have the virus. that's a false negative. that's obviously a problem, right, anderson? because if that's the test they are using, someone could easily test negative and still have the virus. which -- which makes the case -- i mean, i guess this is obvious but you can't rely on the test, alone. >> it's helpful but it's not
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perfect. so people still got to wear masks. they still got to keep physical distance. ideally, if the test result comes back positive, that's a pretty good indicator that you, in fact, do have the virus. it's a lower false-positive rate. contacts traced. all that sort of stuff. that's how you bring down the overall trajectory of the outbreak. >> but governor dewine had a -- i assume, had a false positive. >> well, we don't -- i mean, his story is a little confusing. because he had an antigen test which, again, they have a pretty high false negative. about 25%. but the false low is actually qui. if you don't find the virus, then, you just -- you didn't find it. it doesn't, necessarily, mean you don't have it. it means you didn't find it. if that makes sense. so his story's a little confusing. >> yeah. are there better testing options available for the white house? >> yeah. i mean, it is a situation, now,
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two things. and i was just doing some reporting on this today. but two things. first of all, you do trade speed and accuracy, a little bit. when you increase speed of these tests, you do decrease accuracy, a bit. and that's part of the issue with these -- the abbott tests that randi kaye was just talking about. but also, these antigen tests. but i think the larger point, anderson, is, you know, we had the same discussion several months ago. and at that point, ambassador birx and others were saying we are going to have some major, big breakthroughs in testing. and they have had more testing types available. but we still don't have the really rapid, accurate, point-of-location testing. it can happen. i mean, you can get really high-accuracy tests that are much quicker and cheaper and all that. we just haven't been creating those. i mean, there are some tests we are keeping a eye on that may be coming out, getting authorization over the next couple of months. but we're six to seven months into this now. >> and we have also seen the number of tests has gone down across the u.s. in recent days.
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is that make sense? >> no. i mean, you know, demand goes up. and the testing goes down. i mean, that's the exact opposite of where it should go. so part of this could be that the storms, we are told, may have had an impact on overall testing. we know that the hurricane, for example, going up the eastern seaboard. the tropical storm. there's been some i.t. issues. there's been some -- some i.t. issues with actually reporting some of the results. there's been a lak bbacklog of . so there's different things that have been contributing to this. but you are a right. overall number of tests have gone to i think just about 700,000 now. down about 10% as compared to last week. >> sanjay, thanks so much. appreciate it. a teacher ip interrupts the minnesota governor at a news conference and tells him she is scared. i will talk with that teacher tonight. what she did that and what the governor told her. next. fish roe. risotto. buffalo. gelato.
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more than 4.9 million that coronavirus cases in the u.s. here in america, a state that was the epicenter that was early on, infection rate has fallen significantly to just 1% of those being tested. that's why today, new york governor andrew cuomo announced all school districts are clear to reopen, with safety measures in place. that includes new york city schools, which are the largest -- is the largest school district in the country. which will offer, both, in-person and remote-learning options starting next month. teachers in new york, however, and other states have voiced concerns. for example, look at a plea made to minnesota's governor on thursday, by middle school teacher in the state.
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>> thank you, executive director. >> i'm scared. that's what the person said. democratic governor tim walz. as he talked to that teacher to hear her concerns, ellen joins us now. did i totally mangle your last name, ellen? >> no, you got it the second time. thanks for having me. >> great. thank you so much. so as schools reopen, there's obviously so much uncertainty. so many real fears. why did you decide to speak out? obviously, you know, a pretty brave thing to do to interrupt a press conference. >> yeah. well, i had actually been taking to my -- took my son to the dentist that was in the same building. and we got off the elevator, and i saw walz turning the corner, touring the building. and so, i thought, oh, my gosh, there's governor walz.
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but his security and everything was there. so i took my son and we walked out. i put him in his carseat. but the whole time, i'm thinking i wish i would have said something. and i even called a teacher friend or texted and said i just saw governor walz. i should have said something. so, i turned around. and i thought, okay, what -- what am i going to say? >> wow, you actually turned around and decided to go back and say something. when you finally were able to talk to him, what did you say to him? what are your concerns? >> yeah. and so, the main thing is i've been in teacher facebook groups. i've been -- for just even districts in our district. and we're all so concerned, we feel like we don't really know, clearly, what's happening. we're not really being -- the communication. we all have so many questions. and asking us to go back. we just want schools to be safe. and when these hybrids and things are rolling out, i told governor walz, i said, you know, it's not necessarily what we thought. and we -- a lot of us don't feel
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safe. and we want to open but we want to do it safely. and i think he expressed, yes, you shouldn't -- you shouldn't feel that way. teachers need to feel safe. i shared with him, personal stories of teachers in our district who are going back, even though they are really high risk. and risking their lives because we still don't know, from our district, whether they'll be able to teach from home or on personal leave or not. >> right. if you're a teacher, who has concerns, you know, for your -- if you -- one has a medical issue. can you, as a teacher, say, you know what? i can't do this. i'd like to teach from home. is that an option for you? >> we're being told, you know, that's why i wanted to talk to governor walz. because we -- we have a whole thread in some of these facebook groups of just questions we have from teachers all over multiple districts. saying i don't understand. like, do i have to choose between an income and putting my
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family at risk or being able to do what i love, which is teach? and the message that i think we originally got was, you'll be able to do distance learning. and many of us, like for me, child care, you know, putting other people at risk watching my own child is -- is scary. and so, we -- i would say we still don't really understand. i know we haven't gotten a clear message from my district. i think some have but ours is the biggest in the state and we've been kind of confused about what it means. we've been asked for medical histories. >> when does school open again? >> in a couple weeks. like, first week of september, i believe. >> it's got to be so scary. >> yeah. and that's where i think when i talked to walz, all that emotion and what you saw was just finally being able to tell someone, who had influence, like, this is what i'm feeling. i want to be back in school but i want to be safe. and, you know, and that i've
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read some nasty things about people saying teachers just don't want to work. and it's -- you know, we want to work. all summer, i've been working on over 160 postcards to send to my former students who are going into ninth grade, to tell them i am thinking about them and care about them. like, teachers, we're up all night in these facebook groups. saying did anyone know anything? do i have to choose between my family? what happens if i get sick? who will -- and -- and we have so many questions that aren't being answered. and i understand it's new territory for everybody. >> but you deserve answers. i mean, it's -- it's ridiculous that you wouldn't be able to get answers. >> yeah. >> it's so lovely that you were sending notes to your former students going into ninth grade to wish them well. ellen, i just -- i wish you the best and would like to continue checking in with you and hope you get answers soon. >> thank you, we appreciate it. >> now, we go to georgia where schools have reopened. a high school student has fought
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back after coming under fire for posting a photo on social media raising concerns. more on that tonight from our gary tuchman. >> a jam-packed high school hallway. as students, many of whom are not wearing masks, change classes. sophomore hanna waters took the photo and posted it on twitter. >> i took it out of, mostly, concern and nervousness after seeing. >> north paulding high school in dallas, georgia, about 45 miles northwest of atlanta, had its first day of school this week. while many schools in the country have or will have mandates for mask wearing, this one does not. >> i was concerned for the safety of everyone in that building. everyone in the county. >> after hanna posted the picture, she was told she had been suspended for violating several parts of the school's code of conduct. only one of which, she acknowledges breaking. violating students' privacy by taking a picture of them and posting it on social media. but she channels the late georgia congressman and civil rights hero, john lewis. >> i'd like to say that this is
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some good and necessary trouble. so i'm -- don't regret posting this because it's -- it needed to be said. >> school officials have not responded to cnn. but in the letter to parents, the superintendent does admit there is no question that the photo does not look good. but he, also, says he believes the photo is being shown out of context, to criticize the school's reopening efforts. and he defendants the lack of a mask mandate by making this debatable statement. wearing a mask is a personal choice. and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them. and the school's principal made another statement. according to hanna and her mother. a personal one. calling hanna's mother and telling her the suspension has now been overturned. and that a suspension will not appear on her daughter's record. >> behind every teacher, student, and staff member, there's a family. there's friends. and i would just want to keep everyone safe. >> hanna waters will be back at school monday. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta.
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as the number of coronavirus
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cases in the u.s. approaches 5 million, we continue to focus on survivors. tonight, we have the story of a very brave and strong, young man. his name is jordan hutchins. he is from new york. came down with multisystem inflammatory syndrome. a rare illness associated with covid-19 it's found in kids. jordan faced a ton of complications. including heart surgery. he fought to live and it's great. he joins me along with his mom beverly. it's so great to see you both looking healthy and happy. what your family's been through is just staggering. my understanding, you come home. jordan had a fever. you gave him tylenol. you had a zoom call with the pediatrician. you know, they said just watch his fever. give him the tylenol. you watched him over the weekend, on and off, fever continued. monday, jordan says i'm having trouble breathing. you say we're going to the hospital. by tuesday, he's on a
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ventilator. you -- i mean, that's so -- you must have been beside yourself. >> i was scared. i was -- i was scared. i was -- you know, i -- i didn't know what to think. i didn't know what was happening. >> because i mean, at that point, everyone was saying, look, kids aren't affected. >> at that point, even i believed that. because the entire family, my husband, my older son, we were all sick back in april. and he didn't have any symptoms, any problems, anything. and then, weeks later, this just started. and i thought it would just run its course, just like ours did. and -- but, no. you know, i rushed him to the children's hospital in new york and that's when the nightmare began. >> i mean, jordan, everybody who knows you is so proud of you. the family, the doctors. i mean, how are you doing? do you remember your time in the hospital?
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>> yes. >> what was the best thing about getting out of the hospital? >> well, i could see my whole family again, especially my cat. >> oh, yeah? your cat especially? what's your >> we're seeing video when you left the hospital. it's nice. lot of people applauding for you. was there something you wanted to eat or do what you got out? >> there was a parade of firefighters and police officers and came too. >> that's cool. >> pizza. yes. there are so many unknowns about covid-19 and multisymptom inflammatory syndrome in kids and i believe you're a hoeealth care worker as well. >> that's right. >> he gets put on a ventilator,
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then how long did it go on? the 18th of may is when we went to the hospital. then put him on the ventilator. his breathing wasn't getting better, and even with the ventilator things were just not happening. and so the doctors, they came to me and they told me that they wanted to put him on an ekmo machine to let the machine pump his lungs and heart for him so he could rest. they did that. basically everything happened so quickly. the ventilator. the ekmo machine, the kidney failure, heart surgery, he was on dialysis. his pancreas was inflamed. everything happened so fast, but
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it actually turned around that quickly. >> wow! >> he was on the ventilator from tuesday -- exactly one week, seven days from the time we went to the hospital. the ekmo, i forgot he had heart surgery and two strokes. >> oh, my gosh. >> so all of this happened within seven days all of this transpired. >> were you able to be with him? >> yes. i am forever grateful to the hospital that my husband and i -- we were able to -- monday through friday i was there, and he was able to come on the weekends. we were forever grateful. the most heart wrenching thing is to not be there with your child or your loved one. but not at this hospital. the parents are able to be there with their kids. >> when you hear politicians saying, kids are immune.
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it's got to -- how does that make you feel? >> like i said in the beginning, i thought, yeah, i thought that maybe kids are immune, until my child took ill and -- i don't know maybe the numbers are not that high, i don't know why they keep saying that, i know for my son that was not the case. so -- >> what a blessing that you're home together. thank you so much, and jordan, it's great to see you. i wish you the best. and i hope you get some pizza tonight. you probably already had something. >> thank you. >> thanks very much, see you later. >> thank you. >> so adorable. up next, top u.s. intelligence official revalued show china and russia are both interfering in the presidential election. who they want to win when we
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breaking news, the top u.s. intelligence officials are warning china, russia and iran are all trying to interfere with the upcoming presidential election. what do we know about this intelligence assessment? >> this was a very unusual statement from the top elections security official in the director of national intelligence office. what he was warning about today is the activity of china, russia
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and iran. they've all apparently chosen their favorite candidates in the 2020 election. i'll read you just a little bit of what i says, in regards to russia he says, we assess that russia is using a range of measures to denigrate former vice president biden and what it sees as an anti-russia establishment. this is along the lines of what we saw from the russians in 2016 when they were trying to hurt the campaign of hillary clinton and trying to boost the campaign of president trump. with regard to china. china prefers if president trump who beijing sees as unpredictable does not win re-election. apparently, according to the intelligence community, the information they have, is that the chinese are doing a variety of things, including working behind the scenes on social media, trying to take on anyone who is criticizing china. with regard to iran, it appears what they're trying to do is
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more sow division among americans. and in some ways also trying to hurt president trump's campaign. according to the intelligence community. >> president trump responded to the russian part of the assessment tonight. let's take a look. >> i think the last person russia wants to see in office is donald trump because no one has been tougher on russia than i have, ever. >> well, that's not -- >> i don't care what anybody says. >> evan? >> that is obviously not exactly true. one of the frustrations for people inside the administration has been that the president has pulled his punches whenever he talks to russian president vladimir putin. he's not brought up anything about russian interference in the election in quite some time. it's quite the opposite of what the president portrays. >> or even the alleged bounties offered to the taliban. >> exactly. >> startling.